At This Point, Let the Dems Own It

[JoeB131]

Lmfao you got to be kidding me, in 1970 the USA only had an estimated 500,000 illegals today it's anywhere between 20 and 40 million. You telling us with a straight face more people don't equal higher rent and housing cost?

Yeah, guy, you don't know what you are talking about.

The number of undocumented immigrants in the US right now is about 11.4 million.

Profile of the Unauthorized Population - US

Learn about the estimated 11.4 million unauthorized immigrants living in the United States—where do they live? When did they arrive in the United States, and from which origin countries? What are their levels of education, top industries of employment, income, parental and marital status, health...

www.migrationpolicy.org

 

[Cellblock2429]

Who shut it down?

/——-/ Is that a serious question? Trump shut it down because he refused to sign the bill, doing so cut funding for the Gubmint. Libtards blame Trump for democRATs bloated spending bills, then attack him for trying to stop it. We get it, Orange Man Bad no matter what he does.

 

[Cellblock2429]

They are not communists, your abuse of a word only causes your audience to yawn and move on, you are not worth listening to.

/——-/ Geee, thanks for the advice on how to better attack your side. Duly noted. BWHAHAHAHA BWHAHAHAHA

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

At this point I think I should root for the House to go narrowly to the Dems and the Senate as well.

Two more years of this. Let the voters really get what they voted for. Why not? America deserves it in spades. It will be Joe Biden unleashed. Who doesn't want more inflation, illegals pouring over the border, high gas prices? The liberals can abort their babies, so they're happy.

Really.

lol

Classic sour grapes.

Too funny.

Really.

 

[Moonglow]

LOL.....wow.....you really are stupid.........they voted in socialists....now they will suffer forever......socialism is a cancer that kills a country. Capitalism has lifted more people out of generational poverty than any other economic system...socialism cements poverty, corruption and crime into a countries lifeblood....

Yeah, 1929 proved that. NOT!

 

[Moonglow]

/——-/ Geee, thanks for the advice on how to better attack your side. Duly noted. BWHAHAHAHA BWHAHAHAHA

Of course, dehumanizing by default is always the answer to show the depth of subjugation one is willing to exert.

 

[candycorn]

/——-/ Is that a serious question? Trump shut it down because …

So he shut down the government and you blame the government shutdown on his spending $8T dollars? Sounds like you’re blaming your blob.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Yeah, guy, you don't know what you are talking about.

The number of undocumented immigrants in the US right now is about 11.4 million.

Profile of the Unauthorized Population - US

Learn about the estimated 11.4 million unauthorized immigrants living in the United States—where do they live? When did they arrive in the United States, and from which origin countries? What are their levels of education, top industries of employment, income, parental and marital status, health...

www.migrationpolicy.org

Who counted them? I gave you a ball park estimate that could be higher or lower and why didn't you link my FACT the USA only had around 500,000 illegals in 1970?

What are you afraid of the public knowing the facts?

 

[JoeB131]

Who counted them? I gave you a ball park estimate that could be higher or lower and why didn't you link my FACT the USA only had around 500,000 illegals in 1970?

What are you afraid of the public knowing the facts?

Actually, in 1970, we probably weren't making the distinction.

You see, prior to 1970, migrant workers would come up from Mexico, work a season, and then go back, and everyone would be fine with it.

Then the racists decided to start making the border harder to cross, so undocumented workers decided that instead of making this pain in the ass trip a couple times a year, they would just make it once and stay.

We could solve this problem easily by issuing guest worker passes, but we won't.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Actually, in 1970, we probably weren't making the distinction.

You see, prior to 1970, migrant workers would come up from Mexico, work a season, and then go back, and everyone would be fine with it.

Then the racists decided to start making the border harder to cross, so undocumented workers decided that instead of making this pain in the ass trip a couple times a year, they would just make it once and stay.

We could solve this problem easily by issuing guest worker passes, but we won't.

You calling Bill Clinton racist now? He is one of the first US presidents to start securing our borders

 

[JoeB131]

You calling Bill Clinton racist now? He is one of the first US presidents to start securing our borders

Well, because I am not a partisan robot like you are... .yes, I think Clinton caused a lot of the problem.

You see, the root cause of the flooding of migrants we had in the 1990's was because of NATFA, which Clinton signed. What that meant was that American Yellow Corn from Iowa could get into Mexico duty free, resulting in farmers of traditional Mexican white corn being priced out of the market.

So you have millions of now unemployed farm workers in Mexico, while white people in rural communities in America are getting the hell out and going to the cities and suburbs where the jobs are!

So... supply and demand.

Fixing immigration is going to require a lot more than hating Mexicans.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Well, because I am not a partisan robot like you are... .yes, I think Clinton caused a lot of the problem.

You see, the root cause of the flooding of migrants we had in the 1990's was because of NATFA, which Clinton signed. What that meant was that American Yellow Corn from Iowa could get into Mexico duty free, resulting in farmers of traditional Mexican white corn being priced out of the market.

