AZ Gov Jan Brewer says her Father died fighting Nazis. Problem? He Didn't

[bodecea]

Obama has lied so many times it doesn't even bear commenting on any more.
The scary thing is, he believes most of what he says about himself. He creates his own world.

That guy
is going to end up chained up in the basement and spoon fed by his wife, mark my words.

How convenient that is.

 

[G.T.]

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Feel free to ignore this statement. Just tossing it out there. ; )

Well not everyone wants a cartoon avatar. Some people have actually outgrown cartoons.

What are you, 5 years old? Grow up, dude.

 

[California Girl]

Brewer distastefully embellished. I don't think there's an argument to be made otherwise, and that's totally within context a distasteful embellishment. She made her Dad sound like a War vet by the way she chose her words.

Yea, I found it distasteful when Obama claimed that the Civil Rights Marches were responsible for his birth.

"Politicians play with words to their own advantage" - News at 10. ******* hell, this is pathetic.

 

[paperview]

PayPerView.... you are an idiot.

Just of the sake of debate: if she is a liar, is Obama also a liar with his 'Selma got me born' statement?

You find that exact quote from Obamam, Cali-crumbs. You won't find it, even though you just used that quote.


Context is too difficult for some folks, 'specially Cali-crumbs. snopes.com: Say What, Barack?

Do you duck so the point goes over your head? Genuine question.

Even ******* snopes excuses his claims by saying it's the context of the words, not the words. My point - this is the exact same thing as you are doing with Brewer.

In his speech.... and I have a copy of the whole speech - as delivered and as originally written - he clearly connects his birth with the Selma marches etc. BUT - any intelligent person knows the dates don't work.

So, if you can argue about what Obama meant and what he actually said.... then, surely to God, you can see the same shit with Brewer's remarks? If yes, you have a brain. If no, you are a partisan hack. Simple.

...Said the hack.

Did Obama use some poetic license here?

"What happened in Selma, Alabama and Birmingham also stirred the conscience of the nation. It worried folks in the White House who said, "You know, we're battling Communism. How are we going to win hearts and minds all across the world? If right here in our own country, John, we're not observing the ideals set fort in our Constitution, we might be accused of being hypocrites." So the Kennedy's decided we're going to do an air lift. We're going to go to Africa and start bringing young Africans over to this country and give them scholarships to study so they can learn what a wonderful country America is.

This young man named Barack Obama got one of those tickets and came over to this country. He met this woman whose great great-great-great-grandfather had owned slaves; but she had a good idea there was some craziness going on because they looked at each other and they decided that we know that the world as it has been it might not be possible for us to get together and have a child.

There was something stirring across the country because of what happened in Selma, Alabama, because some folks are willing to march across a bridge. So they got together and Barack Obama Jr. was born. So don't tell me I don't have a claim on Selma, Alabama. Don't tell me I'm not coming home to Selma, Alabama.

I'm here because somebody marched. I'm here because you all sacrificed for me. I stand on the shoulders of giants. I thank the Moses generation; but we've got to remember, now, that Joshua still had a job to do. As great as Moses was, despite all that he did, leading a people out of bondage, he didn't cross over the river to see the Promised Land. God told him your job is done. You'll see it. You'll be at the mountain top and you can see what I've promised. What I've promised to Abraham and Isaac and Jacob. You will see that I've fulfilled that promise but you won't go there."

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Yes. The "I am here today" refers pretty obviously to his presence as a candidate for President, not his birth. He didn't say "Selma Got Me Born" either, that's YOUR license.

Did he pander some? Yes. He did.

If you want to compare that to Brewer turning her father into some WWII Nazi fighting War Hero, and her fetid pandering, fine.

Obama took shit for his comments. She has to take shit for hers.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

**this is a public service announcement**

I like to browse this site for Entertainment value between doing rigorous Math, at my desk at work. It really sucks ass when I have to duck and cover because of some tight-booty avatars, when co-workers walk by.

Feel free to ignore this statement. Just tossing it out there. ; )

Well not everyone wants a cartoon avatar. Some people have actually outgrown cartoons.

