Aren't these Trump rallies expensive?

[Markle]

You know all those charts show things got better years before Cheeto Jesus even thought about collaborating with Putin to steal the election.

You've proved my point.

They got better under Obama? What are you smoking?

Read yer fellow worshiper's charts.

Tell me what you see.

I see $1.5 trillion dollar deficits during the reign of Obama.

That didn't actually happen.

Who told you that?

Crepitus, do you know that the Deficit is a paper number and the increase in the Debt is an actual number?

What's funny Brain357?

 

[Brain357]

They got better under Obama? What are you smoking?

Read yer fellow worshiper's charts.

Tell me what you see.

I see $1.5 trillion dollar deficits during the reign of Obama.

That didn't actually happen.

Who told you that?

Crepitus, do you know that the Deficit is a paper number and the increase in the Debt is an actual number?

What's funny Brain357?

Your chart clearly shows how much deficits have increased with trump.

 

[Butch_Coolidge]

Well if only a few people supported trump as the left insists it doesn't cost much to rent a VFW hall now does it?


.

I believe much of the money is in the security. It's expensive to move a president all around the country. But you guys stopped caring about fiscal responsibility long ago....

It wasn’t cheap when oboe went to Africa for his bs trip years back.


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I can't imagine it was.

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[LeftofLeft]

Well if only a few people supported trump as the left insists it doesn't cost much to rent a VFW hall now does it?


.

I believe much of the money is in the security. It's expensive to move a president all around the country. But you guys stopped caring about fiscal responsibility long ago....

Oh, please stop your Alinsky tactics. The reality is you people don’t give a flying **** about fiscal responsibility. For example, you people shit yourselves over a proposed $5B wall to control illegal immigration yet ignore that illegals cost US at least 10x that number annually.

Most significantly, your side NEVER wants to discuss spending cuts when it comes to budget and taxes. It’s a 100 percent SPEND policy with you people.

You people should have no problem with the Office of the President spending money.

The reality is you people don’t care about fiscal responsibility. I don’t have a side, politicians are turds. We’d be better off if everyone realized that .

I"m sure most people don't believe you have no side as you're obviously an anti-Trump'r. But let me give you and excerpt from economist Walter E Williams.

"I'm going to run for office. My platform will be no spending. I plan on bringing zero dollars to my state. Now what do you suppose my chances would be at getting elected?"

The truth of the matter is that politicians have no choice but to spend, because this is what is expected of them.

For instance, let's say we're going to cut food stamps in half. The Democrats would be screaming to high heavens about the women, children and elderly that will go without eating. If the Democrats propose cutting our military budget in half, the people on my side would be enraged because that could have a serous consequence to our national security. If Trump proposes cutting welfare down to the bone, the left would be predicting starving children, and an increase in robberies, burglaries, and death. If the Democrats propose making people work until the age of 72 before you could collect SS benefits, the people on the right would be upset about middle-class blue collar workers, where physical labor is nearly impossible even up to the age of 65. And the list goes on and on and on.

Everybody wants less spending, but nobody is willing to sacrifice for it. So is it the fault of politicians, or is the fault of us?

Some of us will vote for responsible politicians. There was a time we didn't constantly have huge deficits. We still had poliiticians.

Now that is funny. Your side’s idea of fiscal responsibility is to never stop spending but take more and more money from earners.

 

[LeftofLeft]

Oh, please stop your Alinsky tactics. The reality is you people don’t give a flying **** about fiscal responsibility. For example, you people shit yourselves over a proposed $5B wall to control illegal immigration yet ignore that illegals cost US at least 10x that number annually.

Most significantly, your side NEVER wants to discuss spending cuts when it comes to budget and taxes. It’s a 100 percent SPEND policy with you people.

You people should have no problem with the Office of the President spending money.

The reality is you people don’t care about fiscal responsibility. I don’t have a side, politicians are turds. We’d be better off if everyone realized that .

I"m sure most people don't believe you have no side as you're obviously an anti-Trump'r. But let me give you and excerpt from economist Walter E Williams.

"I'm going to run for office. My platform will be no spending. I plan on bringing zero dollars to my state. Now what do you suppose my chances would be at getting elected?"

