Are the numerous dog breeds proof of evolution?

[sealybobo]

Indeependent

Actually Since Floods leave scars on the Earth Surface that last well basically forever----------we can safely say that there never ever was a World Wide Flood as described in the Bible. NEVER happened. We also know through genetics and DNA----that one pair of animals would not be enough genetics to repopulate any species----well other than a virus maybe.

And what is "world wide", when you are a Neolithic people who never wandered more than two dozen miles from your home village?

Obviously, it is a flood that devastates everything in your region, because that is the "world" as far as you are concerned. If you live on that split of land between the Tigris and Euphrates rivers in 4,000 BCE and then everything as far as the eye can see is underwater, of course as far as you are concerned "the entire world flooded".

Obviously even trying to change your mindset to seeing things how people thousands of years ago viewed them is beyond your capability.

Excellent, see you are ok when not obsessed with fake trains

We are talking about evolution. What that has to do with trains, I have absolutely no idea.

There is no evolution between dogs and wolves as they are exactly the same species. That said I do like your baby gif, is that you or your Son?

Not true. Dogs are evolving too. Not into a new species at least not for a long time.

The dog, Canis familiaris, is a direct descendent of the gray wolf, Canis lupus: All modern dogs are descendants of wolves.

Now what about us? We are homo sapiens.

But humans are not descended from monkeys or any other primate living today. We do share a common ape ancestor with chimpanzees. It lived between 8 and 6 million years ago. But humans and chimpanzees evolved differently from that same ancestor.

Again dogs and wolves are exactly the same species,

Exactly?

and no breed of dog is evolved from the wolf, as no dog can exist in the wild.

(1) After an beagle had disappeared here in the near they found him 2 years later in the woods - he was very fat.

(2) If you say dogs are not able to survive but wolves are able to survive and you say the same time both are exactly the same species then something is wrong with this idea.

Sure some can but they rapidly either die with the survivors picking up wolf traits

The fact about a beagle even though they are great hunters is that they are short dogs with short legs meaning that they rarely catch anything on foot. The fact is that an eagle could choose to eat the beagle and not the other way around. Poor choice Fred as I owned a beagle once

Beagles can't catch a rabbit but I've seen my beagle kill a possum, water vole, muskrat, mole, mice, groundhog, etc.

Perhaps your beagle was a pussy? I had a pure bred blue tick beagle.

The blue tick beagle is a small hunting dog with a short coat that is partially mottled bluish-gray in color. It is a very friendly and intelligent breed that is often used for hunting rabbits and other small game.

Well your beagle is still a parasite that can not exist in the wild. People do not understand that wild dogs do not see breed, they just screw the bitch in heat irrespective of breed including wolves and coyotes. As such purebred dogs can never exist in the wild. LOL my 4 German Shorthairs could bite a bear on the ass and never be there when the bear turned around and run any beagle or bear to death.

PS Your tiny beagle will also not survive a northern winter in the woods, but since you live in the redneck shed.......Well u kno

PSS. One of my shorthairs actually handed my wife a rabbit once. Really

Today I have a PBGV. Somehow I got lucky when I found him because he's an amazing hunting dog. If I shoot a deer I go get him and show him where I shot the deer and in 1 minute he's on the deer trying to rip the hair off it's ass so he can get to the rump meat. It's like instinctively he does exactly what wolves would do. And when the dogs at the dog park pick on a dog he knows pack mentality so he joins the pack. That way he's never the one getting picked on.

He acts tough but as soon as the other dog shows their teeth, he becomes a pussy. So cute. I've even heard him yelp like a little girl before the dog even bit him. They just ran at him with their teeth showing and YELP! So cute. I love that little guy.

What's a PBGV?

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One day a raccoon was walking through the woods. He ran up and bit it in the neck and shook it but he doesn't have that powerful of a bite. So the raccoon was fine. It turned around and was going to fuck my dog up and I grabbed my dog by the body hair and picked him up like a pillow. The raccoon was clung to him and he was just about to start fucking up my dog and I shook the raccoon off. WHEW!

P.S. I was watching my favorite tv show mountain men. One of the guys dogs didn't come home. In the morning he found it dead. But it was 15 years old and it was winter. Heck, even coyote's and wolves have dens where they sleep and keep warm. I feel sorry for the lone wolf who gets kicked out of his pack and has to live on his own.

No German Shorthair owner has ever shown their partner where any animal live or dead was or is. So if you are showing your dog where a deer is, from a hunting standpoint you just have the wrong dog. The photo also looks like a cross between a bearded collie and a basset hound, now since the Basset comes from the Bloodhound their tracking abilities are there, but as you say the prey must already be dead as there are no legs. GSP's hunt, track, point and retrieve, the tracking can be scent or sight or both, they are legendary and if you ever get one they will teach you much because they are the teacher to inferior humans where hunting is concerned. Not sure if you are French but the French actually have their own GSP and they call it the Braque Francais because well they are French and can not admit that the German is the best of the best, always.

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I said I showed my dog where I shot the deer. He then picked up the blood trail and ran right to the deer. I actually had to wait because if the thing wasn't dead yet my dog would have made him get up and run further into the woods.

PBGV. Petite (small) Bassett Griffon Vendeen. Vendee is the town in France where the breed came from.

Again no GSP owner ever shows their GSP an animal or trail, really this happens the other way around as the GSP seems to know the unknowable and does not need the handler for anything. The fact is that GSP owners understand this and all others are wannabees including English Pointer owners who's doggies are afraid to get their feet wet. Again the best French hunter is the Braque Francais which is merely an unrefined GSP.

I was wondering what kind of dog does the guy on Mountain Men use for hunting mountain lions.

Blue tick coonhounds are the preferred choice for most, but black and tan hounds, leopard curs and redbone hounds are also used.

On Mountain men one guy uses Treeing Walker Coonhounds

It would never occur to me to even think about using a dog to trail a lion as the lion can just turn around and kill 6 dogs in rapid succession as a mountain lion can slap a dog and break it's spine instantly. Then again it would never occur to me to hunt something as beautiful as a mountain lion in the first place.

He doesn't shoot the lions. His dogs tree the lion, then he bangs the tree with a stick causing vibration and the cat jumps. The dogs sometimes scrap with the cat but it's 4 on 1 and yes the dogs are in danger and sometimes get scratched up or seriously hurt. But the cat runs further up the mountain. He may tree/chase the cat 2 or 3 times until it's far enough up the mountain and not going to come back for their livestock or elementary school kids. Yea a cat was seen near the school so they called him in to run it off.

We always joke that the reason he doesn't kill the cats is because they are his business. If he kills them he's out of a job. They'll be back. But at least he's instilling a fear of man and dogs in them. It's not worth coming to kill a human child, cat, dog, sheep or cow.

 

[Dusty]

Indeependent

Actually Since Floods leave scars on the Earth Surface that last well basically forever----------we can safely say that there never ever was a World Wide Flood as described in the Bible. NEVER happened. We also know through genetics and DNA----that one pair of animals would not be enough genetics to repopulate any species----well other than a virus maybe.

And what is "world wide", when you are a Neolithic people who never wandered more than two dozen miles from your home village?

Obviously, it is a flood that devastates everything in your region, because that is the "world" as far as you are concerned. If you live on that split of land between the Tigris and Euphrates rivers in 4,000 BCE and then everything as far as the eye can see is underwater, of course as far as you are concerned "the entire world flooded".

Obviously even trying to change your mindset to seeing things how people thousands of years ago viewed them is beyond your capability.

Excellent, see you are ok when not obsessed with fake trains

We are talking about evolution. What that has to do with trains, I have absolutely no idea.

There is no evolution between dogs and wolves as they are exactly the same species. That said I do like your baby gif, is that you or your Son?

Not true. Dogs are evolving too. Not into a new species at least not for a long time.

The dog, Canis familiaris, is a direct descendent of the gray wolf, Canis lupus: All modern dogs are descendants of wolves.

Now what about us? We are homo sapiens.

But humans are not descended from monkeys or any other primate living today. We do share a common ape ancestor with chimpanzees. It lived between 8 and 6 million years ago. But humans and chimpanzees evolved differently from that same ancestor.

Again dogs and wolves are exactly the same species,

Exactly?

and no breed of dog is evolved from the wolf, as no dog can exist in the wild.

(1) After an beagle had disappeared here in the near they found him 2 years later in the woods - he was very fat.

(2) If you say dogs are not able to survive but wolves are able to survive and you say the same time both are exactly the same species then something is wrong with this idea.

Sure some can but they rapidly either die with the survivors picking up wolf traits

The fact about a beagle even though they are great hunters is that they are short dogs with short legs meaning that they rarely catch anything on foot. The fact is that an eagle could choose to eat the beagle and not the other way around. Poor choice Fred as I owned a beagle once

Beagles can't catch a rabbit but I've seen my beagle kill a possum, water vole, muskrat, mole, mice, groundhog, etc.

Perhaps your beagle was a pussy? I had a pure bred blue tick beagle.

The blue tick beagle is a small hunting dog with a short coat that is partially mottled bluish-gray in color. It is a very friendly and intelligent breed that is often used for hunting rabbits and other small game.

Well your beagle is still a parasite that can not exist in the wild. People do not understand that wild dogs do not see breed, they just screw the bitch in heat irrespective of breed including wolves and coyotes. As such purebred dogs can never exist in the wild. LOL my 4 German Shorthairs could bite a bear on the ass and never be there when the bear turned around and run any beagle or bear to death.

PS Your tiny beagle will also not survive a northern winter in the woods, but since you live in the redneck shed.......Well u kno

PSS. One of my shorthairs actually handed my wife a rabbit once. Really

Today I have a PBGV. Somehow I got lucky when I found him because he's an amazing hunting dog. If I shoot a deer I go get him and show him where I shot the deer and in 1 minute he's on the deer trying to rip the hair off it's ass so he can get to the rump meat. It's like instinctively he does exactly what wolves would do. And when the dogs at the dog park pick on a dog he knows pack mentality so he joins the pack. That way he's never the one getting picked on.

He acts tough but as soon as the other dog shows their teeth, he becomes a pussy. So cute. I've even heard him yelp like a little girl before the dog even bit him. They just ran at him with their teeth showing and YELP! So cute. I love that little guy.

What's a PBGV?

View attachment 507656

One day a raccoon was walking through the woods. He ran up and bit it in the neck and shook it but he doesn't have that powerful of a bite. So the raccoon was fine. It turned around and was going to fuck my dog up and I grabbed my dog by the body hair and picked him up like a pillow. The raccoon was clung to him and he was just about to start fucking up my dog and I shook the raccoon off. WHEW!

P.S. I was watching my favorite tv show mountain men. One of the guys dogs didn't come home. In the morning he found it dead. But it was 15 years old and it was winter. Heck, even coyote's and wolves have dens where they sleep and keep warm. I feel sorry for the lone wolf who gets kicked out of his pack and has to live on his own.

No German Shorthair owner has ever shown their partner where any animal live or dead was or is. So if you are showing your dog where a deer is, from a hunting standpoint you just have the wrong dog. The photo also looks like a cross between a bearded collie and a basset hound, now since the Basset comes from the Bloodhound their tracking abilities are there, but as you say the prey must already be dead as there are no legs. GSP's hunt, track, point and retrieve, the tracking can be scent or sight or both, they are legendary and if you ever get one they will teach you much because they are the teacher to inferior humans where hunting is concerned. Not sure if you are French but the French actually have their own GSP and they call it the Braque Francais because well they are French and can not admit that the German is the best of the best, always.

I have the same picture except my dogs led me to the kill and not the other way around

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Oh yea those GSP's are great dogs. I see them at the dog park. Or back in the woods like my dog they love to run free in the woods. Only my dog may one day get eaten by a coyote. I think a GSP would be safe don't you? Not against a pack of coyotes at night but in general, they are big and fast enough they'll get away and come run back to you. My stupid dog chased after a fox once. I was screaming GET BACK and he ran over the hill so I couldn't see him. Next thing I know he's running towards me and the thing is galloping behind him. At the time I thought coyote but now I'm pretty sure it was a fox. I saw another one came real close at my house when I had the dog. Almost daring the dog to come chase him. I think they are playing, right? Or is the fox trying to eat my dog?

I can't believe I can't tell the difference between a fox and coyote but it's always dark when I see them. Dark enough I can't tell. I think I see the fluffy fox tail so I think it's a fox but fox and coyote kind of look similar in the dark.

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It was probably a fox as they are more numerous in most places, however a fox would tend to scram with any dog on it's tail so it might have been a coyote that left only when it saw you. That is the thing about a hunting dog, it has to be big enough when needed, small enough to be faster than fast and smart enough to handle itself alone and also know when to get back to the gun. Only saw a coyote once with my GSP, it saw me and ran into the woods while my female was scent tracking birds so she never saw it. I did get her out of there right away because what coyotes do is lure a dog back to the pack and snap it's over for most dogs. I try to lose my dogs, have been since 1993, not possible and if they did get lost they would find another person nearly instantly and I would get a call. My older female takes walks around the neighborhood until a friendly neighbor grabs her and calls me.

 

[Dusty]

Indeependent

Actually Since Floods leave scars on the Earth Surface that last well basically forever----------we can safely say that there never ever was a World Wide Flood as described in the Bible. NEVER happened. We also know through genetics and DNA----that one pair of animals would not be enough genetics to repopulate any species----well other than a virus maybe.

And what is "world wide", when you are a Neolithic people who never wandered more than two dozen miles from your home village?

Obviously, it is a flood that devastates everything in your region, because that is the "world" as far as you are concerned. If you live on that split of land between the Tigris and Euphrates rivers in 4,000 BCE and then everything as far as the eye can see is underwater, of course as far as you are concerned "the entire world flooded".

Obviously even trying to change your mindset to seeing things how people thousands of years ago viewed them is beyond your capability.

Excellent, see you are ok when not obsessed with fake trains

We are talking about evolution. What that has to do with trains, I have absolutely no idea.

There is no evolution between dogs and wolves as they are exactly the same species. That said I do like your baby gif, is that you or your Son?

Not true. Dogs are evolving too. Not into a new species at least not for a long time.

The dog, Canis familiaris, is a direct descendent of the gray wolf, Canis lupus: All modern dogs are descendants of wolves.

Now what about us? We are homo sapiens.

But humans are not descended from monkeys or any other primate living today. We do share a common ape ancestor with chimpanzees. It lived between 8 and 6 million years ago. But humans and chimpanzees evolved differently from that same ancestor.

Again dogs and wolves are exactly the same species,

Exactly?

and no breed of dog is evolved from the wolf, as no dog can exist in the wild.

(1) After an beagle had disappeared here in the near they found him 2 years later in the woods - he was very fat.

(2) If you say dogs are not able to survive but wolves are able to survive and you say the same time both are exactly the same species then something is wrong with this idea.

Sure some can but they rapidly either die with the survivors picking up wolf traits

The fact about a beagle even though they are great hunters is that they are short dogs with short legs meaning that they rarely catch anything on foot. The fact is that an eagle could choose to eat the beagle and not the other way around. Poor choice Fred as I owned a beagle once

Beagles can't catch a rabbit but I've seen my beagle kill a possum, water vole, muskrat, mole, mice, groundhog, etc.

Perhaps your beagle was a pussy? I had a pure bred blue tick beagle.

The blue tick beagle is a small hunting dog with a short coat that is partially mottled bluish-gray in color. It is a very friendly and intelligent breed that is often used for hunting rabbits and other small game.

Well your beagle is still a parasite that can not exist in the wild. People do not understand that wild dogs do not see breed, they just screw the bitch in heat irrespective of breed including wolves and coyotes. As such purebred dogs can never exist in the wild. LOL my 4 German Shorthairs could bite a bear on the ass and never be there when the bear turned around and run any beagle or bear to death.

PS Your tiny beagle will also not survive a northern winter in the woods, but since you live in the redneck shed.......Well u kno

PSS. One of my shorthairs actually handed my wife a rabbit once. Really

Today I have a PBGV. Somehow I got lucky when I found him because he's an amazing hunting dog. If I shoot a deer I go get him and show him where I shot the deer and in 1 minute he's on the deer trying to rip the hair off it's ass so he can get to the rump meat. It's like instinctively he does exactly what wolves would do. And when the dogs at the dog park pick on a dog he knows pack mentality so he joins the pack. That way he's never the one getting picked on.

He acts tough but as soon as the other dog shows their teeth, he becomes a pussy. So cute. I've even heard him yelp like a little girl before the dog even bit him. They just ran at him with their teeth showing and YELP! So cute. I love that little guy.

What's a PBGV?

View attachment 507656

One day a raccoon was walking through the woods. He ran up and bit it in the neck and shook it but he doesn't have that powerful of a bite. So the raccoon was fine. It turned around and was going to fuck my dog up and I grabbed my dog by the body hair and picked him up like a pillow. The raccoon was clung to him and he was just about to start fucking up my dog and I shook the raccoon off. WHEW!

P.S. I was watching my favorite tv show mountain men. One of the guys dogs didn't come home. In the morning he found it dead. But it was 15 years old and it was winter. Heck, even coyote's and wolves have dens where they sleep and keep warm. I feel sorry for the lone wolf who gets kicked out of his pack and has to live on his own.

No German Shorthair owner has ever shown their partner where any animal live or dead was or is. So if you are showing your dog where a deer is, from a hunting standpoint you just have the wrong dog. The photo also looks like a cross between a bearded collie and a basset hound, now since the Basset comes from the Bloodhound their tracking abilities are there, but as you say the prey must already be dead as there are no legs. GSP's hunt, track, point and retrieve, the tracking can be scent or sight or both, they are legendary and if you ever get one they will teach you much because they are the teacher to inferior humans where hunting is concerned. Not sure if you are French but the French actually have their own GSP and they call it the Braque Francais because well they are French and can not admit that the German is the best of the best, always.

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I said I showed my dog where I shot the deer. He then picked up the blood trail and ran right to the deer. I actually had to wait because if the thing wasn't dead yet my dog would have made him get up and run further into the woods.

PBGV. Petite (small) Bassett Griffon Vendeen. Vendee is the town in France where the breed came from.

Again no GSP owner ever shows their GSP an animal or trail, really this happens the other way around as the GSP seems to know the unknowable and does not need the handler for anything. The fact is that GSP owners understand this and all others are wannabees including English Pointer owners who's doggies are afraid to get their feet wet. Again the best French hunter is the Braque Francais which is merely an unrefined GSP.

I was wondering what kind of dog does the guy on Mountain Men use for hunting mountain lions.

Blue tick coonhounds are the preferred choice for most, but black and tan hounds, leopard curs and redbone hounds are also used.

