Assad is an enemy of Isil, but not the West’s ally

[Roudy]

Discussing the topic. You?

Haven´t you heard about discussions in which examples are used to explain something?

You said the islamonazi's where operating out of the Israeli Golan Heights. Was that you or the other Assad apologist?

They are operating in the Syrian Golan heights with support of the IDF, that shells and strikes Syrian soldiers instead of the terrorists. The UN soldiers that were deployed there said Israel is working with the terrorists, that terrorists cross the border to Israel, etc.
What does Israel gain from supporting terrorism?

Proof? the UN said what? Did you talk with them personally? there are no UN Soldiers in Israel. Maybe you're just pissed off about Israel bombing Hazbullah and killing the Iranian general?

Proof? Proof!
UN Israel interacting with rebels on Syrian border The Times of Israel

rebels aren't ISIS. Duh.

 

[Bleipriester]

Haven´t you heard about discussions in which examples are used to explain something?

You said the islamonazi's where operating out of the Israeli Golan Heights. Was that you or the other Assad apologist?

They are operating in the Syrian Golan heights with support of the IDF, that shells and strikes Syrian soldiers instead of the terrorists. The UN soldiers that were deployed there said Israel is working with the terrorists, that terrorists cross the border to Israel, etc.
What does Israel gain from supporting terrorism?

Proof? the UN said what? Did you talk with them personally? there are no UN Soldiers in Israel. Maybe you're just pissed off about Israel bombing Hazbullah and killing the Iranian general?

Proof? Proof!
UN Israel interacting with rebels on Syrian border The Times of Israel

rebels aren't ISIS. Duh.

And Al-Nusra (Qaeda) are rebels? Huh?

 

[Roudy]

Syria Comment Archives The Assad Regime and Jihadis Collaborators and Allies - Syria Comment

Yes Assad collaborates and sponsors Hezbollah, who are shiite Jihadis and both are puppets of Iran. Hezbollah are a bunch of Islamist terrorist thugs who oppress Lebanese Christians and have established a shariah state in what was once a secular Christian majority Lebanon.

But you guys really need to get your bullshit stories in synch. One of you claims that Assad is this benevolent guy who saves Christians and another claims that he collaborates with Jihadis.

You are a joke.
Where I have said that Assad is protecting minorities?
Haaretz described Assad as the most preferred dictators of "Israel".
This zionazi state has destroyed tens of churches in Palestine.

Why don't you ask your buddy montelatici, who professes Assad to be the great protector of Christians. While of course funding and sponsoring Hezbollah and Islamic terrorist organization that has killed the Christian leader of Lebanon and persecutes Christians.

Can you show us which churches Israel has destroyed? The only reason Israel enjoys such great support among Christians, is because they know what Islamic savages do with Christians and their churches.

 

[Roudy]

You said the islamonazi's where operating out of the Israeli Golan Heights. Was that you or the other Assad apologist?

They are operating in the Syrian Golan heights with support of the IDF, that shells and strikes Syrian soldiers instead of the terrorists. The UN soldiers that were deployed there said Israel is working with the terrorists, that terrorists cross the border to Israel, etc.
What does Israel gain from supporting terrorism?

Proof? the UN said what? Did you talk with them personally? there are no UN Soldiers in Israel. Maybe you're just pissed off about Israel bombing Hazbullah and killing the Iranian general?

Proof? Proof!
UN Israel interacting with rebels on Syrian border The Times of Israel

rebels aren't ISIS. Duh.

And Al-Nusra (Qaeda) are rebels? Huh?

The article doesn't mention "Al Nusra" and the interacting being discussed is MEDICAL TREATMENT.

You guys are pretty pathetic with your outlandish claims. Israel treats wounded rebels in it's hospitals, and now suddenly "Israel is pro ISIS and pro Al Queda". From the article:

"UN observers in the Golan Heights meticulously detailed instances of contact between IDF soldiers and rebels, including Syrians being sent into Israel for medical treatment, and the transfer of items and containers, according to records maintained by the UN disengagement force in the Golan demilitarized zone.

Most of the dispatches report on cross-border incidents, though several also detail numbers of people sent from Syrian fighting into Israel for medical treatment.