The truth of the matter is that politicians have no choice but to spend, because this is what is expected of them.

For instance, let's say we're going to cut food stamps in half. The Democrats would be screaming to high heavens about the women, children and elderly that will go without eating. If the Democrats propose cutting our military budget in half, the people on my side would be enraged because that could have a serous consequence to our national security. If Trump proposes cutting welfare down to the bone, the left would be predicting starving children, and an increase in robberies, burglaries, and death. If the Democrats propose making people work until the age of 72 before you could collect SS benefits, the people on the right would be upset about middle-class blue collar workers, where physical labor is nearly impossible even up to the age of 65. And the list goes on and on and on.

Everybody wants less spending, but nobody is willing to sacrifice for it. So is it the fault of politicians, or is the fault of us?

Some of us will vote for responsible politicians. There was a time we didn't constantly have huge deficits. We still had poliiticians.

Yes there was. But this is what I call my Ray from Cleveland's raccoon theory.

You see a hungry raccoon digging in your garbage can and feel sorry for the animal. So you go inside the house, and fetch that leftover ham you were going to throw away at the end of the week anyhow. After the animal eats in delight for a few seconds, try to take that ham away and see what happens to you.

The Democrats are well aware of my theory, although they may think of it in a different way, but humans are not that different than animals, where once you give them something, it's rightfully theirs as far as they are concerned. So few if any politicians right or left are willing to get their hand chewed up trying to take it away.

Now Democrats are pushing for Medicare for all, and free college. If they get away with it, those are government handouts nobody will ever be able to take away from the people, regardless how good or bad it works out.

That's the problem.

And trump gave out huge tax cuts we couldn't afford. He also spent huge on military and agreed to anything the dems wanted to spend on. The bar keeps getting lowered, every 2 years one party gets the upper hand on the other because the previous party did a bad job. If one were to actually do a good job they would likely be reelected. I know few people looking for handouts. Even freezing spending would be good at this point.

You keep saying “tax cuts we cannot afford” yet your plan (more taxes) will result in higher unemployment and a diminishing tax base. Why / how do you think we can afford fewer people paying taxes?

 

[bripat9643]

Read yer fellow worshiper's charts.

Tell me what you see.

I see $1.5 trillion dollar deficits during the reign of Obama.

That didn't actually happen.

Who told you that?

Crepitus, do you know that the Deficit is a paper number and the increase in the Debt is an actual number?

What's funny Brain357?

Your chart clearly shows how much deficits have increased with trump.

You mean if you ignore how much they increased under Obama.

 

[SmokeALib]

Seems like Trump is having constant rallies even though the next election is far away. Doesn't he have a job to do? Aren't these using up lots of tax dollars?

Trump campaign to hold rallies in Mississippi, Kentucky

Ah, go cry somewhere else. You whiney-ass libstained leftist traitors crack me up.

 

[Brain357]

I believe much of the money is in the security. It's expensive to move a president all around the country. But you guys stopped caring about fiscal responsibility long ago....

Oh, please stop your Alinsky tactics. The reality is you people don’t give a flying **** about fiscal responsibility. For example, you people shit yourselves over a proposed $5B wall to control illegal immigration yet ignore that illegals cost US at least 10x that number annually.

Most significantly, your side NEVER wants to discuss spending cuts when it comes to budget and taxes. It’s a 100 percent SPEND policy with you people.

You people should have no problem with the Office of the President spending money.

The reality is you people don’t care about fiscal responsibility. I don’t have a side, politicians are turds. We’d be better off if everyone realized that .

I"m sure most people don't believe you have no side as you're obviously an anti-Trump'r. But let me give you and excerpt from economist Walter E Williams.

"I'm going to run for office. My platform will be no spending. I plan on bringing zero dollars to my state. Now what do you suppose my chances would be at getting elected?"

The truth of the matter is that politicians have no choice but to spend, because this is what is expected of them.

For instance, let's say we're going to cut food stamps in half. The Democrats would be screaming to high heavens about the women, children and elderly that will go without eating. If the Democrats propose cutting our military budget in half, the people on my side would be enraged because that could have a serous consequence to our national security. If Trump proposes cutting welfare down to the bone, the left would be predicting starving children, and an increase in robberies, burglaries, and death. If the Democrats propose making people work until the age of 72 before you could collect SS benefits, the people on the right would be upset about middle-class blue collar workers, where physical labor is nearly impossible even up to the age of 65. And the list goes on and on and on.