On Mountain men one guy uses Treeing Walker Coonhounds

It would never occur to me to even think about using a dog to trail a lion as the lion can just turn around and kill 6 dogs in rapid succession as a mountain lion can slap a dog and break it's spine instantly. Then again it would never occur to me to hunt something as beautiful as a mountain lion in the first place.

He doesn't shoot the lions. His dogs tree the lion, then he bangs the tree with a stick causing vibration and the cat jumps. The dogs sometimes scrap with the cat but it's 4 on 1 and yes the dogs are in danger and sometimes get scratched up or seriously hurt. But the cat runs further up the mountain. He may tree/chase the cat 2 or 3 times until it's far enough up the mountain and not going to come back for their livestock or elementary school kids. Yea a cat was seen near the school so they called him in to run it off.

We always joke that the reason he doesn't kill the cats is because they are his business. If he kills them he's out of a job. They'll be back. But at least he's instilling a fear of man and dogs in them. It's not worth coming to kill a human child, cat, dog, sheep or cow.

There ought to be a season for mountain lions to chase assholes, I would pay to watch

 

[sealybobo]

Indeependent

Actually Since Floods leave scars on the Earth Surface that last well basically forever----------we can safely say that there never ever was a World Wide Flood as described in the Bible. NEVER happened. We also know through genetics and DNA----that one pair of animals would not be enough genetics to repopulate any species----well other than a virus maybe.

And what is "world wide", when you are a Neolithic people who never wandered more than two dozen miles from your home village?

Obviously, it is a flood that devastates everything in your region, because that is the "world" as far as you are concerned. If you live on that split of land between the Tigris and Euphrates rivers in 4,000 BCE and then everything as far as the eye can see is underwater, of course as far as you are concerned "the entire world flooded".

Obviously even trying to change your mindset to seeing things how people thousands of years ago viewed them is beyond your capability.

Excellent, see you are ok when not obsessed with fake trains

We are talking about evolution. What that has to do with trains, I have absolutely no idea.

There is no evolution between dogs and wolves as they are exactly the same species. That said I do like your baby gif, is that you or your Son?

Not true. Dogs are evolving too. Not into a new species at least not for a long time.

The dog, Canis familiaris, is a direct descendent of the gray wolf, Canis lupus: All modern dogs are descendants of wolves.

Now what about us? We are homo sapiens.

But humans are not descended from monkeys or any other primate living today. We do share a common ape ancestor with chimpanzees. It lived between 8 and 6 million years ago. But humans and chimpanzees evolved differently from that same ancestor.

Again dogs and wolves are exactly the same species,

Exactly?

and no breed of dog is evolved from the wolf, as no dog can exist in the wild.

(1) After an beagle had disappeared here in the near they found him 2 years later in the woods - he was very fat.

(2) If you say dogs are not able to survive but wolves are able to survive and you say the same time both are exactly the same species then something is wrong with this idea.

Sure some can but they rapidly either die with the survivors picking up wolf traits

The fact about a beagle even though they are great hunters is that they are short dogs with short legs meaning that they rarely catch anything on foot. The fact is that an eagle could choose to eat the beagle and not the other way around. Poor choice Fred as I owned a beagle once

Beagles can't catch a rabbit but I've seen my beagle kill a possum, water vole, muskrat, mole, mice, groundhog, etc.

Perhaps your beagle was a pussy? I had a pure bred blue tick beagle.

The blue tick beagle is a small hunting dog with a short coat that is partially mottled bluish-gray in color. It is a very friendly and intelligent breed that is often used for hunting rabbits and other small game.

Well your beagle is still a parasite that can not exist in the wild. People do not understand that wild dogs do not see breed, they just screw the bitch in heat irrespective of breed including wolves and coyotes. As such purebred dogs can never exist in the wild. LOL my 4 German Shorthairs could bite a bear on the ass and never be there when the bear turned around and run any beagle or bear to death.

PS Your tiny beagle will also not survive a northern winter in the woods, but since you live in the redneck shed.......Well u kno

PSS. One of my shorthairs actually handed my wife a rabbit once. Really

Today I have a PBGV. Somehow I got lucky when I found him because he's an amazing hunting dog. If I shoot a deer I go get him and show him where I shot the deer and in 1 minute he's on the deer trying to rip the hair off it's ass so he can get to the rump meat. It's like instinctively he does exactly what wolves would do. And when the dogs at the dog park pick on a dog he knows pack mentality so he joins the pack. That way he's never the one getting picked on.

He acts tough but as soon as the other dog shows their teeth, he becomes a pussy. So cute. I've even heard him yelp like a little girl before the dog even bit him. They just ran at him with their teeth showing and YELP! So cute. I love that little guy.

What's a PBGV?

View attachment 507656

One day a raccoon was walking through the woods. He ran up and bit it in the neck and shook it but he doesn't have that powerful of a bite. So the raccoon was fine. It turned around and was going to fuck my dog up and I grabbed my dog by the body hair and picked him up like a pillow. The raccoon was clung to him and he was just about to start fucking up my dog and I shook the raccoon off. WHEW!

P.S. I was watching my favorite tv show mountain men. One of the guys dogs didn't come home. In the morning he found it dead. But it was 15 years old and it was winter. Heck, even coyote's and wolves have dens where they sleep and keep warm. I feel sorry for the lone wolf who gets kicked out of his pack and has to live on his own.

No German Shorthair owner has ever shown their partner where any animal live or dead was or is. So if you are showing your dog where a deer is, from a hunting standpoint you just have the wrong dog. The photo also looks like a cross between a bearded collie and a basset hound, now since the Basset comes from the Bloodhound their tracking abilities are there, but as you say the prey must already be dead as there are no legs. GSP's hunt, track, point and retrieve, the tracking can be scent or sight or both, they are legendary and if you ever get one they will teach you much because they are the teacher to inferior humans where hunting is concerned. Not sure if you are French but the French actually have their own GSP and they call it the Braque Francais because well they are French and can not admit that the German is the best of the best, always.

​

I said I showed my dog where I shot the deer. He then picked up the blood trail and ran right to the deer. I actually had to wait because if the thing wasn't dead yet my dog would have made him get up and run further into the woods.

PBGV. Petite (small) Bassett Griffon Vendeen. Vendee is the town in France where the breed came from.

Again no GSP owner ever shows their GSP an animal or trail, really this happens the other way around as the GSP seems to know the unknowable and does not need the handler for anything. The fact is that GSP owners understand this and all others are wannabees including English Pointer owners who's doggies are afraid to get their feet wet. Again the best French hunter is the Braque Francais which is merely an unrefined GSP.

I was wondering what kind of dog does the guy on Mountain Men use for hunting mountain lions.

Blue tick coonhounds are the preferred choice for most, but black and tan hounds, leopard curs and redbone hounds are also used.

On Mountain men one guy uses Treeing Walker Coonhounds

It would never occur to me to even think about using a dog to trail a lion as the lion can just turn around and kill 6 dogs in rapid succession as a mountain lion can slap a dog and break it's spine instantly. Then again it would never occur to me to hunt something as beautiful as a mountain lion in the first place.

He doesn't shoot the lions. His dogs tree the lion, then he bangs the tree with a stick causing vibration and the cat jumps. The dogs sometimes scrap with the cat but it's 4 on 1 and yes the dogs are in danger and sometimes get scratched up or seriously hurt. But the cat runs further up the mountain. He may tree/chase the cat 2 or 3 times until it's far enough up the mountain and not going to come back for their livestock or elementary school kids. Yea a cat was seen near the school so they called him in to run it off.

We always joke that the reason he doesn't kill the cats is because they are his business. If he kills them he's out of a job. They'll be back. But at least he's instilling a fear of man and dogs in them. It's not worth coming to kill a human child, cat, dog, sheep or cow.

There ought to be a season for mountain lions to chase assholes, I would pay to watch

I can't believe there aren't any bobcats or lynx where I live. Lots of woods. They're up north Michigan. We must have killed them all off locally. Part of me is sad but then I don't like any creatures out there that can kill my dog. When it's not deer season I hunt coyote off the porch on my brothers 65 acres up north. I've seen and shot at two but never a good shot. Hopefully I scared them off. But I went out and got a night light that works great. So the next time I see a coyote at night I'll have them in my cross hairs. The last time I shined my light out in the field and there he was. So I grabbed my gun (without a night light) and I couldn't see a damn thing. So I flashed the light and saw him running away. I didn't have a light attached to my gun! Now I do.

There's a bear on the property too. Scary. Can't shoot them either.

 

[Dusty]

Indeependent

Actually Since Floods leave scars on the Earth Surface that last well basically forever----------we can safely say that there never ever was a World Wide Flood as described in the Bible. NEVER happened. We also know through genetics and DNA----that one pair of animals would not be enough genetics to repopulate any species----well other than a virus maybe.

And what is "world wide", when you are a Neolithic people who never wandered more than two dozen miles from your home village?

Obviously, it is a flood that devastates everything in your region, because that is the "world" as far as you are concerned. If you live on that split of land between the Tigris and Euphrates rivers in 4,000 BCE and then everything as far as the eye can see is underwater, of course as far as you are concerned "the entire world flooded".

Obviously even trying to change your mindset to seeing things how people thousands of years ago viewed them is beyond your capability.

Excellent, see you are ok when not obsessed with fake trains

We are talking about evolution. What that has to do with trains, I have absolutely no idea.

There is no evolution between dogs and wolves as they are exactly the same species. That said I do like your baby gif, is that you or your Son?

Not true. Dogs are evolving too. Not into a new species at least not for a long time.

The dog, Canis familiaris, is a direct descendent of the gray wolf, Canis lupus: All modern dogs are descendants of wolves.

Now what about us? We are homo sapiens.

But humans are not descended from monkeys or any other primate living today. We do share a common ape ancestor with chimpanzees. It lived between 8 and 6 million years ago. But humans and chimpanzees evolved differently from that same ancestor.

Again dogs and wolves are exactly the same species,

Exactly?

and no breed of dog is evolved from the wolf, as no dog can exist in the wild.

(1) After an beagle had disappeared here in the near they found him 2 years later in the woods - he was very fat.

(2) If you say dogs are not able to survive but wolves are able to survive and you say the same time both are exactly the same species then something is wrong with this idea.

Sure some can but they rapidly either die with the survivors picking up wolf traits

The fact about a beagle even though they are great hunters is that they are short dogs with short legs meaning that they rarely catch anything on foot. The fact is that an eagle could choose to eat the beagle and not the other way around. Poor choice Fred as I owned a beagle once

Beagles can't catch a rabbit but I've seen my beagle kill a possum, water vole, muskrat, mole, mice, groundhog, etc.

Perhaps your beagle was a pussy? I had a pure bred blue tick beagle.

The blue tick beagle is a small hunting dog with a short coat that is partially mottled bluish-gray in color. It is a very friendly and intelligent breed that is often used for hunting rabbits and other small game.

Well your beagle is still a parasite that can not exist in the wild. People do not understand that wild dogs do not see breed, they just screw the bitch in heat irrespective of breed including wolves and coyotes. As such purebred dogs can never exist in the wild. LOL my 4 German Shorthairs could bite a bear on the ass and never be there when the bear turned around and run any beagle or bear to death.

PS Your tiny beagle will also not survive a northern winter in the woods, but since you live in the redneck shed.......Well u kno

PSS. One of my shorthairs actually handed my wife a rabbit once. Really

Today I have a PBGV. Somehow I got lucky when I found him because he's an amazing hunting dog. If I shoot a deer I go get him and show him where I shot the deer and in 1 minute he's on the deer trying to rip the hair off it's ass so he can get to the rump meat. It's like instinctively he does exactly what wolves would do. And when the dogs at the dog park pick on a dog he knows pack mentality so he joins the pack. That way he's never the one getting picked on.

He acts tough but as soon as the other dog shows their teeth, he becomes a pussy. So cute. I've even heard him yelp like a little girl before the dog even bit him. They just ran at him with their teeth showing and YELP! So cute. I love that little guy.

What's a PBGV?

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One day a raccoon was walking through the woods. He ran up and bit it in the neck and shook it but he doesn't have that powerful of a bite. So the raccoon was fine. It turned around and was going to fuck my dog up and I grabbed my dog by the body hair and picked him up like a pillow. The raccoon was clung to him and he was just about to start fucking up my dog and I shook the raccoon off. WHEW!

P.S. I was watching my favorite tv show mountain men. One of the guys dogs didn't come home. In the morning he found it dead. But it was 15 years old and it was winter. Heck, even coyote's and wolves have dens where they sleep and keep warm. I feel sorry for the lone wolf who gets kicked out of his pack and has to live on his own.

No German Shorthair owner has ever shown their partner where any animal live or dead was or is. So if you are showing your dog where a deer is, from a hunting standpoint you just have the wrong dog. The photo also looks like a cross between a bearded collie and a basset hound, now since the Basset comes from the Bloodhound their tracking abilities are there, but as you say the prey must already be dead as there are no legs. GSP's hunt, track, point and retrieve, the tracking can be scent or sight or both, they are legendary and if you ever get one they will teach you much because they are the teacher to inferior humans where hunting is concerned. Not sure if you are French but the French actually have their own GSP and they call it the Braque Francais because well they are French and can not admit that the German is the best of the best, always.

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I said I showed my dog where I shot the deer. He then picked up the blood trail and ran right to the deer. I actually had to wait because if the thing wasn't dead yet my dog would have made him get up and run further into the woods.

PBGV. Petite (small) Bassett Griffon Vendeen. Vendee is the town in France where the breed came from.

Again no GSP owner ever shows their GSP an animal or trail, really this happens the other way around as the GSP seems to know the unknowable and does not need the handler for anything. The fact is that GSP owners understand this and all others are wannabees including English Pointer owners who's doggies are afraid to get their feet wet. Again the best French hunter is the Braque Francais which is merely an unrefined GSP.

I was wondering what kind of dog does the guy on Mountain Men use for hunting mountain lions.

Blue tick coonhounds are the preferred choice for most, but black and tan hounds, leopard curs and redbone hounds are also used.

On Mountain men one guy uses Treeing Walker Coonhounds

It would never occur to me to even think about using a dog to trail a lion as the lion can just turn around and kill 6 dogs in rapid succession as a mountain lion can slap a dog and break it's spine instantly. Then again it would never occur to me to hunt something as beautiful as a mountain lion in the first place.

He doesn't shoot the lions. His dogs tree the lion, then he bangs the tree with a stick causing vibration and the cat jumps. The dogs sometimes scrap with the cat but it's 4 on 1 and yes the dogs are in danger and sometimes get scratched up or seriously hurt. But the cat runs further up the mountain. He may tree/chase the cat 2 or 3 times until it's far enough up the mountain and not going to come back for their livestock or elementary school kids. Yea a cat was seen near the school so they called him in to run it off.

We always joke that the reason he doesn't kill the cats is because they are his business. If he kills them he's out of a job. They'll be back. But at least he's instilling a fear of man and dogs in them. It's not worth coming to kill a human child, cat, dog, sheep or cow.

There ought to be a season for mountain lions to chase assholes, I would pay to watch

I can't believe there aren't any bobcats or lynx where I live. Lots of woods. They're up north Michigan. We must have killed them all off locally. Part of me is sad but then I don't like any creatures out there that can kill my dog. When it's not deer season I hunt coyote off the porch on my brothers 65 acres up north. I've seen and shot at two but never a good shot. Hopefully I scared them off. But I went out and got a night light that works great. So the next time I see a coyote at night I'll have them in my cross hairs. The last time I shined my light out in the field and there he was. So I grabbed my gun (without a night light) and I couldn't see a damn thing. So I flashed the light and saw him running away. I didn't have a light attached to my gun! Now I do.

There's a bear on the property too. Scary. Can't shoot them either.

I had an idiot come looking at a litter of pups here once. He said that he wanted a smaller female GSP and that he had no fence on his property and that he had coyotes there as well. I was polite and he did not want a pup, but he never would have gotten one either. I almost told him to get a great Pyrenees male of 150 pounds if he had coyotes.

There are no bobcats, lynx or cougars because people like you shot them all.

 

[sealybobo]

Indeependent

Actually Since Floods leave scars on the Earth Surface that last well basically forever----------we can safely say that there never ever was a World Wide Flood as described in the Bible. NEVER happened. We also know through genetics and DNA----that one pair of animals would not be enough genetics to repopulate any species----well other than a virus maybe.

And what is "world wide", when you are a Neolithic people who never wandered more than two dozen miles from your home village?

Obviously, it is a flood that devastates everything in your region, because that is the "world" as far as you are concerned. If you live on that split of land between the Tigris and Euphrates rivers in 4,000 BCE and then everything as far as the eye can see is underwater, of course as far as you are concerned "the entire world flooded".

Obviously even trying to change your mindset to seeing things how people thousands of years ago viewed them is beyond your capability.

Excellent, see you are ok when not obsessed with fake trains

We are talking about evolution. What that has to do with trains, I have absolutely no idea.

There is no evolution between dogs and wolves as they are exactly the same species. That said I do like your baby gif, is that you or your Son?

Not true. Dogs are evolving too. Not into a new species at least not for a long time.

The dog, Canis familiaris, is a direct descendent of the gray wolf, Canis lupus: All modern dogs are descendants of wolves.

Now what about us? We are homo sapiens.

But humans are not descended from monkeys or any other primate living today. We do share a common ape ancestor with chimpanzees. It lived between 8 and 6 million years ago. But humans and chimpanzees evolved differently from that same ancestor.

Again dogs and wolves are exactly the same species,

Exactly?

and no breed of dog is evolved from the wolf, as no dog can exist in the wild.

(1) After an beagle had disappeared here in the near they found him 2 years later in the woods - he was very fat.

(2) If you say dogs are not able to survive but wolves are able to survive and you say the same time both are exactly the same species then something is wrong with this idea.

Sure some can but they rapidly either die with the survivors picking up wolf traits

The fact about a beagle even though they are great hunters is that they are short dogs with short legs meaning that they rarely catch anything on foot. The fact is that an eagle could choose to eat the beagle and not the other way around. Poor choice Fred as I owned a beagle once

Beagles can't catch a rabbit but I've seen my beagle kill a possum, water vole, muskrat, mole, mice, groundhog, etc.

Perhaps your beagle was a pussy? I had a pure bred blue tick beagle.

The blue tick beagle is a small hunting dog with a short coat that is partially mottled bluish-gray in color. It is a very friendly and intelligent breed that is often used for hunting rabbits and other small game.

Well your beagle is still a parasite that can not exist in the wild. People do not understand that wild dogs do not see breed, they just screw the bitch in heat irrespective of breed including wolves and coyotes. As such purebred dogs can never exist in the wild. LOL my 4 German Shorthairs could bite a bear on the ass and never be there when the bear turned around and run any beagle or bear to death.