“During periods of heavy engagement with Syrian forces, [rebel groups] transferred 89 wounded persons across the ceasefire line to the IDF,” a May 2014 dispatch reads, adding later that “the IDF handed 19 treated and two deceased individuals” back to the insurgents.

Many of the interactions detail Syrian fighters and civilians seeking medical treatment on the Israeli side of the border, including as recently as November when at least “10 wounded persons were transferred by [rebels]” to the IDF.

One case portrays a person wounded in an explosion, who was then taken by insurgents across the ceasefire line and transferred to a civilian ambulance escorted by an IDF vehicle, in September 2013.

A June 2013 memorandum notes that Israel’s “Liaison Officer informed UNDOF that the IDF had provided emergency medical treatment to 20 armed members of the opposition, all of whom had been returned to the Syrian side.”

Israel has accepted Syrians for medical treatment for years, setting up a field hospital next to the DMZ, and transferring more seriously injured patients to other medical facilities in the north of the country.

Since last year, more than 700 wounded Syrians have been treated in Israeli hospitals via the Syria-Israel border crossing.

****** It's takes a special mindset to blame Israel for being compasionate and treating wounded civilians in need emergency medical care.

 

[Sally]

You got the order wrong. There was a Syrian uprising to remove Assad, which was secular. Assad started slaughtering his people using the military, he even dropped chemical weapons. Once the Syrian people realized that Obama and his red line are full of shit, the empty void was filled by Islamic savages who are competing with Assad as to who can kill more innocent people. Had Obama, the Arabs, and the West acted properly and when they needed to, this crisis could have easily been avoided. This is what happens when you have a half Muslim Chamberlain for president of the US and leader of the free world, at a time when we need a Churchill.

The chemical 'attack' was from the rebels. Probably why Britain quickly and somewhat gracefully found an exit out of the red-line coalition. Bottom line is the U.S. can not hope to defeat ISIS, the creature it and Israel created, without coordination with Syria and Iran.

Bullshit we aren't 'Cooperating" with the mass murderer Assad, and we don't need the mullahs of Iran for shit. They should be driven out of power. Iran with a nuke will change the world as we know it

Why is Israel handing out Golan to Al-Nusra and ISIS?

Jroc, apparently Assad's mouthpiece has a problem with Israel helping those in the FSA who were wounded and even helping wounded Syrian people. To him, everyone who comes in contact with Israel is a terrorist, even if it is a six-month old baby whose mother brought him over to the Israelis for urgent care.

IDF medics treating wounded Syrians battle mental toll - Israel News Ynetnews

Israel is supporting terrorists, including the FSA. As propaganda drone, you have no longer a problem with Al-Qaeda. The same terrorist group that attacked the US and destroyed the WTC is now a "rebel group".
Who knows, maybe Al-Qaeda had the same orderer back then as it has today...

UN Israel interacting with rebels on Syrian border The Times of Israel

Whomever doesn't drop to their knees, bends over and kisses Assad's feet is a terrorist according to his admirer. Meanwhile, many think of the FSA as comparable to those other groups who started up in the Arab Spring in the various countries because they wanted a change. No one is denying that there are some who originally were in the FSA and later joined a terrorist group, just like there are those who were in the Syrian Army who left and joined up with the FSA.

Defying a Dictator Meet the Free Syrian Army World Affairs Journal

 

[Sally]

Syria Comment Archives The Assad Regime and Jihadis Collaborators and Allies - Syria Comment

Yes Assad collaborates and sponsors Hezbollah, who are shiite Jihadis and both are puppets of Iran. Hezbollah are a bunch of Islamist terrorist thugs who oppress Lebanese Christians and have established a shariah state in what was once a secular Christian majority Lebanon.

But you guys really need to get your bullshit stories in synch. One of you claims that Assad is this benevolent guy who saves Christians and another claims that he collaborates with Jihadis.

You are a joke.
Where I have said that Assad is protecting minorities?
Haaretz described Assad as the most preferred dictators of "Israel".
This zionazi state has destroyed tens of churches in Palestine.

You really are confused. It has been your own people who have destroyed many, many churches not only in the Middle East but in the Muslim world in general. Maybe you get excited when your friends in the Boko Haram slit the throat of pastors or blow up Christians while they are at prayer in their churches.

