Armed Individuals and rights - Because Facts Matter, People Should Probably See This Before Repeating Narratives They Favor:

[Concerned American]

There are no videos that support the DHS/Trump version of events. None

and Trump weighed in long before any investigation.

LMAO, thanks Karnac--now run along. Your fantasy has run its course.

 

[Concerned American]

Jan 6. Riot. War Zone at the Capitol. Cost FOX News a billion dollars

the end

Sure, a three hour, unarmed insurrection, eh? Reminds me of another 3-hour tour, eh Gilligan?

 

[WEATHER53]

Armed people usually have a right to be. That does not entitle them to getting chesty with law. Being armed puts you in a differing reaction category from the unarmed so be and act responsible

 

[scruffy]

please go away with your nonsensical posts

OSHA is going to shut them down.

 

[Dante]

Armed people usually have a right to be. That does not entitle them to getting chesty with law. Being armed puts you in a differing reaction category from the unarmed so be and act responsible

Your spin is disgusting as it is an apology fro what we all know was the murder of a US Citizen

The man who ICE shot and killed was an upstanding community member. I'd dare suggest far better human being than you and most people close to you : ICU Nurse dedicated to helping damaged vets. and got into confrontation when reacting to a woman being sprayed by ICE. His instincts to do good got him killed

Your instincts: Jump to defend the indefensible while slandering good men.

 

[WEATHER53]

Your spin is disgusting as it is an apology fro what we all know was the murder of a US Citizen

The man who ICE shot and killed was an upstanding community member. I'd dare suggest far better human being than you and most people close to you : ICU Nurse dedicated to helping damaged vets. and got into confrontation when reacting to a woman being sprayed by ICE. His instincts to do good got him killed

Your instincts: Jump to defend the indefensible while slandering good men.

You love to float “what we all know” when there is No Such we all know
You are a failure at life who unites with other failures in their illegal and immoral pursuits. That’s what is disgusting multiple screen name buffoon

 

[Dante]

You love to float “what we all know” when there is No Such we all know
You are a failure at life who unites with other failures in their illegal and immoral pursuits. That’s what is disgusting multiple screen name buffoon

Imitating Trump with "We all know"

waiting on you to attack Trump's use

 

[Dante]

You love to float “what we all know” when there is No Such we all know
You are a failure at life who unites with other failures in their illegal and immoral pursuits. That’s what is disgusting multiple screen name buffoon

Imitating Trump with "We all know"

was waiting on you to attack Trump's use

but your silence has exposed you

thank you'

now
bye bye

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Jan 6. Riot. War Zone at the Capitol. Cost FOX News a billion dollars

the end

You are comparing 90 DAYS with 3 HOURS.

now that right there is funny.

 

[Independent thinker]

I SEE IT AS BEING TERRIBLY IMPORTANT TO GET THIS OUT THERE (apologies for my presidential caps)

People are understandably stuck on being emotionally pushed into taking sides -- especially with anything to do with Trump Administration. It's lie a team sport thing. Sad but true - facts be damned "Show me my narrative!"


BECAUSE FACTS MATTER, PEOPLE SHOULD PROBABLY SEE THIS BEFORE REPEATING NARRATIVES THEY FAVOR:

Federal agents shot and killed a 37-year-old Minneapolis resident, Alex Jeffrey Pretti, at about 9 a.m. Central time on Saturday morning. A video shared with The New York Times by a witness and her lawyer, as well as other video footage posted on social media, documents the violent scene, where agents appear to fire at least 10 shots in a span of five seconds.

The footage seems to contradict the Department of Homeland Security’s account of the encounter, which the agency said began after an individual armed with a handgun approached the federal agents with the intent to “massacre” them.






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I ask people "What do you see?" Seriously, "what do you see?"

Do you see the shooting as being justified, or not?

Putting aside any narratives...what is there to say about this that would contribute to a meaningful discussion of what is happening in cities where the Trump administration is sending in federal agents, where the cities themselves, and the states are in protest to what many see as government overreach?