What are you, 5 years old? Grow up, dude.

Grow up? I'm not the one with a cartoon avatar and whining about what others use as their avatars.

 

[G.T.]

Brewer distastefully embellished. I don't think there's an argument to be made otherwise, and that's totally within context a distasteful embellishment. She made her Dad sound like a War vet by the way she chose her words.

Yea, I found it distasteful when Obama claimed that the Civil Rights Marches were responsible for his birth.

"Politicians play with words to their own advantage" - News at 10. ******* hell, this is pathetic.

He didn't say that, though, which is the problem with your comparison. He didn't embellish anything, at all. He basically said that because of the movement, his running was possible. That's a complement to the civil rights movement, not a self-praising embellishment........like this chick did with her father. Meh, reality doesn't matter though.

 

[G.T.]

Well not everyone wants a cartoon avatar. Some people have actually outgrown cartoons.

What are you, 5 years old? Grow up, dude.

Grow up? I'm not the one with a cartoon avatar and whining about what others use as their avatars.

A: Didn't whine.
B: Cartoon Avatar? It's a drawing, not a cartoon. A cartoon is animated. This is a still photo.
C: Grow up. Eat shit. Poop Cheerios.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

You find that exact quote from Obamam, Cali-crumbs. You won't find it, even though you just used that quote.


Context is too difficult for some folks, 'specially Cali-crumbs. snopes.com: Say What, Barack?

Do you duck so the point goes over your head? Genuine question.

Even ******* snopes excuses his claims by saying it's the context of the words, not the words. My point - this is the exact same thing as you are doing with Brewer.

In his speech.... and I have a copy of the whole speech - as delivered and as originally written - he clearly connects his birth with the Selma marches etc. BUT - any intelligent person knows the dates don't work.

So, if you can argue about what Obama meant and what he actually said.... then, surely to God, you can see the same shit with Brewer's remarks? If yes, you have a brain. If no, you are a partisan hack. Simple.

...Said the hack.

Did Obama use some poetic license here?

"What happened in Selma, Alabama and Birmingham also stirred the conscience of the nation. It worried folks in the White House who said, "You know, we're battling Communism. How are we going to win hearts and minds all across the world? If right here in our own country, John, we're not observing the ideals set fort in our Constitution, we might be accused of being hypocrites." So the Kennedy's decided we're going to do an air lift. We're going to go to Africa and start bringing young Africans over to this country and give them scholarships to study so they can learn what a wonderful country America is.

This young man named Barack Obama got one of those tickets and came over to this country. He met this woman whose great great-great-great-grandfather had owned slaves; but she had a good idea there was some craziness going on because they looked at each other and they decided that we know that the world as it has been it might not be possible for us to get together and have a child.

There was something stirring across the country because of what happened in Selma, Alabama, because some folks are willing to march across a bridge. So they got together and Barack Obama Jr. was born. So don't tell me I don't have a claim on Selma, Alabama. Don't tell me I'm not coming home to Selma, Alabama.

I'm here because somebody marched. I'm here because you all sacrificed for me. I stand on the shoulders of giants. I thank the Moses generation; but we've got to remember, now, that Joshua still had a job to do. As great as Moses was, despite all that he did, leading a people out of bondage, he didn't cross over the river to see the Promised Land. God told him your job is done. You'll see it. You'll be at the mountain top and you can see what I've promised. What I've promised to Abraham and Isaac and Jacob. You will see that I've fulfilled that promise but you won't go there."

​

Yes. The "I am here today" refers pretty obviously to his presence as a candidate for President, not his birth. He didn't say "Selma Got Me Born" either, that's YOUR license.

Did he pander some? Yes. He did.

If you want to compare that to Brewer turning her father into some WWII Nazi fighting War Hero, and her fetid pandering, fine.

Obama took shit for his comments. She has to take shit for hers.

I knew you couldn't think for yourself. Unless you are Savannah on veggieboards.