 

[Sally]

Syria Comment Archives The Assad Regime and Jihadis Collaborators and Allies - Syria Comment

Yes Assad collaborates and sponsors Hezbollah, who are shiite Jihadis and both are puppets of Iran. Hezbollah are a bunch of Islamist terrorist thugs who oppress Lebanese Christians and have established a shariah state in what was once a secular Christian majority Lebanon.

But you guys really need to get your bullshit stories in synch. One of you claims that Assad is this benevolent guy who saves Christians and another claims that he collaborates with Jihadis.

You are a joke.
Where I have said that Assad is protecting minorities?
Haaretz described Assad as the most preferred dictators of "Israel".
This zionazi state has destroyed tens of churches in Palestine.

Assad is the big protector of Christians and other minorities. That´s one of the reasons he is still in office despite constant waves of western inbred cockroaches crawling into the county and carrying out their murderous acting.

As a matter of curiosity, what in the world are you doing in the West and not back in Syria helping your idol? It is very strange that since Assad needs all the help he can get that you still stay in the West. I would think that such a persnickity fellow like you wouldn't want to live among all these so-called inbreds. Speaking of inbreeding, does anyone have any idea of how many Syrians do marry their own cousins? It happens a lot in the Muslim world so it would be interesting to know how much goes on in Syria.

 

[Bleipriester]

They are operating in the Syrian Golan heights with support of the IDF, that shells and strikes Syrian soldiers instead of the terrorists. The UN soldiers that were deployed there said Israel is working with the terrorists, that terrorists cross the border to Israel, etc.
What does Israel gain from supporting terrorism?

Proof? the UN said what? Did you talk with them personally? there are no UN Soldiers in Israel. Maybe you're just pissed off about Israel bombing Hazbullah and killing the Iranian general?

Proof? Proof!
UN Israel interacting with rebels on Syrian border The Times of Israel

rebels aren't ISIS. Duh.

And Al-Nusra (Qaeda) are rebels? Huh?

The article doesn't mention "Al Nusra" and the interacting being discussed is MEDICAL TREATMENT.

You guys are pretty pathetic with your outlandish claims. Israel treats wounded rebels in it's hospitals, and now suddenly "Israel is pro ISIS and pro Al Queda". From the article:

"UN observers in the Golan Heights meticulously detailed instances of contact between IDF soldiers and rebels, including Syrians being sent into Israel for medical treatment, and the transfer of items and containers, according to records maintained by the UN disengagement force in the Golan demilitarized zone.

Most of the dispatches report on cross-border incidents, though several also detail numbers of people sent from Syrian fighting into Israel for medical treatment.

“During periods of heavy engagement with Syrian forces, [rebel groups] transferred 89 wounded persons across the ceasefire line to the IDF,” a May 2014 dispatch reads, adding later that “the IDF handed 19 treated and two deceased individuals” back to the insurgents.

Many of the interactions detail Syrian fighters and civilians seeking medical treatment on the Israeli side of the border, including as recently as November when at least “10 wounded persons were transferred by [rebels]” to the IDF.

One case portrays a person wounded in an explosion, who was then taken by insurgents across the ceasefire line and transferred to a civilian ambulance escorted by an IDF vehicle, in September 2013.

A June 2013 memorandum notes that Israel’s “Liaison Officer informed UNDOF that the IDF had provided emergency medical treatment to 20 armed members of the opposition, all of whom had been returned to the Syrian side.”

Israel has accepted Syrians for medical treatment for years, setting up a field hospital next to the DMZ, and transferring more seriously injured patients to other medical facilities in the north of the country.

Since last year, more than 700 wounded Syrians have been treated in Israeli hospitals via the Syria-Israel border crossing.

****** It's takes a special mindset to blame Israel for being compasionate and treating wounded civilians in need emergency medical care.

You excluded the fist part of the article but the second denies your claim as well:
"including Syrians being sent into Israel for medical treatment,.."

Lying about the article, you have excluded the part of the article that mentions Al-Nusra:
"With the onset of the Syrian civil war in recent years, peacekeepers have been attacked multiple times by jihadist groups such as the al-Nusra Front, who have taken control of most of the Syrian side of the border.

