Are the wealthy that seek tax havens America's true moochers?

[AntiParty]

Apparently they think the government should pay for all the services it offers them. Highways be damned!

I think it's safe to say. The wealthy should be taxed the most not because it is what's fair, but because it's what's the most realistic. That is where the main source of our government funding comes from (regardless of whether or not the president in charge is over spending). Even if you don't agree with that logic, you should at least agree the greed that keeps wealthy people from paying taxes is flat out wrong.

The rich and their followers don't realize Large Corporations pay the least amount of taxation. Their followers are generally poor...

Our tax loophole system is why the Fair Tax should be obsolete, but at the same time, it allows Corporate tax evasion.

Let me put this in a funny ironical sense.

Corporations today are like a teen from an oppressed group trying to seek an advantage and manipulate what the voters said is a good reason for support................

 

[AntiParty]

I guarantee you very few people here have researched the tax rate of America's top Corporations and compared it with their own. Otherwise this thread would have died at post #2 with a "well duh"

 

[The Rabbi]

LOL...well do the employees do ANYTHING without the platform? Duh?

Which takes nothing away from my provable claim that employees make all the money for the company.

By the same argument capital makes all the money. Or machinery. Or real estate.
You're not very good at this, are you?

 

[The Rabbi]

What's stopping people from being rich? It isnt true anyway. Anyone an incorporate and start taking deductions others cannot. Another fail from the faux poseur!

What's stopping most from being rich is education. Why do you think Republicans are against public education?, besides filling the coffers of private schools.

Check the number of millionaires who are college drop outs and get back to me.
Poseur.

 

[OKTexas]

all the money for said investment.
Obviously not only do you not know business but you seem to have a reading comprehension problem as well. Show me the quote where I claimed to be "this whiz kid financier". I started a couple of businesses with my own money, I took all the risk and without my willingness to do so the folks I hired wouldn't of had the opportunity to make money for themselves. I did all the sales and without sales there would be no need for employees because there would be no customers, so by your logic the salesmen make all the companies money, Right?

Why would you create an investment and work it yourself?

Why would you start a business with your own money? Couldn't sell the idea to anyone? How's the business goin' for ya now? Did ya make a million bucks? (which is the point)

You really don't have a clue how most small business are started do you, even Bill Gates started with an idea, a friend and family money, which wasn't much. He was the exception to the rule and made a butt load where the vast majority make enough for the owner to earn a comfortable living and make small investments for their future, I'm retired now and have a larger income than anytime during my working life. Am I rich, no, but I live comfortably on my own terms, isn't that what life's supposed to be about? I know people with a lot more money than I have and I wouldn't trade places with them on a bet.

 

[whitehall]

First of all the erroneous assumption is that all money belongs to the federal government and if smart people legally avoid having their money confiscated they are morally corrupt. Isn't there enough real crime out there for liberals to worry about instead of punishing the achievers? If you stole every dime from the rich it wouldn't make any difference. Didn't the Russian Revolution teach people anything?

 

[martybegan]

Apparently they think the government should pay for all the services it offers them. Highways be damned!

I think it's safe to say. The wealthy should be taxed the most not because it is what's fair, but because it's what's the most realistic. That is where the main source of our government funding comes from (regardless of whether or not the president in charge is over spending). Even if you don't agree with that logic, you should at least agree the greed that keeps wealthy people from paying taxes is flat out wrong.

Why are you being a whiny little bitch and calling people who follow the tax law greedy? I bet you take all the deductions allowed.

The revenue collected from the rich is important. It funds most of our government. I mean shit, the top 1% own 40% of the nation's wealth. Why shouldn't they pay the most?

They do, they pay about 60% of the taxes, maybe we should drop that to 40%. Wouldn't that be fair?

60% really isn't enough but it's close. Of course it depends on how many people we are talking about.

Well ain't we a greedy little fuck.

 

[Oldstyle]

Wow you obviously know NOTHING about creating businesses! Your claims to be this whiz kid financier are laughable quite frankly. I doubt you could open and run a lemonade stand let alone a billion dollar a year business!

