What if we say no you won't and your little cash grab fails? Here in Northern Nevada we are telling you leeches to go pound sand.
Correct, it's called "stupid math"!
Banning Students?
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The Duke
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Admiral Rockwell Tory
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We didn't teach that either.
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" Paying Attention To Obvious Implications Of Diction "
* Negative Liberties Of Protection Versus Positive Liberties Of Endowment *
Negative liberties represent protections , independence and individualism .
Positive liberties represent endowments , codependence and collectivism .
* Negative Liberties Of Protection Versus Positive Liberties Of Endowment *
There is a huge public ignorance that assumes equal protection is synonymous with equal endowment , and it stems from foolishness of yelling about equal rites , without a basic understanding for civics and political science .Research the details of the case and you will find your answer.
Plyler v. Doe, 457 U.S. 202 (1982)
Argued:December 1, 1981
Decided:June 15, 1982
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Primary Holding
A state cannot prevent children of undocumented immigrants from attending public school unless a substantial state interest is involved.
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Plyler v. Doe, 457 U.S. 202 (1982)
Plyler v. Doe
No. 80-1538
Argued December 1, 1981
Decided June 15, 1982*
457 U.S. 202
Syllabus
Held: A Texas statute which withholds from local school districts any state funds for the education of children who were not "legally admitted" into the United States, and which authorizes local school districts to deny enrollment to such children, violates the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment.
Pp. 457 U. S. 210-230.
(a) The illegal aliens who are plaintiffs in these cases challenging the statute may claim the benefit of the Equal Protection Clause, which provides that no State shall "deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws." Whatever his status under the immigration laws, an alien is a "person" in any ordinary sense of that term. This Court's prior cases recognizing that illegal aliens are "persons" protected by the Due Process Clauses of the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments, which Clauses do not include the phrase "within its jurisdiction," cannot be distinguished on the asserted ground that persons who have entered the country illegally are not "within the jurisdiction" of a State even if they are present within its boundaries and subject to its laws. Nor do the logic and history of the Fourteenth Amendment support such a construction. Instead, use of the phrase "within its jurisdiction" confirms the understanding that the Fourteenth Amendment's protection extends to anyone, citizen or stranger, who is subject to the laws of a State, and reaches into every corner of a State's territory. Pp. 457 U. S. 210-216.
(b) The discrimination contained in the Texas statute cannot be considered rational unless it furthers some substantial goal of the State. Although undocumented resident aliens cannot be treated as a "suspect class," and although education is not a "fundamental right," so as to require the State to justify the statutory classification by showing that it serves a compelling governmental interest, nevertheless the Texas statute imposes a lifetime hardship on a discrete class of children not accountable for their disabling status. These children can neither affect their parents' conduct nor their own undocumented status. The deprivation
Page 457 U. S. 203
of public education is not like the deprivation of some other governmental benefit. Public education has a pivotal role in maintaining the fabric of our society and in sustaining our political and cultural heritage; the deprivation of education takes an inestimable toll on the social, economic, intellectual, and psychological wellbeing of the individual, and poses an obstacle to individual achievement. In determining the rationality of the Texas statute, its costs to the Nation and to the innocent children may properly be considered. Pp. 457 U. S. 216-224.
(c) The undocumented status of these children vel non does not establish a sufficient rational basis for denying them benefits that the State affords other residents. It is true that, when faced with an equal protection challenge respecting a State's differential treatment of aliens, the courts must be attentive to congressional policy concerning aliens. But in the area of special constitutional sensitivity presented by these cases, and in the absence of any contrary indication fairly discernible in the legislative record, no national policy is perceived that might justify the State in denying these children an elementary education. Pp. 457 U. S. 224-226.
(d) Texas' statutory classification cannot be sustained as furthering its interest in the "preservation of the state's limited resources for the education of its lawful residents." While the State might have an interest in mitigating potentially harsh economic effects from an influx of illegal immigrants, the Texas statute does not offer an effective method of dealing with the problem. Even assuming that the net impact of illegal aliens on the economy is negative, charging tuition to undocumented children constitutes an ineffectual attempt to stem the tide of illegal immigration, at least when compared with the alternative of prohibiting employment of illegal aliens. Nor is there any merit to the suggestion that undocumented children are appropriately singled out for exclusion because of the special burdens they impose on the State's ability to provide high-quality public education. The record does not show that exclusion of undocumented children is likely to improve the overall quality of education in the State. Neither is there any merit to the claim that undocumented children are appropriately singled out because their unlawful presence within the United States renders them less likely than other children to remain within the State's boundaries and to put their education to productive social or political use within the State. Pp. 457 U. S. 227-230.