In September, the United Nations secured the release of 45 UNDOF soldiers, kidnapped in August by the al-Qaeda-linked group, through the payment of a $25-million ransom by Qatar, an Israeli TV report claimed."

 

[Bleipriester]

The chemical 'attack' was from the rebels. Probably why Britain quickly and somewhat gracefully found an exit out of the red-line coalition. Bottom line is the U.S. can not hope to defeat ISIS, the creature it and Israel created, without coordination with Syria and Iran.

Bullshit we aren't 'Cooperating" with the mass murderer Assad, and we don't need the mullahs of Iran for shit. They should be driven out of power. Iran with a nuke will change the world as we know it

Why is Israel handing out Golan to Al-Nusra and ISIS?

Jroc, apparently Assad's mouthpiece has a problem with Israel helping those in the FSA who were wounded and even helping wounded Syrian people. To him, everyone who comes in contact with Israel is a terrorist, even if it is a six-month old baby whose mother brought him over to the Israelis for urgent care.

IDF medics treating wounded Syrians battle mental toll - Israel News Ynetnews

Israel is supporting terrorists, including the FSA. As propaganda drone, you have no longer a problem with Al-Qaeda. The same terrorist group that attacked the US and destroyed the WTC is now a "rebel group".
Who knows, maybe Al-Qaeda had the same orderer back then as it has today...

UN Israel interacting with rebels on Syrian border The Times of Israel

Whomever doesn't drop to their knees, bends over and kisses Assad's feet is a terrorist according to his admirer. Meanwhile, many think of the FSA as comparable to those other groups who started up in the Arab Spring in the various countries because they wanted a change. No one is denying that there are some who originally were in the FSA and later joined a terrorist group, just like there are those who were in the Syrian Army who left and joined up with the FSA.

Defying a Dictator Meet the Free Syrian Army World Affairs Journal

You forgot to mention that the FSA and Al-Nusra are allies. No-one whose intentions are to fight for "freedom" and "democracy" fights in such a terrorist group like FSA. FSA is - and was from the beginning - an Islamist terrorist group with no differences to ISIS but the fact the the West gave it a democratic face - the SNC. But the SNC has no say in the FSA - it is a paper tiger, the "5 Star Hotel Opposition".

 

[Bleipriester]

Syria Comment Archives The Assad Regime and Jihadis Collaborators and Allies - Syria Comment

Yes Assad collaborates and sponsors Hezbollah, who are shiite Jihadis and both are puppets of Iran. Hezbollah are a bunch of Islamist terrorist thugs who oppress Lebanese Christians and have established a shariah state in what was once a secular Christian majority Lebanon.

But you guys really need to get your bullshit stories in synch. One of you claims that Assad is this benevolent guy who saves Christians and another claims that he collaborates with Jihadis.

You are a joke.
Where I have said that Assad is protecting minorities?
Haaretz described Assad as the most preferred dictators of "Israel".
This zionazi state has destroyed tens of churches in Palestine.

Assad is the big protector of Christians and other minorities. That´s one of the reasons he is still in office despite constant waves of western inbred cockroaches crawling into the county and carrying out their murderous acting.

As a matter of curiosity, what in the world are you doing in the West and not back in Syria helping your idol? It is very strange that since Assad needs all the help he can get that you still stay in the West. I would think that such a persnickity fellow like you wouldn't want to live among all these so-called inbreds. Speaking of inbreeding, does anyone have any idea of how many Syrians do marry their own cousins? It happens a lot in the Muslim world so it would be interesting to know how much goes on in Syria.

As German, I do my part that my conscience tells me to do. I am on the right side and you support the terrorists. You even represent the terrorist´s western democratic face that has been unmasked long ago as a mask that hides the true nature of the western inbred cockroaches of which most of them aren´t even Syrian.

 

[montelatici]

Sally and Ruddy are Zionists. They don't care if Christians are massacred, as long as Israel gains position. That's why they support the Islamist terrorists that are trying to overthrow the Syrian government. The Syrian government is the most secular in the Middle East. The only country besides Lebanon (and Iraq under Saddam) that had Christians in powerful positions and with Christians in the armed forces.