What happened in Selma, Alabama and Birmingham also stirred the conscience of the nation. It worried folks in the White House who said, "You know, we're battling Communism. How are we going to win hearts and minds all across the world? If right here in our own country, John, we're not observing the ideals set fort in our Constitution, we might be accused of being hypocrites." So the Kennedy's decided we're going to do an air lift. We're going to go to Africa and start bringing young Africans over to this country and give them scholarships to study so they can learn what a wonderful country America is.

This young man named Barack Obama got one of those tickets and came over to this country. He met this woman whose great great-great-great-grandfather had owned slaves; but she had a good idea there was some craziness going on because they looked at each other and they decided that we know that the world as it has been it might not be possible for us to get together and have a child. There was something stirring across the country because of what happened in Selma, Alabama, because some folks are willing to march across a bridge. So they got together and Barack Obama Jr. was born. So don't tell me I don't have a claim on Selma, Alabama. Don't tell me I'm not coming home to Selma, Alabama.

I'm here because somebody marched. I'm here because you all sacrificed for me. I stand on the shoulders of giants. I thank the Moses generation; but we've got to remember, now, that Joshua still had a job to do. As great as Moses was, despite all that he did, leading a people out of bondage, he didn't cross over the river to see the Promised Land. God told him your job is done. You'll see it. You'll be at the mountain top and you can see what I've promised. What I've promised to Abraham and Isaac and Jacob. You will see that I've fulfilled that promise but you won't go there.

The "I am here today" refers obviously to his presence as a candidate for President, not his birth. he didn't say "Selma Got Me Born" either. The speech is also basically poetic throughout and beautifully written in comparison to the usual politician's speech and it isn't a chronology, so please, the distorter was just looking for a way to accuse Obama of 'lying'. did he use a little poetic license that made the chronology unclear? yes. did he make a statement that was undeniably false by saying directly 'Selma Got Me Born'? nope. if this passage had appeared in his autobiographies trying to establish a chronology and not within a prosaic speech that would be different, but it didn't and so it is not. much of the email is the same kind of BS and stoops to outright lies about his family, his schooling, his religion, his law professor status, his lawyer status, etc..

This is a very interesting read on Obama. I received in my e-mail

 

[Lonestar_logic]

What are you, 5 years old? Grow up, dude.

Grow up? I'm not the one with a cartoon avatar and whining about what others use as their avatars.

A: Didn't whine.
B: Cartoon Avatar? It's a drawing, not a cartoon. A cartoon is animated. This is a still photo.
C: Grow up. Eat shit. Poop Cheerios.

Ah semantics. That's all you got. Ok I'll play, you have a comic book character as your avatar, you say things like eat shit, poop cheerios and you cry about having to hide provocative avatars ( so mommy won't see ). Yep sounds real grown up to me.

 

[G.T.]

Grow up? I'm not the one with a cartoon avatar and whining about what others use as their avatars.

A: Didn't whine.
B: Cartoon Avatar? It's a drawing, not a cartoon. A cartoon is animated. This is a still photo.
C: Grow up. Eat shit. Poop Cheerios.

Ah semantics. That's all you got. Ok I'll play, you have a comic book character as your avatar, you say things like eat shit, poop cheerios and you cry about having to hide provocative avatars ( so mommy won't see ). Yep sounds real grown up to me.

I was being ironic on-purpose you dumb ******* retard.

Jesus Christ, do you ever get tired of being a douche bag? Why don't you try being cordial with other posters for five ******* seconds. Holy shit.

 

[Angelhair]

Brewer did not say that he FAUGHT the nazis - she said he 'faught' them by working in a munitions factory! In a way, THAT IS fighting the nazis just as those who worked building planes to fight them, etc.! Nobody is better at embellishment than is 'the great one'!! Bar none.

 

[G.T.]

Brewer did not say that he FAUGHT the nazis - she said he 'faught' them by working in a munitions factory! In a way, THAT IS fighting the nazis just as those who worked building planes to fight them, etc.! Nobody is better at embellishment than is 'the great one'!! Bar none.

Angelhair is my chick's favorite pasta.