Everybody wants less spending, but nobody is willing to sacrifice for it. So is it the fault of politicians, or is the fault of us?

Some of us will vote for responsible politicians. There was a time we didn't constantly have huge deficits. We still had poliiticians.

Now that is funny. Your side’s idea of fiscal responsibility is to never stop spending but take more and more money from earners.

I don’t have a side. Neither is responsible.

 

[Brain357]

The reality is you people don’t care about fiscal responsibility. I don’t have a side, politicians are turds. We’d be better off if everyone realized that .

I"m sure most people don't believe you have no side as you're obviously an anti-Trump'r. But let me give you and excerpt from economist Walter E Williams.

"I'm going to run for office. My platform will be no spending. I plan on bringing zero dollars to my state. Now what do you suppose my chances would be at getting elected?"

The truth of the matter is that politicians have no choice but to spend, because this is what is expected of them.

For instance, let's say we're going to cut food stamps in half. The Democrats would be screaming to high heavens about the women, children and elderly that will go without eating. If the Democrats propose cutting our military budget in half, the people on my side would be enraged because that could have a serous consequence to our national security. If Trump proposes cutting welfare down to the bone, the left would be predicting starving children, and an increase in robberies, burglaries, and death. If the Democrats propose making people work until the age of 72 before you could collect SS benefits, the people on the right would be upset about middle-class blue collar workers, where physical labor is nearly impossible even up to the age of 65. And the list goes on and on and on.

Everybody wants less spending, but nobody is willing to sacrifice for it. So is it the fault of politicians, or is the fault of us?

Some of us will vote for responsible politicians. There was a time we didn't constantly have huge deficits. We still had poliiticians.

Yes there was. But this is what I call my Ray from Cleveland's raccoon theory.

You see a hungry raccoon digging in your garbage can and feel sorry for the animal. So you go inside the house, and fetch that leftover ham you were going to throw away at the end of the week anyhow. After the animal eats in delight for a few seconds, try to take that ham away and see what happens to you.

The Democrats are well aware of my theory, although they may think of it in a different way, but humans are not that different than animals, where once you give them something, it's rightfully theirs as far as they are concerned. So few if any politicians right or left are willing to get their hand chewed up trying to take it away.

Now Democrats are pushing for Medicare for all, and free college. If they get away with it, those are government handouts nobody will ever be able to take away from the people, regardless how good or bad it works out.

That's the problem.

And trump gave out huge tax cuts we couldn't afford. He also spent huge on military and agreed to anything the dems wanted to spend on. The bar keeps getting lowered, every 2 years one party gets the upper hand on the other because the previous party did a bad job. If one were to actually do a good job they would likely be reelected. I know few people looking for handouts. Even freezing spending would be good at this point.

You keep saying “tax cuts we cannot afford” yet your plan (more taxes) will result in higher unemployment and a diminishing tax base. Why / how do you think we can afford fewer people paying taxes?

My plan? I didn’t know I had mentioned a plan. I can tell you deficits were smaller before trump, much smaller.

 

[Brain357]

Seems like Trump is having constant rallies even though the next election is far away. Doesn't he have a job to do? Aren't these using up lots of tax dollars?

Trump campaign to hold rallies in Mississippi, Kentucky

Ah, go cry somewhere else. You whiney-ass libstained leftist traitors crack me up.

You are no doubt one of the people who told me how bad obama travel was . Lotta hypocrites out there.

 

[Brain357]

I see $1.5 trillion dollar deficits during the reign of Obama.

That didn't actually happen.

Who told you that?

Crepitus, do you know that the Deficit is a paper number and the increase in the Debt is an actual number?

What's funny Brain357?

Your chart clearly shows how much deficits have increased with trump.

You mean if you ignore how much they increased under Obama.

If you look at the last year of Obama and compare to the trump years.

 

[LeftofLeft]

I"m sure most people don't believe you have no side as you're obviously an anti-Trump'r. But let me give you and excerpt from economist Walter E Williams.