I see what you're saying. You're saying that only YOUR facts matter.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

I SEE IT AS BEING TERRIBLY IMPORTANT TO GET THIS OUT THERE (apologies for my presidential caps)

People are understandably stuck on being emotionally pushed into taking sides -- especially with anything to do with Trump Administration. It's lie a team sport thing. Sad but true - facts be damned "Show me my narrative!"


BECAUSE FACTS MATTER, PEOPLE SHOULD PROBABLY SEE THIS BEFORE REPEATING NARRATIVES THEY FAVOR:

Federal agents shot and killed a 37-year-old Minneapolis resident, Alex Jeffrey Pretti, at about 9 a.m. Central time on Saturday morning. A video shared with The New York Times by a witness and her lawyer, as well as other video footage posted on social media, documents the violent scene, where agents appear to fire at least 10 shots in a span of five seconds.

The footage seems to contradict the Department of Homeland Security’s account of the encounter, which the agency said began after an individual armed with a handgun approached the federal agents with the intent to “massacre” them.






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I ask people "What do you see?" Seriously, "what do you see?"

Do you see the shooting as being justified, or not?

Putting aside any narratives...what is there to say about this that would contribute to a meaningful discussion of what is happening in cities where the Trump administration is sending in federal agents, where the cities themselves, and the states are in protest to what many see as government overreach?

You’ll get nothing meaningful from Trump Cult members, just the usual deflections and lies from the dishonest right.

 

[Lockback]

Clearly, you've never been to a war zone. Minneapolis has been turned into a war zone by the incitements of Walz and Frey. If a protestor comes at a law enforcement officer in the commission of his duty and is armed--that protestor isn't there to help LE. FAFO. Try some critical thinking instead of your feelings. Feelings aren't FACTS either. These morons are admittedly OBSTRUCTING LAW ENFORCEMENT.

You nailed it.

 

[Lockback]

You’ll get nothing meaningful from Trump Cult members, just the usual deflections and lies from the dishonest right.

You idiots are the cult.
The Cult of Communism.

 

[Dante]

You’ll get nothing meaningful from Trump Cult members, just the usual deflections and lies from the dishonest right.

They pretedn or suffer from the delusion that they love America.

What they actually love is an idea that died long ago and has been resurrected from the grave by populists a-holes

 

[Dante]

I see what you're saying. nope

nope
now go away

 

[Dante]

You idiots are the cult.
The Cult of Communism.

again

 

[Hellbilly]

Nothing to refute. You posted opinion--no facts to refute.

Fact-Renee Good is dead
Fact- An ICE agent murdered her.
Fact-She posed no threat
Fact-Alex Pretti was helping an injured woman when he was murdered by ICE
FACT-He posed no threat
Fact-At a memorial for Alex Pretti, an ICE agent shot part of a woman's hand off.

The truth doesn’t give a **** what you think.

 

[Lockback]

again

Again with the truth.

 

[HikerGuy83]

The footage seems to contradict

Yes, but let's not wait for a full examination of the facts and video by people who know what they are talking about (and that would not be a group you belong to).

 

[HikerGuy83]

Fact-Renee Good is dead

Yes she is.

Fact- An ICE agent murdered her.

Tell me when the trial starts.

Fact-She posed no threat

Fact-She was fleeing in the face of a direct command from ICE. At the encouragement of her still living better half she chose to move her vehicle forward where an ICE agent was standing.
Fact-She's dead. Oh yeah...you already said that.
Fact-

Fact-Alex Pretti was helping an injured woman when he was murdered by ICE

Fact-he had a gun on him and was inserting himself into an active ICE operation.
Fact-he was pretty stupid.

FACT-He posed no threat

FACT-Because that wasn't written on the sweatshirt he was wearing, ICE agents can only go by what they see. And if that includes being assaulted, so be it.

Fact-At a memorial for Alex Pretti, an ICE agent shot part of a woman's hand off.

FACT-So what?

The truth doesn’t give a **** what you think.

Well, since you are nowhere near the truth to ask it, I can't imagine why you are speaking for it.