 

[Sally]

Sally and Ruddy are Zionists. They don't care if Christians are massacred, as long as Israel gains position. That's why they support the Islamist terrorists that are trying to overthrow the Syrian government. The Syrian government is the most secular in the Middle East. The only country besides Lebanon (and Iraq under Saddam) that had Christians in powerful positions and with Christians in the armed forces.

And Haniya is a good Muslim convert so what else can anyone expect of her? Meanwhile, the unfortunate Christians are being murdered all over in Muslim countries, and Haniya could care less. If Pakistani Christians are murdered, Haniya closes her eyes. If Nigerian Christians are murdered, Haniya also closes her eyes. In fact, if Muslims murder Muslims, these things should be kept quiet in the mind of converts unless the Jews can be blamed for it. So tell us, Haniya, have you kept track of all the Shia and Ahmadiyya being murdered by the Sunnis in Pakistan, or don't these people matter to you?

 

[montelatici]

Who is Haniya? I haven't seen anyone with that user name posting. But I do see you posting your support of terrorists that murder Christians in Syria.
Why do you support these Islamist criminals?

 

[Sally]

Bullshit we aren't 'Cooperating" with the mass murderer Assad, and we don't need the mullahs of Iran for shit. They should be driven out of power. Iran with a nuke will change the world as we know it

Why is Israel handing out Golan to Al-Nusra and ISIS?

Jroc, apparently Assad's mouthpiece has a problem with Israel helping those in the FSA who were wounded and even helping wounded Syrian people. To him, everyone who comes in contact with Israel is a terrorist, even if it is a six-month old baby whose mother brought him over to the Israelis for urgent care.

IDF medics treating wounded Syrians battle mental toll - Israel News Ynetnews

Israel is supporting terrorists, including the FSA. As propaganda drone, you have no longer a problem with Al-Qaeda. The same terrorist group that attacked the US and destroyed the WTC is now a "rebel group".
Who knows, maybe Al-Qaeda had the same orderer back then as it has today...

UN Israel interacting with rebels on Syrian border The Times of Israel

Whomever doesn't drop to their knees, bends over and kisses Assad's feet is a terrorist according to his admirer. Meanwhile, many think of the FSA as comparable to those other groups who started up in the Arab Spring in the various countries because they wanted a change. No one is denying that there are some who originally were in the FSA and later joined a terrorist group, just like there are those who were in the Syrian Army who left and joined up with the FSA.

Defying a Dictator Meet the Free Syrian Army World Affairs Journal

You forgot to mention that the FSA and Al-Nusra are allies. No-one whose intentions are to fight for "freedom" and "democracy" fights in such a terrorist group like FSA. FSA is - and was from the beginning - an Islamist terrorist group with no differences to ISIS but the fact the the West gave it a democratic face - the SNC. But the SNC has no say in the FSA - it is a paper tiger, the "5 Star Hotel Opposition".

Why don't you prove to us that the FSA and Al-Nustra are allies? Is it just because you say so? By the way, can you tell us a little more about this Assad dynasty which was planned? You were very quiet about this interview which actually tells us so much.

Bashar Al Assad Interview Syrian Army Doesn t Use Barrel Bombs The New Republic

 

[Sally]

Who is Haniya? I haven't seen anyone with that user name posting. But I do see you posting your support of terrorists that murder Christians in Syria.
Why do you support these Islamist criminals?

So funny. I, too, saw your Facebook page along with other here before you closed it when "Haniya" was mentioned. Say, what happened to that guy who jumped in under your screen name when I said that the Muslim kids in some Spanish city were throwing away the ham sandwiches of the Catholic kids? Remember he said that his wife comes from Spain and never heard of that, and I had to pull up the article for him. Meanwhile, Haniya, can I give you a RAH, RAH, RAH for being on the forums from morning until night. It like you and your musical chair partner never come up for air. It is truly amazing!!!

 

[montelatici]

"US supplied TOW anti-tank missiles have ended up in the hands of Jabhat Al Nusra, Syria’s branch of Al Qaeda. The US provided the missiles to CIA vetted Syrian rebel faction Harakat Hazm in May. A video posted by Al Nusra shows the weapons being used to take over Syrian military bases, Wadi Deif and Hamidiyeh in Idlib province.