Internet blowhards like you can't help yourselves...you have to keep making your bullshit claims bigger and bigger until suddenly you're a combination of Bill Gates, Donald Trump and Mark Cuban!

Can you say LOSER!!!!!!!!!!!

And yet you cannot refute any of my postings. Who's the LOSER?

That would be you.

People who brag about how accomplished they are on the internet are the epitome of the word loser. You make a horses ass of yourself when you claim to be running a billion dollar a year business when it's obvious from your posts that you don't know the first thing about running a business let alone one that size.

 

[Oldstyle]

Obviously you have never run a business, equipment makes money employees don't put their money at risk to buy it, raw materials mark ups make money employees don't put their money at risk to buy them, buildings make money once again employees don't risk their money on them. Employees come in at the end, they are trained on how to use the equipment, they are taught how to handle the raw materials and how to produce a finished product, whether it be a hamburger or the space shuttle and all this is done in the comfy environment of the building. BTW the employees are paid while they do all this before the first dollar is earned by the company. So don;t give me this crap that employees make all the money for the company, without all the risk taken by the company from the start there would be no employees.

So an employer makes an investment, and employees make all the money for said investment.

If you create a business correctly, there is no risk.

FYI: Early on, I created one business, purchased one, and sold both making millions. I've Angel Invested 10 businesses which are all doing wonderfully. Currently, the company I Angel Invested I purchased, and if all goes correctly (which it will) will be a billion-dollar/yr business by 2020.

Wow you obviously know NOTHING about creating businesses! Your claims to be this whiz kid financier are laughable quite frankly. I doubt you could open and run a lemonade stand let alone a billion dollar a year business!

Internet blowhards like you can't help yourselves...you have to keep making your bullshit claims bigger and bigger until suddenly you're a combination of Bill Gates, Donald Trump and Mark Cuban!

Can you say LOSER!!!!!!!!!!!

Obviously not only do you not know business but you seem to have a reading comprehension problem as well. Show me the quote where I claimed to be "this whiz kid financier". I started a couple of businesses with my own money, I took all the risk and without my willingness to do so the folks I hired wouldn't of had the opportunity to make money for themselves. I did all the sales and without sales there would be no need for employees because there would be no customers, so by your logic the salesmen make all the companies money, Right?

Ah, OK? That post was directed at 1% not you!

 

[Oldstyle]

First of all the erroneous assumption is that all money belongs to the federal government and if smart people legally avoid having their money confiscated they are morally corrupt. Isn't there enough real crime out there for liberals to worry about instead of punishing the achievers? If you stole every dime from the rich it wouldn't make any difference. Didn't the Russian Revolution teach people anything?

The ironic thing about the "message" that liberals push...how if only we could get the rich to pay their fair share that we could pay for all these entitlements they propose...is that if you took 100% of the wealthy's income it STILL wouldn't come close to doing so!

 

[OKTexas]

all the money for said investment.
Obviously not only do you not know business but you seem to have a reading comprehension problem as well. Show me the quote where I claimed to be "this whiz kid financier". I started a couple of businesses with my own money, I took all the risk and without my willingness to do so the folks I hired wouldn't of had the opportunity to make money for themselves. I did all the sales and without sales there would be no need for employees because there would be no customers, so by your logic the salesmen make all the companies money, Right?

Why would you create an investment and work it yourself?

Why would you start a business with your own money? Couldn't sell the idea to anyone? How's the business goin' for ya now? Did ya make a million bucks? (which is the point)

You really don't have a clue how most small business are started do you, even Bill Gates started with an idea, a friend and family money, which wasn't much. He was the exception to the rule and made a butt load where the vast majority make enough for the owner to earn a comfortable living and make small investments for their future, I'm retired now and have a larger income than anytime during my working life. Am I rich, no, but I live comfortably on my own terms, isn't that what life's supposed to be about? I know people with a lot more money than I have and I wouldn't trade places with them on a bet.

