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the first steel frame building in history to collapse due to fire and it the case of the wtc 1 AND 2 the plane strikes are theorized to have dislodged fire proofing...but this is simply a theory with no actual proof that occurred and no evidence of the temperatures required for structural failure in their theorized collapse scenario

the proof that the temperatures required were present is the fact that the buildings came down.

weak...it is not any kind of new cutting edge science required to determine the maximum temperature reached in a fire yet testing of samples from the wtc show no such temperatures..the fact the buildings came down is only proof that the structure failed
 
weak...it is not any kind of new cutting edge science required to determine the maximum temperature reached in a fire yet testing of samples from the wtc show no such temperatures..the fact the buildings came down is only proof that the structure failed

the building was on fire. it came down. if you have any evidence that something else other than fire was present then please present that evidence. otherwise its fairly obvious what the cause is.
 
REALLY?????

i know, you mean no plane hit WTC7, but WTC1 DID
you just keep showing how fucking STUPID you are

No you are showing how delusional you are in your denial that according to NIST it matters not that a small portion of debris from wtc 1 fell on wtc 7 that if the fires had been ignited from any other cause the result would have been the same

can you point out where NIST said your last sentence?

THE INVESTIGATION OF THE WORLD TRADE
CENTER COLLAPSE: FINDINGS,
RECOMMENDATIONS, AND NEXT STEPS

HEARING BEFORE THE COMMITTEE ON SCIENCE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

ONE HUNDRED NINTH CONGRESS

FIRST SESSION



core columns, uninsulated due to the fact that the aircraft stripped off that insulation; they softened in the heat of the fire and shortened and that led to the collapse. They pulled in the external columns and it caused it to buckle.,there would be no collapse if the insulation remained in place.


The Investigation of the World Trade Center Collapse: Findings, Recommendations, and Next Steps
 
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No you are showing how delusional you are in your denial that according to NIST it matters not that a small portion of debris from wtc 1 fell on wtc 7 that if the fires had been ignited from any other cause the result would have been the same

can you point out where NIST said your last sentence?

THE INVESTIGATION OF THE WORLD TRADE
CENTER COLLAPSE: FINDINGS,
RECOMMENDATIONS, AND NEXT STEPS

HEARING BEFORE THE COMMITTEE ON SCIENCE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

ONE HUNDRED NINTH CONGRESS

FIRST SESSION



core columns, uninsulated due to the fact that the aircraft stripped off that insulation; they softened in the heat of the fire and shortened and that led to the collapse. They pulled in the external columns and it caused it to buckle.,there would be no collapse if the insulation remained in place.


The Investigation of the World Trade Center Collapse: Findings, Recommendations, and Next Steps
you need reading comprehension classes

that had NOTHING to do with WTC7, remember, no plane hit WTC7
:cuckoo::cuckoo::cuckoo::cuckoo:
 

left to burn without any firefighting efforts at all, not even sprinklers?

if not then its irrelevant.

you cant possible be genuine and make that statement it is pure spin...
it is a safe bet that with the level of devastation and fires extremely more intense than fires at wtc 7 {which did have sprinklers working on many of the floors by the way) that sprinkler systems failed or became irrelevant at some point and fire fighting efforts were indeed abandoned..the thing most irrelevant here is your ridiculous flailing attempts at disinformation
 
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left to burn without any firefighting efforts at all, not even sprinklers?

if not then its irrelevant.

you cant possible be genuine and make that statement it is pure spin...
it is a safe bet that with the level of devastation and fires extremely more intense than fires at wtc 7 {which did have sprinklers working on many of the floors by the way) that sprinkler systems failed or became irrelevant at some point and fire fighting efforts were indeed abandoned..the thing most irrelevant here is your ridiculous flailing attempts at disinformation
no, WTC7 didnt have ANY sprinklers working'
none
the water main was severed
thats why they abandoned the building
because they didnt have the water to fight the fires with
 
can you point out where NIST said your last sentence?

THE INVESTIGATION OF THE WORLD TRADE
CENTER COLLAPSE: FINDINGS,
RECOMMENDATIONS, AND NEXT STEPS

HEARING BEFORE THE COMMITTEE ON SCIENCE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

ONE HUNDRED NINTH CONGRESS

FIRST SESSION



core columns, uninsulated due to the fact that the aircraft stripped off that insulation; they softened in the heat of the fire and shortened and that led to the collapse. They pulled in the external columns and it caused it to buckle.,there would be no collapse if the insulation remained in place.


The Investigation of the World Trade Center Collapse: Findings, Recommendations, and Next Steps
you need reading comprehension classes

that had NOTHING to do with WTC7, remember, no plane hit WTC7
:cuckoo::cuckoo::cuckoo::cuckoo:

It is in response to Es question about the towers and insulation my little retarded friend...try and keep up...focus
 
yes that's right isn't it ..the towers had working sprinklers however ,,he rest of the statement stands the fires presented were fully engulfed buildings not random fires over 6 floors..like at wtc 7 the first steel framed building to collapse due to fire according to NIST
 
THE INVESTIGATION OF THE WORLD TRADE
CENTER COLLAPSE: FINDINGS,
RECOMMENDATIONS, AND NEXT STEPS

HEARING BEFORE THE COMMITTEE ON SCIENCE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

ONE HUNDRED NINTH CONGRESS

FIRST SESSION



core columns, uninsulated due to the fact that the aircraft stripped off that insulation; they softened in the heat of the fire and shortened and that led to the collapse. They pulled in the external columns and it caused it to buckle.,there would be no collapse if the insulation remained in place.


The Investigation of the World Trade Center Collapse: Findings, Recommendations, and Next Steps
you need reading comprehension classes

that had NOTHING to do with WTC7, remember, no plane hit WTC7
:cuckoo::cuckoo::cuckoo::cuckoo:

It is in response to Es question about the towers and insulation my little retarded friend...try and keep up...focus
wrong again, my troofer fucking moron
 
Were the sprinkling systems damaged by the planes' impacts?
YES
and the collapse of the towers severed a MAIN LINE so there was NO WATER to fight the fires in WTC7
Id-Eots is just too fucking stupid

no hardly... no firefighting is irrelevant to the examples of other steel frame buildings presented that did not collapse and in infernos like the ones shown its safe to assume sprinklers are not going..the facts remain NIST does not say..it is the only steel framed building to collapse due to fire and sprinkler failure..it says the first building in history to collapse due to fire
 
Were the sprinkling systems damaged by the planes' impacts?
YES
and the collapse of the towers severed a MAIN LINE so there was NO WATER to fight the fires in WTC7
Id-Eots is just too fucking stupid

no hardly... no firefighting is irrelevant to the examples of other steel frame buildings presented that did not collapse and in infernos like the ones shown its safe to assume sprinklers are not going..the facts remain NIST does not say..it is the only steel framed building to collapse due to fire and sprinkler failure..it says the first building in history to collapse due to fire
^^^^^
see!!!!!

a PRIME example of MINUTIA being picked out and used by a fucking moronic troofer
 
well it looks like the Mandarin Oriental Hotel architects learned a lot from the collapse of WTC7 when designing it. its great it didnt collapse.... or did you want it to?
 

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