Attention People who leap to judgments very quickly - The Palisades blaze? Visual evidence points to a recent fire nearby

[Dante]

We are here - back again -- Because facts matter. Think of it as a public service.​

There exist sources of information that are available to all of us. Some are credible, some are not, and some are incomplete. People are not always aware of how what they choose to absorb and later distribute isn't always credible, factual - truth.​

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"According to a study published Wednesday (October 9, 2024), in the journal Plos One, it comes down to believing you have all the information you need to form an opinion, even when you don’t."​

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quote: “People are more open-minded and willing to change their opinions than we assume,” *Fletcher said. However, “this same flexibility doesn’t apply to long-held differences, such as political beliefs.” .​

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“Our brains are overconfident that they can arrive at a reasonable conclusion with very little information,” said Angus Fletcher, a professor of English at Ohio State University, who co-wrote the study.​

What caused the Palisades blaze? Visual evidence points to a recent fire nearby​

Did New Year’s Eve fireworks start the largest Los Angeles fire?

Today at 12:31 p.m. EST
PACIFIC PALISADES, CALIFORNIA—About 30 minutes after the Palisades Fire started on Tuesday, the firefighters’ radio crackled: The flames were coming from a familiar sliver of a mountain ridge.

“The foot of the fire started real close to where the last fire was on New Year’s Eve,” said a Los Angeles County firefighter, according to a Washington Post review of archived radio transmissions.

“It looks like it’s going to make a good run,” one chimed into the dispatch.

The Post’s analysis of photos, videos, satellite imagery and radio communications, as well as interviews with witnesses, offers new evidence that the Palisades Fire started in the area where firefighters had spent hours using helicopters to knock down a blaze six days earlier.

Investigators from state and federal agencies descended on this area in recent days, interviewing residents and looking for evidence — including around the burn scar of the New Year’s Eve fire — of what sparked the blaze.

The Post’s analysis showed that the new fire started in the vicinity of the old fire, raising the possibility that the New Year’s Eve fire was reignited, which can occur in windy conditions, experts said.

Residents also told The Post and investigators on scene that firefighters’ response on Tuesday was much slower than on New Year’s Eve — a view confirmed by radio transmissions.

 

[Dante]

“invisible gorilla” study:

Did he just say he's a gorilla?

www.nbcnews.com

July 16, 2012, 11:48 AM PDT
By Cari Nierenberg
You've heard about the elephant in the room, which no one wants to talk about. Now new research describes a gorilla in the room, which not everyone seems to hear.

This "invisible gorilla" study found that when people were focused on a visual task -- watching a video and counting the number of basketball passes made by one team -- they failed to notice someone walking across a basketball court dressed in a gorilla suit.

Attention People who leap to judgments very quickly - New Orleans Police don't believe any other suspects involved

We are here - back again -- Because facts matter. Think of it as a public service. There exist sources of information that are available to all of us. Some are credible, some are not, and some are incomplete. People are not always aware of how what they choose to absorb and later distribute...

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[sparky]

see......this is why we can't take you anywhere Dante'.....~S~

 

[MisterBeale]

I'm not sure it matters.


Newsome's political prospects are still probably over.

 

[Dante]

I'm not sure it matters.


Newsome's[sic] political prospects are still probably over.

Newsom?

People care how the fire started. Newsom had nothing to do with it.

 

[sparky]

Should old pyrotechs be forgot
And never brought to mind?
Should old pyrotechs be forgot
In the days of long fire lines........

~S~

 

[MisterBeale]

Newsom?

People care how the fire started. Newsom had nothing to do with it.

Only to those folks that are stoopid enough to bleev that "climate change," is the reason for the fires, and have something to gain by keeping this corrupt politician in power.

Gavin Newsom cut fire budget by $100m last year for shocking reason

Gavin Newsom is coming under fire for slashing California 's funding for wildfire and forest resilience by $101 million less than a year before devastating fires tore through Los Angeles.

www.dailymail.co.uk

LA Mayor Karen Bass demanded $49M budget cuts for fire department

A leaked memo sent to Los Angeles fire departments revealed Mayor Karen Bass demanded an extra $49M in budget cuts on top of the $17.6million already cut a week before fires.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Wildfires and the Hoary Hoax of a Burning Planet

The California fires are a function of government policies. Officials have curtailed the supply of water available to firefighters.

brownstone.org

Fire budget was cut by Newsom by $100 million before Los Angeles wildfires: report

Among the budget cuts were $28 million from "multiple state conservancies that expand wildfire resilience." A spokesperson for Newsom called the reported budget cuts a "ridiculous lie."

justthenews.com

A month before fires, L.A. fire chief warned budget cuts were hampering emergency response

The Los Angeles Fire Department's budget was cut by $17.6 million, about 2%, this fiscal year. The fire chief warned last month it would make it harder to respond to emergencies.

www.cbsnews.com

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Only to those folks that are stoopid enough to bleev that "climate change," is the reason for the fires, and have something to gain by keeping this corrupt politician in power.

