Avoid Sugar

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Im not sure what he's talking about. Type 1 Diabetes has genetic causes not Type 2 though we dont know what causes it for sure. At least according to the Mayo clinic.

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I don't know enough about Type 1 to comment. Sorry.

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[Bob Blaylock]

I eat zero sugar and less than 20g of carbs daily. Weirdly, I haven't died yet.

If you don't eat any sugar at all (which I find very unlikely) then you do eat things that your body can convert to sugar. Otherwise, you would die.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

.My husband's Type 2 was caused by statin drugs. His doctor confirmed this..

I suppose that doesn't sound entirely implausible.

Naturally, Type 2 only happens to those who have the genetic pattern for it.

But statins aren't exactly natural. It doesn't seem at all implausible to me that an artificial drug might have a side effect of causing insulin resistance.

 

[Couchpotato]

If you don't eat any sugar at all (which I find very unlikely) then you do eat things that your body can convert to sugar. Otherwise, you would die.

I eat zero refined sugar. What sugar I do intake is very little from the limited fruit that I eat. I eat essentially zero carbs, what I do eat is offset by the fiber in the food that contains the carbs. But I dont eat bread, pasta, rice, corn, any grains etc. I eat, meat, dairy, and vegetables.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

I eat zero refined sugar. What sugar I do intake is very little from the limited fruit that I eat. I eat essentially zero carbs, what I do eat is offset by the fiber in the food that contains the carbs. But I dont eat bread, pasta, rice, corn, any grains etc. I eat, meat, dairy, and vegetables.

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I'm still trying to get over the icky "keto flu" that hits when I have -- possibly inadvertently -- stopped consuming carbs. It's AWFUL!

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[Couchpotato]

I suppose that doesn't sound entirely implausible.

Naturally, Type 2 only happens to those who have the genetic pattern for it.

But statins aren't exactly natural. It doesn't seem at all implausible to me that an artificial drug might have a side effect of causing insulin resistance.

Did you click the links to the Mayo Clinic I posted? It says the exact opposite of what you're saying.

Type 1, while we dont know exactly what causes it genetics plays a role.

Type 2, the main cause is being obese, and having an unhealthy lifestyle.

Are you claiming the Mayo Clinic doesnt follow the "science"?

 

[Couchpotato]

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I'm still trying to get over the icky "keto flu" that hits when I have -- possibly inadvertently -- stopped consuming carbs. It's AWFUL!

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I've never really experienced that. Are you sure your macro nutrients are right? I think its just one of the things some people experience when they are transitioning. It's not for everyone. My wife cant do it.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Im [sic] not sure what he's talking about. Type 1 Diabetes has genetic causes not Type 2 though we dont [sic] know what causes it for sure. At least according to the Mayo clinic.

I come from a family where nearly everyone on my father's side has, or eventually will get, type 2 diabetes.

It's also not uncommon on my mother's side, but not nearly as prolific.

It does not often occur in people who do not have relatives that have it also.

It absolutely is genetic.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

I've never really experienced that. Are you sure your macro nutrients are right? I think its just one of the things some people experience when they are transitioning. It's not for everyone. My wife cant do it.

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I supplement magnesium and calcium. B-complex. D3.

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[Couchpotato]

I come from a family where nearly everyone on my father's side has, or eventually will get, type 2 diabetes.

It's also not uncommon on my mother's side, but not nearly as prolific.

It does not often occur in people who do not have relatives that have it also.

It absolutely is genetic.

Not according to the Mayo Clinic. youll forgive me if I believe them before you.

 

[Couchpotato]

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I supplement magnesium and calcium. B-complex. D3.

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I mean your protein, fat, carb ratios.

 

[Couchpotato]

I come from a family where nearly everyone on my father's side has, or eventually will get, type 2 diabetes.

It's also not uncommon on my mother's side, but not nearly as prolific.

It does not often occur in people who do not have relatives that have it also.

It absolutely is genetic.

Are any of these people skinny? Do all of them hold the sa,e ideas about eating as you do?

 

[Blaster]

Not according to the Mayo Clinic. youll forgive me if I believe them before you.