 

[Jarhead]

Brewer did not say that he FAUGHT the nazis - she said he 'faught' them by working in a munitions factory! In a way, THAT IS fighting the nazis just as those who worked building planes to fight them, etc.! Nobody is better at embellishment than is 'the great one'!! Bar none.

Citizens of that great generation are well aware that just about every American at that time was fighting the Nazi's in some way shape or form.

Sadly, the selfish generations that followed can not comprehend such "patriotism". Only those raping, killing army people of today fight wars. And they should be dammed to hell for doing it.

And it is those selfish generations who can not comprehend true patriotism that decided to use her fathers death as a political tool against a political party..

Pathetic.

 

[random3434]

Brewer did not say that he FAUGHT the nazis - she said he 'faught' them by working in a munitions factory! In a way, THAT IS fighting the nazis just as those who worked building planes to fight them, etc.! Nobody is better at embellishment than is 'the great one'!! Bar none.

Citizens of that great generation are well aware that just about every American at that time was fighting the Nazi's in some way shape or form.

Sadly, the selfish generations that followed can not comprehend such "patriotism". Only those raping, killing army people of today fight wars. And they should be dammed to hell for doing it.

And it is those selfish generations who can not comprehend true patriotism that decided to use her fathers death as a political tool against a political party..

Pathetic.

Sadly, the selfish generations that followed can not comprehend such "patriotism". Only those raping, killing army people of today fight wars. And they should be dammed to hell for doing it.

You just called everyone that's ever served in the military since WW2 Pussies.

Shame on you!

You are insane.

 

[del]

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I like to browse this site for Entertainment value between doing rigorous Math, at my desk at work. It really sucks ass when I have to duck and cover because of some tight-booty avatars, when co-workers walk by.

Feel free to ignore this statement. Just tossing it out there. ; )

if you go to user CP and select *edit option*, you can turn off avatars so they don't appear on your screen, just the members name

 

[California Girl]

Brewer did not say that he FAUGHT the nazis - she said he 'faught' them by working in a munitions factory! In a way, THAT IS fighting the nazis just as those who worked building planes to fight them, etc.! Nobody is better at embellishment than is 'the great one'!! Bar none.

Citizens of that great generation are well aware that just about every American at that time was fighting the Nazi's in some way shape or form.

Sadly, the selfish generations that followed can not comprehend such "patriotism". Only those raping, killing army people of today fight wars. And they should be dammed to hell for doing it.

And it is those selfish generations who can not comprehend true patriotism that decided to use her fathers death as a political tool against a political party..

Pathetic.

Yep.

It's interesting how dismissive some people are to those who suffered long term consequences of working for the war effort in WWII. Their service is unimportant, apparently.

 

[WillowTree]

A: Didn't whine.
B: Cartoon Avatar? It's a drawing, not a cartoon. A cartoon is animated. This is a still photo.
C: Grow up. Eat shit. Poop Cheerios.

Ah semantics. That's all you got. Ok I'll play, you have a comic book character as your avatar, you say things like eat shit, poop cheerios and you cry about having to hide provocative avatars ( so mommy won't see ). Yep sounds real grown up to me.

I was being ironic on-purpose you dumb ******* retard.

Jesus Christ, do you ever get tired of being a douche bag? Why don't you try being cordial with other posters for five ******* seconds. Holy shit.

 

[del]

Well not everyone wants a cartoon avatar. Some people have actually outgrown cartoons.

What are you, 5 years old? Grow up, dude.

Grow up? I'm not the one with a cartoon avatar and whining about what others use as their avatars.

tissue?

 

[G.T.]

I smoked a fat blunt when I was like 20 and I shit you not.....

Strawberry pop-tarts dipped in melted, spicy nacho cheese was one of the greatest things I've ever tasted.

Thanks for that info, Del. Very appreciated.

 

[del]

I smoked a fat blunt when I was like 20 and I shit you not.....

Strawberry pop-tarts dipped in melted, spicy nacho cheese was one of the greatest things I've ever tasted.

Thanks for that info, Del. Very appreciated.

sounds tasty, but not as good as hershey's syrup on whole wheat.