Gavin Newsom cut fire budget by $100m last year for shocking reason

Gavin Newsom is coming under fire for slashing California 's funding for wildfire and forest resilience by $101 million less than a year before devastating fires tore through Los Angeles.

www.dailymail.co.uk

LA Mayor Karen Bass demanded $49M budget cuts for fire department

A leaked memo sent to Los Angeles fire departments revealed Mayor Karen Bass demanded an extra $49M in budget cuts on top of the $17.6million already cut a week before fires.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Wildfires and the Hoary Hoax of a Burning Planet

The California fires are a function of government policies. Officials have curtailed the supply of water available to firefighters.

brownstone.org

Fire budget was cut by Newsom by $100 million before Los Angeles wildfires: report

Among the budget cuts were $28 million from "multiple state conservancies that expand wildfire resilience." A spokesperson for Newsom called the reported budget cuts a "ridiculous lie."

justthenews.com

A month before fires, L.A. fire chief warned budget cuts were hampering emergency response

The Los Angeles Fire Department's budget was cut by $17.6 million, about 2%, this fiscal year. The fire chief warned last month it would make it harder to respond to emergencies.

www.cbsnews.com

Oh c'mon Newsome is the great white dope

 

[Dante]

In hilly, upscale Pacific Palisades, home to Hollywood stars like Jamie Lee Curtis and Billy Crystal who lost houses in the fire, officials have placed the origin of the wind-whipped blaze behind a home on Piedra Morada Drive, which sits above a densely wooded arroyo.

We are here - back again -- Because facts matter. Think of it as a public service.​

There exist sources of information that are available to all of us. Some are credible, some are not, and some are incomplete. People are not always aware of how what they choose to absorb and later distribute isn't always credible, factual - truth.​

​

"According to a study published Wednesday (October 9, 2024), in the journal Plos One, it comes down to believing you have all the information you need to form an opinion, even when you don’t."​

​

quote: “People are more open-minded and willing to change their opinions than we assume,” *Fletcher said. However, “this same flexibility doesn’t apply to long-held differences, such as political beliefs.” .​

​

“Our brains are overconfident that they can arrive at a reasonable conclusion with very little information,” said Angus Fletcher, a professor of English at Ohio State University, who co-wrote the study.​

What caused the Palisades blaze? Visual evidence points to a recent fire nearby​

Did New Year’s Eve fireworks start the largest Los Angeles fire?

Today at 12:31 p.m. EST
PACIFIC PALISADES, CALIFORNIA—About 30 minutes after the Palisades Fire started on Tuesday, the firefighters’ radio crackled: The flames were coming from a familiar sliver of a mountain ridge.

“The foot of the fire started real close to where the last fire was on New Year’s Eve,” said a Los Angeles County firefighter, according to a Washington Post review of archived radio transmissions.

“It looks like it’s going to make a good run,” one chimed into the dispatch.

The Post’s analysis of photos, videos, satellite imagery and radio communications, as well as interviews with witnesses, offers new evidence that the Palisades Fire started in the area where firefighters had spent hours using helicopters to knock down a blaze six days earlier.

Investigators from state and federal agencies descended on this area in recent days, interviewing residents and looking for evidence — including around the burn scar of the New Year’s Eve fire — of what sparked the blaze.

The Post’s analysis showed that the new fire started in the vicinity of the old fire, raising the possibility that the New Year’s Eve fire was reignited, which can occur in windy conditions, experts said.

Residents also told The Post and investigators on scene that firefighters’ response on Tuesday was much slower than on New Year’s Eve — a view confirmed by radio transmissions.

For the low information, uninformed miscreants here:

A few facts:

While lightning, arson and utility lines are the most common causes, debris burning and fireworks are also common causes.​

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Fires are incited by myriad sources, including accidents.​

“It’s going to go out when it runs out of fuel, or when the weather stops,” Lentini said. “They’re not going to put that thing out until it’s ready to go out.” -- John Lentini, owner of Scientific Fire Analysis in Florida, who has investigated large fires in California including the Oakland Hills Fire in 1991, said the size and scope of the blaze doesn’t change the approach to finding out what caused it.

 

[Dante]

Only to those folks that are stoopid enough to bleev that "climate change," is the reason for the fires, and have something to gain by keeping this corrupt politician in power.