"I'm going to run for office. My platform will be no spending. I plan on bringing zero dollars to my state. Now what do you suppose my chances would be at getting elected?"

The truth of the matter is that politicians have no choice but to spend, because this is what is expected of them.

For instance, let's say we're going to cut food stamps in half. The Democrats would be screaming to high heavens about the women, children and elderly that will go without eating. If the Democrats propose cutting our military budget in half, the people on my side would be enraged because that could have a serous consequence to our national security. If Trump proposes cutting welfare down to the bone, the left would be predicting starving children, and an increase in robberies, burglaries, and death. If the Democrats propose making people work until the age of 72 before you could collect SS benefits, the people on the right would be upset about middle-class blue collar workers, where physical labor is nearly impossible even up to the age of 65. And the list goes on and on and on.

Everybody wants less spending, but nobody is willing to sacrifice for it. So is it the fault of politicians, or is the fault of us?

Some of us will vote for responsible politicians. There was a time we didn't constantly have huge deficits. We still had poliiticians.

Yes there was. But this is what I call my Ray from Cleveland's raccoon theory.

You see a hungry raccoon digging in your garbage can and feel sorry for the animal. So you go inside the house, and fetch that leftover ham you were going to throw away at the end of the week anyhow. After the animal eats in delight for a few seconds, try to take that ham away and see what happens to you.

The Democrats are well aware of my theory, although they may think of it in a different way, but humans are not that different than animals, where once you give them something, it's rightfully theirs as far as they are concerned. So few if any politicians right or left are willing to get their hand chewed up trying to take it away.

Now Democrats are pushing for Medicare for all, and free college. If they get away with it, those are government handouts nobody will ever be able to take away from the people, regardless how good or bad it works out.

That's the problem.

And trump gave out huge tax cuts we couldn't afford. He also spent huge on military and agreed to anything the dems wanted to spend on. The bar keeps getting lowered, every 2 years one party gets the upper hand on the other because the previous party did a bad job. If one were to actually do a good job they would likely be reelected. I know few people looking for handouts. Even freezing spending would be good at this point.

You keep saying “tax cuts we cannot afford” yet your plan (more taxes) will result in higher unemployment and a diminishing tax base. Why / how do you think we can afford fewer people paying taxes?

My plan? I didn’t know I had mentioned a plan. I can tell you deficits were smaller before trump, much smaller.

Here is my plan..... Cut Spending.

 

[RealDave]

You know all those charts show things got better years before Cheeto Jesus even thought about collaborating with Putin to steal the election.

You've proved my point.

They got better under Obama? What are you smoking?

Yer fellowing tRumpling posted the charts.

Read them and tell me when things turned around.

You mean the slowest recovery since the Great Depression?

The worst recessions typically have the worse recoveries.

That's exactly the opposite of the truth. The worst recessions happen when Democrats are in office.

The Bush Recession started 4th quarter of 2007.

 

[Brain357]

Some of us will vote for responsible politicians. There was a time we didn't constantly have huge deficits. We still had poliiticians.

Yes there was. But this is what I call my Ray from Cleveland's raccoon theory.

You see a hungry raccoon digging in your garbage can and feel sorry for the animal. So you go inside the house, and fetch that leftover ham you were going to throw away at the end of the week anyhow. After the animal eats in delight for a few seconds, try to take that ham away and see what happens to you.

The Democrats are well aware of my theory, although they may think of it in a different way, but humans are not that different than animals, where once you give them something, it's rightfully theirs as far as they are concerned. So few if any politicians right or left are willing to get their hand chewed up trying to take it away.

Now Democrats are pushing for Medicare for all, and free college. If they get away with it, those are government handouts nobody will ever be able to take away from the people, regardless how good or bad it works out.

That's the problem.

And trump gave out huge tax cuts we couldn't afford. He also spent huge on military and agreed to anything the dems wanted to spend on. The bar keeps getting lowered, every 2 years one party gets the upper hand on the other because the previous party did a bad job. If one were to actually do a good job they would likely be reelected. I know few people looking for handouts. Even freezing spending would be good at this point.

