Backward a hundred years.

BACKWARD A HUNDRED YEARS.

If a Palin or Brown supported by the tea party extremist get in office in 2012 they will take this country back a hundred years. They will take away social security, Medicare and Medicaid, welfare, SCHIP and civil rights of minorities. Then you will see a real revolution like this country have never seen before.
Right wing nuts and village idiots, Rush and FOXNEWS hate Obama more than they love this country, their granny or their children. Hate kind of like terrorist who hate us more then they love life.

Nothing wrong with getting rid of Social Security.

It's the biggest government scam ever.

Don't have to do nothing It is going broke like the rest of the liberal give away programs. the country will be luck to survive another ten years!!!
 
You are thinking that markets are Magical. I am facing the facts that HISTORY has proven over and over again. When you involve people there is a certain segment of society the will use deception for personal gain. It does not matter if they wear 1000 dollar suits and live in multi million dollar homes. They are not immune from this fact of mankind. The really smart sociopaths will rise to the top with no rules because the decent people will follow a moral code that will never get in the way of the sociopaths. What you want to set up is a perfect structure for the sociaopaths to get to the top of everything in record time.

Its you that is the fool and anyone else who buys the silly unfettered markets create magic.

Get over yourself and your childish need to believe you are one of the FEW who KNOW the secrets that everyone else is just too stupid to understand.

Face the reality of the condition of mankinds pshycological makeup.

The markets are simply the natural law of economics.Then why make murder or rape illegal , under your theory the natural law of human interaction will just balence itself out. The reason we do have laws for people (markets are just people interacting fool) is that it is murdered people cant get any recourse under your magic market ideas. You dont make people honest by changing the law and outlawing all activity. You do end up with less crime when there are laws and they are properly inforced. No one claimed it would make people honest. And you dont prosper by ignoring the natural law. You may complete hate it, but the free market works because it's nature. It encourages people to be knowledgible and to provide services and goods that people desire and need. You also dont prosper in a system that has no laws. Go study history and see the results of lawless societies.

You cant fight against nature without suffering consequences. And absent, Divine Intervention (which is there, but which sadly few accept), there is no way to change human nature.Again laws are not there in any place to change human nature. Laws are there to provide recourse for the wronged and to give consequinces to unacceptable behavior which harms a society.

It's not the system that needs fixing. It's the people. Changing the law cannot change the people. The world changes the environment IE law, with the hopes to change men. Christ changes men, who then change their environment. You will fail in your efforts, because you are trying to do it the wrong way. Laws have been used in EVERY society of man. Why do you all of the sudden think the market (which is merely humans interacting like any other human endevor) is different or say......magical?

Instead of fixing the problem. You end up making things worse by empowering even more corrupt people to "reign in" those so called evil corporations. And those people merely see these corporations as an opportunity to take money from people with the support of useful idiots so they can pay their "friends" and fund their special projects that fail to help society. It's wrong.Judges, police and our court system is not corrupt is it?

But I suspect you wont stop supporting evil people.

So you are claiming anyone in our judicial system is evil along with our police and anyone who seeks office, YET people who are in the corporations are somehow better people?

I wish you people would realize just how silly your thinking is.

You first numbnuts.
 
BACKWARD A HUNDRED YEARS.

If a Palin or Brown supported by the tea party extremist get in office in 2012 they will take this country back a hundred years. They will take away social security, Medicare and Medicaid, welfare, SCHIP and civil rights of minorities. Then you will see a real revolution like this country have never seen before.
Right wing nuts and village idiots, Rush and FOXNEWS hate Obama more than they love this country, their granny or their children. Hate kind of like terrorist who hate us more then they love life.

Nothing wrong with getting rid of Social Security.

It's the biggest government scam ever.

Don't have to do nothing It is going broke like the rest of the liberal give away programs. the country will be luck to survive another ten years!!!



Tell you guys what.....lets put it to a vote of the American people and see what happens.

You guys would get burried.
 