PS Your tiny beagle will also not survive a northern winter in the woods, but since you live in the redneck shed.......Well u kno

PSS. One of my shorthairs actually handed my wife a rabbit once. Really

Today I have a PBGV. Somehow I got lucky when I found him because he's an amazing hunting dog. If I shoot a deer I go get him and show him where I shot the deer and in 1 minute he's on the deer trying to rip the hair off it's ass so he can get to the rump meat. It's like instinctively he does exactly what wolves would do. And when the dogs at the dog park pick on a dog he knows pack mentality so he joins the pack. That way he's never the one getting picked on.

He acts tough but as soon as the other dog shows their teeth, he becomes a pussy. So cute. I've even heard him yelp like a little girl before the dog even bit him. They just ran at him with their teeth showing and YELP! So cute. I love that little guy.

What's a PBGV?

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One day a raccoon was walking through the woods. He ran up and bit it in the neck and shook it but he doesn't have that powerful of a bite. So the raccoon was fine. It turned around and was going to fuck my dog up and I grabbed my dog by the body hair and picked him up like a pillow. The raccoon was clung to him and he was just about to start fucking up my dog and I shook the raccoon off. WHEW!

P.S. I was watching my favorite tv show mountain men. One of the guys dogs didn't come home. In the morning he found it dead. But it was 15 years old and it was winter. Heck, even coyote's and wolves have dens where they sleep and keep warm. I feel sorry for the lone wolf who gets kicked out of his pack and has to live on his own.

No German Shorthair owner has ever shown their partner where any animal live or dead was or is. So if you are showing your dog where a deer is, from a hunting standpoint you just have the wrong dog. The photo also looks like a cross between a bearded collie and a basset hound, now since the Basset comes from the Bloodhound their tracking abilities are there, but as you say the prey must already be dead as there are no legs. GSP's hunt, track, point and retrieve, the tracking can be scent or sight or both, they are legendary and if you ever get one they will teach you much because they are the teacher to inferior humans where hunting is concerned. Not sure if you are French but the French actually have their own GSP and they call it the Braque Francais because well they are French and can not admit that the German is the best of the best, always.

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I said I showed my dog where I shot the deer. He then picked up the blood trail and ran right to the deer. I actually had to wait because if the thing wasn't dead yet my dog would have made him get up and run further into the woods.

PBGV. Petite (small) Bassett Griffon Vendeen. Vendee is the town in France where the breed came from.

Again no GSP owner ever shows their GSP an animal or trail, really this happens the other way around as the GSP seems to know the unknowable and does not need the handler for anything. The fact is that GSP owners understand this and all others are wannabees including English Pointer owners who's doggies are afraid to get their feet wet. Again the best French hunter is the Braque Francais which is merely an unrefined GSP.

I was wondering what kind of dog does the guy on Mountain Men use for hunting mountain lions.

Blue tick coonhounds are the preferred choice for most, but black and tan hounds, leopard curs and redbone hounds are also used.

On Mountain men one guy uses Treeing Walker Coonhounds

It would never occur to me to even think about using a dog to trail a lion as the lion can just turn around and kill 6 dogs in rapid succession as a mountain lion can slap a dog and break it's spine instantly. Then again it would never occur to me to hunt something as beautiful as a mountain lion in the first place.

He doesn't shoot the lions. His dogs tree the lion, then he bangs the tree with a stick causing vibration and the cat jumps. The dogs sometimes scrap with the cat but it's 4 on 1 and yes the dogs are in danger and sometimes get scratched up or seriously hurt. But the cat runs further up the mountain. He may tree/chase the cat 2 or 3 times until it's far enough up the mountain and not going to come back for their livestock or elementary school kids. Yea a cat was seen near the school so they called him in to run it off.

We always joke that the reason he doesn't kill the cats is because they are his business. If he kills them he's out of a job. They'll be back. But at least he's instilling a fear of man and dogs in them. It's not worth coming to kill a human child, cat, dog, sheep or cow.

There ought to be a season for mountain lions to chase assholes, I would pay to watch

I can't believe there aren't any bobcats or lynx where I live. Lots of woods. They're up north Michigan. We must have killed them all off locally. Part of me is sad but then I don't like any creatures out there that can kill my dog. When it's not deer season I hunt coyote off the porch on my brothers 65 acres up north. I've seen and shot at two but never a good shot. Hopefully I scared them off. But I went out and got a night light that works great. So the next time I see a coyote at night I'll have them in my cross hairs. The last time I shined my light out in the field and there he was. So I grabbed my gun (without a night light) and I couldn't see a damn thing. So I flashed the light and saw him running away. I didn't have a light attached to my gun! Now I do.

There's a bear on the property too. Scary. Can't shoot them either.

I had an idiot come looking at a litter of pups here once. He said that he wanted a smaller female GSP and that he had no fence on his property and that he had coyotes there as well. I was polite and he did not want a pup, but he never would have gotten one either. I almost told him to get a great Pyrenees male of 150 pounds if he had coyotes.

There are no bobcats, lynx or cougars because people like you shot them all.

Actually there are bobcats where I live I've just never seen one. Rare and elusive.

Bobcats are not just a northern species, but live throughout the state of Michigan. They can even be found in the outskirts of large cities such as Detroit.

That's because the Canada Lynx is classified as a threatened species in Michigan with very few reported sighting over the last 40 years. Of these, most occurred in the Upper peninsula. In March of 2019 near Howell, MI the DNR actually live captured a lynx.

I live just south of Howell. So I'm sure there are Bobcat/Lynx in my woods. I would love to see one. I'm not really afraid of them like I am coyote. And I don't worry about the coyote going extinct they are thriving everywhere. I'd just like to chase them off my property up north. I hear them howling on the back of the property. It's scary. Even my dog looks concerned. To be honest? I think my dog might be afraid of coyote. He certainly didn't run off after them when he heard them howling.

I wouldn't shoot the bear that's on the property. But one day he might get me when I'm walking to my blind at 4:30am in the morning. I always say if I'm hunting and another animal gets me, I got what I deserved. Poetic justice. You can't go out killing deer and then cry if a bear kills you for food.

 

[Dusty]

Indeependent

Actually Since Floods leave scars on the Earth Surface that last well basically forever----------we can safely say that there never ever was a World Wide Flood as described in the Bible. NEVER happened. We also know through genetics and DNA----that one pair of animals would not be enough genetics to repopulate any species----well other than a virus maybe.

And what is "world wide", when you are a Neolithic people who never wandered more than two dozen miles from your home village?

Obviously, it is a flood that devastates everything in your region, because that is the "world" as far as you are concerned. If you live on that split of land between the Tigris and Euphrates rivers in 4,000 BCE and then everything as far as the eye can see is underwater, of course as far as you are concerned "the entire world flooded".

Obviously even trying to change your mindset to seeing things how people thousands of years ago viewed them is beyond your capability.

Excellent, see you are ok when not obsessed with fake trains

We are talking about evolution. What that has to do with trains, I have absolutely no idea.

There is no evolution between dogs and wolves as they are exactly the same species. That said I do like your baby gif, is that you or your Son?

Not true. Dogs are evolving too. Not into a new species at least not for a long time.

The dog, Canis familiaris, is a direct descendent of the gray wolf, Canis lupus: All modern dogs are descendants of wolves.

Now what about us? We are homo sapiens.

But humans are not descended from monkeys or any other primate living today. We do share a common ape ancestor with chimpanzees. It lived between 8 and 6 million years ago. But humans and chimpanzees evolved differently from that same ancestor.

Again dogs and wolves are exactly the same species,

Exactly?

and no breed of dog is evolved from the wolf, as no dog can exist in the wild.

(1) After an beagle had disappeared here in the near they found him 2 years later in the woods - he was very fat.

(2) If you say dogs are not able to survive but wolves are able to survive and you say the same time both are exactly the same species then something is wrong with this idea.

Sure some can but they rapidly either die with the survivors picking up wolf traits

The fact about a beagle even though they are great hunters is that they are short dogs with short legs meaning that they rarely catch anything on foot. The fact is that an eagle could choose to eat the beagle and not the other way around. Poor choice Fred as I owned a beagle once

Beagles can't catch a rabbit but I've seen my beagle kill a possum, water vole, muskrat, mole, mice, groundhog, etc.

Perhaps your beagle was a pussy? I had a pure bred blue tick beagle.

The blue tick beagle is a small hunting dog with a short coat that is partially mottled bluish-gray in color. It is a very friendly and intelligent breed that is often used for hunting rabbits and other small game.

Well your beagle is still a parasite that can not exist in the wild. People do not understand that wild dogs do not see breed, they just screw the bitch in heat irrespective of breed including wolves and coyotes. As such purebred dogs can never exist in the wild. LOL my 4 German Shorthairs could bite a bear on the ass and never be there when the bear turned around and run any beagle or bear to death.

PS Your tiny beagle will also not survive a northern winter in the woods, but since you live in the redneck shed.......Well u kno

PSS. One of my shorthairs actually handed my wife a rabbit once. Really

Today I have a PBGV. Somehow I got lucky when I found him because he's an amazing hunting dog. If I shoot a deer I go get him and show him where I shot the deer and in 1 minute he's on the deer trying to rip the hair off it's ass so he can get to the rump meat. It's like instinctively he does exactly what wolves would do. And when the dogs at the dog park pick on a dog he knows pack mentality so he joins the pack. That way he's never the one getting picked on.

He acts tough but as soon as the other dog shows their teeth, he becomes a pussy. So cute. I've even heard him yelp like a little girl before the dog even bit him. They just ran at him with their teeth showing and YELP! So cute. I love that little guy.

What's a PBGV?

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One day a raccoon was walking through the woods. He ran up and bit it in the neck and shook it but he doesn't have that powerful of a bite. So the raccoon was fine. It turned around and was going to fuck my dog up and I grabbed my dog by the body hair and picked him up like a pillow. The raccoon was clung to him and he was just about to start fucking up my dog and I shook the raccoon off. WHEW!

P.S. I was watching my favorite tv show mountain men. One of the guys dogs didn't come home. In the morning he found it dead. But it was 15 years old and it was winter. Heck, even coyote's and wolves have dens where they sleep and keep warm. I feel sorry for the lone wolf who gets kicked out of his pack and has to live on his own.

No German Shorthair owner has ever shown their partner where any animal live or dead was or is. So if you are showing your dog where a deer is, from a hunting standpoint you just have the wrong dog. The photo also looks like a cross between a bearded collie and a basset hound, now since the Basset comes from the Bloodhound their tracking abilities are there, but as you say the prey must already be dead as there are no legs. GSP's hunt, track, point and retrieve, the tracking can be scent or sight or both, they are legendary and if you ever get one they will teach you much because they are the teacher to inferior humans where hunting is concerned. Not sure if you are French but the French actually have their own GSP and they call it the Braque Francais because well they are French and can not admit that the German is the best of the best, always.

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I said I showed my dog where I shot the deer. He then picked up the blood trail and ran right to the deer. I actually had to wait because if the thing wasn't dead yet my dog would have made him get up and run further into the woods.

PBGV. Petite (small) Bassett Griffon Vendeen. Vendee is the town in France where the breed came from.

Again no GSP owner ever shows their GSP an animal or trail, really this happens the other way around as the GSP seems to know the unknowable and does not need the handler for anything. The fact is that GSP owners understand this and all others are wannabees including English Pointer owners who's doggies are afraid to get their feet wet. Again the best French hunter is the Braque Francais which is merely an unrefined GSP.

I was wondering what kind of dog does the guy on Mountain Men use for hunting mountain lions.

Blue tick coonhounds are the preferred choice for most, but black and tan hounds, leopard curs and redbone hounds are also used.

On Mountain men one guy uses Treeing Walker Coonhounds

It would never occur to me to even think about using a dog to trail a lion as the lion can just turn around and kill 6 dogs in rapid succession as a mountain lion can slap a dog and break it's spine instantly. Then again it would never occur to me to hunt something as beautiful as a mountain lion in the first place.

He doesn't shoot the lions. His dogs tree the lion, then he bangs the tree with a stick causing vibration and the cat jumps. The dogs sometimes scrap with the cat but it's 4 on 1 and yes the dogs are in danger and sometimes get scratched up or seriously hurt. But the cat runs further up the mountain. He may tree/chase the cat 2 or 3 times until it's far enough up the mountain and not going to come back for their livestock or elementary school kids. Yea a cat was seen near the school so they called him in to run it off.

We always joke that the reason he doesn't kill the cats is because they are his business. If he kills them he's out of a job. They'll be back. But at least he's instilling a fear of man and dogs in them. It's not worth coming to kill a human child, cat, dog, sheep or cow.

There ought to be a season for mountain lions to chase assholes, I would pay to watch

I can't believe there aren't any bobcats or lynx where I live. Lots of woods. They're up north Michigan. We must have killed them all off locally. Part of me is sad but then I don't like any creatures out there that can kill my dog. When it's not deer season I hunt coyote off the porch on my brothers 65 acres up north. I've seen and shot at two but never a good shot. Hopefully I scared them off. But I went out and got a night light that works great. So the next time I see a coyote at night I'll have them in my cross hairs. The last time I shined my light out in the field and there he was. So I grabbed my gun (without a night light) and I couldn't see a damn thing. So I flashed the light and saw him running away. I didn't have a light attached to my gun! Now I do.

There's a bear on the property too. Scary. Can't shoot them either.

I had an idiot come looking at a litter of pups here once. He said that he wanted a smaller female GSP and that he had no fence on his property and that he had coyotes there as well. I was polite and he did not want a pup, but he never would have gotten one either. I almost told him to get a great Pyrenees male of 150 pounds if he had coyotes.

There are no bobcats, lynx or cougars because people like you shot them all.

Actually there are bobcats where I live I've just never seen one. Rare and elusive.

Bobcats are not just a northern species, but live throughout the state of Michigan. They can even be found in the outskirts of large cities such as Detroit.

That's because the Canada Lynx is classified as a threatened species in Michigan with very few reported sighting over the last 40 years. Of these, most occurred in the Upper peninsula. In March of 2019 near Howell, MI the DNR actually live captured a lynx.

I live just south of Howell. So I'm sure there are Bobcat/Lynx in my woods. I would love to see one. I'm not really afraid of them like I am coyote. And I don't worry about the coyote going extinct they are thriving everywhere. I'd just like to chase them off my property up north. I hear them howling on the back of the property. It's scary. Even my dog looks concerned. To be honest? I think my dog might be afraid of coyote. He certainly didn't run off after them when he heard them howling.

I wouldn't shoot the bear that's on the property. But one day he might get me when I'm walking to my blind at 4:30am in the morning. I always say if I'm hunting and another animal gets me, I got what I deserved. Poetic justice. You can't go out killing deer and then cry if a bear kills you for food.

Do ya really think that a 14 inch tall 30lb dog might be afraid of a coyote? only if he is bright

 

[sealybobo]

Indeependent

Actually Since Floods leave scars on the Earth Surface that last well basically forever----------we can safely say that there never ever was a World Wide Flood as described in the Bible. NEVER happened. We also know through genetics and DNA----that one pair of animals would not be enough genetics to repopulate any species----well other than a virus maybe.

And what is "world wide", when you are a Neolithic people who never wandered more than two dozen miles from your home village?

Obviously, it is a flood that devastates everything in your region, because that is the "world" as far as you are concerned. If you live on that split of land between the Tigris and Euphrates rivers in 4,000 BCE and then everything as far as the eye can see is underwater, of course as far as you are concerned "the entire world flooded".

Obviously even trying to change your mindset to seeing things how people thousands of years ago viewed them is beyond your capability.

Excellent, see you are ok when not obsessed with fake trains

We are talking about evolution. What that has to do with trains, I have absolutely no idea.

There is no evolution between dogs and wolves as they are exactly the same species. That said I do like your baby gif, is that you or your Son?

Not true. Dogs are evolving too. Not into a new species at least not for a long time.

The dog, Canis familiaris, is a direct descendent of the gray wolf, Canis lupus: All modern dogs are descendants of wolves.

Now what about us? We are homo sapiens.

But humans are not descended from monkeys or any other primate living today. We do share a common ape ancestor with chimpanzees. It lived between 8 and 6 million years ago. But humans and chimpanzees evolved differently from that same ancestor.

Again dogs and wolves are exactly the same species,

Exactly?

and no breed of dog is evolved from the wolf, as no dog can exist in the wild.

(1) After an beagle had disappeared here in the near they found him 2 years later in the woods - he was very fat.

(2) If you say dogs are not able to survive but wolves are able to survive and you say the same time both are exactly the same species then something is wrong with this idea.

Sure some can but they rapidly either die with the survivors picking up wolf traits

The fact about a beagle even though they are great hunters is that they are short dogs with short legs meaning that they rarely catch anything on foot. The fact is that an eagle could choose to eat the beagle and not the other way around. Poor choice Fred as I owned a beagle once

Beagles can't catch a rabbit but I've seen my beagle kill a possum, water vole, muskrat, mole, mice, groundhog, etc.

Perhaps your beagle was a pussy? I had a pure bred blue tick beagle.

The blue tick beagle is a small hunting dog with a short coat that is partially mottled bluish-gray in color. It is a very friendly and intelligent breed that is often used for hunting rabbits and other small game.

Well your beagle is still a parasite that can not exist in the wild. People do not understand that wild dogs do not see breed, they just screw the bitch in heat irrespective of breed including wolves and coyotes. As such purebred dogs can never exist in the wild. LOL my 4 German Shorthairs could bite a bear on the ass and never be there when the bear turned around and run any beagle or bear to death.

PS Your tiny beagle will also not survive a northern winter in the woods, but since you live in the redneck shed.......Well u kno

PSS. One of my shorthairs actually handed my wife a rabbit once. Really

Today I have a PBGV. Somehow I got lucky when I found him because he's an amazing hunting dog. If I shoot a deer I go get him and show him where I shot the deer and in 1 minute he's on the deer trying to rip the hair off it's ass so he can get to the rump meat. It's like instinctively he does exactly what wolves would do. And when the dogs at the dog park pick on a dog he knows pack mentality so he joins the pack. That way he's never the one getting picked on.

He acts tough but as soon as the other dog shows their teeth, he becomes a pussy. So cute. I've even heard him yelp like a little girl before the dog even bit him. They just ran at him with their teeth showing and YELP! So cute. I love that little guy.

What's a PBGV?

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One day a raccoon was walking through the woods. He ran up and bit it in the neck and shook it but he doesn't have that powerful of a bite. So the raccoon was fine. It turned around and was going to fuck my dog up and I grabbed my dog by the body hair and picked him up like a pillow. The raccoon was clung to him and he was just about to start fucking up my dog and I shook the raccoon off. WHEW!