Obviously you have never run a business, equipment makes money employees don't put their money at risk to buy it, raw materials mark ups make money employees don't put their money at risk to buy them, buildings make money once again employees don't risk their money on them. Employees come in at the end, they are trained on how to use the equipment, they are taught how to handle the raw materials and how to produce a finished product, whether it be a hamburger or the space shuttle and all this is done in the comfy environment of the building. BTW the employees are paid while they do all this before the first dollar is earned by the company. So don;t give me this crap that employees make all the money for the company, without all the risk taken by the company from the start there would be no employees.

So an employer makes an investment, and employees make all the money for said investment.

If you create a business correctly, there is no risk.

FYI: Early on, I created one business, purchased one, and sold both making millions. I've Angel Invested 10 businesses which are all doing wonderfully. Currently, the company I Angel Invested I purchased, and if all goes correctly (which it will) will be a billion-dollar/yr business by 2020.

Wow you obviously know NOTHING about creating businesses! Your claims to be this whiz kid financier are laughable quite frankly. I doubt you could open and run a lemonade stand let alone a billion dollar a year business!

Internet blowhards like you can't help yourselves...you have to keep making your bullshit claims bigger and bigger until suddenly you're a combination of Bill Gates, Donald Trump and Mark Cuban!

Can you say LOSER!!!!!!!!!!!

Obviously not only do you not know business but you seem to have a reading comprehension problem as well. Show me the quote where I claimed to be "this whiz kid financier". I started a couple of businesses with my own money, I took all the risk and without my willingness to do so the folks I hired wouldn't of had the opportunity to make money for themselves. I did all the sales and without sales there would be no need for employees because there would be no customers, so by your logic the salesmen make all the companies money, Right?

Ah, OK? That post was directed at 1% not you!

Sorry about that, I thought I was also, I hate the new alert system. This isn't the first time I made such a mistake and likely won't be the last.

 

[Oldstyle]

all the money for said investment.
Obviously not only do you not know business but you seem to have a reading comprehension problem as well. Show me the quote where I claimed to be "this whiz kid financier". I started a couple of businesses with my own money, I took all the risk and without my willingness to do so the folks I hired wouldn't of had the opportunity to make money for themselves. I did all the sales and without sales there would be no need for employees because there would be no customers, so by your logic the salesmen make all the companies money, Right?

Why would you create an investment and work it yourself?

Why would you start a business with your own money? Couldn't sell the idea to anyone? How's the business goin' for ya now? Did ya make a million bucks? (which is the point)

You really don't have a clue how most small business are started do you, even Bill Gates started with an idea, a friend and family money, which wasn't much. He was the exception to the rule and made a butt load where the vast majority make enough for the owner to earn a comfortable living and make small investments for their future, I'm retired now and have a larger income than anytime during my working life. Am I rich, no, but I live comfortably on my own terms, isn't that what life's supposed to be about? I know people with a lot more money than I have and I wouldn't trade places with them on a bet.

Obviously you have never run a business, equipment makes money employees don't put their money at risk to buy it, raw materials mark ups make money employees don't put their money at risk to buy them, buildings make money once again employees don't risk their money on them. Employees come in at the end, they are trained on how to use the equipment, they are taught how to handle the raw materials and how to produce a finished product, whether it be a hamburger or the space shuttle and all this is done in the comfy environment of the building. BTW the employees are paid while they do all this before the first dollar is earned by the company. So don;t give me this crap that employees make all the money for the company, without all the risk taken by the company from the start there would be no employees.

So an employer makes an investment, and employees make all the money for said investment.

If you create a business correctly, there is no risk.

FYI: Early on, I created one business, purchased one, and sold both making millions. I've Angel Invested 10 businesses which are all doing wonderfully. Currently, the company I Angel Invested I purchased, and if all goes correctly (which it will) will be a billion-dollar/yr business by 2020.

Wow you obviously know NOTHING about creating businesses! Your claims to be this whiz kid financier are laughable quite frankly. I doubt you could open and run a lemonade stand let alone a billion dollar a year business!

Internet blowhards like you can't help yourselves...you have to keep making your bullshit claims bigger and bigger until suddenly you're a combination of Bill Gates, Donald Trump and Mark Cuban!

