AT - After Trump

[Dadoalex]

So with trump's indictment perhaps we should talk about the GOP after Trump.

For the sake of discussion let's assume, for whatever reason, on dec 1, 2023 Trump is no longer running for President. What happens next in the GOP?

This is not about Trump and attempts to discuss him will be reported

Traditionally, in the GOP, Mike Pence would be the most likely successor. But...ewww. Even the GOP doesn't like him.

Desantis
Christie
Abbott
Ernst
Cotten
Cruz
Hawley
Johnson
Langford
Paul
Rubio
The Scotts
Sanders
Kemp
Noem
Lee
Youngkin
...Romney???

And what happens during the primaries? Do the losers claim voter fraud and challenge the results in court? Perhaps delaying the nomination past the general?
Do the losing GOP candidates resort to violence because they feel they've been cheated?

Absent Trump who would win the GOP nomination?
How much actual support would they have from within the GOP base?

I'd like to have a serious discussion so please refrain from Democrats, Trump (except as an endorser), LBGTQ+, Ukraine, and religion.

 

[elektra]

After Trump is the death of Liberty

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

So with trump's indictment perhaps we should talk about the GOP after Trump.

For the sake of discussion let's assume, for whatever reason, on dec 1, 2023 Trump is no longer running for President. What happens next in the GOP?

This is not about Trump and attempts to discuss him will be reported

Traditionally, in the GOP, Mike Pence would be the most likely successor. But...ewww. Even the GOP doesn't like him.

Desantis
Christie
Abbott
Ernst
Cotten
Cruz
Hawley
Johnson
Langford
Paul
Rubio
The Scotts
Sanders
Kemp
Noem
Lee
Youngkin
...Romney???

And what happens during the primaries? Do the losers claim voter fraud and challenge the results in court? Perhaps delaying the nomination past the general?
Do the losing GOP candidates resort to violence because they feel they've been cheated?

Absent Trump who would win the GOP nomination?
How much actual support would they have from within the GOP base?

I'd like to have a serious discussion so please refrain from Democrats, Trump (except as an endorser), LBGTQ+, Ukraine, and religion.

Ron DeSantis is the only Republican that has a chance to beat Joe Biden in a head to head match. However, he has not demonstrated that he can handle the spotlight of running for President.
Beyond that, the future of the party is clouded. They've gone for so long being the lapdogs of You-Know-Who, they've lost their identity entirely. There's no one that really stands out.
And that person will have the unenviable task of trying to distance themselves from the previous head of the party.

 

[kyzr]

The OP needs to look at who the GOP nominee is running against in 2024.
83-86 year old Joe Biden?
Stupid Kamala?
_______________???????

Whoever the GOP nominates will be electable. Whoever the democrats nominate will NOT be electable.

 

[kyzr]

Ron DeSantis is the only Republican that has a chance to beat Joe Biden in a head to head match. However, he has not demonstrated that he can handle the spotlight of running for President.
Beyond that, the future of the party is clouded. They've gone for so long being the lapdogs of You-Know-Who, they've lost their identity entirely. There's no one that really stands out.
And that person will have the unenviable task of trying to distance themselves from the previous head of the party.

Ron Desantis or Nikki Haley would mop the floor with old "senile" Joe Biden.

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

Ron Desantis or Nikki Haley would mop the floor with old "senile" Joe Biden.

No. They won't. DeSantis would make it interesting. But he's too much of a fascist. People will reject him.
Haley..doesn't stand a chance.

 

[The Banker]

The republicans have nothing at all besides wacko DeSantis, who ruined his chances with his war on personal freedoms

The GOP is in steady decline. It started with the failed GW Bush presidency, wars, and economic blow up, and took a turn for the worst with the Jan 6th Insurrection and stealing of highly classified documents

 

[Lastamender]

Ron DeSantis is the only Republican that has a chance to beat Joe Biden in a head to head match. However, he has not demonstrated that he can handle the spotlight of running for President.
Beyond that, the future of the party is clouded. They've gone for so long being the lapdogs of You-Know-Who, they've lost their identity entirely. There's no one that really stands out.
And that person will have the unenviable task of trying to distance themselves from the previous head of the party.

I see. DeSantis will get 82 million votes.

 

[kyzr]

No. They won't. DeSantis would make it interesting. But he's too much of a fascist. People will reject him.
Haley..doesn't stand a chance.

Maybe you aren't picturing Joe Biden at age 83-86? About a year from now. After falling a few more times, and a few hundred more gaffes.
No one will vote for too old Joe Biden. No one wants him as president now.

 

[BluesLegend]

So with trump's indictment perhaps we should talk about the GOP after Trump.

Trump is 70+ million Americans strong and will still be going strong long after Trump the man exits politics. This is something Dems never understood. Trump simply gave a voice to Americans sick of the Dem's BS and lies.

 

[BluesLegend]

Maybe you aren't picturing Joe Biden at age 83-86? About a year from now. After falling a few more times, and a few hundred more gaffes.
No one will vote for too old Joe Biden. No one wants him as president now.

Joe Biden just called. I think he was upset about your post but he forgot why he called and hung up after stuttering.

