At least 6 dead, 9 injured in Sacramento shooting rampage

[2aguy]

Yes, but citizens of the US ought not to be able "to get a gun" in any case. Guns are made to put holes in things and people. Guns make nothing, they only destroy. That is their full purpose.

No, their purpose is to protect the owner. Guns are Able to do this without being fired.

 

[2aguy]

Yes, but citizens of the US ought not to be able "to get a gun" in any case. Guns are made to put holes in things and people. Guns make nothing, they only destroy. That is their full purpose.

Americans use their legal guns 1.1 million times a year to stop rapes, robberies, murders, stabbings, beatings….and only about 235 times a year do they have to kill the criminals too stupid to not attack a victim who has a gun.

 

[beagle9]

Yes, but citizens of the US ought not to be able "to get a gun" in any case. Guns are made to put holes in things and people. Guns make nothing, they only destroy. That is their full purpose.

Good people with guns never hurt anyone that didn't deserve it.

 

[GLASNOST]

Good people with guns never hurt anyone that didn't deserve it.

Shooting someone for trespassing or insulting their wives are not "good people". Neither are those who shoot someone for getting fired from their job, being issued with divorce papers, losing custody of their children, getting in the fast lane on the motorway, etc. etc. THE BOTTOM LINE: Americans with guns are not "good people".

 

[beagle9]

Shooting someone for trespassing or insulting their wives are not "good people". Neither are those who shoot someone for getting fired from their job, being issued with divorce papers, losing custody of their children, getting in the fast lane on the motorway, etc. etc. THE BOTTOM LINE: Americans with guns are not "good people".

Defining good people by your terms isn't an honest look at the term "good people" that is defined by my terms, because in your desperation to distort and cast narrow definitions on what I'm talking about in the defining of what constitutes a good person with his or her right to own a gun, makes what you are talking about two very different things here.

No one is dumb enough to buy into your attempt at stereotyping a person into some sort of blanketed character when we all know that our nation is smarter than you give it credit for.

 

[Turtlesoup]

Shooting someone for trespassing or insulting their wives are not "good people". Neither are those who shoot someone for getting fired from their job, being issued with divorce papers, losing custody of their children, getting in the fast lane on the motorway, etc. etc. THE BOTTOM LINE: Americans with guns are not "good people".

shooting someone for trespassing? ummmm...If you trespass on my property, I will assume that you are a threat.

 

[fncceo]

Need to send out the real Dredd, not that one.
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Blasphemy!

He stopped being Dredd 15 seconds into the movie when he took off the helmet.

In 45 years since the comic first came out, Dredd has never removed his helmet.

 

[beagle9]

shooting someone for trespassing? ummmm...If you trespass on my property, I will assume that you are a threat.

Yep, and they would be detained until some answers are given. If they escalate and become a threat, then they are done. The next action will be to call the EMS people, because Houston we got a medical problem instead of a trespass problem now.

 

[GLASNOST]

Defining good people by your terms isn't an honest look at the term "good people" that is defined by my terms, because in your desperation to distort and cast narrow definitions on what I'm talking about in the defining of what constitutes a good person with his or her right to own a gun, makes what you are talking about two very different things here.

No, we’re talking about the same thing it is just that you are squirming to find a crack in which to hide. As my THE BOTTOM LINE, I wrote, “Americans with guns are not "good people". Why do you think I said that?

No one is dumb enough to buy into your attempt at stereotyping a person into some sort of blanketed character when we all know that our nation is smarter than you give it credit for.

Now, this is really funny. If your eyes and ears were not closed you never would have made such a silly comment. Why? Because your main points are ….. “No one” believes what I said and everyone “knows that your nation is smarter than that”. Well! If no one believes what I said then how do you explain the never-ending discussions and arguments over gun ownership in the US, if they should be banned, etc? You do know that the subject is heavily debated everywhere you look, right? And then your assertion that “Americans are smarter”. Ha! Let’s go back to the above paragraph and why I said “Americans with guns are not good people” and see if “Americans are smarter”. In no other nation in the western world do the citizens shoot each other up on a daily basis. Kindergartens, primary schools, junior high schools, high schools, colleges, universities, post offices, churches, road rage, drive-by, shopping malls …… These are the “smarter” people you are talking about! LOL! So, why is it that Americans murder each other at a rate that cannot be found in any other western society in the world? I’ll tell you why: Because they are NOT smarter at all.

Guns don’t ‘go off’ by themselves, only the person pulling the trigger does that. You now have the reason why Americans (more than all others) should not own guns.

 

[GLASNOST]

shooting someone for trespassing? ummmm...If you trespass on my property, I will assume that you are a threat.