Those programs are already bankrupt so you should be pretty upset about this right now. Why wait for the Republicans to win? These things are happening right now. As far as your "Civil Rights" rant goes,it just seems like more pathetic Leftist Race-Baiting to me. Not much credibility in that rant in my opinion. "Hating" Obama? Not any more than you Leftist nutters hated BOOOOOOOOOOSSH. The whole premise of this post just seems very disingenuous and hypocritical to me. Oh how the tables have turned. Pretty funny stuff.
 
Those programs are already bankrupt so you should be pretty upset about this right now. Why wait for the Republicans to win? These things are happening right now. As far as your "Civil Rights" rant goes,it just seems like more pathetic Leftist Race-Baiting to me. Not much credibility in that rant in my opinion. "Hating" Obama? Not any more than you Leftist nutters hated BOOOOOOOOOOSSH. The whole premise of this post just seems very disingenuous and hypocritical to me. Oh how the tables have turned. Pretty funny stuff.

Do you post same stupid shit into every thread?
 
Social Security would be fine if the robber barons aka congress would stop robbing the till.
But I thought you would think SS was a socialist plot?

Not a socialist plot but a Ponzi scheme that makes Bernie Madoff look like a piker

I actually do consider it socialist because its a government program designed to take care of you in your elderly years which is grave end of the cradle to grave scale.
 
Those programs are already bankrupt so you should be pretty upset about this right now. Why wait for the Republicans to win? These things are happening right now. As far as your "Civil Rights" rant goes,it just seems like more pathetic Leftist Race-Baiting to me. Not much credibility in that rant in my opinion. "Hating" Obama? Not any more than you Leftist nutters hated BOOOOOOOOOOSSH. The whole premise of this post just seems very disingenuous and hypocritical to me. Oh how the tables have turned. Pretty funny stuff.

Do you post same stupid shit into every thread?

Why yes. Yes he does.
 
Those programs are already bankrupt so you should be pretty upset about this right now. Why wait for the Republicans to win? These things are happening right now. As far as your "Civil Rights" rant goes,it just seems like more pathetic Leftist Race-Baiting to me. Not much credibility in that rant in my opinion. "Hating" Obama? Not any more than you Leftist nutters hated BOOOOOOOOOOSSH. The whole premise of this post just seems very disingenuous and hypocritical to me. Oh how the tables have turned. Pretty funny stuff.

Do you post same stupid shit into every thread?

Why yes. Yes he does.

Ah, I see. Still new here.
 
I addressed the op's false premise one by one. Sorry you can't handle the truth. No one hated more than you Leftist nutters did the previous eight years. So spare us the dishonesty & hypocrisy. We know you better than you know yourselves.
 
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You disagree with the source of revenue, however it is irrelevant to your notion of government not promoting technological advancement, because it is clearly false. Can you point out something as big as landing man on the moon, the private sector has accomplished?


Wait, contractors? You want to go there? Government paid contractors developed the technologies at you grand parents unwilling dime, yet the credit doesn't belong to government? Didn't those contractors worked for government at the time?

Wait, a second, are you just trying to spin shit around to get out of the ignorant shit you said before?
LOL, unlike you , I know what I'm talking about so I have no need to "spin" anything, after all I'm not a big gub'ment worshiper so logic and reason are still attributes I possess in abundance, you on the other hand are stuck with hyperbole and slogans which are rather crude tools for discourse.

Also another note, Soviet Union sent first human into the space.
Something tells me that you do not understand what the term "mis-allocation of capital" means nor how it ties into the fact that centrally planned economies always inevitably fail. Since apparently you missed that fact that while yes the Soviet Union was able to put a human into space their economy ultimately collapsed because no group of bureaucrats, no matter how intelligent or "wise" they might be, can correctly interpret all of the variables in play in a modern economy and make decisions as to what and where capital should be allocated at anywhere near the efficiency that the decentralized, marketplace handles the job.