You keep saying “tax cuts we cannot afford” yet your plan (more taxes) will result in higher unemployment and a diminishing tax base. Why / how do you think we can afford fewer people paying taxes?

My plan? I didn’t know I had mentioned a plan. I can tell you deficits were smaller before trump, much smaller.

Here is my plan..... Cut Spending.

I'd be happy with a freeze in increases at this point. But an across the board cut would be fine with me.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

I"m sure most people don't believe you have no side as you're obviously an anti-Trump'r. But let me give you and excerpt from economist Walter E Williams.

"I'm going to run for office. My platform will be no spending. I plan on bringing zero dollars to my state. Now what do you suppose my chances would be at getting elected?"

The truth of the matter is that politicians have no choice but to spend, because this is what is expected of them.

For instance, let's say we're going to cut food stamps in half. The Democrats would be screaming to high heavens about the women, children and elderly that will go without eating. If the Democrats propose cutting our military budget in half, the people on my side would be enraged because that could have a serous consequence to our national security. If Trump proposes cutting welfare down to the bone, the left would be predicting starving children, and an increase in robberies, burglaries, and death. If the Democrats propose making people work until the age of 72 before you could collect SS benefits, the people on the right would be upset about middle-class blue collar workers, where physical labor is nearly impossible even up to the age of 65. And the list goes on and on and on.

Everybody wants less spending, but nobody is willing to sacrifice for it. So is it the fault of politicians, or is the fault of us?

Some of us will vote for responsible politicians. There was a time we didn't constantly have huge deficits. We still had poliiticians.

Yes there was. But this is what I call my Ray from Cleveland's raccoon theory.

You see a hungry raccoon digging in your garbage can and feel sorry for the animal. So you go inside the house, and fetch that leftover ham you were going to throw away at the end of the week anyhow. After the animal eats in delight for a few seconds, try to take that ham away and see what happens to you.

The Democrats are well aware of my theory, although they may think of it in a different way, but humans are not that different than animals, where once you give them something, it's rightfully theirs as far as they are concerned. So few if any politicians right or left are willing to get their hand chewed up trying to take it away.

Now Democrats are pushing for Medicare for all, and free college. If they get away with it, those are government handouts nobody will ever be able to take away from the people, regardless how good or bad it works out.

That's the problem.

If trump had done what he said and actually worked toward a balanced budget, would you still vote for him?

I would, but again, it depends on what he had to cut. Of course that would never happen. If Trump cut all the Democrat goodies out of the budget, the Democrats would shutdown the government, just like they did with Trump's demand of a wall. And who does the media always blame when a government shutdown happens?

I think the people would support a freeze on increases. Dems can't do anything if the majority agree with the move. They are politicians after all, they won't fight something that is popular. But instead deficit Donald has actually increased the Obama deficits.

First of all, where do you people get this idea that the President spends the money? The President can make out the budget, but it has to have the blessings of the US Congress. If an opposition Congress is in charge, there are usually a lot of taking out and putting in to that budget.

If you look at the deficit decreases during the DumBama era, it was after Republicans took over the House. Everything they fought about was over money. It led to the shutting down of government. It lead to us losing our three star credit rating for the first time in our history. It led to the sequester.

So don't go blaming the President for everything when Congress has the US checkbook.

Do tell: what would people support getting cut to stop deficit growth? Because after all, the only way to stop deficit growth is to take goodies from people. Now tell me what people would do without, or with less of and still support the President or Congress.

 

[RealDave]

I believe much of the money is in the security. It's expensive to move a president all around the country. But you guys stopped caring about fiscal responsibility long ago....

Oh, please stop your Alinsky tactics. The reality is you people don’t give a flying **** about fiscal responsibility. For example, you people shit yourselves over a proposed $5B wall to control illegal immigration yet ignore that illegals cost US at least 10x that number annually.

Most significantly, your side NEVER wants to discuss spending cuts when it comes to budget and taxes. It’s a 100 percent SPEND policy with you people.

You people should have no problem with the Office of the President spending money.

The reality is you people don’t care about fiscal responsibility. I don’t have a side, politicians are turds. We’d be better off if everyone realized that .

I"m sure most people don't believe you have no side as you're obviously an anti-Trump'r. But let me give you and excerpt from economist Walter E Williams.