P.S. I was watching my favorite tv show mountain men. One of the guys dogs didn't come home. In the morning he found it dead. But it was 15 years old and it was winter. Heck, even coyote's and wolves have dens where they sleep and keep warm. I feel sorry for the lone wolf who gets kicked out of his pack and has to live on his own.

No German Shorthair owner has ever shown their partner where any animal live or dead was or is. So if you are showing your dog where a deer is, from a hunting standpoint you just have the wrong dog. The photo also looks like a cross between a bearded collie and a basset hound, now since the Basset comes from the Bloodhound their tracking abilities are there, but as you say the prey must already be dead as there are no legs. GSP's hunt, track, point and retrieve, the tracking can be scent or sight or both, they are legendary and if you ever get one they will teach you much because they are the teacher to inferior humans where hunting is concerned. Not sure if you are French but the French actually have their own GSP and they call it the Braque Francais because well they are French and can not admit that the German is the best of the best, always.

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I said I showed my dog where I shot the deer. He then picked up the blood trail and ran right to the deer. I actually had to wait because if the thing wasn't dead yet my dog would have made him get up and run further into the woods.

PBGV. Petite (small) Bassett Griffon Vendeen. Vendee is the town in France where the breed came from.

Again no GSP owner ever shows their GSP an animal or trail, really this happens the other way around as the GSP seems to know the unknowable and does not need the handler for anything. The fact is that GSP owners understand this and all others are wannabees including English Pointer owners who's doggies are afraid to get their feet wet. Again the best French hunter is the Braque Francais which is merely an unrefined GSP.

I was wondering what kind of dog does the guy on Mountain Men use for hunting mountain lions.

Blue tick coonhounds are the preferred choice for most, but black and tan hounds, leopard curs and redbone hounds are also used.

On Mountain men one guy uses Treeing Walker Coonhounds

It would never occur to me to even think about using a dog to trail a lion as the lion can just turn around and kill 6 dogs in rapid succession as a mountain lion can slap a dog and break it's spine instantly. Then again it would never occur to me to hunt something as beautiful as a mountain lion in the first place.

He doesn't shoot the lions. His dogs tree the lion, then he bangs the tree with a stick causing vibration and the cat jumps. The dogs sometimes scrap with the cat but it's 4 on 1 and yes the dogs are in danger and sometimes get scratched up or seriously hurt. But the cat runs further up the mountain. He may tree/chase the cat 2 or 3 times until it's far enough up the mountain and not going to come back for their livestock or elementary school kids. Yea a cat was seen near the school so they called him in to run it off.

We always joke that the reason he doesn't kill the cats is because they are his business. If he kills them he's out of a job. They'll be back. But at least he's instilling a fear of man and dogs in them. It's not worth coming to kill a human child, cat, dog, sheep or cow.

There ought to be a season for mountain lions to chase assholes, I would pay to watch

I can't believe there aren't any bobcats or lynx where I live. Lots of woods. They're up north Michigan. We must have killed them all off locally. Part of me is sad but then I don't like any creatures out there that can kill my dog. When it's not deer season I hunt coyote off the porch on my brothers 65 acres up north. I've seen and shot at two but never a good shot. Hopefully I scared them off. But I went out and got a night light that works great. So the next time I see a coyote at night I'll have them in my cross hairs. The last time I shined my light out in the field and there he was. So I grabbed my gun (without a night light) and I couldn't see a damn thing. So I flashed the light and saw him running away. I didn't have a light attached to my gun! Now I do.

There's a bear on the property too. Scary. Can't shoot them either.

I had an idiot come looking at a litter of pups here once. He said that he wanted a smaller female GSP and that he had no fence on his property and that he had coyotes there as well. I was polite and he did not want a pup, but he never would have gotten one either. I almost told him to get a great Pyrenees male of 150 pounds if he had coyotes.

There are no bobcats, lynx or cougars because people like you shot them all.

Actually there are bobcats where I live I've just never seen one. Rare and elusive.

Bobcats are not just a northern species, but live throughout the state of Michigan. They can even be found in the outskirts of large cities such as Detroit.

That's because the Canada Lynx is classified as a threatened species in Michigan with very few reported sighting over the last 40 years. Of these, most occurred in the Upper peninsula. In March of 2019 near Howell, MI the DNR actually live captured a lynx.

I live just south of Howell. So I'm sure there are Bobcat/Lynx in my woods. I would love to see one. I'm not really afraid of them like I am coyote. And I don't worry about the coyote going extinct they are thriving everywhere. I'd just like to chase them off my property up north. I hear them howling on the back of the property. It's scary. Even my dog looks concerned. To be honest? I think my dog might be afraid of coyote. He certainly didn't run off after them when he heard them howling.

I wouldn't shoot the bear that's on the property. But one day he might get me when I'm walking to my blind at 4:30am in the morning. I always say if I'm hunting and another animal gets me, I got what I deserved. Poetic justice. You can't go out killing deer and then cry if a bear kills you for food.

Do ya really think that a 14 inch tall 30lb dog might be afraid of a coyote? only if he is bright

If you look up my breed the small ones react first think later. The bigger ones think first then react.

Those foxes I saw came really close. The one time it seemed to know my dog was on a leash. Or was daring it to chase. I’ve read Fox have been seen playing with dogs.

 

[sealybobo]

Indeependent

Actually Since Floods leave scars on the Earth Surface that last well basically forever----------we can safely say that there never ever was a World Wide Flood as described in the Bible. NEVER happened. We also know through genetics and DNA----that one pair of animals would not be enough genetics to repopulate any species----well other than a virus maybe.

And what is "world wide", when you are a Neolithic people who never wandered more than two dozen miles from your home village?

Obviously, it is a flood that devastates everything in your region, because that is the "world" as far as you are concerned. If you live on that split of land between the Tigris and Euphrates rivers in 4,000 BCE and then everything as far as the eye can see is underwater, of course as far as you are concerned "the entire world flooded".

Obviously even trying to change your mindset to seeing things how people thousands of years ago viewed them is beyond your capability.

Excellent, see you are ok when not obsessed with fake trains

We are talking about evolution. What that has to do with trains, I have absolutely no idea.

There is no evolution between dogs and wolves as they are exactly the same species. That said I do like your baby gif, is that you or your Son?

Not true. Dogs are evolving too. Not into a new species at least not for a long time.

The dog, Canis familiaris, is a direct descendent of the gray wolf, Canis lupus: All modern dogs are descendants of wolves.

Now what about us? We are homo sapiens.

But humans are not descended from monkeys or any other primate living today. We do share a common ape ancestor with chimpanzees. It lived between 8 and 6 million years ago. But humans and chimpanzees evolved differently from that same ancestor.

Again dogs and wolves are exactly the same species,

Exactly?

and no breed of dog is evolved from the wolf, as no dog can exist in the wild.

(1) After an beagle had disappeared here in the near they found him 2 years later in the woods - he was very fat.

(2) If you say dogs are not able to survive but wolves are able to survive and you say the same time both are exactly the same species then something is wrong with this idea.

Sure some can but they rapidly either die with the survivors picking up wolf traits

The fact about a beagle even though they are great hunters is that they are short dogs with short legs meaning that they rarely catch anything on foot. The fact is that an eagle could choose to eat the beagle and not the other way around. Poor choice Fred as I owned a beagle once

Beagles can't catch a rabbit but I've seen my beagle kill a possum, water vole, muskrat, mole, mice, groundhog, etc.

Perhaps your beagle was a pussy? I had a pure bred blue tick beagle.

The blue tick beagle is a small hunting dog with a short coat that is partially mottled bluish-gray in color. It is a very friendly and intelligent breed that is often used for hunting rabbits and other small game.

Well your beagle is still a parasite that can not exist in the wild. People do not understand that wild dogs do not see breed, they just screw the bitch in heat irrespective of breed including wolves and coyotes. As such purebred dogs can never exist in the wild. LOL my 4 German Shorthairs could bite a bear on the ass and never be there when the bear turned around and run any beagle or bear to death.

PS Your tiny beagle will also not survive a northern winter in the woods, but since you live in the redneck shed.......Well u kno

PSS. One of my shorthairs actually handed my wife a rabbit once. Really

Today I have a PBGV. Somehow I got lucky when I found him because he's an amazing hunting dog. If I shoot a deer I go get him and show him where I shot the deer and in 1 minute he's on the deer trying to rip the hair off it's ass so he can get to the rump meat. It's like instinctively he does exactly what wolves would do. And when the dogs at the dog park pick on a dog he knows pack mentality so he joins the pack. That way he's never the one getting picked on.

He acts tough but as soon as the other dog shows their teeth, he becomes a pussy. So cute. I've even heard him yelp like a little girl before the dog even bit him. They just ran at him with their teeth showing and YELP! So cute. I love that little guy.

What's a PBGV?

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One day a raccoon was walking through the woods. He ran up and bit it in the neck and shook it but he doesn't have that powerful of a bite. So the raccoon was fine. It turned around and was going to fuck my dog up and I grabbed my dog by the body hair and picked him up like a pillow. The raccoon was clung to him and he was just about to start fucking up my dog and I shook the raccoon off. WHEW!

P.S. I was watching my favorite tv show mountain men. One of the guys dogs didn't come home. In the morning he found it dead. But it was 15 years old and it was winter. Heck, even coyote's and wolves have dens where they sleep and keep warm. I feel sorry for the lone wolf who gets kicked out of his pack and has to live on his own.

No German Shorthair owner has ever shown their partner where any animal live or dead was or is. So if you are showing your dog where a deer is, from a hunting standpoint you just have the wrong dog. The photo also looks like a cross between a bearded collie and a basset hound, now since the Basset comes from the Bloodhound their tracking abilities are there, but as you say the prey must already be dead as there are no legs. GSP's hunt, track, point and retrieve, the tracking can be scent or sight or both, they are legendary and if you ever get one they will teach you much because they are the teacher to inferior humans where hunting is concerned. Not sure if you are French but the French actually have their own GSP and they call it the Braque Francais because well they are French and can not admit that the German is the best of the best, always.

I have the same picture except my dogs led me to the kill and not the other way around

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I’m reading about your dog

GSPs are extremely versatile hunting dogs.​

Bred to be instinctive hunting all-rounders, these multitasking pups can hunt, point, and retrieve, and have been used to hunt quarry of all kinds, including rabbits, raccoons, game birds, and even deer.

 

[sealybobo]

Indeependent

Actually Since Floods leave scars on the Earth Surface that last well basically forever----------we can safely say that there never ever was a World Wide Flood as described in the Bible. NEVER happened. We also know through genetics and DNA----that one pair of animals would not be enough genetics to repopulate any species----well other than a virus maybe.

And what is "world wide", when you are a Neolithic people who never wandered more than two dozen miles from your home village?

Obviously, it is a flood that devastates everything in your region, because that is the "world" as far as you are concerned. If you live on that split of land between the Tigris and Euphrates rivers in 4,000 BCE and then everything as far as the eye can see is underwater, of course as far as you are concerned "the entire world flooded".

Obviously even trying to change your mindset to seeing things how people thousands of years ago viewed them is beyond your capability.

Excellent, see you are ok when not obsessed with fake trains

We are talking about evolution. What that has to do with trains, I have absolutely no idea.

There is no evolution between dogs and wolves as they are exactly the same species. That said I do like your baby gif, is that you or your Son?

Not true. Dogs are evolving too. Not into a new species at least not for a long time.

The dog, Canis familiaris, is a direct descendent of the gray wolf, Canis lupus: All modern dogs are descendants of wolves.

Now what about us? We are homo sapiens.

But humans are not descended from monkeys or any other primate living today. We do share a common ape ancestor with chimpanzees. It lived between 8 and 6 million years ago. But humans and chimpanzees evolved differently from that same ancestor.

Again dogs and wolves are exactly the same species,

Exactly?

and no breed of dog is evolved from the wolf, as no dog can exist in the wild.

(1) After an beagle had disappeared here in the near they found him 2 years later in the woods - he was very fat.

(2) If you say dogs are not able to survive but wolves are able to survive and you say the same time both are exactly the same species then something is wrong with this idea.

Sure some can but they rapidly either die with the survivors picking up wolf traits

The fact about a beagle even though they are great hunters is that they are short dogs with short legs meaning that they rarely catch anything on foot. The fact is that an eagle could choose to eat the beagle and not the other way around. Poor choice Fred as I owned a beagle once

Beagles can't catch a rabbit but I've seen my beagle kill a possum, water vole, muskrat, mole, mice, groundhog, etc.

Perhaps your beagle was a pussy? I had a pure bred blue tick beagle.

The blue tick beagle is a small hunting dog with a short coat that is partially mottled bluish-gray in color. It is a very friendly and intelligent breed that is often used for hunting rabbits and other small game.

Well your beagle is still a parasite that can not exist in the wild. People do not understand that wild dogs do not see breed, they just screw the bitch in heat irrespective of breed including wolves and coyotes. As such purebred dogs can never exist in the wild. LOL my 4 German Shorthairs could bite a bear on the ass and never be there when the bear turned around and run any beagle or bear to death.

PS Your tiny beagle will also not survive a northern winter in the woods, but since you live in the redneck shed.......Well u kno

PSS. One of my shorthairs actually handed my wife a rabbit once. Really

Today I have a PBGV. Somehow I got lucky when I found him because he's an amazing hunting dog. If I shoot a deer I go get him and show him where I shot the deer and in 1 minute he's on the deer trying to rip the hair off it's ass so he can get to the rump meat. It's like instinctively he does exactly what wolves would do. And when the dogs at the dog park pick on a dog he knows pack mentality so he joins the pack. That way he's never the one getting picked on.

He acts tough but as soon as the other dog shows their teeth, he becomes a pussy. So cute. I've even heard him yelp like a little girl before the dog even bit him. They just ran at him with their teeth showing and YELP! So cute. I love that little guy.

What's a PBGV?

View attachment 507656

One day a raccoon was walking through the woods. He ran up and bit it in the neck and shook it but he doesn't have that powerful of a bite. So the raccoon was fine. It turned around and was going to fuck my dog up and I grabbed my dog by the body hair and picked him up like a pillow. The raccoon was clung to him and he was just about to start fucking up my dog and I shook the raccoon off. WHEW!

P.S. I was watching my favorite tv show mountain men. One of the guys dogs didn't come home. In the morning he found it dead. But it was 15 years old and it was winter. Heck, even coyote's and wolves have dens where they sleep and keep warm. I feel sorry for the lone wolf who gets kicked out of his pack and has to live on his own.

No German Shorthair owner has ever shown their partner where any animal live or dead was or is. So if you are showing your dog where a deer is, from a hunting standpoint you just have the wrong dog. The photo also looks like a cross between a bearded collie and a basset hound, now since the Basset comes from the Bloodhound their tracking abilities are there, but as you say the prey must already be dead as there are no legs. GSP's hunt, track, point and retrieve, the tracking can be scent or sight or both, they are legendary and if you ever get one they will teach you much because they are the teacher to inferior humans where hunting is concerned. Not sure if you are French but the French actually have their own GSP and they call it the Braque Francais because well they are French and can not admit that the German is the best of the best, always.

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I said I showed my dog where I shot the deer. He then picked up the blood trail and ran right to the deer. I actually had to wait because if the thing wasn't dead yet my dog would have made him get up and run further into the woods.

PBGV. Petite (small) Bassett Griffon Vendeen. Vendee is the town in France where the breed came from.

Again no GSP owner ever shows their GSP an animal or trail, really this happens the other way around as the GSP seems to know the unknowable and does not need the handler for anything. The fact is that GSP owners understand this and all others are wannabees including English Pointer owners who's doggies are afraid to get their feet wet. Again the best French hunter is the Braque Francais which is merely an unrefined GSP.

I was wondering what kind of dog does the guy on Mountain Men use for hunting mountain lions.

Blue tick coonhounds are the preferred choice for most, but black and tan hounds, leopard curs and redbone hounds are also used.

On Mountain men one guy uses Treeing Walker Coonhounds

It would never occur to me to even think about using a dog to trail a lion as the lion can just turn around and kill 6 dogs in rapid succession as a mountain lion can slap a dog and break it's spine instantly. Then again it would never occur to me to hunt something as beautiful as a mountain lion in the first place.

He doesn't shoot the lions. His dogs tree the lion, then he bangs the tree with a stick causing vibration and the cat jumps. The dogs sometimes scrap with the cat but it's 4 on 1 and yes the dogs are in danger and sometimes get scratched up or seriously hurt. But the cat runs further up the mountain. He may tree/chase the cat 2 or 3 times until it's far enough up the mountain and not going to come back for their livestock or elementary school kids. Yea a cat was seen near the school so they called him in to run it off.

We always joke that the reason he doesn't kill the cats is because they are his business. If he kills them he's out of a job. They'll be back. But at least he's instilling a fear of man and dogs in them. It's not worth coming to kill a human child, cat, dog, sheep or cow.

There ought to be a season for mountain lions to chase assholes, I would pay to watch

I can't believe there aren't any bobcats or lynx where I live. Lots of woods. They're up north Michigan. We must have killed them all off locally. Part of me is sad but then I don't like any creatures out there that can kill my dog. When it's not deer season I hunt coyote off the porch on my brothers 65 acres up north. I've seen and shot at two but never a good shot. Hopefully I scared them off. But I went out and got a night light that works great. So the next time I see a coyote at night I'll have them in my cross hairs. The last time I shined my light out in the field and there he was. So I grabbed my gun (without a night light) and I couldn't see a damn thing. So I flashed the light and saw him running away. I didn't have a light attached to my gun! Now I do.

There's a bear on the property too. Scary. Can't shoot them either.

I had an idiot come looking at a litter of pups here once. He said that he wanted a smaller female GSP and that he had no fence on his property and that he had coyotes there as well. I was polite and he did not want a pup, but he never would have gotten one either. I almost told him to get a great Pyrenees male of 150 pounds if he had coyotes.

There are no bobcats, lynx or cougars because people like you shot them all.

Actually there are bobcats where I live I've just never seen one. Rare and elusive.

Bobcats are not just a northern species, but live throughout the state of Michigan. They can even be found in the outskirts of large cities such as Detroit.

That's because the Canada Lynx is classified as a threatened species in Michigan with very few reported sighting over the last 40 years. Of these, most occurred in the Upper peninsula. In March of 2019 near Howell, MI the DNR actually live captured a lynx.

I live just south of Howell. So I'm sure there are Bobcat/Lynx in my woods. I would love to see one. I'm not really afraid of them like I am coyote. And I don't worry about the coyote going extinct they are thriving everywhere. I'd just like to chase them off my property up north. I hear them howling on the back of the property. It's scary. Even my dog looks concerned. To be honest? I think my dog might be afraid of coyote. He certainly didn't run off after them when he heard them howling.