A "threat"? What's a'matta, are you afraid that the grass where the trespasser stepped won't pop up again or that stealing your hubcaps is worth taking a life for? But that's what the US is all about: 'THREATS' and 'HATE' - the absolutely last nation people should be allowed to have guns.

 

[beagle9]

No, we’re talking about the same thing it is just that you are squirming to find a crack in which to hide. As my THE BOTTOM LINE, I wrote, “Americans with guns are not "good people". Why do you think I said that?

Now, this is really funny. If your eyes and ears were not closed you never would have made such a silly comment. Why? Because your main points are ….. “No one” believes what I said and everyone “knows that your nation is smarter than that”. Well! If no one believes what I said then how do you explain the never-ending discussions and arguments over gun ownership in the US, if they should be banned, etc? You do know that the subject is heavily debated everywhere you look, right? And then your assertion that “Americans are smarter”. Ha! Let’s go back to the above paragraph and why I said “Americans with guns are not good people” and see if “Americans are smarter”. In no other nation in the western world do the citizens shoot each other up on a daily basis. Kindergartens, primary schools, junior high schools, high schools, colleges, universities, post offices, churches, road rage, drive-by, shopping malls …… These are the “smarter” people you are talking about! LOL! So, why is it that Americans murder each other at a rate that cannot be found in any other western society in the world? I’ll tell you why: Because they are NOT smarter at all.

Guns don’t ‘go off’ by themselves, only the person pulling the trigger does that. You now have the reason why Americans (more than all others) should not own guns.

Guns don't go off by themselves is absolutely right, but what we have in America is a failed state in which because of that fact the populous has had to arm itself more than it ever has in it's short history. So yes guns in that quantity do get into the hands of bad people in which good people have to defend themselves against (before the cops get there to take names and do paperwork), so until leadership somehow finds it way back to what is normal (begins to promote normalcy in policies again), and it decides to deconstruct that which has become abnormal in it's policies within society, (therefore lessoning the amount of policy's that are abnormal, otherwise for one example in allowing criminals to get out of jail after committing horrendous crimes with the now broken bail system), and presently (promoting such idiocy), and all within the overall normal societies, then the citizen's will remain armed at all cost.

 

[beagle9]

A "threat"? What's a'matta, are you afraid that the grass where the trespasser stepped won't pop up again or that stealing your hubcaps is worth taking a life for? But that's what the US is all about: 'THREATS' and 'HATE' - the absolutely last nation people should be allowed to have guns.

No it's all about the defense of our individual freedom's, something you in the other countries no nothing about because you've been under strict rule while your oligarchs and leadership live like kings and Queens amongst you.. lol

Here you want a little bit of extra soup today maybe ? To bad soup's running low due to world Poverty overall, so better luck tomorrow.

 

[GLASNOST]

No it's all about the defense of our individual freedom's, something you in the other countries no nothing about because you've been under strict rule while your oligarchs and leadership live like kings and Queens amongst you

You seriously do not know what you are talking about. Europe (in general) leads the world in freedom and in Democracy and if you do not believe me then you can check the International Democracy Index which is published annually and you will find that the US is only about 25th in the world. Furthermore, what you say about Kings and Queens is very childish and clearly represents your lack of knowledge of Europe beyond adolescent fairy tales of yore.

Guns don't go off by themselves is absolutely right, but what we have in America is a failed state in which because of that fact the populous has had to arm itself more than it ever has in it's short history. So yes guns in that quantity do get into the hands of bad people in which good people have to defend themselves against (before the cops get there to take names and do paperwork), so until leadership somehow finds it way back to what is normal (begins to promote normalcy in policies again), and it decides to deconstruct that which has become abnormal in it's policies within society, (therefore lessoning the amount of policy's that are abnormal, otherwise for one example in allowing criminals to get out of jail after committing horrendous crimes with the now broken bail system), and presently (promoting such idiocy), and all within the overall normal societies, then the citizen's will remain armed at all cost.

This is a paradox that plays straight into the hands of the X’s. I use X’s because I don’t want to speculate on the percentage of Military-Industrial Complex, the Illuminati, the Globalists, the Deep State & what-have-yous and the degree to which they cooperate with one another. Yes, I agree that the US is a failed state from the point of view of the American citizenry though it is a huge success from the point of view of those X’s. But let me avoid getting bogged down in the details of your reply and get to the real point. I paraphrase:

".… good people have to defend themselves against …. criminals ….. until leadership somehow finds it way back to what is normal …"

I hate to tell you this but “the leadership” has its lips pursed against the buttock of the X’s because it is the X’s that secure the enormously lucrative positions within the leadership, i.e. they are being extorted. THE BOTTOM LINE is that the leadership isn’t going to remedy the criminal and violent situation in the country and has no interest in doing so ….. EVER.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Shooting someone for trespassing or insulting their wives are not "good people". Neither are those who shoot someone for getting fired from their job, being issued with divorce papers, losing custody of their children, getting in the fast lane on the motorway, etc. etc. THE BOTTOM LINE: Americans with guns are not "good people".

shooting someone for trespassing? ummmm...If you trespass on my property, I will assume that you are a threat.