"I'm going to run for office. My platform will be no spending. I plan on bringing zero dollars to my state. Now what do you suppose my chances would be at getting elected?"

The truth of the matter is that politicians have no choice but to spend, because this is what is expected of them.

For instance, let's say we're going to cut food stamps in half. The Democrats would be screaming to high heavens about the women, children and elderly that will go without eating. If the Democrats propose cutting our military budget in half, the people on my side would be enraged because that could have a serous consequence to our national security. If Trump proposes cutting welfare down to the bone, the left would be predicting starving children, and an increase in robberies, burglaries, and death. If the Democrats propose making people work until the age of 72 before you could collect SS benefits, the people on the right would be upset about middle-class blue collar workers, where physical labor is nearly impossible even up to the age of 65. And the list goes on and on and on.

Everybody wants less spending, but nobody is willing to sacrifice for it. So is it the fault of politicians, or is the fault of us?

Some of us will vote for responsible politicians. There was a time we didn't constantly have huge deficits. We still had poliiticians.

Yes there was. But this is what I call my Ray from Cleveland's raccoon theory.

You see a hungry raccoon digging in your garbage can and feel sorry for the animal. So you go inside the house, and fetch that leftover ham you were going to throw away at the end of the week anyhow. After the animal eats in delight for a few seconds, try to take that ham away and see what happens to you.

The Democrats are well aware of my theory, although they may think of it in a different way, but humans are not that different than animals, where once you give them something, it's rightfully theirs as far as they are concerned. So few if any politicians right or left are willing to get their hand chewed up trying to take it away.

Now Democrats are pushing for Medicare for all, and free college. If they get away with it, those are government handouts nobody will ever be able to take away from the people, regardless how good or bad it works out.

That's the problem.

Medicare for all would be funded. That is the way Democrats do it. Instead of insurance premiums, copays, etc you would pay a tax.

The last healthcare thing that Republicans did was yo expand Medicare with the drug benefit. They never funded it & it is a yearly contributor to the deficits.

You assfucks need to do something besides lie. Lying only works with other assfucks.

 

[Brain357]

Some of us will vote for responsible politicians. There was a time we didn't constantly have huge deficits. We still had poliiticians.

Yes there was. But this is what I call my Ray from Cleveland's raccoon theory.

You see a hungry raccoon digging in your garbage can and feel sorry for the animal. So you go inside the house, and fetch that leftover ham you were going to throw away at the end of the week anyhow. After the animal eats in delight for a few seconds, try to take that ham away and see what happens to you.

The Democrats are well aware of my theory, although they may think of it in a different way, but humans are not that different than animals, where once you give them something, it's rightfully theirs as far as they are concerned. So few if any politicians right or left are willing to get their hand chewed up trying to take it away.

Now Democrats are pushing for Medicare for all, and free college. If they get away with it, those are government handouts nobody will ever be able to take away from the people, regardless how good or bad it works out.

That's the problem.

If trump had done what he said and actually worked toward a balanced budget, would you still vote for him?

I would, but again, it depends on what he had to cut. Of course that would never happen. If Trump cut all the Democrat goodies out of the budget, the Democrats would shutdown the government, just like they did with Trump's demand of a wall. And who does the media always blame when a government shutdown happens?

I think the people would support a freeze on increases. Dems can't do anything if the majority agree with the move. They are politicians after all, they won't fight something that is popular. But instead deficit Donald has actually increased the Obama deficits.

First of all, where do you people get this idea that the President spends the money? The President can make out the budget, but it has to have the blessings of the US Congress. If an opposition Congress is in charge, there are usually a lot of taking out and putting in to that budget.

If you look at the deficit decreases during the DumBama era, it was after Republicans took over the House. Everything they fought about was over money. It led to the shutting down of government. It lead to us losing our three star credit rating for the first time in our history. It led to the sequester.

So don't go blaming the President for everything when Congress has the US checkbook.

Do tell: what would people support getting cut to stop deficit growth? Because after all, the only way to stop deficit growth is to take goodies from people. Now tell me what people would do without, or with less of and still support the President or Congress.