I wouldn't shoot the bear that's on the property. But one day he might get me when I'm walking to my blind at 4:30am in the morning. I always say if I'm hunting and another animal gets me, I got what I deserved. Poetic justice. You can't go out killing deer and then cry if a bear kills you for food.

Do ya really think that a 14 inch tall 30lb dog might be afraid of a coyote? only if he is bright

You should see the move this little guy makes at the dog park. He comes up hard and fast and he lunges for their neck. Does it to some pretty big dogs. Has almost gotten fucked up a few times messing with the wrong lab or tall poodle. He is all talk so not sure why he talks so much shit. Like his daddy?

 

[zaangalewa]

Indeependent

Actually Since Floods leave scars on the Earth Surface that last well basically forever----------we can safely say that there never ever was a World Wide Flood as described in the Bible. NEVER happened. We also know through genetics and DNA----that one pair of animals would not be enough genetics to repopulate any species----well other than a virus maybe.

And what is "world wide", when you are a Neolithic people who never wandered more than two dozen miles from your home village?

Obviously, it is a flood that devastates everything in your region, because that is the "world" as far as you are concerned. If you live on that split of land between the Tigris and Euphrates rivers in 4,000 BCE and then everything as far as the eye can see is underwater, of course as far as you are concerned "the entire world flooded".

Obviously even trying to change your mindset to seeing things how people thousands of years ago viewed them is beyond your capability.

Excellent, see you are ok when not obsessed with fake trains

We are talking about evolution. What that has to do with trains, I have absolutely no idea.

There is no evolution between dogs and wolves as they are exactly the same species. That said I do like your baby gif, is that you or your Son?

Not true. Dogs are evolving too. Not into a new species at least not for a long time.

The dog, Canis familiaris, is a direct descendent of the gray wolf, Canis lupus: All modern dogs are descendants of wolves.

Now what about us? We are homo sapiens.

But humans are not descended from monkeys or any other primate living today. We do share a common ape ancestor with chimpanzees. It lived between 8 and 6 million years ago. But humans and chimpanzees evolved differently from that same ancestor.

Again dogs and wolves are exactly the same species,

Exactly?

and no breed of dog is evolved from the wolf, as no dog can exist in the wild.

(1) After an beagle had disappeared here in the near they found him 2 years later in the woods - he was very fat.

(2) If you say dogs are not able to survive but wolves are able to survive and you say the same time both are exactly the same species then something is wrong with this idea.

Sure some can but they rapidly either die with the survivors picking up wolf traits

The fact about a beagle even though they are great hunters is that they are short dogs with short legs meaning that they rarely catch anything on foot. The fact is that an eagle could choose to eat the beagle and not the other way around. Poor choice Fred as I owned a beagle once

But he/she/it - however you say in your language - survived 2 years in the woods and was fat. Why and how no one knows.

 

[Dusty]

Indeependent

Actually Since Floods leave scars on the Earth Surface that last well basically forever----------we can safely say that there never ever was a World Wide Flood as described in the Bible. NEVER happened. We also know through genetics and DNA----that one pair of animals would not be enough genetics to repopulate any species----well other than a virus maybe.

And what is "world wide", when you are a Neolithic people who never wandered more than two dozen miles from your home village?

Obviously, it is a flood that devastates everything in your region, because that is the "world" as far as you are concerned. If you live on that split of land between the Tigris and Euphrates rivers in 4,000 BCE and then everything as far as the eye can see is underwater, of course as far as you are concerned "the entire world flooded".

Obviously even trying to change your mindset to seeing things how people thousands of years ago viewed them is beyond your capability.

Excellent, see you are ok when not obsessed with fake trains

We are talking about evolution. What that has to do with trains, I have absolutely no idea.

There is no evolution between dogs and wolves as they are exactly the same species. That said I do like your baby gif, is that you or your Son?

Not true. Dogs are evolving too. Not into a new species at least not for a long time.

The dog, Canis familiaris, is a direct descendent of the gray wolf, Canis lupus: All modern dogs are descendants of wolves.

Now what about us? We are homo sapiens.

But humans are not descended from monkeys or any other primate living today. We do share a common ape ancestor with chimpanzees. It lived between 8 and 6 million years ago. But humans and chimpanzees evolved differently from that same ancestor.

Again dogs and wolves are exactly the same species,

Exactly?

and no breed of dog is evolved from the wolf, as no dog can exist in the wild.

(1) After an beagle had disappeared here in the near they found him 2 years later in the woods - he was very fat.

(2) If you say dogs are not able to survive but wolves are able to survive and you say the same time both are exactly the same species then something is wrong with this idea.

Sure some can but they rapidly either die with the survivors picking up wolf traits

The fact about a beagle even though they are great hunters is that they are short dogs with short legs meaning that they rarely catch anything on foot. The fact is that an eagle could choose to eat the beagle and not the other way around. Poor choice Fred as I owned a beagle once

Beagles can't catch a rabbit but I've seen my beagle kill a possum, water vole, muskrat, mole, mice, groundhog, etc.

Perhaps your beagle was a pussy? I had a pure bred blue tick beagle.

The blue tick beagle is a small hunting dog with a short coat that is partially mottled bluish-gray in color. It is a very friendly and intelligent breed that is often used for hunting rabbits and other small game.

Well your beagle is still a parasite that can not exist in the wild. People do not understand that wild dogs do not see breed, they just screw the bitch in heat irrespective of breed including wolves and coyotes. As such purebred dogs can never exist in the wild. LOL my 4 German Shorthairs could bite a bear on the ass and never be there when the bear turned around and run any beagle or bear to death.

PS Your tiny beagle will also not survive a northern winter in the woods, but since you live in the redneck shed.......Well u kno

PSS. One of my shorthairs actually handed my wife a rabbit once. Really

Today I have a PBGV. Somehow I got lucky when I found him because he's an amazing hunting dog. If I shoot a deer I go get him and show him where I shot the deer and in 1 minute he's on the deer trying to rip the hair off it's ass so he can get to the rump meat. It's like instinctively he does exactly what wolves would do. And when the dogs at the dog park pick on a dog he knows pack mentality so he joins the pack. That way he's never the one getting picked on.

He acts tough but as soon as the other dog shows their teeth, he becomes a pussy. So cute. I've even heard him yelp like a little girl before the dog even bit him. They just ran at him with their teeth showing and YELP! So cute. I love that little guy.

What's a PBGV?

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One day a raccoon was walking through the woods. He ran up and bit it in the neck and shook it but he doesn't have that powerful of a bite. So the raccoon was fine. It turned around and was going to fuck my dog up and I grabbed my dog by the body hair and picked him up like a pillow. The raccoon was clung to him and he was just about to start fucking up my dog and I shook the raccoon off. WHEW!

P.S. I was watching my favorite tv show mountain men. One of the guys dogs didn't come home. In the morning he found it dead. But it was 15 years old and it was winter. Heck, even coyote's and wolves have dens where they sleep and keep warm. I feel sorry for the lone wolf who gets kicked out of his pack and has to live on his own.

No German Shorthair owner has ever shown their partner where any animal live or dead was or is. So if you are showing your dog where a deer is, from a hunting standpoint you just have the wrong dog. The photo also looks like a cross between a bearded collie and a basset hound, now since the Basset comes from the Bloodhound their tracking abilities are there, but as you say the prey must already be dead as there are no legs. GSP's hunt, track, point and retrieve, the tracking can be scent or sight or both, they are legendary and if you ever get one they will teach you much because they are the teacher to inferior humans where hunting is concerned. Not sure if you are French but the French actually have their own GSP and they call it the Braque Francais because well they are French and can not admit that the German is the best of the best, always.

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I said I showed my dog where I shot the deer. He then picked up the blood trail and ran right to the deer. I actually had to wait because if the thing wasn't dead yet my dog would have made him get up and run further into the woods.

PBGV. Petite (small) Bassett Griffon Vendeen. Vendee is the town in France where the breed came from.

Again no GSP owner ever shows their GSP an animal or trail, really this happens the other way around as the GSP seems to know the unknowable and does not need the handler for anything. The fact is that GSP owners understand this and all others are wannabees including English Pointer owners who's doggies are afraid to get their feet wet. Again the best French hunter is the Braque Francais which is merely an unrefined GSP.

I was wondering what kind of dog does the guy on Mountain Men use for hunting mountain lions.

Blue tick coonhounds are the preferred choice for most, but black and tan hounds, leopard curs and redbone hounds are also used.

On Mountain men one guy uses Treeing Walker Coonhounds

It would never occur to me to even think about using a dog to trail a lion as the lion can just turn around and kill 6 dogs in rapid succession as a mountain lion can slap a dog and break it's spine instantly. Then again it would never occur to me to hunt something as beautiful as a mountain lion in the first place.

He doesn't shoot the lions. His dogs tree the lion, then he bangs the tree with a stick causing vibration and the cat jumps. The dogs sometimes scrap with the cat but it's 4 on 1 and yes the dogs are in danger and sometimes get scratched up or seriously hurt. But the cat runs further up the mountain. He may tree/chase the cat 2 or 3 times until it's far enough up the mountain and not going to come back for their livestock or elementary school kids. Yea a cat was seen near the school so they called him in to run it off.

We always joke that the reason he doesn't kill the cats is because they are his business. If he kills them he's out of a job. They'll be back. But at least he's instilling a fear of man and dogs in them. It's not worth coming to kill a human child, cat, dog, sheep or cow.

There ought to be a season for mountain lions to chase assholes, I would pay to watch

I can't believe there aren't any bobcats or lynx where I live. Lots of woods. They're up north Michigan. We must have killed them all off locally. Part of me is sad but then I don't like any creatures out there that can kill my dog. When it's not deer season I hunt coyote off the porch on my brothers 65 acres up north. I've seen and shot at two but never a good shot. Hopefully I scared them off. But I went out and got a night light that works great. So the next time I see a coyote at night I'll have them in my cross hairs. The last time I shined my light out in the field and there he was. So I grabbed my gun (without a night light) and I couldn't see a damn thing. So I flashed the light and saw him running away. I didn't have a light attached to my gun! Now I do.

There's a bear on the property too. Scary. Can't shoot them either.

I had an idiot come looking at a litter of pups here once. He said that he wanted a smaller female GSP and that he had no fence on his property and that he had coyotes there as well. I was polite and he did not want a pup, but he never would have gotten one either. I almost told him to get a great Pyrenees male of 150 pounds if he had coyotes.

There are no bobcats, lynx or cougars because people like you shot them all.

Actually there are bobcats where I live I've just never seen one. Rare and elusive.

Bobcats are not just a northern species, but live throughout the state of Michigan. They can even be found in the outskirts of large cities such as Detroit.

That's because the Canada Lynx is classified as a threatened species in Michigan with very few reported sighting over the last 40 years. Of these, most occurred in the Upper peninsula. In March of 2019 near Howell, MI the DNR actually live captured a lynx.

I live just south of Howell. So I'm sure there are Bobcat/Lynx in my woods. I would love to see one. I'm not really afraid of them like I am coyote. And I don't worry about the coyote going extinct they are thriving everywhere. I'd just like to chase them off my property up north. I hear them howling on the back of the property. It's scary. Even my dog looks concerned. To be honest? I think my dog might be afraid of coyote. He certainly didn't run off after them when he heard them howling.

I wouldn't shoot the bear that's on the property. But one day he might get me when I'm walking to my blind at 4:30am in the morning. I always say if I'm hunting and another animal gets me, I got what I deserved. Poetic justice. You can't go out killing deer and then cry if a bear kills you for food.

Do ya really think that a 14 inch tall 30lb dog might be afraid of a coyote? only if he is bright

If you look up my breed the small ones react first think later. The bigger ones think first then react.

Those foxes I saw came really close. The one time it seemed to know my dog was on a leash. Or was daring it to chase. I’ve read Fox have been seen playing with dogs.

No fox would ever approach a GSP, even a hundred foxes together would not approach a GSP as foxes know better. Look I do not want to put your dog down as all dogs are great, but you do not have a hunting dog, dachshunds are classified as hunting dogs, it's hysterical. Morons claim that ridgebacks hunt African Lions, so is there video. You claim that your little pooch runs away from a fox then claim that it attacks and kills possums, well I have seen possums that look like they would eat a fox if they were hungry with no exaggeration. A typical GSP is untrainable, from the viewpoint that a trainer can not train what the pup already knows and a GSP knows everything including how to handle live tracking situations with an animal that it has never tracked before. You never having had a GSP can not know this. I have owned GSP,s since 1993 and still see my pups do things that violate rationale.

 

[Dusty]

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Actually Since Floods leave scars on the Earth Surface that last well basically forever----------we can safely say that there never ever was a World Wide Flood as described in the Bible. NEVER happened. We also know through genetics and DNA----that one pair of animals would not be enough genetics to repopulate any species----well other than a virus maybe.

And what is "world wide", when you are a Neolithic people who never wandered more than two dozen miles from your home village?

Obviously, it is a flood that devastates everything in your region, because that is the "world" as far as you are concerned. If you live on that split of land between the Tigris and Euphrates rivers in 4,000 BCE and then everything as far as the eye can see is underwater, of course as far as you are concerned "the entire world flooded".

Obviously even trying to change your mindset to seeing things how people thousands of years ago viewed them is beyond your capability.

Excellent, see you are ok when not obsessed with fake trains

We are talking about evolution. What that has to do with trains, I have absolutely no idea.

There is no evolution between dogs and wolves as they are exactly the same species. That said I do like your baby gif, is that you or your Son?

Not true. Dogs are evolving too. Not into a new species at least not for a long time.

The dog, Canis familiaris, is a direct descendent of the gray wolf, Canis lupus: All modern dogs are descendants of wolves.

Now what about us? We are homo sapiens.

But humans are not descended from monkeys or any other primate living today. We do share a common ape ancestor with chimpanzees. It lived between 8 and 6 million years ago. But humans and chimpanzees evolved differently from that same ancestor.

Again dogs and wolves are exactly the same species,

Exactly?

and no breed of dog is evolved from the wolf, as no dog can exist in the wild.

(1) After an beagle had disappeared here in the near they found him 2 years later in the woods - he was very fat.

(2) If you say dogs are not able to survive but wolves are able to survive and you say the same time both are exactly the same species then something is wrong with this idea.

Sure some can but they rapidly either die with the survivors picking up wolf traits

The fact about a beagle even though they are great hunters is that they are short dogs with short legs meaning that they rarely catch anything on foot. The fact is that an eagle could choose to eat the beagle and not the other way around. Poor choice Fred as I owned a beagle once

But he/she/it - however you say in your language - survived 2 years in the woods and was fat. Why and how no one knows.

Because someone else was feeding the dog, so you may not know but I do. No one saw the dog living in the woods for 2 years, this is one of those feel good BS stories.

 

[Dusty]

Indeependent

Actually Since Floods leave scars on the Earth Surface that last well basically forever----------we can safely say that there never ever was a World Wide Flood as described in the Bible. NEVER happened. We also know through genetics and DNA----that one pair of animals would not be enough genetics to repopulate any species----well other than a virus maybe.

And what is "world wide", when you are a Neolithic people who never wandered more than two dozen miles from your home village?

Obviously, it is a flood that devastates everything in your region, because that is the "world" as far as you are concerned. If you live on that split of land between the Tigris and Euphrates rivers in 4,000 BCE and then everything as far as the eye can see is underwater, of course as far as you are concerned "the entire world flooded".

Obviously even trying to change your mindset to seeing things how people thousands of years ago viewed them is beyond your capability.

Excellent, see you are ok when not obsessed with fake trains

We are talking about evolution. What that has to do with trains, I have absolutely no idea.

There is no evolution between dogs and wolves as they are exactly the same species. That said I do like your baby gif, is that you or your Son?

Not true. Dogs are evolving too. Not into a new species at least not for a long time.

The dog, Canis familiaris, is a direct descendent of the gray wolf, Canis lupus: All modern dogs are descendants of wolves.

Now what about us? We are homo sapiens.

But humans are not descended from monkeys or any other primate living today. We do share a common ape ancestor with chimpanzees. It lived between 8 and 6 million years ago. But humans and chimpanzees evolved differently from that same ancestor.

Again dogs and wolves are exactly the same species,

Exactly?

and no breed of dog is evolved from the wolf, as no dog can exist in the wild.

(1) After an beagle had disappeared here in the near they found him 2 years later in the woods - he was very fat.

(2) If you say dogs are not able to survive but wolves are able to survive and you say the same time both are exactly the same species then something is wrong with this idea.

Sure some can but they rapidly either die with the survivors picking up wolf traits

The fact about a beagle even though they are great hunters is that they are short dogs with short legs meaning that they rarely catch anything on foot. The fact is that an eagle could choose to eat the beagle and not the other way around. Poor choice Fred as I owned a beagle once

Beagles can't catch a rabbit but I've seen my beagle kill a possum, water vole, muskrat, mole, mice, groundhog, etc.

Perhaps your beagle was a pussy? I had a pure bred blue tick beagle.

The blue tick beagle is a small hunting dog with a short coat that is partially mottled bluish-gray in color. It is a very friendly and intelligent breed that is often used for hunting rabbits and other small game.

Well your beagle is still a parasite that can not exist in the wild. People do not understand that wild dogs do not see breed, they just screw the bitch in heat irrespective of breed including wolves and coyotes. As such purebred dogs can never exist in the wild. LOL my 4 German Shorthairs could bite a bear on the ass and never be there when the bear turned around and run any beagle or bear to death.

PS Your tiny beagle will also not survive a northern winter in the woods, but since you live in the redneck shed.......Well u kno

PSS. One of my shorthairs actually handed my wife a rabbit once. Really

Today I have a PBGV. Somehow I got lucky when I found him because he's an amazing hunting dog. If I shoot a deer I go get him and show him where I shot the deer and in 1 minute he's on the deer trying to rip the hair off it's ass so he can get to the rump meat. It's like instinctively he does exactly what wolves would do. And when the dogs at the dog park pick on a dog he knows pack mentality so he joins the pack. That way he's never the one getting picked on.

He acts tough but as soon as the other dog shows their teeth, he becomes a pussy. So cute. I've even heard him yelp like a little girl before the dog even bit him. They just ran at him with their teeth showing and YELP! So cute. I love that little guy.

What's a PBGV?

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One day a raccoon was walking through the woods. He ran up and bit it in the neck and shook it but he doesn't have that powerful of a bite. So the raccoon was fine. It turned around and was going to fuck my dog up and I grabbed my dog by the body hair and picked him up like a pillow. The raccoon was clung to him and he was just about to start fucking up my dog and I shook the raccoon off. WHEW!