So you have millions of now unemployed farm workers in Mexico, while white people in rural communities in America are getting the hell out and going to the cities and suburbs where the jobs are!

So... supply and demand.

Fixing immigration is going to require a lot more than hating Mexicans.

Bullshit, you're the partisan robot, I switched this year to being a democrat again and I am thinking about running for Congress in 2028 against Ron Johnson for Senate

That's why I am not anonymous anymore on these boards

 

[ColonelAngus]

They aren't just owning it, they are taking it.

As some predicted after 2020, with the mail-in ballots the GOP will never run government again. It will require real election reforms as the Dems gaslight their citizens into believing that secure, honest elections is "vote suppression".

The media won't say a word since Neo-Cons and Dems are one party now, thus, America is a one party state with open borders and expanding debt. Thus, election reforms are impossible, the political monarchies like it this way, their children will inherit the throne. The poor citizens will inherit a weakened dollar and high debt interest payments.

The best case scenario is that the Turtle is thrown out of politics, he has done nothing but hurt his own part,y but that's small consolation for what has happened in the U.S in a few short years. The RvW ruling that some cheered was designed to achieve just what it did, to help the Dems who were on the mat. It accomplished its goal.

Error and Fraud at Issue as Absentee Voting Rises (Published 2012)

Nationwide, mailed ballots now account for nearly 20 percent of votes, yet such ballots are more likely to be compromised, and contested, than those cast in person, statistics show.

www.nytimes.com

When it was military and old people who did mail in ballots, the NYT called them not secure.

So now they want universal mail in ballots?

 

[rightwinger]

Why, and please be specific

Because Democrats are the only Party that will actually do anything for We the People

Healthcare, Infrastructure, Education, Environment, Energy

Republicans only try to block all Democratic legislation without offering anything of their own

 

[2aguy]

Yeah, 1929 proved that. NOT!

Capitalism didn't create the Great Depression.....Roosevelts policies created the Great Depression......it lengthened and deepened the Depression...our country had had many depressions before the one in 1929...the only difference was when they happened, the government didn't try to enact socialist policies...so they lasted a year or two and then the economy bounced back........then Roosevelt and the other socialists saw their chance and tried their best to do what the socialists in Germany were doing....and they trashed our economy until after the War....

Depression of 1807
The Depression of 1807, which lasted about three years,

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1815-1821 Depression
The U.S. government had racked up heavy debts during The War of 1812, which cut severely into state banks’ supply of capital. The country was in the midst of a land speculation bubble, and as the banks called in their loans many defaulted, and a number of banks failed. Extreme fluctuations in the value and supply of wheat and cotton crops fueled several consecutive years of high unemployment and a stagnant economy.
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Depression of 1920-21
Although relatively short compared to many other U.S. recessionary periods, the Depression of 1920-21 was extremely severe. Following World War I, the United States underwent many changes as it adapted from its wartime state. This included experiencing the greatest levels of deflation in the country’s history, with, according to a Department of Commerce estimate, levels of 18% through 1920. With a tremendous influx of returning troops, unemployment spiked, with 1.6 million people joining the previously steady labor market.
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The Great Depression
A period of rampant speculation in the 20’s led to a market crash of epic proportions. Over the course of two days, beginning with the infamous “Black Tuesday,” the stock market lost more than a quarter of its value. Widely regarded as the worst recession in U.S. History, the Great Depression lasted 11 years, 8 months and saw unemployment rates of nearly 25%. U.S. economic production dropped by 50%, and nearly every developed country in the world was severely affected.

The 13 Worst Recessions, Depressions, and Panics In American History – Page 2 – 24/7 Wall St.

Depression of 1807 The Depression of 1807, which lasted about three years, was the result of English trade restrictions combined with the Embargo Act of 1807, which was passed under Thomas Jefferson as a means of preserving neutrality as tensions mounted between England and France. By...

247wallst.com

 

[2aguy]

Another lie by you, Cubans in the 1950s had a way better life, Pro baseball used to have spring training down there all the time, it was rich with tourist spending bucks.

And the socialists took over, promising an end to capitalism.......and now their people are stuck in the 1950s........with poverty and nothing else....the socialists in charge live like kings.....the people get their ration of beans and rice....

 

[SweetSue92]

You just said you can’t afford anything. That’s your fault. Maybe spend less time being a piñata on a message board?

I said that *I* cannot afford anything?

Quote that

 

[SweetSue92]

I can’t help being elite around folks like yourself. You give the world a superiority complex.

You are really terrible at this.

 

[SweetSue92]

lol

Classic sour grapes.

Too funny.

Really.

You don't agree?

Funny how many Democrats don't agree, huh?

 

[SweetSue92]

Because Democrats are the only Party that will actually do anything for We the People

Healthcare, Infrastructure, Education, Environment, Energy

Republicans only try to block all Democratic legislation without offering anything of their own

They've spent us right into inflation. People can't afford to eat.

MORE--isn't that what you want?