Gavin Newsom cut fire budget by $100m last year for shocking reason

Gavin Newsom is coming under fire for slashing California 's funding for wildfire and forest resilience by $101 million less than a year before devastating fires tore through Los Angeles.

www.dailymail.co.uk

LA Mayor Karen Bass demanded $49M budget cuts for fire department

A leaked memo sent to Los Angeles fire departments revealed Mayor Karen Bass demanded an extra $49M in budget cuts on top of the $17.6million already cut a week before fires.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Wildfires and the Hoary Hoax of a Burning Planet

The California fires are a function of government policies. Officials have curtailed the supply of water available to firefighters.

brownstone.org

Fire budget was cut by Newsom by $100 million before Los Angeles wildfires: report

Among the budget cuts were $28 million from "multiple state conservancies that expand wildfire resilience." A spokesperson for Newsom called the reported budget cuts a "ridiculous lie."

justthenews.com

A month before fires, L.A. fire chief warned budget cuts were hampering emergency response

The Los Angeles Fire Department's budget was cut by $17.6 million, about 2%, this fiscal year. The fire chief warned last month it would make it harder to respond to emergencies.

www.cbsnews.com

None of that addresses the weather and the facts on the ground.

you sound like this imbecile: “The fires are still raging in L.A.,” Mr. Trump wrote on his Truth Social site. “The incompetent pols have no idea how to put them out.”

None of that has to do with why or how the fire started. But thank you.

 

[Dante]

Oh c'mon Newsome is the great white dope

Hands down, that would be DJT

 

[Natural Citizen]

H/T to Gracie for posting this one...

 

[Manonthestreet]

We are here - back again -- Because facts matter. Think of it as a public service.​

There exist sources of information that are available to all of us. Some are credible, some are not, and some are incomplete. People are not always aware of how what they choose to absorb and later distribute isn't always credible, factual - truth.​

​

"According to a study published Wednesday (October 9, 2024), in the journal Plos One, it comes down to believing you have all the information you need to form an opinion, even when you don’t."​

​

quote: “People are more open-minded and willing to change their opinions than we assume,” *Fletcher said. However, “this same flexibility doesn’t apply to long-held differences, such as political beliefs.” .​

​

“Our brains are overconfident that they can arrive at a reasonable conclusion with very little information,” said Angus Fletcher, a professor of English at Ohio State University, who co-wrote the study.​

What caused the Palisades blaze? Visual evidence points to a recent fire nearby​

Did New Year’s Eve fireworks start the largest Los Angeles fire?

Today at 12:31 p.m. EST
PACIFIC PALISADES, CALIFORNIA—About 30 minutes after the Palisades Fire started on Tuesday, the firefighters’ radio crackled: The flames were coming from a familiar sliver of a mountain ridge.

“The foot of the fire started real close to where the last fire was on New Year’s Eve,” said a Los Angeles County firefighter, according to a Washington Post review of archived radio transmissions.

“It looks like it’s going to make a good run,” one chimed into the dispatch.

The Post’s analysis of photos, videos, satellite imagery and radio communications, as well as interviews with witnesses, offers new evidence that the Palisades Fire started in the area where firefighters had spent hours using helicopters to knock down a blaze six days earlier.

Investigators from state and federal agencies descended on this area in recent days, interviewing residents and looking for evidence — including around the burn scar of the New Year’s Eve fire — of what sparked the blaze.

The Post’s analysis showed that the new fire started in the vicinity of the old fire, raising the possibility that the New Year’s Eve fire was reignited, which can occur in windy conditions, experts said.

Residents also told The Post and investigators on scene that firefighters’ response on Tuesday was much slower than on New Year’s Eve — a view confirmed by radio transmissions.

Who are these people.....

 

[Dante]

H/T to Gracie for posting this one...

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those scenes are so fake

I live there

saw the real fires in Hollywood

 

[DigitalDrifter]

This is very concerning right here:

"Residents also told The Post and investigators on scene that firefighters’ response on Tuesday was much slower than on New Year’s Eve — a view confirmed by radio transmissions."

 

[Woodznutz]

Who cares how it started, put the damn thing out.

 

[Dante]

I'm not sure it matters.


Newsome's political prospects are still probably over.

Los Angeles fire investigation: Earlier fire possibly sparked by residents' fireworks​

By Brianna Sacks, Joyce Sohyun Lee, Imogen Piper, Aaron C. Davis
Washington Post·
12 Jan, 2025

I can't believe people who should know better were playing with fireworks during a period everyone is saying was predictable for serious fire dangers

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Who cares how it started, put the damn thing out.

They can't. Decades of mismanagement caught up with them

 

[Dante]

Who cares how it started, put the damn thing out.

Dear low information, uninformed miscreant,

“It’s going to go out when it runs out of fuel, or when the weather stops,” Lentini said. “They’re not going to put that thing out
until it’s ready to go out.” -- John Lentini, owner of Scientific Fire Analysis in Florida, who has investigated large fires in California including the Oakland Hills Fire in 1991, said the size and scope of the blaze doesn’t change the approach to finding out what caused it.

 

[Dante]

They can't. Decades of mismanagement caught up with them

Nope.

Mother Nature is playing