P.S. I was watching my favorite tv show mountain men. One of the guys dogs didn't come home. In the morning he found it dead. But it was 15 years old and it was winter. Heck, even coyote's and wolves have dens where they sleep and keep warm. I feel sorry for the lone wolf who gets kicked out of his pack and has to live on his own.

No German Shorthair owner has ever shown their partner where any animal live or dead was or is. So if you are showing your dog where a deer is, from a hunting standpoint you just have the wrong dog. The photo also looks like a cross between a bearded collie and a basset hound, now since the Basset comes from the Bloodhound their tracking abilities are there, but as you say the prey must already be dead as there are no legs. GSP's hunt, track, point and retrieve, the tracking can be scent or sight or both, they are legendary and if you ever get one they will teach you much because they are the teacher to inferior humans where hunting is concerned. Not sure if you are French but the French actually have their own GSP and they call it the Braque Francais because well they are French and can not admit that the German is the best of the best, always.

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I said I showed my dog where I shot the deer. He then picked up the blood trail and ran right to the deer. I actually had to wait because if the thing wasn't dead yet my dog would have made him get up and run further into the woods.

PBGV. Petite (small) Bassett Griffon Vendeen. Vendee is the town in France where the breed came from.

Again no GSP owner ever shows their GSP an animal or trail, really this happens the other way around as the GSP seems to know the unknowable and does not need the handler for anything. The fact is that GSP owners understand this and all others are wannabees including English Pointer owners who's doggies are afraid to get their feet wet. Again the best French hunter is the Braque Francais which is merely an unrefined GSP.

I was wondering what kind of dog does the guy on Mountain Men use for hunting mountain lions.

Blue tick coonhounds are the preferred choice for most, but black and tan hounds, leopard curs and redbone hounds are also used.

On Mountain men one guy uses Treeing Walker Coonhounds

It would never occur to me to even think about using a dog to trail a lion as the lion can just turn around and kill 6 dogs in rapid succession as a mountain lion can slap a dog and break it's spine instantly. Then again it would never occur to me to hunt something as beautiful as a mountain lion in the first place.

He doesn't shoot the lions. His dogs tree the lion, then he bangs the tree with a stick causing vibration and the cat jumps. The dogs sometimes scrap with the cat but it's 4 on 1 and yes the dogs are in danger and sometimes get scratched up or seriously hurt. But the cat runs further up the mountain. He may tree/chase the cat 2 or 3 times until it's far enough up the mountain and not going to come back for their livestock or elementary school kids. Yea a cat was seen near the school so they called him in to run it off.

We always joke that the reason he doesn't kill the cats is because they are his business. If he kills them he's out of a job. They'll be back. But at least he's instilling a fear of man and dogs in them. It's not worth coming to kill a human child, cat, dog, sheep or cow.

There ought to be a season for mountain lions to chase assholes, I would pay to watch

I can't believe there aren't any bobcats or lynx where I live. Lots of woods. They're up north Michigan. We must have killed them all off locally. Part of me is sad but then I don't like any creatures out there that can kill my dog. When it's not deer season I hunt coyote off the porch on my brothers 65 acres up north. I've seen and shot at two but never a good shot. Hopefully I scared them off. But I went out and got a night light that works great. So the next time I see a coyote at night I'll have them in my cross hairs. The last time I shined my light out in the field and there he was. So I grabbed my gun (without a night light) and I couldn't see a damn thing. So I flashed the light and saw him running away. I didn't have a light attached to my gun! Now I do.

There's a bear on the property too. Scary. Can't shoot them either.

I had an idiot come looking at a litter of pups here once. He said that he wanted a smaller female GSP and that he had no fence on his property and that he had coyotes there as well. I was polite and he did not want a pup, but he never would have gotten one either. I almost told him to get a great Pyrenees male of 150 pounds if he had coyotes.

There are no bobcats, lynx or cougars because people like you shot them all.

Actually there are bobcats where I live I've just never seen one. Rare and elusive.

Bobcats are not just a northern species, but live throughout the state of Michigan. They can even be found in the outskirts of large cities such as Detroit.

That's because the Canada Lynx is classified as a threatened species in Michigan with very few reported sighting over the last 40 years. Of these, most occurred in the Upper peninsula. In March of 2019 near Howell, MI the DNR actually live captured a lynx.

I live just south of Howell. So I'm sure there are Bobcat/Lynx in my woods. I would love to see one. I'm not really afraid of them like I am coyote. And I don't worry about the coyote going extinct they are thriving everywhere. I'd just like to chase them off my property up north. I hear them howling on the back of the property. It's scary. Even my dog looks concerned. To be honest? I think my dog might be afraid of coyote. He certainly didn't run off after them when he heard them howling.

I wouldn't shoot the bear that's on the property. But one day he might get me when I'm walking to my blind at 4:30am in the morning. I always say if I'm hunting and another animal gets me, I got what I deserved. Poetic justice. You can't go out killing deer and then cry if a bear kills you for food.

Do ya really think that a 14 inch tall 30lb dog might be afraid of a coyote? only if he is bright

You should see the move this little guy makes at the dog park. He comes up hard and fast and he lunges for their neck. Does it to some pretty big dogs. Has almost gotten fucked up a few times messing with the wrong lab or tall poodle. He is all talk so not sure why he talks so much shit. Like his daddy?

Your little dog lunges at big dogs because it is scared and can not deal with situation without panicking, a good breeder would neuter a dog like yours. That said you are actually bragging that you let the little pooch run free at the doggie park with the Poodles and Pekinese, and that it runs away from foxes. You have never seen a dog hunt until you have followed a GSP

 

[zaangalewa]

Indeependent

Actually Since Floods leave scars on the Earth Surface that last well basically forever----------we can safely say that there never ever was a World Wide Flood as described in the Bible. NEVER happened. We also know through genetics and DNA----that one pair of animals would not be enough genetics to repopulate any species----well other than a virus maybe.

And what is "world wide", when you are a Neolithic people who never wandered more than two dozen miles from your home village?

Obviously, it is a flood that devastates everything in your region, because that is the "world" as far as you are concerned. If you live on that split of land between the Tigris and Euphrates rivers in 4,000 BCE and then everything as far as the eye can see is underwater, of course as far as you are concerned "the entire world flooded".

Obviously even trying to change your mindset to seeing things how people thousands of years ago viewed them is beyond your capability.

Excellent, see you are ok when not obsessed with fake trains

We are talking about evolution. What that has to do with trains, I have absolutely no idea.

There is no evolution between dogs and wolves as they are exactly the same species. That said I do like your baby gif, is that you or your Son?

Not true. Dogs are evolving too. Not into a new species at least not for a long time.

The dog, Canis familiaris, is a direct descendent of the gray wolf, Canis lupus: All modern dogs are descendants of wolves.

Now what about us? We are homo sapiens.

But humans are not descended from monkeys or any other primate living today. We do share a common ape ancestor with chimpanzees. It lived between 8 and 6 million years ago. But humans and chimpanzees evolved differently from that same ancestor.

Again dogs and wolves are exactly the same species,

Exactly?

and no breed of dog is evolved from the wolf, as no dog can exist in the wild.

(1) After an beagle had disappeared here in the near they found him 2 years later in the woods - he was very fat.

(2) If you say dogs are not able to survive but wolves are able to survive and you say the same time both are exactly the same species then something is wrong with this idea.

Sure some can but they rapidly either die with the survivors picking up wolf traits

The fact about a beagle even though they are great hunters is that they are short dogs with short legs meaning that they rarely catch anything on foot. The fact is that an eagle could choose to eat the beagle and not the other way around. Poor choice Fred as I owned a beagle once

But he/she/it - however you say in your language - survived 2 years in the woods and was fat. Why and how no one knows.

Because someone else was feeding the dog,

You are not able to know what had happened - but you know what had happened. Typical for US-Americans.

so you may not know but I do.

Sure, god.

No one saw the dog living in the woods for 2 years,

So he was not alive in this two years?

this is one of those feel good BS stories.

Or not. Whatever. You still say dogs and wolves are exactly the same but dogs are not able to survive while wolves are able to survive. To say so means exactly it is nonsense to say so. And another problem if you say so: It exist about 300,000,000 dogs on this planet - but only 150,000-200,000 wolves. I guess the 300 millions do not really survive, while only the 150-200 thousand really survive. Whatever "really" could be.

 

[zaangalewa]

Indeependent

Actually Since Floods leave scars on the Earth Surface that last well basically forever----------we can safely say that there never ever was a World Wide Flood as described in the Bible. NEVER happened. We also know through genetics and DNA----that one pair of animals would not be enough genetics to repopulate any species----well other than a virus maybe.

And what is "world wide", when you are a Neolithic people who never wandered more than two dozen miles from your home village?

Obviously, it is a flood that devastates everything in your region, because that is the "world" as far as you are concerned. If you live on that split of land between the Tigris and Euphrates rivers in 4,000 BCE and then everything as far as the eye can see is underwater, of course as far as you are concerned "the entire world flooded".

Obviously even trying to change your mindset to seeing things how people thousands of years ago viewed them is beyond your capability.

Excellent, see you are ok when not obsessed with fake trains

We are talking about evolution. What that has to do with trains, I have absolutely no idea.

There is no evolution between dogs and wolves as they are exactly the same species. That said I do like your baby gif, is that you or your Son?

Not true. Dogs are evolving too. Not into a new species at least not for a long time.

The dog, Canis familiaris, is a direct descendent of the gray wolf, Canis lupus: All modern dogs are descendants of wolves.

Now what about us? We are homo sapiens.

But humans are not descended from monkeys or any other primate living today. We do share a common ape ancestor with chimpanzees. It lived between 8 and 6 million years ago. But humans and chimpanzees evolved differently from that same ancestor.

Again dogs and wolves are exactly the same species,

Exactly?

and no breed of dog is evolved from the wolf, as no dog can exist in the wild.

(1) After an beagle had disappeared here in the near they found him 2 years later in the woods - he was very fat.

(2) If you say dogs are not able to survive but wolves are able to survive and you say the same time both are exactly the same species then something is wrong with this idea.

Sure some can but they rapidly either die with the survivors picking up wolf traits

The fact about a beagle even though they are great hunters is that they are short dogs with short legs meaning that they rarely catch anything on foot. The fact is that an eagle could choose to eat the beagle and not the other way around. Poor choice Fred as I owned a beagle once

Beagles can't catch a rabbit but I've seen my beagle kill a possum, water vole, muskrat, mole, mice, groundhog, etc.

Perhaps your beagle was a pussy? I had a pure bred blue tick beagle.

The blue tick beagle is a small hunting dog with a short coat that is partially mottled bluish-gray in color. It is a very friendly and intelligent breed that is often used for hunting rabbits and other small game.

Well your beagle is still a parasite that can not exist in the wild. People do not understand that wild dogs do not see breed, they just screw the bitch in heat irrespective of breed including wolves and coyotes. As such purebred dogs can never exist in the wild. LOL my 4 German Shorthairs could bite a bear on the ass and never be there when the bear turned around and run any beagle or bear to death.

PS Your tiny beagle will also not survive a northern winter in the woods, but since you live in the redneck shed.......Well u kno

PSS. One of my shorthairs actually handed my wife a rabbit once. Really

Today I have a PBGV. Somehow I got lucky when I found him because he's an amazing hunting dog. If I shoot a deer I go get him and show him where I shot the deer and in 1 minute he's on the deer trying to rip the hair off it's ass so he can get to the rump meat. It's like instinctively he does exactly what wolves would do. And when the dogs at the dog park pick on a dog he knows pack mentality so he joins the pack. That way he's never the one getting picked on.

He acts tough but as soon as the other dog shows their teeth, he becomes a pussy. So cute. I've even heard him yelp like a little girl before the dog even bit him. They just ran at him with their teeth showing and YELP! So cute. I love that little guy.

What's a PBGV?

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One day a raccoon was walking through the woods. He ran up and bit it in the neck and shook it but he doesn't have that powerful of a bite. So the raccoon was fine. It turned around and was going to fuck my dog up and I grabbed my dog by the body hair and picked him up like a pillow. The raccoon was clung to him and he was just about to start fucking up my dog and I shook the raccoon off. WHEW!

P.S. I was watching my favorite tv show mountain men. One of the guys dogs didn't come home. In the morning he found it dead. But it was 15 years old and it was winter. Heck, even coyote's and wolves have dens where they sleep and keep warm. I feel sorry for the lone wolf who gets kicked out of his pack and has to live on his own.

No German Shorthair owner has ever shown their partner where any animal live or dead was or is. So if you are showing your dog where a deer is, from a hunting standpoint you just have the wrong dog. The photo also looks like a cross between a bearded collie and a basset hound, now since the Basset comes from the Bloodhound their tracking abilities are there, but as you say the prey must already be dead as there are no legs. GSP's hunt, track, point and retrieve, the tracking can be scent or sight or both, they are legendary and if you ever get one they will teach you much because they are the teacher to inferior humans where hunting is concerned. Not sure if you are French but the French actually have their own GSP and they call it the Braque Francais because well they are French and can not admit that the German is the best of the best, always.

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I said I showed my dog where I shot the deer. He then picked up the blood trail and ran right to the deer. I actually had to wait because if the thing wasn't dead yet my dog would have made him get up and run further into the woods.

PBGV. Petite (small) Bassett Griffon Vendeen. Vendee is the town in France where the breed came from.

Again no GSP owner ever shows their GSP an animal or trail, really this happens the other way around as the GSP seems to know the unknowable and does not need the handler for anything. The fact is that GSP owners understand this and all others are wannabees including English Pointer owners who's doggies are afraid to get their feet wet. Again the best French hunter is the Braque Francais which is merely an unrefined GSP.

I was wondering what kind of dog does the guy on Mountain Men use for hunting mountain lions.

Blue tick coonhounds are the preferred choice for most, but black and tan hounds, leopard curs and redbone hounds are also used.

On Mountain men one guy uses Treeing Walker Coonhounds

It would never occur to me to even think about using a dog to trail a lion as the lion can just turn around and kill 6 dogs in rapid succession as a mountain lion can slap a dog and break it's spine instantly. Then again it would never occur to me to hunt something as beautiful as a mountain lion in the first place.

He doesn't shoot the lions. His dogs tree the lion, then he bangs the tree with a stick causing vibration and the cat jumps. The dogs sometimes scrap with the cat but it's 4 on 1 and yes the dogs are in danger and sometimes get scratched up or seriously hurt. But the cat runs further up the mountain. He may tree/chase the cat 2 or 3 times until it's far enough up the mountain and not going to come back for their livestock or elementary school kids. Yea a cat was seen near the school so they called him in to run it off.

We always joke that the reason he doesn't kill the cats is because they are his business. If he kills them he's out of a job. They'll be back. But at least he's instilling a fear of man and dogs in them. It's not worth coming to kill a human child, cat, dog, sheep or cow.

There ought to be a season for mountain lions to chase assholes, I would pay to watch

I can't believe there aren't any bobcats or lynx where I live. Lots of woods. They're up north Michigan. We must have killed them all off locally. Part of me is sad but then I don't like any creatures out there that can kill my dog. When it's not deer season I hunt coyote off the porch on my brothers 65 acres up north. I've seen and shot at two but never a good shot. Hopefully I scared them off. But I went out and got a night light that works great. So the next time I see a coyote at night I'll have them in my cross hairs. The last time I shined my light out in the field and there he was. So I grabbed my gun (without a night light) and I couldn't see a damn thing. So I flashed the light and saw him running away. I didn't have a light attached to my gun! Now I do.

There's a bear on the property too. Scary. Can't shoot them either.

I had an idiot come looking at a litter of pups here once. He said that he wanted a smaller female GSP and that he had no fence on his property and that he had coyotes there as well. I was polite and he did not want a pup, but he never would have gotten one either. I almost told him to get a great Pyrenees male of 150 pounds if he had coyotes.

There are no bobcats, lynx or cougars because people like you shot them all.

Actually there are bobcats where I live I've just never seen one. Rare and elusive.

Bobcats are not just a northern species, but live throughout the state of Michigan. They can even be found in the outskirts of large cities such as Detroit.

That's because the Canada Lynx is classified as a threatened species in Michigan with very few reported sighting over the last 40 years. Of these, most occurred in the Upper peninsula. In March of 2019 near Howell, MI the DNR actually live captured a lynx.

I live just south of Howell. So I'm sure there are Bobcat/Lynx in my woods. I would love to see one. I'm not really afraid of them like I am coyote. And I don't worry about the coyote going extinct they are thriving everywhere. I'd just like to chase them off my property up north. I hear them howling on the back of the property. It's scary. Even my dog looks concerned. To be honest? I think my dog might be afraid of coyote. He certainly didn't run off after them when he heard them howling.

I wouldn't shoot the bear that's on the property. But one day he might get me when I'm walking to my blind at 4:30am in the morning. I always say if I'm hunting and another animal gets me, I got what I deserved. Poetic justice. You can't go out killing deer and then cry if a bear kills you for food.

Do ya really think that a 14 inch tall 30lb dog might be afraid of a coyote? only if he is bright

You should see the move this little guy makes at the dog park. He comes up hard and fast and he lunges for their neck. Does it to some pretty big dogs. Has almost gotten fucked up a few times messing with the wrong lab or tall poodle. He is all talk so not sure why he talks so much shit. Like his daddy?

Your little dog lunges at big dogs because it is scared and can not deal with situation without panicking, a good breeder would neuter a dog like yours. That said you are actually bragging that you let the little pooch run free at the doggie park with the Poodles and Pekinese, and that it runs away from foxes. You have never seen a dog hunt until you have followed a GSP

A nice dog with a nice toy. Such headstrong dogs hunt martens or treats. Martens with their courage and treats with their nice lovely eyes. Also called "Dachshund", "Dackel" or "Bavarian greyhound".



By the way Dusty. This dog fights in a bagder's burrow - and is able to win there. That's something what a wolve never would do.

 

[Dusty]

Indeependent

Actually Since Floods leave scars on the Earth Surface that last well basically forever----------we can safely say that there never ever was a World Wide Flood as described in the Bible. NEVER happened. We also know through genetics and DNA----that one pair of animals would not be enough genetics to repopulate any species----well other than a virus maybe.

And what is "world wide", when you are a Neolithic people who never wandered more than two dozen miles from your home village?

Obviously, it is a flood that devastates everything in your region, because that is the "world" as far as you are concerned. If you live on that split of land between the Tigris and Euphrates rivers in 4,000 BCE and then everything as far as the eye can see is underwater, of course as far as you are concerned "the entire world flooded".

Obviously even trying to change your mindset to seeing things how people thousands of years ago viewed them is beyond your capability.

