At this Point, the Best Election Year Strategy Would be to Pull ICE out of Minnesota Completely

Let Minnesota go back to what it was under Biden: a lawless frontier where there was no such thing as a U.S. border, and no distinction between Citizens and Illegal Aliens. In other words, what all fifty states were under Biden, whether they wanted it or not.

The governor, speaking on behalf of his Minnesotans, says they don't need no stinkin' ICE!



Is that what a Minnesota accent sounds like? Jesus.


"Eventual drawdown?" Forget that. Get out now.

Make sure it is widely disseminated in English, Spanish, Somali and any other of the thousands of languages spoken by our illegal immigrant population that Minnesota is now declared a sanctuary state not only by its governor, but by ICE itself.

illegals will flood Minnesota, as they seem to want. Other states will be rid of them, either through ICE surges, or secondary immigration to Minnesotastan.

A win-win!

Minnesota has been liberal for decades....
And a complete dumpster of a state.

They will be the LAST state of the 50 to get anymore Federal dollars.

The corruption runs non-stop there.
 
Trump has lost the plot, BIGLY.

Not even Republicans approve of his fascism.

He, and Republicans, are fucked going forward.
 
Hold on…Seriously, is that the spin we’re going to go with?
Sorry BL, there is no "spin" in me. If my opinion often parallels a republican, Trump, MAGA, et al., it is only because we both see the issue the same way, and if I seem to support them, it is not spin, it is only because I'm certain their view or actions are right, or at least a lot more valid to critical examination than the Left. But then, since you offer no specifics here other than a single word "spin," as a general derisive, it is pretty hard for me to say much more.

Lets just simplify this…the purple hair nose ringers told Trump to tone it down and he is…He’s their *****, they own him. Or am I missing something?
Apparently everything I described in my last post. Do you need me to repeat how the deal is going down? Trump is toning nothing down or giving anything up--- officials in Minneapolis are feeling heat now both from the community, the nation, and has even been excoriated by their own police union captain there who publicly blames Frey and Walz for literally the entire episode mobilizing these frenetic crowds both in word and deed with many public officials caught actually IN on the orchestration.

And now two people have died. This is all coming back on them.

And their own police ain't none too happy about being used as political pawns as they know none of this crap makes them look good and would not have happened had they been allowed to do their jobs of working with ICE to coordinate activity so that ICE could get their people, just get in and out then leave, while they the local police managed the crowd control. ICE is not trained to deal with city street crowds because their job is normally stopping, catching and busting really bad and dangerous people.

Both Frey and Walz deliberately held the police away so they could send their fanatics in unchecked to create a violent confrontation until some media event came out of it democrats could use both for the midterm elections and to keep the looming Somali fraud case off the front page, and it just ended up getting two people killed.

So, here's the deal that apparently none of the lying media are telling you.

Homan has brilliantly gone in there and pulled the rug out of all of this by forcing the city to allow police to do their jobs in exchange for a less pervasive and visible ICE presence. This takes away everything the Left were hoping for, ITMT, it both saves lives and allows ICE to go on with their work with less problems and danger to all. But it is all contingent on the city holding to their side of the deal. If they go back on their word, the deal is off. Bottom line, no names will be crossed off ICE's arrest list--- Trump has only BEGUN catching and booting criminal illegals out of the country back where they came from.

Of course the left will TRY to spin this as some "victory" or success, but they would be saying that anyway no matter what happened as they do that to everything, and only the same gullible, low-information rubes that already believe everything they say will continue to not see through it.

Now I'm sorry, if that isn't clear enough explanation, then I guess you are just falling victim to your own conspiracy theories as a few people here seem to insist on following irregardless of facts.
 
You know Trump can't run again right?
Remains to be seen.




Just kidding! I don't actually expect him to make it through the end of his second term.

But, I mean someone to run against his successor, which looks right not to be Rubio or Vance. Who can beat either of them?
 
Charge Walz, Frey and Ellison for sedition and their refusal to uphold the Federal Immigration laws. Beyond that they should be charged for negligence in letting organized riots run free in Minneapolis.
And INCITING those riots.
 
