Are you ashamed of your heritage?

[braalian]

Interesting to me that the OP starts this thread that is obviously intentionally meant to be inflammatory…. but then doesn’t have the balls to actually stick around and defend his position….. kinda *****-ish

 

[TNHarley]

Not tough enough, obviously

Yeah doesnt help when the president raises their tax rates by 40 percent to feed their war machine and take away theirs. Or how he was paying people with tax payer money to join their army. Or how he took all of the souths criminals and offered them freedom to fight.
Yeah, money and troop count play a vital role in war.
If he wasnt a tyrant they would have lost. Fast. The south had the money and the troops. I think it was around a 4 to 1 ratio. By the ending, the north had it 2 to 1.

 

[TruthSeeker112125]

"Oliver Anthony - Rich Men North Of Richmond",...... Should've been "Politicians in Washington D.C.

 

[rightwinger]

Confederate Vice President Alexander Stephen’s explaining why the Confederacy was formed.


Our new government is founded upon exactly the opposite idea; its foundations are laid, its corner-stone rests, upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery subordination to the superior race is his natural and normal condition. This, our new government, is the first, in the history of the world, based upon this great physical, philosophical, and moral truth

 

[BackAgain]

I am neither ashamed nor proud of my genealogical heritage. However, I am grateful to be a citizen of the USA.

I take pride in America as a whole. But even so, I recognize that what she achieved wasn’t my doing. I can hardly take credit for it.

Similarly, America has historically also done some wrong. Obviously. I mean, slavery is surely a massive blot on her record and it isn’t alone. Yet, I feel no shame for that either. I wasn’t there at the time.

My family heritage, in prior generations, is mostly Canadian. So, I don’t take too much pride in my heritage.

 

[TNHarley]

And lets not forget secession wasnt even illegal.

 

[TruthSeeker112125]

Interesting to me that the OP starts this thread that is obviously intentionally meant to be inflammatory…. but then doesn’t have the balls to actually stick around and defend his position….. kinda *****-ish

Well,.... Unlike "Key Board Warriors", that sit on a bed pan, & have their subsistence brought to them,..... Some People actually get up, & Piss in the bathroom, have jobs, etc.

And me, as an example,... I gotta get off her pretty soon, cuz "The Real World" has things that must be attended to.

Unlike those that cast dispersions toward another, for not playing th' game in their Unrealistic World.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

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I've never been ashamed of my heritage -- mostly European -- until I learned that some of the indians in my state have been connecting with the drug cartels and allowing them to use reservation land for their drug manufacturing.

Since I've never had a DNA test to confirm the possibility that I have indian heritage, I am no longer at all interested in hearing about it, after hearing what my "tribe" has been involved in.

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[longly]

It was about freedom, slavery being one of the big issues.

By definition the difference between a confederation and a federation is that the membership of the member states in a confederation is voluntary, while the membership in a federation is not.

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Sorry, meathead, but I believe I have to disagree with you; Both are voluntary unions. A difference between a confederation and a federation is in representation. In a confederation, the national government (or central government) acts as a representative of the states, while in a federation the central government acts directly for the people of the nation as a whole and for the states. It goes deeper than that, but I'll leave it at that.

 

[TruthSeeker112125]

I take pride in America as a whole. But even so, I recognize that what she achieved wasn’t my doing. I can hardly take credit for it.

Similarly, America has historically also done some wrong. Obviously. I mean, slavery is surely a massive blot on her record and it isn’t alone. Yet, I feel no shame for that either. I wasn’t there at the time.

My family heritage, in prior generations, is mostly Canadian. So, I don’t take too much pride in my heritage.

I've known several very fine "Canucks", in My Lifetime, & Welcome to America!

 

[braalian]

Well,.... Unlike "Key Board Warriors", that sit on a bed pan, & have their subsistence brought to them,..... Some People actually get up, & Piss in the bathroom, have jobs, etc.

And me, as an example,... I gotta get off her pretty soon, cuz "The Real World" has things that must be attended to.

Unlike those that cast dispersions toward another, for not playing th' game in their Unrealistic World.

He had time to start the thread, he has time to respond and defend his claims

Especially claims as retarded as his that were obviously meant to cause a stir

 

[BackAgain]

And lets not forget secession wasnt even illegal.

Firing upon Fort Sumter was.

 

[Unkotare]

Yes. Lincoln didnt [sic] care for blacks. ...

He considered Fredrick Douglass a friend.

 

[Unkotare]

And lets [sic] not forget secession wasnt [sic] even illegal.

Turns out it was.

 

[BackAgain]

I've known several very fine "Canucks", in My Lifetime, & Welcome to America!

Me too. My dad and all four of my grand parents. Good folk.

Nowadays it’s amusing to me to dump on our pals up in Canuckistan. They used to have a rep for being a very polite people. But those days are long gone.

They are still pretty good people, by and large.

 

[TruthSeeker112125]

Confederate Vice President Alexander Stephen’s explaining why the Confederacy was formed.


Our new government is founded upon exactly the opposite idea; its foundations are laid, its corner-stone rests, upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery subordination to the superior race is his natural and normal condition. This, our new government, is the first, in the history of the world, based upon this great physical, philosophical, and moral truth

Right,... Have U got a link/Ref. for that?

 

[WelfareQueen]

Those who fought for the Confederacy fought for a society that was 40 percent slave and was formed to ensure slavery existed forever

Not something to be proud of

Half a million slaves were in the North at the start of the Civil War. The Emancipation Proclamation 'freed" slaves in the South but kept them enslaved in the North.

So much for moral superiority.

 

[Unkotare]

Turns out it was.

Texas v. White, 74 U.S. 700 (1868)

Texas v. White: States do not have the right to unilaterally secede from the United States, so the Confederate states during the Civil War always remained part of the nation.

supreme.justia.com

 

[braalian]

If secession had been legal, the Confederate states would have pursued the legal process for doing so

There was no legal mechanism for a state to do so, and the constitution was silent on the subject

That’s why the south immediately turned to violence and war, because they knew there was no legal, constitutional procedure for secession

And, after the war, the supreme court addressed the issue directly and confirmed that the union is indissoluble

 

[BackAgain]

Half a million slaves were in the North at the start of the Civil War. The Emancipation Proclamation 'freed" slaves in the South but kept them enslaved in the North.

So much for moral superiority.

If some northern slaveholder, let’s call him Richard, had to advise his slave, let’s call the slave “George,” that the government had ordered that George was now a free man, Richard and his lot would be confronted with the new costs of actually paying for services from George.

Today’s modern Democratics would whine about “affordability.” Poor Richard.