Armed Individuals and rights - Because Facts Matter, People Should Probably See This Before Repeating Narratives They Favor:

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I SEE IT AS BEING TERRIBLY IMPORTANT TO GET THIS OUT THERE (apologies for my presidential caps)

People are understandably stuck on being emotionally pushed into taking sides -- especially with anything to do with Trump Administration. It's lie a team sport thing. Sad but true - facts be damned "Show me my narrative!"


BECAUSE FACTS MATTER, PEOPLE SHOULD PROBABLY SEE THIS BEFORE REPEATING NARRATIVES THEY FAVOR:

Federal agents shot and killed a 37-year-old Minneapolis resident, Alex Jeffrey Pretti, at about 9 a.m. Central time on Saturday morning. A video shared with The New York Times by a witness and her lawyer, as well as other video footage posted on social media, documents the violent scene, where agents appear to fire at least 10 shots in a span of five seconds.

The footage seems to contradict the Department of Homeland Security’s account of the encounter, which the agency said began after an individual armed with a handgun approached the federal agents with the intent to “massacre” them.






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I ask people "What do you see?" Seriously, "what do you see?"

Do you see the shooting as being justified, or not?

Putting aside any narratives...what is there to say about this that would contribute to a meaningful discussion of what is happening in cities where the Trump administration is sending in federal agents, where the cities themselves, and the states are in protest to what many see as government overreach?
 
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I SEE IT AS BEING TERRIBLY IMPORTANT TO GET THIS OUT THERE (apologies for my presidential caps)

People are understandably stuck on being emotionally pushed into taking sides -- especially with anything to do with Trump Administration. It's lie a team sport thing. Sad but true - facts be damned "Show me my narrative!"


BECAUSE FACTS MATTER, PEOPLE SHOULD PROBABLY SEE THIS BEFORE REPEATING NARRATIVES THEY FAVOR:

Federal agents shot and killed a 37-year-old Minneapolis resident, Alex Jeffrey Pretti, at about 9 a.m. Central time on Saturday morning. A video shared with The New York Times by a witness and her lawyer, as well as other video footage posted on social media, documents the violent scene, where agents appear to fire at least 10 shots in a span of five seconds.

The footage seems to contradict the Department of Homeland Security’s account of the encounter, which the agency said began after an individual armed with a handgun approached the federal agents with the intent to “massacre” them.






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I ask people "What do you see?" Seriously, "what do you see?"

Do you see the shooting as being justified, or not?

Putting aside any narratives...what is there to say about this that would contribute to a meaningful discussion of what is happening in cities where the Trump administration is sending in federal agents, where the cities themselves, and the states are in protest to what many see as government overreach?
FACTS are not presented with words like 'appear' or 'seem'. Try again and use a real source. NYT is known for their Sunday crossword puzzle--News, not so much--Not Yet True.
 
FACTS are not presented with words like 'appear' or 'seem'. Try again and use a real source. NYT is known for their Sunday crossword puzzle--News, not so much--Not Yet True.
So you have no refutation of anything posted? You waiting on a prepared narrative spin from the Administration?

Remember, they (the Department of Homeland Security) said in their account of the encounter -- that "an individual armed with a handgun approached the federal agents with the intent to “massacre” them."

Where do you see that?
 
So you have no refutation of anything posted? You waiting on a prepared narrative spin from the Administration?

Remember, they (the Department of Homeland Security) said in their account of the encounter -- that "an individual armed with a handgun approached the federal agents with the intent to “massacre” them."

Where do you see that?
Clearly, you've never been to a war zone. Minneapolis has been turned into a war zone by the incitements of Walz and Frey. If a protestor comes at a law enforcement officer in the commission of his duty and is armed--that protestor isn't there to help LE. FAFO. Try some critical thinking instead of your feelings. Feelings aren't FACTS either. These morons are admittedly OBSTRUCTING LAW ENFORCEMENT.
 
Clearly, you've never been to a war zone. Minneapolis has been turned into a war zone by the incitements of Walz and Frey. If a protestor comes at a law enforcement officer in the commission of his duty and is armed--that protestor isn't there to help LE. FAFO. Try some critical thinking instead of your feelings. Feelings aren't FACTS either. These morons are admittedly OBSTRUCTING LAW ENFORCEMENT.
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OMFG!

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You truly are a bit demented. A war zone?
 
Putting aside any narratives...what is there to say about this that would contribute to a meaningful discussion of what is happening in cities where the Trump administration is sending in federal agents, where the cities themselves, and the states are in protest to what many see as government overreach?

The organizers are sending untrained protesters into life threatening situations.

They're paying the protesters. Which means they're employees that fall into the umbrella of state employment law. Employers are required to provide adequate PPE for their employees. What the organizers are doing is illegal and they need to be shut down immediately.
 
I see murder.
I see what happened as opposed to what the Trump Administration tried at first to dictate to us all...

There exists (available to everybody) video footage that contradicts "the Department of Homeland Security’s account of the encounter, which the agency said began after an individual armed with a handgun approached the federal agents with the intent to “massacre” them."
 
The organizers are sending untrained protesters into life threatening situations.

They're paying the protesters. Which means they're employees that fall into the umbrella of state employment law. Employers are required to provide adequate PPE for their employees. What the organizers are doing is illegal and they need to be shut down immediately.

please go away with your nonsensical posts
 
The facts are in the images.

to ignore is your fallback mode

THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER
There are lots of VIDEOS---not your hand-picked, edited stills that show NOTHING of the incident. Try again. The VIDEOS in their entirety will show the truth during the investigation. Just like they did when you attempted to justify Good's attempted murder of an ICE agent. Keep shooting those videos. The really help with the body cam footage. The best defense ICE has is a democrat with a phone.
 
So you have no refutation of anything posted? You waiting on a prepared narrative spin from the Administration?

Remember, they (the Department of Homeland Security) said in their account of the encounter -- that "an individual armed with a handgun approached the federal agents with the intent to “massacre” them."

Where do you see that?
There are only two questions. Was he a democrat? Was he out there protesting on behalf of criminals?

Yes. Yes. He had it coming.
 
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There are lots of VIDEOS---not your hand-picked, edited stills that show NOTHING of the incident. Try again. The VIDEOS in their entirety will show the truth during the investigation. Just like they did when you attempted to justify Good's attempted murder of an ICE agent. Keep shooting those videos. The really help with the body cam footage. The best defense ICE has is a democrat with a phone.
There are no videos that support the DHS/Trump version of events. None

and Trump weighed in long before any investigation.
 
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OMFG!

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You truly are a bit demented. A war zone?
Yeah--like CHOP/CHAZ for six solid weeks. Portland for 90 days straight. Democrat summer of love 2020 is being rewound in Minneapolis in 2026 and you're not going to like the outcome. Democrat traitorous actions don't work anymore. Try the American way--A LEGAL ELECTION.
 
Yeah--like CHOP/CHAZ for six solid weeks. Portland for 90 days straight. Democrat summer of love 2020 is being rewound in Minneapolis in 2026 and you're not going to like the outcome. Democrat traitorous actions don't work anymore. Try the American way--A LEGAL ELECTION.
Jan 6. Riot. War Zone at the Capitol. Cost FOX News a billion dollars

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