And the overwhelming majority of Americans with guns do not and would not ever shoot anyone for any of the other reasons listed in GLASNOST's post, or any comparable reasons. GLASNOST's statement that “Americans with guns are not ‘good people’.” is based on assuming that all “Americans with guns” would use those guns in improper ways that the vast majority of us would not.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

I wrote, “Americans with guns are not "good people". Why do you think I said that?

You wrote that because you are an ignorant mute donkey.

 

[GLASNOST]

In no other nation in the western world do the citizens shoot each other up on a daily basis. Kindergartens, primary schools, junior high schools, high schools, colleges, universities, post offices, churches, road rage, drive-by, shopping malls …… So, why is it that Americans murder each other at a rate that cannot be found in any other western society in the world?

And the overwhelming majority of Americans with guns do not and would not ever shoot anyone for any of the other reasons listed in or any comparable reasons.

"the overwhelming majority of Americans"? Ho-ho! Is reading comprehsnion a problem for you?
The overwhelming majority of people in the world who do kill for those reason are ..... wait for it ... Americans. You need to find a discussion suited to an adolescent mentaliy of reasoning.

 

[2aguy]

Shooting someone for trespassing or insulting their wives are not "good people". Neither are those who shoot someone for getting fired from their job, being issued with divorce papers, losing custody of their children, getting in the fast lane on the motorway, etc. etc. THE BOTTOM LINE: Americans with guns are not "good people".

You are an idiot.......those cases are the tiniest number of gun crimes....while 1.1 million Americans use their legal guns to stop crime...you asshat......

 

[2aguy]

You seriously do not know what you are talking about. Europe (in general) leads the world in freedom and in Democracy and if you do not believe me then you can check the International Democracy Index which is published annually and you will find that the US is only about 25th in the world. Furthermore, what you say about Kings and Queens is very childish and clearly represents your lack of knowledge of Europe beyond adolescent fairy tales of yore.

This is a paradox that plays straight into the hands of the X’s. I use X’s because I don’t want to speculate on the percentage of Military-Industrial Complex, the Illuminati, the Globalists, the Deep State & what-have-yous and the degree to which they cooperate with one another. Yes, I agree that the US is a failed state from the point of view of the American citizenry though it is a huge success from the point of view of those X’s. But let me avoid getting bogged down in the details of your reply and get to the real point. I paraphrase:

I hate to tell you this but “the leadership” has its lips pursed against the buttock of the X’s because it is the X’s that secure the enormously lucrative positions within the leadership, i.e. they are being extorted. THE BOTTOM LINE is that the leadership isn’t going to remedy the criminal and violent situation in the country and has no interest in doing so ….. EVER.

Europe?

World War 1.......World War 2......the Holocaust....ethnic cleansing....imperialism.....colonialism......The trans-atlantic slave trade.....socialism, communsim, fascism....

Europeans in 1930 handed over 15 milliion innocent men, women and children for murder....not war casualties....murdered by the German socialists....and handed over to the German socialists by the very countries that demanded their citizens turn in their guns...for their own safety.........


Now you have reached the point you are arresting people for singing the song "Kung Fu Fighting."

You shitheads have nothing to teach us about freedom...

 

[2aguy]

"the overwhelming majority of Americans"? Ho-ho! Is reading comprehsnion a problem for you?
The overwhelming majority of people in the world who do kill for those reason are ..... wait for it ... Americans. You need to find a discussion suited to an adolescent mentaliy of reasoning.

If you take 10,000 gun murders as the average number of gun murders in our country........the vast majority of the victims are actual criminals engaged in crime and the criminal lifestyle.....over 82 years since 1939 that would be 820,000 murdered....

In 6 years....from 1939 to 1945...when Americans with guns liberated Europe......Europeans murdered 15 million innocent men, women and children.....innocent people...not criminals...

Sell your bullshit to leftists in Europe.....they are the ones who believe the stupid shit that led to those murders....

 

[beagle9]

Europe?

World War 1.......World War 2......the Holocaust....ethnic cleansing....imperialism.....colonialism......The trans-atlantic slave trade.....socialism, communsim, fascism....

Europeans in 1930 handed over 15 milliion innocent men, women and children for murder....not war casualties....murdered by the German socialists....and handed over to the German socialists by the very countries that demanded their citizens turn in their guns...for their own safety.........


Now you have reached the point you are arresting people for singing the song "Kung Fu Fighting."

You shitheads have nothing to teach us about freedom...

Pure logic... Thanks