Can you say LOSER!!!!!!!!!!!

Obviously not only do you not know business but you seem to have a reading comprehension problem as well. Show me the quote where I claimed to be "this whiz kid financier". I started a couple of businesses with my own money, I took all the risk and without my willingness to do so the folks I hired wouldn't of had the opportunity to make money for themselves. I did all the sales and without sales there would be no need for employees because there would be no customers, so by your logic the salesmen make all the companies money, Right?

Ah, OK? That post was directed at 1% not you!

Sorry about that, I thought I was also, I hate the new alert system. This isn't the first time I made such a mistake and likely won't be the last.

I agree with you...this new system makes it hard to decipher who's saying what to you.

 

[Contumacious]

Apparently they think the government should pay for all the services it offers them. Highways be damned!

I think it's safe to say. The wealthy should be taxed the most not because it is what's fair, but because it's what's the most realistic. That is where the main source of our government funding comes from (regardless of whether or not the president in charge is over spending). Even if you don't agree with that logic, you should at least agree the greed that keeps wealthy people from paying taxes is flat out wrong.

BULLSHIT.

Americans have a right to protect their wealth and ONLY pay what is CONSTITUTIONALLY owed.

The "graduated income tax" is a socialistic UNCONSTITUTIONAL scam and Americans must find any means to prevent paying the same.

Numerous parasites post here and claim that they have a RIGHT to be fed, insured, educated, clothed and their thirst quench - that the government, ie, the taxpayers owe them a living.

Other parasites demand that we intervene in and invade every country on the face of mother earth.

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Americans have a right to protect their wealth and ONLY pay what is CONSTITUTIONALLY owed.

The "graduated income tax" is a socialistic UNCONSTITUTIONAL scam and Americans must find any means to prevent paying the same.

Numerous parasites post here and claim that they have a RIGHT to be fed, insured, educated, clothed and their thirst quench - that the government, ie, the taxpayers owe them a living.

Other parasites demand that we intervene in and invade every country on the face of mother earth.

 

[Billy000]

Apparently they think the government should pay for all the services it offers them. Highways be damned!

I think it's safe to say. The wealthy should be taxed the most not because it is what's fair, but because it's what's the most realistic. That is where the main source of our government funding comes from (regardless of whether or not the president in charge is over spending). Even if you don't agree with that logic, you should at least agree the greed that keeps wealthy people from paying taxes is flat out wrong.

BULLSHIT.

Americans have a right to protect their wealth and ONLY pay what is CONSTITUTIONALLY owed.

The "graduated income tax" is a socialistic UNCONSTITUTIONAL scam and Americans must find any means to prevent paying the same.

Numerous parasites post here and claim that they have a RIGHT to be fed, insured, educated, clothed and their thirst quench - that the government, ie, the taxpayers owe them a living.

Other parasites demand that we intervene in and invade every country on the face of mother earth.

.

Americans have a right to protect their wealth and ONLY pay what is CONSTITUTIONALLY owed.

The "graduated income tax" is a socialistic UNCONSTITUTIONAL scam and Americans must find any means to prevent paying the same.

Numerous parasites post here and claim that they have a RIGHT to be fed, insured, educated, clothed and their thirst quench - that the government, ie, the taxpayers owe them a living.

Other parasites demand that we intervene in and invade every country on the face of mother earth.

Oh for fuck sake. Do you honestly these rich folk say "oh that tax not constitutional! I will happily pay for that other tax that is mandated!"?

No. Constitutionally mandated or not, they will dodge it if they can.

 

[OnePercenter]

By the same argument capital makes all the money. Or machinery. Or real estate.
You're not very good at this, are you?

Capital makes the platform possible for employees to make all the money for the employer.

 

[OnePercenter]

Check the number of millionaires who are college drop outs and get back to me.
Poseur.

So tell us the total number of net millionaires and the number of net millionaires who are college dropouts.