Trump owns the republicans and they had full control for 2 years. Deficits skyrocketed.

 

[MaryL]

Seems like Trump is having constant rallies even though the next election is far away. Doesn't he have a job to do? Aren't these using up lots of tax dollars?

Trump campaign to hold rallies in Mississippi, Kentucky

Well speaking of jobs to do, Um yeah. Same could be said for the constant investigations and call for impeachment of Trump by some democrats. Instead of tax paid wild goose chases, how about they just legislate and do their jobs?

 

[Brain357]

Seems like Trump is having constant rallies even though the next election is far away. Doesn't he have a job to do? Aren't these using up lots of tax dollars?

Trump campaign to hold rallies in Mississippi, Kentucky

Well speaking of jobs to do, Um yeah. Same could be said for the constant investigations and call for impeachment of Trump by some democrats. Instead of tax paid wild goose chases, how about they just legislate and do their jobs?

They certainly seem to be overdoing it.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Oh, please stop your Alinsky tactics. The reality is you people don’t give a flying **** about fiscal responsibility. For example, you people shit yourselves over a proposed $5B wall to control illegal immigration yet ignore that illegals cost US at least 10x that number annually.

Most significantly, your side NEVER wants to discuss spending cuts when it comes to budget and taxes. It’s a 100 percent SPEND policy with you people.

You people should have no problem with the Office of the President spending money.

The reality is you people don’t care about fiscal responsibility. I don’t have a side, politicians are turds. We’d be better off if everyone realized that .

I"m sure most people don't believe you have no side as you're obviously an anti-Trump'r. But let me give you and excerpt from economist Walter E Williams.

"I'm going to run for office. My platform will be no spending. I plan on bringing zero dollars to my state. Now what do you suppose my chances would be at getting elected?"

The truth of the matter is that politicians have no choice but to spend, because this is what is expected of them.

For instance, let's say we're going to cut food stamps in half. The Democrats would be screaming to high heavens about the women, children and elderly that will go without eating. If the Democrats propose cutting our military budget in half, the people on my side would be enraged because that could have a serous consequence to our national security. If Trump proposes cutting welfare down to the bone, the left would be predicting starving children, and an increase in robberies, burglaries, and death. If the Democrats propose making people work until the age of 72 before you could collect SS benefits, the people on the right would be upset about middle-class blue collar workers, where physical labor is nearly impossible even up to the age of 65. And the list goes on and on and on.

Everybody wants less spending, but nobody is willing to sacrifice for it. So is it the fault of politicians, or is the fault of us?

Some of us will vote for responsible politicians. There was a time we didn't constantly have huge deficits. We still had poliiticians.

Yes there was. But this is what I call my Ray from Cleveland's raccoon theory.

You see a hungry raccoon digging in your garbage can and feel sorry for the animal. So you go inside the house, and fetch that leftover ham you were going to throw away at the end of the week anyhow. After the animal eats in delight for a few seconds, try to take that ham away and see what happens to you.

The Democrats are well aware of my theory, although they may think of it in a different way, but humans are not that different than animals, where once you give them something, it's rightfully theirs as far as they are concerned. So few if any politicians right or left are willing to get their hand chewed up trying to take it away.

Now Democrats are pushing for Medicare for all, and free college. If they get away with it, those are government handouts nobody will ever be able to take away from the people, regardless how good or bad it works out.

That's the problem.

Medicare for all would be funded. That is the way Democrats do it. Instead of insurance premiums, copays, etc you would pay a tax.

The last healthcare thing that Republicans did was yo expand Medicare with the drug benefit. They never funded it & it is a yearly contributor to the deficits.

You assfucks need to do something besides lie. Lying only works with other assfucks.

Who is lying and what are we lying about?

What you stupid people don't realize is that the only way government sources succeed is because of private insurance. Without private insurance, the government would have to pay the entire bill for their patients. That was never figured into their genius plan.

The way things are now and have been for many years, is that Medicare and Medicaid only pay about 2/3 of the bill for their patients. Then doctors and facilities increase their prices so that private pay, and private insurance are there to make up those losses. This is why when you see medical facilities shut down, it's usually in lower income areas where all they have is mostly government patients. There is nowhere for them to recoup the government losses.