Our latest financial meltdown is perfect example of how central planning sends the wrong signals to the market resulting in capital mis-allocation and mal-investment, do you need a stronger real world lesson in this concept ? Oh wait I bet you bought all the politician BS about how this crisis was the all the fault of "Wall Street Greed", right ? :lol:

Something tells me you're full of shit old man.
It's likely that nonsense the progressives have been beaming into your brain courtesy of Washington Politicians and the MSM, try using your whatever critical thinking faculties that remain at your disposal instead, trust me they will avail you much better than the partisan cognitive dissonance you've been relying thus far.
 
I addressed the op's false premise one by one. Sorry you can't handle the truth. No one hated more than you Leftist nutters the previous eight years. So spare us the dishonesty & hypocrisy. We know you better than you know yourselves.

Big Ben. Always delivers.
 
I addressed the op's false premise one by one. Sorry you can't handle the truth. No one hated more than you Leftist nutters the previous eight years. So spare us the dishonesty & hypocrisy. We know you better than you know yourselves.

What you fail to understand is Bush is hatedd because he LIED the US into a war.

He told the people that Sadam was part of the war on terror.

There was a reason 70% of americans thought Sadam did 911.

Bush Lied and American soldiers died for those lies.

That is a great reason to hate a president.

You hate Obama because hes a Democrat.
 
The difference is that we criticize this President and his failed policies while you Leftist nutters focused instead on insulting Bush and his family on a personal level. Do you really think we all forgot your despicable "Drunken Whore" insults on his daughters? Or calling the man Hitler? You did the same in smearing Palin and her children. Yes we do criticize but we choose to do it honorably. I do not support this President's policies but i will not resort to calling his daughters "Whores." Your feigned outrage actually outrages all rational and common sense thinking people. So save your dishonest chit for someone who cares.
 
You disagree with the source of revenue, however it is irrelevant to your notion of government not promoting technological advancement, because it is clearly false. Can you point out something as big as landing man on the moon, the private sector has accomplished?


Wait, contractors? You want to go there? Government paid contractors developed the technologies at you grand parents unwilling dime, yet the credit doesn't belong to government? Didn't those contractors worked for government at the time?

Wait, a second, are you just trying to spin shit around to get out of the ignorant shit you said before?
LOL, unlike you , I know what I'm talking about so I have no need to "spin" anything, after all I'm not a big gub'ment worshiper so logic and reason are still attributes I possess in abundance, you on the other hand are stuck with hyperbole and slogans which are rather crude tools for discourse.

Nothing you said was of substance. Since you know what you're talking about dare to adress the points I made? Over contractors working for government I mean, the government paid for their abilities should the government ultimately the credit for their gathered achievement? And if not why not? It is public money after all.

Also another note, Soviet Union sent first human into the space.
Something tells me that you do not understand what the term "mis-allocation of capital" means nor how it ties into the fact that centrally planned economies always inevitably fail. Since apparently you missed that fact that while yes the Soviet Union was able to put a human into space their economy ultimately collapsed because no group of bureaucrats, no matter how intelligent or "wise" they might be, can correctly interpret all of the variables in play in a modern economy and make decisions as to what and where capital should be allocated at anywhere near the efficiency that the decentralized, marketplace handles the job.

Um, I agree that government cannot allocate the money efficiently at all times. However, we were discussing technology, so how does Soviet Sending first human into space fits into your suggestion that government never does anything for technology?

Our latest financial meltdown is perfect example of how central planning sends the wrong signals to the market resulting in capital mis-allocation and mal-investment, do you need a stronger real world lesson in this concept ? Oh wait I bet you bought all the politician BS about how this crisis was the all the fault of "Wall Street Greed", right ? :lol:
Wait, the latest crisis was a free market fail. The banks could do w/e the fuck they wanted with low risk and high profits. If you want to blame government for not preventing this bullshit, I am 100% on the board.
Something tells me you're full of shit old man.
It's likely that nonsense the progressives have been beaming into your brain courtesy of Washington Politicians and the MSM, try using your whatever critical thinking faculties that remain at your disposal instead, trust me they will avail you much better than the partisan cognitive dissonance you've been relying thus far.

Sorry, wingnut talking points are hard for me to read.

Edit: Fucked up with 'quote" still readable.
 
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