 

[OnePercenter]

You really don't have a clue how most small business are started do you, even Bill Gates started with an idea, a friend and family money, which wasn't much. He was the exception to the rule and made a butt load where the vast majority make enough for the owner to earn a comfortable living and make small investments for their future, I'm retired now and have a larger income than anytime during my working life. Am I rich, no, but I live comfortably on my own terms, isn't that what life's supposed to be about? I know people with a lot more money than I have and I wouldn't trade places with them on a bet.

Yes, Bill Gates was the exception to the rule.

 

[Kosh]

Apparently they think the government should pay for all the services it offers them. Highways be damned!

I think it's safe to say. The wealthy should be taxed the most not because it is what's fair, but because it's what's the most realistic. That is where the main source of our government funding comes from (regardless of whether or not the president in charge is over spending). Even if you don't agree with that logic, you should at least agree the greed that keeps wealthy people from paying taxes is flat out wrong.

BULLSHIT.

Americans have a right to protect their wealth and ONLY pay what is CONSTITUTIONALLY owed.

The "graduated income tax" is a socialistic UNCONSTITUTIONAL scam and Americans must find any means to prevent paying the same.

Numerous parasites post here and claim that they have a RIGHT to be fed, insured, educated, clothed and their thirst quench - that the government, ie, the taxpayers owe them a living.

Other parasites demand that we intervene in and invade every country on the face of mother earth.

.

Americans have a right to protect their wealth and ONLY pay what is CONSTITUTIONALLY owed.

The "graduated income tax" is a socialistic UNCONSTITUTIONAL scam and Americans must find any means to prevent paying the same.

Numerous parasites post here and claim that they have a RIGHT to be fed, insured, educated, clothed and their thirst quench - that the government, ie, the taxpayers owe them a living.

Other parasites demand that we intervene in and invade every country on the face of mother earth.

Oh for fuck sake. Do you honestly these rich folk say "oh that tax not constitutional! I will happily pay for that other tax that is mandated!"?

No. Constitutionally mandated or not, they will dodge it if they can.

So are you being a good far left drone and giving all your money to government and letting them pay you what they think you are worth or are being the hypocrite far left drone we know you to be and takes advantage of all the tax breaks you can and not pay your "fair share"..

 

[OnePercenter]

That would be you.

People who brag about how accomplished they are on the internet are the epitome of the word loser. You make a horses ass of yourself when you claim to be running a billion dollar a year business when it's obvious from your posts that you don't know the first thing about running a business let alone one that size.

I don't brag about anything, I tell you the way it is and tell you how to do it.

 

[Contumacious]

Apparently they think the government should pay for all the services it offers them. Highways be damned!

I think it's safe to say. The wealthy should be taxed the most not because it is what's fair, but because it's what's the most realistic. That is where the main source of our government funding comes from (regardless of whether or not the president in charge is over spending). Even if you don't agree with that logic, you should at least agree the greed that keeps wealthy people from paying taxes is flat out wrong.

BULLSHIT.

Americans have a right to protect their wealth and ONLY pay what is CONSTITUTIONALLY owed.

The "graduated income tax" is a socialistic UNCONSTITUTIONAL scam and Americans must find any means to prevent paying the same.

Numerous parasites post here and claim that they have a RIGHT to be fed, insured, educated, clothed and their thirst quench - that the government, ie, the taxpayers owe them a living.

Other parasites demand that we intervene in and invade every country on the face of mother earth.

.

Americans have a right to protect their wealth and ONLY pay what is CONSTITUTIONALLY owed.

The "graduated income tax" is a socialistic UNCONSTITUTIONAL scam and Americans must find any means to prevent paying the same.

Numerous parasites post here and claim that they have a RIGHT to be fed, insured, educated, clothed and their thirst quench - that the government, ie, the taxpayers owe them a living.

Other parasites demand that we intervene in and invade every country on the face of mother earth.

Oh for fuck sake. Do you honestly these rich folk say "oh that tax not constitutional! I will happily pay for that other tax that is mandated!"?

No. Constitutionally mandated or not, they will dodge it if they can.

Be that as it may, they have a right to keep THEIR money.


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