Excellent, see you are ok when not obsessed with fake trains

We are talking about evolution. What that has to do with trains, I have absolutely no idea.

There is no evolution between dogs and wolves as they are exactly the same species. That said I do like your baby gif, is that you or your Son?

Not true. Dogs are evolving too. Not into a new species at least not for a long time.

The dog, Canis familiaris, is a direct descendent of the gray wolf, Canis lupus: All modern dogs are descendants of wolves.

Now what about us? We are homo sapiens.

But humans are not descended from monkeys or any other primate living today. We do share a common ape ancestor with chimpanzees. It lived between 8 and 6 million years ago. But humans and chimpanzees evolved differently from that same ancestor.

Again dogs and wolves are exactly the same species,

Exactly?

and no breed of dog is evolved from the wolf, as no dog can exist in the wild.

(1) After an beagle had disappeared here in the near they found him 2 years later in the woods - he was very fat.

(2) If you say dogs are not able to survive but wolves are able to survive and you say the same time both are exactly the same species then something is wrong with this idea.

Sure some can but they rapidly either die with the survivors picking up wolf traits

The fact about a beagle even though they are great hunters is that they are short dogs with short legs meaning that they rarely catch anything on foot. The fact is that an eagle could choose to eat the beagle and not the other way around. Poor choice Fred as I owned a beagle once

Beagles can't catch a rabbit but I've seen my beagle kill a possum, water vole, muskrat, mole, mice, groundhog, etc.

Perhaps your beagle was a pussy? I had a pure bred blue tick beagle.

The blue tick beagle is a small hunting dog with a short coat that is partially mottled bluish-gray in color. It is a very friendly and intelligent breed that is often used for hunting rabbits and other small game.

Well your beagle is still a parasite that can not exist in the wild. People do not understand that wild dogs do not see breed, they just screw the bitch in heat irrespective of breed including wolves and coyotes. As such purebred dogs can never exist in the wild. LOL my 4 German Shorthairs could bite a bear on the ass and never be there when the bear turned around and run any beagle or bear to death.

PS Your tiny beagle will also not survive a northern winter in the woods, but since you live in the redneck shed.......Well u kno

PSS. One of my shorthairs actually handed my wife a rabbit once. Really

Today I have a PBGV. Somehow I got lucky when I found him because he's an amazing hunting dog. If I shoot a deer I go get him and show him where I shot the deer and in 1 minute he's on the deer trying to rip the hair off it's ass so he can get to the rump meat. It's like instinctively he does exactly what wolves would do. And when the dogs at the dog park pick on a dog he knows pack mentality so he joins the pack. That way he's never the one getting picked on.

He acts tough but as soon as the other dog shows their teeth, he becomes a pussy. So cute. I've even heard him yelp like a little girl before the dog even bit him. They just ran at him with their teeth showing and YELP! So cute. I love that little guy.

What's a PBGV?

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One day a raccoon was walking through the woods. He ran up and bit it in the neck and shook it but he doesn't have that powerful of a bite. So the raccoon was fine. It turned around and was going to fuck my dog up and I grabbed my dog by the body hair and picked him up like a pillow. The raccoon was clung to him and he was just about to start fucking up my dog and I shook the raccoon off. WHEW!

P.S. I was watching my favorite tv show mountain men. One of the guys dogs didn't come home. In the morning he found it dead. But it was 15 years old and it was winter. Heck, even coyote's and wolves have dens where they sleep and keep warm. I feel sorry for the lone wolf who gets kicked out of his pack and has to live on his own.

No German Shorthair owner has ever shown their partner where any animal live or dead was or is. So if you are showing your dog where a deer is, from a hunting standpoint you just have the wrong dog. The photo also looks like a cross between a bearded collie and a basset hound, now since the Basset comes from the Bloodhound their tracking abilities are there, but as you say the prey must already be dead as there are no legs. GSP's hunt, track, point and retrieve, the tracking can be scent or sight or both, they are legendary and if you ever get one they will teach you much because they are the teacher to inferior humans where hunting is concerned. Not sure if you are French but the French actually have their own GSP and they call it the Braque Francais because well they are French and can not admit that the German is the best of the best, always.

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I said I showed my dog where I shot the deer. He then picked up the blood trail and ran right to the deer. I actually had to wait because if the thing wasn't dead yet my dog would have made him get up and run further into the woods.

PBGV. Petite (small) Bassett Griffon Vendeen. Vendee is the town in France where the breed came from.

Again no GSP owner ever shows their GSP an animal or trail, really this happens the other way around as the GSP seems to know the unknowable and does not need the handler for anything. The fact is that GSP owners understand this and all others are wannabees including English Pointer owners who's doggies are afraid to get their feet wet. Again the best French hunter is the Braque Francais which is merely an unrefined GSP.

I was wondering what kind of dog does the guy on Mountain Men use for hunting mountain lions.

Blue tick coonhounds are the preferred choice for most, but black and tan hounds, leopard curs and redbone hounds are also used.

On Mountain men one guy uses Treeing Walker Coonhounds

It would never occur to me to even think about using a dog to trail a lion as the lion can just turn around and kill 6 dogs in rapid succession as a mountain lion can slap a dog and break it's spine instantly. Then again it would never occur to me to hunt something as beautiful as a mountain lion in the first place.

He doesn't shoot the lions. His dogs tree the lion, then he bangs the tree with a stick causing vibration and the cat jumps. The dogs sometimes scrap with the cat but it's 4 on 1 and yes the dogs are in danger and sometimes get scratched up or seriously hurt. But the cat runs further up the mountain. He may tree/chase the cat 2 or 3 times until it's far enough up the mountain and not going to come back for their livestock or elementary school kids. Yea a cat was seen near the school so they called him in to run it off.

We always joke that the reason he doesn't kill the cats is because they are his business. If he kills them he's out of a job. They'll be back. But at least he's instilling a fear of man and dogs in them. It's not worth coming to kill a human child, cat, dog, sheep or cow.

There ought to be a season for mountain lions to chase assholes, I would pay to watch

I can't believe there aren't any bobcats or lynx where I live. Lots of woods. They're up north Michigan. We must have killed them all off locally. Part of me is sad but then I don't like any creatures out there that can kill my dog. When it's not deer season I hunt coyote off the porch on my brothers 65 acres up north. I've seen and shot at two but never a good shot. Hopefully I scared them off. But I went out and got a night light that works great. So the next time I see a coyote at night I'll have them in my cross hairs. The last time I shined my light out in the field and there he was. So I grabbed my gun (without a night light) and I couldn't see a damn thing. So I flashed the light and saw him running away. I didn't have a light attached to my gun! Now I do.

There's a bear on the property too. Scary. Can't shoot them either.

I had an idiot come looking at a litter of pups here once. He said that he wanted a smaller female GSP and that he had no fence on his property and that he had coyotes there as well. I was polite and he did not want a pup, but he never would have gotten one either. I almost told him to get a great Pyrenees male of 150 pounds if he had coyotes.

There are no bobcats, lynx or cougars because people like you shot them all.

Actually there are bobcats where I live I've just never seen one. Rare and elusive.

Bobcats are not just a northern species, but live throughout the state of Michigan. They can even be found in the outskirts of large cities such as Detroit.

That's because the Canada Lynx is classified as a threatened species in Michigan with very few reported sighting over the last 40 years. Of these, most occurred in the Upper peninsula. In March of 2019 near Howell, MI the DNR actually live captured a lynx.

I live just south of Howell. So I'm sure there are Bobcat/Lynx in my woods. I would love to see one. I'm not really afraid of them like I am coyote. And I don't worry about the coyote going extinct they are thriving everywhere. I'd just like to chase them off my property up north. I hear them howling on the back of the property. It's scary. Even my dog looks concerned. To be honest? I think my dog might be afraid of coyote. He certainly didn't run off after them when he heard them howling.

I wouldn't shoot the bear that's on the property. But one day he might get me when I'm walking to my blind at 4:30am in the morning. I always say if I'm hunting and another animal gets me, I got what I deserved. Poetic justice. You can't go out killing deer and then cry if a bear kills you for food.

Do ya really think that a 14 inch tall 30lb dog might be afraid of a coyote? only if he is bright

You should see the move this little guy makes at the dog park. He comes up hard and fast and he lunges for their neck. Does it to some pretty big dogs. Has almost gotten fucked up a few times messing with the wrong lab or tall poodle. He is all talk so not sure why he talks so much shit. Like his daddy?

Your little dog lunges at big dogs because it is scared and can not deal with situation without panicking, a good breeder would neuter a dog like yours. That said you are actually bragging that you let the little pooch run free at the doggie park with the Poodles and Pekinese, and that it runs away from foxes. You have never seen a dog hunt until you have followed a GSP

A nice dog with a nice toy. Such headstrong dogs hunt martens or treats. Martens with their courage and treats with their nice lovely eyes.

Most dogs will run around and act like the wolves that they come from, I have personally seen a GSP execute a mathematical plan while hunting, it defied explanation but I saw it happen

 

[Dusty]

Indeependent

Actually Since Floods leave scars on the Earth Surface that last well basically forever----------we can safely say that there never ever was a World Wide Flood as described in the Bible. NEVER happened. We also know through genetics and DNA----that one pair of animals would not be enough genetics to repopulate any species----well other than a virus maybe.

And what is "world wide", when you are a Neolithic people who never wandered more than two dozen miles from your home village?

Obviously, it is a flood that devastates everything in your region, because that is the "world" as far as you are concerned. If you live on that split of land between the Tigris and Euphrates rivers in 4,000 BCE and then everything as far as the eye can see is underwater, of course as far as you are concerned "the entire world flooded".

Obviously even trying to change your mindset to seeing things how people thousands of years ago viewed them is beyond your capability.

Excellent, see you are ok when not obsessed with fake trains

We are talking about evolution. What that has to do with trains, I have absolutely no idea.

There is no evolution between dogs and wolves as they are exactly the same species. That said I do like your baby gif, is that you or your Son?

Not true. Dogs are evolving too. Not into a new species at least not for a long time.

The dog, Canis familiaris, is a direct descendent of the gray wolf, Canis lupus: All modern dogs are descendants of wolves.

Now what about us? We are homo sapiens.

But humans are not descended from monkeys or any other primate living today. We do share a common ape ancestor with chimpanzees. It lived between 8 and 6 million years ago. But humans and chimpanzees evolved differently from that same ancestor.

Again dogs and wolves are exactly the same species,

Exactly?

and no breed of dog is evolved from the wolf, as no dog can exist in the wild.

(1) After an beagle had disappeared here in the near they found him 2 years later in the woods - he was very fat.

(2) If you say dogs are not able to survive but wolves are able to survive and you say the same time both are exactly the same species then something is wrong with this idea.

Sure some can but they rapidly either die with the survivors picking up wolf traits

The fact about a beagle even though they are great hunters is that they are short dogs with short legs meaning that they rarely catch anything on foot. The fact is that an eagle could choose to eat the beagle and not the other way around. Poor choice Fred as I owned a beagle once

Beagles can't catch a rabbit but I've seen my beagle kill a possum, water vole, muskrat, mole, mice, groundhog, etc.

Perhaps your beagle was a pussy? I had a pure bred blue tick beagle.

The blue tick beagle is a small hunting dog with a short coat that is partially mottled bluish-gray in color. It is a very friendly and intelligent breed that is often used for hunting rabbits and other small game.

Well your beagle is still a parasite that can not exist in the wild. People do not understand that wild dogs do not see breed, they just screw the bitch in heat irrespective of breed including wolves and coyotes. As such purebred dogs can never exist in the wild. LOL my 4 German Shorthairs could bite a bear on the ass and never be there when the bear turned around and run any beagle or bear to death.

PS Your tiny beagle will also not survive a northern winter in the woods, but since you live in the redneck shed.......Well u kno

PSS. One of my shorthairs actually handed my wife a rabbit once. Really

Today I have a PBGV. Somehow I got lucky when I found him because he's an amazing hunting dog. If I shoot a deer I go get him and show him where I shot the deer and in 1 minute he's on the deer trying to rip the hair off it's ass so he can get to the rump meat. It's like instinctively he does exactly what wolves would do. And when the dogs at the dog park pick on a dog he knows pack mentality so he joins the pack. That way he's never the one getting picked on.

He acts tough but as soon as the other dog shows their teeth, he becomes a pussy. So cute. I've even heard him yelp like a little girl before the dog even bit him. They just ran at him with their teeth showing and YELP! So cute. I love that little guy.

What's a PBGV?

View attachment 507656

One day a raccoon was walking through the woods. He ran up and bit it in the neck and shook it but he doesn't have that powerful of a bite. So the raccoon was fine. It turned around and was going to fuck my dog up and I grabbed my dog by the body hair and picked him up like a pillow. The raccoon was clung to him and he was just about to start fucking up my dog and I shook the raccoon off. WHEW!

P.S. I was watching my favorite tv show mountain men. One of the guys dogs didn't come home. In the morning he found it dead. But it was 15 years old and it was winter. Heck, even coyote's and wolves have dens where they sleep and keep warm. I feel sorry for the lone wolf who gets kicked out of his pack and has to live on his own.

No German Shorthair owner has ever shown their partner where any animal live or dead was or is. So if you are showing your dog where a deer is, from a hunting standpoint you just have the wrong dog. The photo also looks like a cross between a bearded collie and a basset hound, now since the Basset comes from the Bloodhound their tracking abilities are there, but as you say the prey must already be dead as there are no legs. GSP's hunt, track, point and retrieve, the tracking can be scent or sight or both, they are legendary and if you ever get one they will teach you much because they are the teacher to inferior humans where hunting is concerned. Not sure if you are French but the French actually have their own GSP and they call it the Braque Francais because well they are French and can not admit that the German is the best of the best, always.

​

I said I showed my dog where I shot the deer. He then picked up the blood trail and ran right to the deer. I actually had to wait because if the thing wasn't dead yet my dog would have made him get up and run further into the woods.

PBGV. Petite (small) Bassett Griffon Vendeen. Vendee is the town in France where the breed came from.

Again no GSP owner ever shows their GSP an animal or trail, really this happens the other way around as the GSP seems to know the unknowable and does not need the handler for anything. The fact is that GSP owners understand this and all others are wannabees including English Pointer owners who's doggies are afraid to get their feet wet. Again the best French hunter is the Braque Francais which is merely an unrefined GSP.

I was wondering what kind of dog does the guy on Mountain Men use for hunting mountain lions.

Blue tick coonhounds are the preferred choice for most, but black and tan hounds, leopard curs and redbone hounds are also used.

On Mountain men one guy uses Treeing Walker Coonhounds

It would never occur to me to even think about using a dog to trail a lion as the lion can just turn around and kill 6 dogs in rapid succession as a mountain lion can slap a dog and break it's spine instantly. Then again it would never occur to me to hunt something as beautiful as a mountain lion in the first place.

He doesn't shoot the lions. His dogs tree the lion, then he bangs the tree with a stick causing vibration and the cat jumps. The dogs sometimes scrap with the cat but it's 4 on 1 and yes the dogs are in danger and sometimes get scratched up or seriously hurt. But the cat runs further up the mountain. He may tree/chase the cat 2 or 3 times until it's far enough up the mountain and not going to come back for their livestock or elementary school kids. Yea a cat was seen near the school so they called him in to run it off.

We always joke that the reason he doesn't kill the cats is because they are his business. If he kills them he's out of a job. They'll be back. But at least he's instilling a fear of man and dogs in them. It's not worth coming to kill a human child, cat, dog, sheep or cow.

There ought to be a season for mountain lions to chase assholes, I would pay to watch

I can't believe there aren't any bobcats or lynx where I live. Lots of woods. They're up north Michigan. We must have killed them all off locally. Part of me is sad but then I don't like any creatures out there that can kill my dog. When it's not deer season I hunt coyote off the porch on my brothers 65 acres up north. I've seen and shot at two but never a good shot. Hopefully I scared them off. But I went out and got a night light that works great. So the next time I see a coyote at night I'll have them in my cross hairs. The last time I shined my light out in the field and there he was. So I grabbed my gun (without a night light) and I couldn't see a damn thing. So I flashed the light and saw him running away. I didn't have a light attached to my gun! Now I do.

There's a bear on the property too. Scary. Can't shoot them either.

I had an idiot come looking at a litter of pups here once. He said that he wanted a smaller female GSP and that he had no fence on his property and that he had coyotes there as well. I was polite and he did not want a pup, but he never would have gotten one either. I almost told him to get a great Pyrenees male of 150 pounds if he had coyotes.

There are no bobcats, lynx or cougars because people like you shot them all.

Actually there are bobcats where I live I've just never seen one. Rare and elusive.

Bobcats are not just a northern species, but live throughout the state of Michigan. They can even be found in the outskirts of large cities such as Detroit.

That's because the Canada Lynx is classified as a threatened species in Michigan with very few reported sighting over the last 40 years. Of these, most occurred in the Upper peninsula. In March of 2019 near Howell, MI the DNR actually live captured a lynx.

I live just south of Howell. So I'm sure there are Bobcat/Lynx in my woods. I would love to see one. I'm not really afraid of them like I am coyote. And I don't worry about the coyote going extinct they are thriving everywhere. I'd just like to chase them off my property up north. I hear them howling on the back of the property. It's scary. Even my dog looks concerned. To be honest? I think my dog might be afraid of coyote. He certainly didn't run off after them when he heard them howling.

I wouldn't shoot the bear that's on the property. But one day he might get me when I'm walking to my blind at 4:30am in the morning. I always say if I'm hunting and another animal gets me, I got what I deserved. Poetic justice. You can't go out killing deer and then cry if a bear kills you for food.

Do ya really think that a 14 inch tall 30lb dog might be afraid of a coyote? only if he is bright

You should see the move this little guy makes at the dog park. He comes up hard and fast and he lunges for their neck. Does it to some pretty big dogs. Has almost gotten fucked up a few times messing with the wrong lab or tall poodle. He is all talk so not sure why he talks so much shit. Like his daddy?

Your little dog lunges at big dogs because it is scared and can not deal with situation without panicking, a good breeder would neuter a dog like yours. That said you are actually bragging that you let the little pooch run free at the doggie park with the Poodles and Pekinese, and that it runs away from foxes. You have never seen a dog hunt until you have followed a GSP

A nice dog with a nice toy. Such headstrong dogs hunt martens or treats. Martens with their courage and treats with their nice lovely eyes. Also called "Dachshund", "Dackel" or "Bavarian greyhound".



By the way Dusty. This dog fights in a bagder's burrow - and is able to win there. That's something what a wolve never would do.

Actually a Badger would rip the head off of a wolf if cornered, and there is no way to fight in a burrow. See kid not everything that the AKC says is in any way real.