Sorry BL, there is no "spin" in me. If my opinion often parallels a republican, Trump, MAGA, et al., it is only because we both see the issue the same way, and if I seem to support them, it is not spin, it is only because I'm certain their view or actions are right, or at least a lot more valid to critical examination than the Left. But then, since you offer no specifics here other than a single word "spin," as a general derisive, it is pretty hard for me to say much more.


Apparently everything I described in my last post. Do you need me to repeat how the deal is going down? Trump is toning nothing down or giving anything up--- officials in Minneapolis are feeling heat now both from the community, the nation, and has even been excoriated by their own police union captain there who publicly blames Frey and Walz for literally the entire episode mobilizing these frenetic crowds both in word and deed with many public officials caught actually IN on the orchestration.

And now two people have died. This is all coming back on them.

And their own police ain't none too happy about being used as political pawns as they know none of this crap makes them look good and would not have happened had they been allowed to do their jobs of working with ICE to coordinate activity so that ICE could get their people, just get in and out then leave, while they the local police managed the crowd control. ICE is not trained to deal with city street crowds because their job is normally stopping, catching and busting really bad and dangerous people.

Both Frey and Walz deliberately held the police away so they could send their fanatics in unchecked to create a violent confrontation until some media event came out of it democrats could use both for the midterm elections and to keep the looming Somali fraud case off the front page, and it just ended up getting two people killed.

So, here's the deal that apparently none of the lying media are telling you.

Homan has brilliantly gone in there and pulled the rug out of all of this by forcing the city to allow police to do their jobs in exchange for a less pervasive and visible ICE presence. This takes away everything the Left were hoping for, ITMT, it both saves lives and allows ICE to go on with their work with less problems and danger to all. But it is all contingent on the city holding to their side of the deal. If they go back on their word, the deal is off. Bottom line, no names will be crossed off ICE's arrest list--- Trump has only BEGUN catching and booting criminal illegals out of the country back where they came from.

Of course the left will TRY to spin this as some "victory" or success, but they would be saying that anyway no matter what happened as they do that to everything, and only the same gullible, low-information rubes that already believe everything they say will continue to not see through it.

Now I'm sorry, if that isn't clear enough explanation, then I guess you are just falling victim to your own conspiracy theories as a few people here seem to insist on following irregardless of facts.
Good post, lots of information. Good real core Americans aren’t satisfied with libs just turning over the filth from their jails and prisons…we want the illegal cockroaches running the taco stands, we want old Abuela running up out healthcare tab…WE WANT THEM ALL. This, “just give us your prisoners” bullshit is BULLSHIT.
 
Let Minnesota go back to what it was under Biden: a lawless frontier where there was no such thing as a U.S. border, and no distinction between Citizens and Illegal Aliens. In other words, what all fifty states were under Biden, whether they wanted it or not.

The governor, speaking on behalf of his Minnesotans, says they don't need no stinkin' ICE!



Is that what a Minnesota accent sounds like? Jesus.


"Eventual drawdown?" Forget that. Get out now.

Make sure it is widely disseminated in English, Spanish, Somali and any other of the thousands of languages spoken by our illegal immigrant population that Minnesota is now declared a sanctuary state not only by its governor, but by ICE itself.

illegals will flood Minnesota, as they seem to want. Other states will be rid of them, either through ICE surges, or secondary immigration to Minnesotastan.

A win-win!

If ICE is withdrawn from Minnesota, it will encourage other states to behave as Minnesota has, and destroy the whole deportation plan, which was an important issue to voters who voted for Trump. The problems in Minnesota can be solved before midterms without alienating ICE supporters, but not by Noem.

Noem lost sight of the fact that the mission in Minnesota was not to win a debate with the Democrats who were attacking ICE, but to arrest illegals, and if Noem had done what every police department would have done if an officer killed a civilian, pledge a thorough investigation and put the officer on modified assignment until the investigation was over, it would have gone a long way to containing the response to the killing.

It is not too late to save the mission in Minnesota. The new face ICE is Tom Homan, and he can do what Noem should have done and also begin teaching those who support deportation but have been disturbed by the violence and seeming chaos why the deportation of all illegals is necessary to secure our borders.
 