 

[kyzr]

The republicans have nothing at all besides wacko DeSantis, who ruined his chances with his war on personal freedoms
The GOP is in steady decline. It started with the failed GW Bush presidency, wars, and economic blow up, and took a turn for the worst with the Jan 6th Insurrection and stealing of highly classified documents

In case you wonder what the GOP can run against Biden with"

Everything Xiden, aka “poopy pants” touches turns to shit
How about showering with his daughter Ashley? How fucked-up is that?
The Brits hold him in CONTEMPT for abandoning AFG
The French pulled their ambassador for abandoning AFG
China loves Biden for abandoning AFG’s mother-lode of rare metals to them!
He pissed off the Canadians by killing the KeystoneXL pipeline, that’s 500,000 bbls a day he killed.
Xiden sold us out by approving the Nord Stream 2 pipeline giving Putin cash to modernize his military and invade Ukraine, and his “war on energy” keeps fuel costs high. That's why Xiden is "Putin's Whore".
Hope he enjoys the $3,500,000 the Moscow Mayor's wife sent Hunter
Hope he enjoys the $1,500,000,000 that China gave Hunter to "invest"
Open borders is a catastrophe. Trump had it SOLVED. Now its infected migrants & fentanyl sent all over
Runaway inflation would get worse if the dems pass their "BBB" bill. That will be Solyndra on steroids, not to mention the $200,000,000 for Nancy’s park in San Francisco.
Xiden is ruining the US energy sector with his stupid EOs, he wants Russia to pump more oil?? WTF?
Xiden is so dumb he can't even do fake press conferences to answer "ice cream" questions.
Xiden is a gaffe machine, his brain is defective, and he has the nuclear football, WTF???
Xiden surrendered AFG leaving Americans, $billions of equipment, and interpreters to be slaughtered
Xiden’s DOJ sent the FBI after parents (aka domestic terrorists) who dare to ask questions at school board meetings.
China just passed the US out with their new hypersonic missile.
Stupid Joe wants to pay MIGRANTS $450,000 for breaking US immigration LAWS??????
After promising we would have more than enough Covid testing kits, Joe LIED and FAILED.
Xiden killed Israel’s EastMed gas pipeline to sell gas to the EU, Putin’s whore strikes again.
Xiden killed the development of ANWR, but he’s begging Putin to pump more oil???
Xiden’s “war on energy” is pushing gas and diesel to unaffordable levels, causing “runaway inflation”.
Xiden is letting RUSSIA negotiate the new IRAN agreement???? WTF!!!!!!
Xiden is giving baby formula to migrants when American babies can’t get formula????
Xiden sold 1m bbls of SPR emergency oil to Sinopec, Hunter’s Chinese oil company, twice,that’s treason.
Xiden is turning the US into a banana republic by misusing the FBI and IRS to harass opponents
Xiden wants 87,000 armed IRS agents willing to KILL!! WTF???
Xiden proposed forgiving $10,000 of student loan debt (unconstitutional)
Xiden stole classified documents, did he sell them to anyone? Is he a traitor for cash?
Xiden let the Chinese spy balloon fly across the US and send back the data, TRAITOR.
Xiden blew-up the Nord Stream pipelines?! WTF? That is an act of war against Russia.
How did Navy dropout Hunter Biden get to a $230,000,000 net worth? Selling access maybe?
Xiden wants the army to make EV tanks weakening military readiness.
I could go on and on, but you see Trump was at least 1,000,000x better as president than stupid Joe

 

[kyzr]

I see. DeSantis will get 82 million votes.

Biden won't get what he got in 2020, when he won the EC by 43,000 votes.

 

[BluesLegend]

Biden won't get what he got in 2020, when he won the EC by 43,000 votes.

I can't wait to see Biden on the campaign trail gaffing the shit out of the Dems.

 

[Meathead]

So with trump's indictment perhaps we should talk about the GOP after Trump.

For the sake of discussion let's assume, for whatever reason, on dec 1, 2023 Trump is no longer running for President. What happens next in the GOP?

This is not about Trump and attempts to discuss him will be reported

Traditionally, in the GOP, Mike Pence would be the most likely successor. But...ewww. Even the GOP doesn't like him.

Desantis
Christie
Abbott
Ernst
Cotten
Cruz
Hawley
Johnson
Langford
Paul
Rubio
The Scotts
Sanders
Kemp
Noem
Lee
Youngkin
...Romney???

And what happens during the primaries? Do the losers claim voter fraud and challenge the results in court? Perhaps delaying the nomination past the general?
Do the losing GOP candidates resort to violence because they feel they've been cheated?

Absent Trump who would win the GOP nomination?
How much actual support would they have from within the GOP base?

I'd like to have a serious discussion so please refrain from Democrats, Trump (except as an endorser), LBGTQ+, Ukraine, and religion.

AB - after Biden is going to come a hell of a lot sooner than AT.

 

[Lastamender]

Biden won't get what he got in 2020, when he won the EC by 43,000 votes.

But when you look at it why would Democrats be worried if he actually got that many votes? He did not get 81 million votes. That number is patently absurd.

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

Maybe you aren't picturing Joe Biden at age 83-86? About a year from now. After falling a few more times, and a few hundred more gaffes.
No one will vote for too old Joe Biden. No one wants him as president now.

Doesn't matter. He can be in Robocop armor being controlled by AI. And the majority of voters will give him another term.

There is NO Republican that stands out and will be able to beat him.

And you may thank none other than Donald John Trump for that.
He's made the entire party into a merry band of his own talking heads.

 

[Dadoalex]

Ron Desantis or Nikki Haley would mop the floor with old "senile" Joe Biden.

But can they win the nomination?

 

[Dadoalex]

The republicans have nothing at all besides wacko DeSantis, who ruined his chances with his war on personal freedoms

The GOP is in steady decline. It started with the failed GW Bush presidency, wars, and economic blow up, and took a turn for the worst with the Jan 6th Insurrection and stealing of highly classified documents

Do you think DeSantis can win the nomination?

 

[Dadoalex]

Trump is 70+ million Americans strong and will still be going strong long after Trump the man exits politics. This is something Dems never understood. Trump simply gave a voice to Americans sick of the Dem's BS and lies.

But who wins the nomination?