No. 80-1638, 628 F.2d 448, and No. 80-1934, affirmed.
BRENNAN, J., delivered the opinion of the Court, in which MARSHALL, BLACKMUN, POWELL, and STEVENS, JJ., joined. MARSHALL, J.,post, p. 457 U. S. 230, BLACKMUN, J., post, p. 457 U. S. 231, and POWELL, J., post, p. 457 U. S. 236, filed concurring opinions. BURGER, C.J., filed a dissenting opinion, in which WHITE, REHNQUIST, and O'CONNOR, JJ., joined,post, p. 457 U. S. 242.
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Plyler v. Doe, 457 U.S. 202 (1982)Plyler v. DoeNo. 80-1538Argued December 1, 1981Decided June 15, 1982457 U.S. 202ast|>*457 U.S. 202APPEAL FROM THE UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS FORTHE FIFTH CIRCUITSyllabusHeld: A Texas statute which withholds from local school districts any state funds for the education of children who were not "legally admitted" into the United States, and which authorizes local school districts to deny enrollment to such children, violates the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment.
Negative liberties represent protections , independence and individualism .
Positive liberties represent endowments , codependence and collectivism .
Woodznutz
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You are as out of touch as Unkotare.
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Kids Are Learning Math Differently These Days—Here's How to Help Your Child Succeed
Elementary math isn't the same as when we were kids. Here's how to help your child succeed with their math homework and math lessons in school.
And you are on ignore. I've had enough of your insults.
Woodznutz
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The sheer volume of information available on these subjects can make one an expert in no time. You can only kick against the goads for so long before you get really sore feet.
You teachers are just another source of information, expensive ones at that. In HS history class I found the historical narratives very interesting, but my teacher seemed to be more interested in "dates". I never did remember those dates, but I had pretty good recall of the actual historical events. And as I said earlier most such courses were so simple that I often thought that I was missing something.
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Woodznutz
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Are you saying that teachers have failed to teach their students how to learn outside of the classroom? I learned how to read in school. Are you saying that I don't understand what I read (or that everything I read is false)? If so, what good is published information?
My dentist wanted to pull my wisdom teeth "before they give you trouble". I was 45 at the time and never had any trouble with my wisdom teeth. I am 85 and still don't have any trouble with my wisdom teeth. We often laughed about that. He quipped to an assistant once, "I wanted to pull his wisdom teeth, but he wouldn't let me." His professional experience was no match for mine.
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Woodznutz
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Reread that post. I edited it.
Admiral Rockwell Tory
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Get your teaching certification and then maybe I'll listen to what you spew! Putting me on ignore doesn't stop me from showing what a microscopic intellect you show!You are as out of touch as Unkotare.
Kids Are Learning Math Differently These Days—Here's How to Help Your Child Succeed
Elementary math isn't the same as when we were kids. Here's how to help your child succeed with their math homework and math lessons in school.www.parents.com
And you are on ignore. I've had enough of your insults.
We are teachers, you are not. We are infinitely more qualified than your high school GED.
Admiral Rockwell Tory
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That means you never had any wisdom. Your age is obviously contributing to your cranky attitude. At 85, you should be sitting on a beach like Biden, enjoying your dementia, meeting new and interesting people every day, like your family members.Are you saying that teachers have failed to teach their students how to learn outside of the classroom? I learned how to read in school. Are you saying that I don't understand what I read (or that everything I read is false)? If so, what good is published information?
My dentist wanted to pull my wisdom teeth "before they give you trouble". I was 45 at the time and never had any trouble with my wisdom teeth. I am 85 and still don't have any trouble with my wisdom teeth. We often laughed about that. He quipped to an assistant once, "I wanted to pull his wisdom teeth, but he wouldn't let me." His professional experience was no match for mine.
But not more qualified than me. Have you ever taught graduate level science classes?
Get back to me when you have.
Admiral Rockwell Tory
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Was I talking to you?
Yeah, you talk the same way to me too
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" Paying Attention To Obvious Implications Of Diction "
* Negative Liberties Of Protection Versus Positive Liberties Of Endowment *
There is a huge public ignorance that assumes equal protection is synonymous with equal endowment , and it stems from foolishness of yelling about equal rites , without a basic understanding for civics and political science .
Negative liberties represent protections , independence and individualism .
Positive liberties represent endowments , codependence and collectivism .
Is this like a circle jerk?
Admiral Rockwell Tory
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Well, you should do better!
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