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Election??? Not sure of the source but I read recently that the Devil hates Trump and not for a reason you'd understand. The devil is annoyed as hell as hell is crowded now and Trump and his followers will cause massive overcrowding. I thought this kinda funny, it may give some a reason to be a better person or at least try. Or even be a good American. Waddaya think?

We all think you are retarded
 
If ICE is withdrawn from Minnesota, it will encourage other states to behave as Minnesota has, and destroy the whole deportation plan, which was an important issue to voters who voted for Trump. The problems in Minnesota can be solved before midterms without alienating ICE supporters, but not by Noem.

Noem lost sight of the fact that the mission in Minnesota was not to win a debate with the Democrats who were attacking ICE, but to arrest illegals, and if Noem had done what every police department would have done if an officer killed a civilian, pledge a thorough investigation and put the officer on modified assignment until the investigation was over, it would have gone a long way to containing the response to the killing.

It is not too late to save the mission in Minnesota. The new face ICE is Tom Homan, and he can do what Noem should have done and also begin teaching those who support deportation but have been disturbed by the violence and seeming chaos why the deportation of all illegals is necessary to secure our borders.
Yeah, you make a good point about other states behaving like MN has.

But, it is ICE's lack of tactical expertise that has allowed MN to act this way in the first place.

One question I haven't seen answered about Pretti's suicide by cop, is what was ICE supposed to be doing? Who were they picking up for deportation? Likely someone that really needed to be gotten rid of.

But instead of arresting that person and processing him or her out, they wind up dealing with the rioters, which just draws more rioters, and now they are amateur crowd controllers instead of professional immigraton and customs enforcers.

Yes, I have no doubt that Homan will manage it better.
 
hahaha…Cuckservatives have been “choosing their battles” right into irrelevancy for decades.

Yeah but, YOU AIN'T SAYING NOTHING. I hate that when people do nothing but criticize someone else, the other party, whatever, telling us 24/7 what is WRONG with someone else, but how can you know wrong without knowing right?

Yet I don't see you telling anyone here what the RIGHT thing would be to do, the BETTER solution. It sounds like you're suggesting that Trump just forge ahead, charge on like a bull irregardless of it literally sending an entire city into the worst riot in 40 years, basically handing democrats the one thing they want most going into the midterms to justify their claims of Trump being this out of control dangerous dictator a danger to all now on some vengeance kick after Walz just because he misplaced a few billion dollars.

That mean, mean ol' Mr. Trump.
 
If ICE is withdrawn from Minnesota, it will encourage other states to behave as Minnesota has, and destroy the whole deportation plan, which was an important issue to voters who voted for Trump. The problems in Minnesota can be solved before midterms without alienating ICE supporters, but not by Noem.

You say that like it's a bad thing. We want this plan to fail. Actually, it was never realistic, and was focused on the wrong people, anyway.

Noem lost sight of the fact that the mission in Minnesota was not to win a debate with the Democrats who were attacking ICE, but to arrest illegals, and if Noem had done what every police department would have done if an officer killed a civilian, pledge a thorough investigation and put the officer on modified assignment until the investigation was over, it would have gone a long way to containing the response to the killing.

Um, the problem here is that some of these problems you can't gloss over. We have the video of ICE/CBP executing Good and Pretti. the usual 'Let's wait for an investigation that won't conclude until things have faded from memory" wasn't going to fly here.

It is not too late to save the mission in Minnesota. The new face ICE is Tom Homan, and he can do what Noem should have done and also begin teaching those who support deportation but have been disturbed by the violence and seeming chaos why the deportation of all illegals is necessary to secure our borders.

Um, no, guy. The problem is, people are seeing mass deportation in practice is much more problematic than it is in theory. People are repelled by children being used as bait to get their parents, or grandfathers being made to stand naked in the snow.

Homan isn't going to be the guy to fix this because it's unfixable.

The sensible thing to do would be to scale back, only go after actual criminals, until the Repukes are voted out in the midterms (pretty much inevitable no matter which way you go.) Then we can MAYBE talk about the immigration reform that SHOULD have happened 20 years ago.
 
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