He thinks he knows better than the Mayo Clinic. Ask him where he got his medical degree.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

I mean your protein, fat, carb ratios.

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Oh, okay.

I don't know exact ratios but protein and fat are big in my diet. I can easily lose track of how few carbs I am eating and going keto always takes me by surprise.

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[Couchpotato]

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I supplement magnesium and calcium. B-complex. D3.

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Keto Calculator | Determine Your Personal Macros [Precise & Simple]

This calculator helps you find your nutrition needs on a ketogenic diet. Proper fat, protein, and carb intake is essential - and this makes it simple!

www.ruled.me

That's a great website. Great recipes, good info etc.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

I eat essentially zero carbs, what I do eat is offset by the fiber in the food that contains the carbs.

Fiber doesn't offset” carbs.

Fiber actually is carbs, but in a form that we cannot digest. It's counted in the total carbs on the nutrition label, but you subtract the amount of fiber from the total carbs to get the amount of carbs that will actually be processed into your blood as sugar.

Fiber is mostly cellulose, a form of sugar that is indigestible to us. Almost any chemical that ends in “…ose” is a sugar.

Then there are sugar alcohols. Not actually sugar, and not actually alcohol, but for some reason, they're call sugar alcohols. Also count as carbs, and they do somehow get processed into energy, but without raising your blood sugar level. I don't really know how that works out that way. Most prominently used in diabetic-friendly candy, because in addition to being sweet, they also have similar physical properties to sugar, such that applications that depend on sugar for their physicals structure can be made also with sugar alcohols. The video below, from some years back, is of me cutting up some sugar-alcohol-based (probably sorbitol) sugar-free candy, and feeding it into a cotton candy machine, showing that it behaves in a physical manner similar to that of sugar.

Sugar alcohols tend to have a nasty side effect on the digestive system if you eat very much of it.

Nearly all chemicals that end in “…itol” are sugar alcohols.




Oddly, sucralose (AKA Splenda®) is not counted on nutritional labels as carbs or sugar, even though technically, it is.

As a diabetic, it is fortunate for me that most modern automobiles use fuel injection instead of carburetors, as it is necessary for me to be wary of excess carbs.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Keto Calculator | Determine Your Personal Macros [Precise & Simple]

This calculator helps you find your nutrition needs on a ketogenic diet. Proper fat, protein, and carb intake is essential - and this makes it simple!

www.ruled.me

That's a great website. Great recipes, good info etc.

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Thank you. I will check it out!

I have an issue with oxalic acid, which is in all plant foods, and I know I need to get far more creative about the limited kinds of veg I can eat.

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[Bob Blaylock]

Did you click the links to the Mayo Clinic I posted? It says the exact opposite of what you're saying.

Type 1, while we dont [sic] know exactly what causes it genetics plays a role.

Type 2, the main cause is being obese, and having an unhealthy lifestyle.

Are you claiming the Mayo Clinic doesnt [sic] follow the "science"?

I have never been obese, and yet I definitely have type 2.

I've never had the “unhealthy” lifestyle being blamed here, and yet I have type 2.

Nearly all my relatives on my father's side of the family, coming from a wide range of different lifestyles, have it.

It's genetic.

 

[Couchpotato]

I have never been obese, and yet I definitely have type 2.

I've never had the “unhealthy” lifestyle being blamed her, and yet I have type 2.

Nearly all my relatives on my father's side of the family, coming from a wide range of different lifestyles, have it.

It's genetic.

Take it up with the Mayo Clinic. No offense but you've been completely full of shit this entire thread so I dont necessarily trust that your opinion of what is or isnt obese is accurate.

 

[Natural Citizen]

The only sugar I consume is, I'm guessing, a teaspoon of sugar in the small loaf of gluten free cornbread that I make from a mix.

I remember the first time I had cornbread after the old man migrated us up north.

First time in my life I'd tasted cornbread with sugar in it because where I was from it just wasnlt done that way. It caught me totally off guard, too.

I didn't get beyond the first bite.

Everybody likes their own thing, obviously, but that was just the weirdest thing to me at the time.