A story that should have been headline news of Obama’s arming of Al Qaeda across all US media, largely went unnoticed. The only evidence of the story in the mainstream media can be found in the International Business Times and the Washington Post. However both articles try to cast doubt on the claims that Al Nusra has TOW missiles, choosing to quote the Syrian Opposition Council spokesman Oubai Shahbandar who downplayed the incident, calling it an “Al Nusra psyop”. The New York Times did not headline the story and instead buried the information in an article headlined “2 Military bases in Syria Fall to Rebels”. However, The New York Times claimed the TOW missiles may have played a central role in Jabhat AL Nusra’s takeover of the bases."

Military Aid to Terrorists US Supplied Al Qaeda Rebels in Syria with TOW Anti-Tank Missiles Global Research

 

[montelatici]

"On Monday, the Daily Star in Lebanon quoted a FSA brigade commander saying that his forces were working with the Islamic State and Jabhat al-Nusra, al-Qaeda’s official Syrian affiliate — both U.S.-designated terrorist organizations — near the Syrian/Lebanon border.

“We are collaborating with the Islamic State and the Nusra Front by attacking the Syrian Army’s gatherings in … Qalamoun,” said Bassel Idriss, the commander of an FSA-aligned rebel brigade.

“We have reached a point where we have to collaborate with anyone against unfairness and injustice,” confirmed Abu Khaled, another FSA commander who lives in Arsal.

“Let’s face it: The Nusra Front is the biggest power present right now in 8216 Vetted Moderate 8217 Free Syrian Army Commander Admits Alliance with ISIS Confirms PJ Media Reporting PJ Tatler

 

[Sally]

"US supplied TOW anti-tank missiles have ended up in the hands of Jabhat Al Nusra, Syria’s branch of Al Qaeda. The US provided the missiles to CIA vetted Syrian rebel faction Harakat Hazm in May. A video posted by Al Nusra shows the weapons being used to take over Syrian military bases, Wadi Deif and Hamidiyeh in Idlib province.

A story that should have been headline news of Obama’s arming of Al Qaeda across all US media, largely went unnoticed. The only evidence of the story in the mainstream media can be found in the International Business Times and the Washington Post. However both articles try to cast doubt on the claims that Al Nusra has TOW missiles, choosing to quote the Syrian Opposition Council spokesman Oubai Shahbandar who downplayed the incident, calling it an “Al Nusra psyop”. The New York Times did not headline the story and instead buried the information in an article headlined “2 Military bases in Syria Fall to Rebels”. However, The New York Times claimed the TOW missiles may have played a central role in Jabhat AL Nusra’s takeover of the bases."

Military Aid to Terrorists US Supplied Al Qaeda Rebels in Syria with TOW Anti-Tank Missiles Global Research

And you know what??? The U.S. media has been very, very, very quiet until ISIS came on the horizon about how barbaric and savage the Muslim can be throughout the Muslim world and how they murder each other in the name of their religion, even when it involves other Muslims. Why has this been kept so quiet all these years? Can you tell us, Haniya?

 

[Sally]

"On Monday, the Daily Star in Lebanon quoted a FSA brigade commander saying that his forces were working with the Islamic State and Jabhat al-Nusra, al-Qaeda’s official Syrian affiliate — both U.S.-designated terrorist organizations — near the Syrian/Lebanon border.

“We are collaborating with the Islamic State and the Nusra Front by attacking the Syrian Army’s gatherings in … Qalamoun,” said Bassel Idriss, the commander of an FSA-aligned rebel brigade.

“We have reached a point where we have to collaborate with anyone against unfairness and injustice,” confirmed Abu Khaled, another FSA commander who lives in Arsal.

“Let’s face it: The Nusra Front is the biggest power present right now in 8216 Vetted Moderate 8217 Free Syrian Army Commander Admits Alliance with ISIS Confirms PJ Media Reporting PJ Tatler

Perhaps you can tell us why there were those in the Syrian Army who defected and joined the FSA. There has to be a reason for this. Meanwhile, I will let you think up a good answer while I cook dinner. Since you and your musical chair partner take turns, this isn't a problem for you.

 

[montelatici]

"Perhaps you can tell us why there were those in the Syrian Army who defected and joined the FSA."

Because they were Sunni Islamists that were against the idea of a secular state. Kind of like all the fundamentalists you support, Zinoists included.