A Badger holding off an African lion.

 

[sealybobo]

Indeependent

Actually Since Floods leave scars on the Earth Surface that last well basically forever----------we can safely say that there never ever was a World Wide Flood as described in the Bible. NEVER happened. We also know through genetics and DNA----that one pair of animals would not be enough genetics to repopulate any species----well other than a virus maybe.

And what is "world wide", when you are a Neolithic people who never wandered more than two dozen miles from your home village?

Obviously, it is a flood that devastates everything in your region, because that is the "world" as far as you are concerned. If you live on that split of land between the Tigris and Euphrates rivers in 4,000 BCE and then everything as far as the eye can see is underwater, of course as far as you are concerned "the entire world flooded".

Obviously even trying to change your mindset to seeing things how people thousands of years ago viewed them is beyond your capability.

Excellent, see you are ok when not obsessed with fake trains

We are talking about evolution. What that has to do with trains, I have absolutely no idea.

There is no evolution between dogs and wolves as they are exactly the same species. That said I do like your baby gif, is that you or your Son?

Not true. Dogs are evolving too. Not into a new species at least not for a long time.

The dog, Canis familiaris, is a direct descendent of the gray wolf, Canis lupus: All modern dogs are descendants of wolves.

Now what about us? We are homo sapiens.

But humans are not descended from monkeys or any other primate living today. We do share a common ape ancestor with chimpanzees. It lived between 8 and 6 million years ago. But humans and chimpanzees evolved differently from that same ancestor.

Again dogs and wolves are exactly the same species,

Exactly?

and no breed of dog is evolved from the wolf, as no dog can exist in the wild.

(1) After an beagle had disappeared here in the near they found him 2 years later in the woods - he was very fat.

(2) If you say dogs are not able to survive but wolves are able to survive and you say the same time both are exactly the same species then something is wrong with this idea.

Sure some can but they rapidly either die with the survivors picking up wolf traits

The fact about a beagle even though they are great hunters is that they are short dogs with short legs meaning that they rarely catch anything on foot. The fact is that an eagle could choose to eat the beagle and not the other way around. Poor choice Fred as I owned a beagle once

Beagles can't catch a rabbit but I've seen my beagle kill a possum, water vole, muskrat, mole, mice, groundhog, etc.

Perhaps your beagle was a pussy? I had a pure bred blue tick beagle.

The blue tick beagle is a small hunting dog with a short coat that is partially mottled bluish-gray in color. It is a very friendly and intelligent breed that is often used for hunting rabbits and other small game.

Well your beagle is still a parasite that can not exist in the wild. People do not understand that wild dogs do not see breed, they just screw the bitch in heat irrespective of breed including wolves and coyotes. As such purebred dogs can never exist in the wild. LOL my 4 German Shorthairs could bite a bear on the ass and never be there when the bear turned around and run any beagle or bear to death.

PS Your tiny beagle will also not survive a northern winter in the woods, but since you live in the redneck shed.......Well u kno

PSS. One of my shorthairs actually handed my wife a rabbit once. Really

Today I have a PBGV. Somehow I got lucky when I found him because he's an amazing hunting dog. If I shoot a deer I go get him and show him where I shot the deer and in 1 minute he's on the deer trying to rip the hair off it's ass so he can get to the rump meat. It's like instinctively he does exactly what wolves would do. And when the dogs at the dog park pick on a dog he knows pack mentality so he joins the pack. That way he's never the one getting picked on.

He acts tough but as soon as the other dog shows their teeth, he becomes a pussy. So cute. I've even heard him yelp like a little girl before the dog even bit him. They just ran at him with their teeth showing and YELP! So cute. I love that little guy.

What's a PBGV?

View attachment 507656

One day a raccoon was walking through the woods. He ran up and bit it in the neck and shook it but he doesn't have that powerful of a bite. So the raccoon was fine. It turned around and was going to fuck my dog up and I grabbed my dog by the body hair and picked him up like a pillow. The raccoon was clung to him and he was just about to start fucking up my dog and I shook the raccoon off. WHEW!

P.S. I was watching my favorite tv show mountain men. One of the guys dogs didn't come home. In the morning he found it dead. But it was 15 years old and it was winter. Heck, even coyote's and wolves have dens where they sleep and keep warm. I feel sorry for the lone wolf who gets kicked out of his pack and has to live on his own.

No German Shorthair owner has ever shown their partner where any animal live or dead was or is. So if you are showing your dog where a deer is, from a hunting standpoint you just have the wrong dog. The photo also looks like a cross between a bearded collie and a basset hound, now since the Basset comes from the Bloodhound their tracking abilities are there, but as you say the prey must already be dead as there are no legs. GSP's hunt, track, point and retrieve, the tracking can be scent or sight or both, they are legendary and if you ever get one they will teach you much because they are the teacher to inferior humans where hunting is concerned. Not sure if you are French but the French actually have their own GSP and they call it the Braque Francais because well they are French and can not admit that the German is the best of the best, always.

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I said I showed my dog where I shot the deer. He then picked up the blood trail and ran right to the deer. I actually had to wait because if the thing wasn't dead yet my dog would have made him get up and run further into the woods.

PBGV. Petite (small) Bassett Griffon Vendeen. Vendee is the town in France where the breed came from.

Again no GSP owner ever shows their GSP an animal or trail, really this happens the other way around as the GSP seems to know the unknowable and does not need the handler for anything. The fact is that GSP owners understand this and all others are wannabees including English Pointer owners who's doggies are afraid to get their feet wet. Again the best French hunter is the Braque Francais which is merely an unrefined GSP.

I was wondering what kind of dog does the guy on Mountain Men use for hunting mountain lions.

Blue tick coonhounds are the preferred choice for most, but black and tan hounds, leopard curs and redbone hounds are also used.

On Mountain men one guy uses Treeing Walker Coonhounds

It would never occur to me to even think about using a dog to trail a lion as the lion can just turn around and kill 6 dogs in rapid succession as a mountain lion can slap a dog and break it's spine instantly. Then again it would never occur to me to hunt something as beautiful as a mountain lion in the first place.

He doesn't shoot the lions. His dogs tree the lion, then he bangs the tree with a stick causing vibration and the cat jumps. The dogs sometimes scrap with the cat but it's 4 on 1 and yes the dogs are in danger and sometimes get scratched up or seriously hurt. But the cat runs further up the mountain. He may tree/chase the cat 2 or 3 times until it's far enough up the mountain and not going to come back for their livestock or elementary school kids. Yea a cat was seen near the school so they called him in to run it off.

We always joke that the reason he doesn't kill the cats is because they are his business. If he kills them he's out of a job. They'll be back. But at least he's instilling a fear of man and dogs in them. It's not worth coming to kill a human child, cat, dog, sheep or cow.

There ought to be a season for mountain lions to chase assholes, I would pay to watch

I can't believe there aren't any bobcats or lynx where I live. Lots of woods. They're up north Michigan. We must have killed them all off locally. Part of me is sad but then I don't like any creatures out there that can kill my dog. When it's not deer season I hunt coyote off the porch on my brothers 65 acres up north. I've seen and shot at two but never a good shot. Hopefully I scared them off. But I went out and got a night light that works great. So the next time I see a coyote at night I'll have them in my cross hairs. The last time I shined my light out in the field and there he was. So I grabbed my gun (without a night light) and I couldn't see a damn thing. So I flashed the light and saw him running away. I didn't have a light attached to my gun! Now I do.

There's a bear on the property too. Scary. Can't shoot them either.

I had an idiot come looking at a litter of pups here once. He said that he wanted a smaller female GSP and that he had no fence on his property and that he had coyotes there as well. I was polite and he did not want a pup, but he never would have gotten one either. I almost told him to get a great Pyrenees male of 150 pounds if he had coyotes.

There are no bobcats, lynx or cougars because people like you shot them all.

Actually there are bobcats where I live I've just never seen one. Rare and elusive.

Bobcats are not just a northern species, but live throughout the state of Michigan. They can even be found in the outskirts of large cities such as Detroit.

That's because the Canada Lynx is classified as a threatened species in Michigan with very few reported sighting over the last 40 years. Of these, most occurred in the Upper peninsula. In March of 2019 near Howell, MI the DNR actually live captured a lynx.

I live just south of Howell. So I'm sure there are Bobcat/Lynx in my woods. I would love to see one. I'm not really afraid of them like I am coyote. And I don't worry about the coyote going extinct they are thriving everywhere. I'd just like to chase them off my property up north. I hear them howling on the back of the property. It's scary. Even my dog looks concerned. To be honest? I think my dog might be afraid of coyote. He certainly didn't run off after them when he heard them howling.

I wouldn't shoot the bear that's on the property. But one day he might get me when I'm walking to my blind at 4:30am in the morning. I always say if I'm hunting and another animal gets me, I got what I deserved. Poetic justice. You can't go out killing deer and then cry if a bear kills you for food.

Do ya really think that a 14 inch tall 30lb dog might be afraid of a coyote? only if he is bright

If you look up my breed the small ones react first think later. The bigger ones think first then react.

Those foxes I saw came really close. The one time it seemed to know my dog was on a leash. Or was daring it to chase. I’ve read Fox have been seen playing with dogs.

No fox would ever approach a GSP, even a hundred foxes together would not approach a GSP as foxes know better. Look I do not want to put your dog down as all dogs are great, but you do not have a hunting dog, dachshunds are classified as hunting dogs, it's hysterical. Morons claim that ridgebacks hunt African Lions, so is there video. You claim that your little pooch runs away from a fox then claim that it attacks and kills possums, well I have seen possums that look like they would eat a fox if they were hungry with no exaggeration. A typical GSP is untrainable, from the viewpoint that a trainer can not train what the pup already knows and a GSP knows everything including how to handle live tracking situations with an animal that it has never tracked before. You never having had a GSP can not know this. I have owned GSP,s since 1993 and still see my pups do things that violate rationale.

I think one of the guys on mountain men uses gap’s.

My dog is a hunting dog. Does exactly wha I need him to do. Track a deer after I shoot it.

My dog won’t attack a possum that is facing him. If it tries to turn and run maybe then he would try to bite it in the back of the neck. He tried it on a small raccoon and the raccoon was going to fuck him up but I broke it up.

The last possum played dead. He just barked at it till I came. Thats his job.

Does your dog bark when it has found it’s prey?

 

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Actually Since Floods leave scars on the Earth Surface that last well basically forever----------we can safely say that there never ever was a World Wide Flood as described in the Bible. NEVER happened. We also know through genetics and DNA----that one pair of animals would not be enough genetics to repopulate any species----well other than a virus maybe.

And what is "world wide", when you are a Neolithic people who never wandered more than two dozen miles from your home village?

Obviously, it is a flood that devastates everything in your region, because that is the "world" as far as you are concerned. If you live on that split of land between the Tigris and Euphrates rivers in 4,000 BCE and then everything as far as the eye can see is underwater, of course as far as you are concerned "the entire world flooded".

Obviously even trying to change your mindset to seeing things how people thousands of years ago viewed them is beyond your capability.

Excellent, see you are ok when not obsessed with fake trains

We are talking about evolution. What that has to do with trains, I have absolutely no idea.

There is no evolution between dogs and wolves as they are exactly the same species. That said I do like your baby gif, is that you or your Son?

Not true. Dogs are evolving too. Not into a new species at least not for a long time.

The dog, Canis familiaris, is a direct descendent of the gray wolf, Canis lupus: All modern dogs are descendants of wolves.

Now what about us? We are homo sapiens.

But humans are not descended from monkeys or any other primate living today. We do share a common ape ancestor with chimpanzees. It lived between 8 and 6 million years ago. But humans and chimpanzees evolved differently from that same ancestor.

Again dogs and wolves are exactly the same species,

Exactly?

and no breed of dog is evolved from the wolf, as no dog can exist in the wild.

(1) After an beagle had disappeared here in the near they found him 2 years later in the woods - he was very fat.

(2) If you say dogs are not able to survive but wolves are able to survive and you say the same time both are exactly the same species then something is wrong with this idea.

Sure some can but they rapidly either die with the survivors picking up wolf traits

The fact about a beagle even though they are great hunters is that they are short dogs with short legs meaning that they rarely catch anything on foot. The fact is that an eagle could choose to eat the beagle and not the other way around. Poor choice Fred as I owned a beagle once

Beagles can't catch a rabbit but I've seen my beagle kill a possum, water vole, muskrat, mole, mice, groundhog, etc.

Perhaps your beagle was a pussy? I had a pure bred blue tick beagle.

The blue tick beagle is a small hunting dog with a short coat that is partially mottled bluish-gray in color. It is a very friendly and intelligent breed that is often used for hunting rabbits and other small game.

Well your beagle is still a parasite that can not exist in the wild. People do not understand that wild dogs do not see breed, they just screw the bitch in heat irrespective of breed including wolves and coyotes. As such purebred dogs can never exist in the wild. LOL my 4 German Shorthairs could bite a bear on the ass and never be there when the bear turned around and run any beagle or bear to death.

PS Your tiny beagle will also not survive a northern winter in the woods, but since you live in the redneck shed.......Well u kno

PSS. One of my shorthairs actually handed my wife a rabbit once. Really

Today I have a PBGV. Somehow I got lucky when I found him because he's an amazing hunting dog. If I shoot a deer I go get him and show him where I shot the deer and in 1 minute he's on the deer trying to rip the hair off it's ass so he can get to the rump meat. It's like instinctively he does exactly what wolves would do. And when the dogs at the dog park pick on a dog he knows pack mentality so he joins the pack. That way he's never the one getting picked on.

He acts tough but as soon as the other dog shows their teeth, he becomes a pussy. So cute. I've even heard him yelp like a little girl before the dog even bit him. They just ran at him with their teeth showing and YELP! So cute. I love that little guy.

What's a PBGV?

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One day a raccoon was walking through the woods. He ran up and bit it in the neck and shook it but he doesn't have that powerful of a bite. So the raccoon was fine. It turned around and was going to fuck my dog up and I grabbed my dog by the body hair and picked him up like a pillow. The raccoon was clung to him and he was just about to start fucking up my dog and I shook the raccoon off. WHEW!

P.S. I was watching my favorite tv show mountain men. One of the guys dogs didn't come home. In the morning he found it dead. But it was 15 years old and it was winter. Heck, even coyote's and wolves have dens where they sleep and keep warm. I feel sorry for the lone wolf who gets kicked out of his pack and has to live on his own.

No German Shorthair owner has ever shown their partner where any animal live or dead was or is. So if you are showing your dog where a deer is, from a hunting standpoint you just have the wrong dog. The photo also looks like a cross between a bearded collie and a basset hound, now since the Basset comes from the Bloodhound their tracking abilities are there, but as you say the prey must already be dead as there are no legs. GSP's hunt, track, point and retrieve, the tracking can be scent or sight or both, they are legendary and if you ever get one they will teach you much because they are the teacher to inferior humans where hunting is concerned. Not sure if you are French but the French actually have their own GSP and they call it the Braque Francais because well they are French and can not admit that the German is the best of the best, always.

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I said I showed my dog where I shot the deer. He then picked up the blood trail and ran right to the deer. I actually had to wait because if the thing wasn't dead yet my dog would have made him get up and run further into the woods.

PBGV. Petite (small) Bassett Griffon Vendeen. Vendee is the town in France where the breed came from.

Again no GSP owner ever shows their GSP an animal or trail, really this happens the other way around as the GSP seems to know the unknowable and does not need the handler for anything. The fact is that GSP owners understand this and all others are wannabees including English Pointer owners who's doggies are afraid to get their feet wet. Again the best French hunter is the Braque Francais which is merely an unrefined GSP.

I was wondering what kind of dog does the guy on Mountain Men use for hunting mountain lions.

Blue tick coonhounds are the preferred choice for most, but black and tan hounds, leopard curs and redbone hounds are also used.

On Mountain men one guy uses Treeing Walker Coonhounds

It would never occur to me to even think about using a dog to trail a lion as the lion can just turn around and kill 6 dogs in rapid succession as a mountain lion can slap a dog and break it's spine instantly. Then again it would never occur to me to hunt something as beautiful as a mountain lion in the first place.

He doesn't shoot the lions. His dogs tree the lion, then he bangs the tree with a stick causing vibration and the cat jumps. The dogs sometimes scrap with the cat but it's 4 on 1 and yes the dogs are in danger and sometimes get scratched up or seriously hurt. But the cat runs further up the mountain. He may tree/chase the cat 2 or 3 times until it's far enough up the mountain and not going to come back for their livestock or elementary school kids. Yea a cat was seen near the school so they called him in to run it off.

We always joke that the reason he doesn't kill the cats is because they are his business. If he kills them he's out of a job. They'll be back. But at least he's instilling a fear of man and dogs in them. It's not worth coming to kill a human child, cat, dog, sheep or cow.

There ought to be a season for mountain lions to chase assholes, I would pay to watch

I can't believe there aren't any bobcats or lynx where I live. Lots of woods. They're up north Michigan. We must have killed them all off locally. Part of me is sad but then I don't like any creatures out there that can kill my dog. When it's not deer season I hunt coyote off the porch on my brothers 65 acres up north. I've seen and shot at two but never a good shot. Hopefully I scared them off. But I went out and got a night light that works great. So the next time I see a coyote at night I'll have them in my cross hairs. The last time I shined my light out in the field and there he was. So I grabbed my gun (without a night light) and I couldn't see a damn thing. So I flashed the light and saw him running away. I didn't have a light attached to my gun! Now I do.

There's a bear on the property too. Scary. Can't shoot them either.

I had an idiot come looking at a litter of pups here once. He said that he wanted a smaller female GSP and that he had no fence on his property and that he had coyotes there as well. I was polite and he did not want a pup, but he never would have gotten one either. I almost told him to get a great Pyrenees male of 150 pounds if he had coyotes.

There are no bobcats, lynx or cougars because people like you shot them all.

Actually there are bobcats where I live I've just never seen one. Rare and elusive.

Bobcats are not just a northern species, but live throughout the state of Michigan. They can even be found in the outskirts of large cities such as Detroit.

That's because the Canada Lynx is classified as a threatened species in Michigan with very few reported sighting over the last 40 years. Of these, most occurred in the Upper peninsula. In March of 2019 near Howell, MI the DNR actually live captured a lynx.

I live just south of Howell. So I'm sure there are Bobcat/Lynx in my woods. I would love to see one. I'm not really afraid of them like I am coyote. And I don't worry about the coyote going extinct they are thriving everywhere. I'd just like to chase them off my property up north. I hear them howling on the back of the property. It's scary. Even my dog looks concerned. To be honest? I think my dog might be afraid of coyote. He certainly didn't run off after them when he heard them howling.

I wouldn't shoot the bear that's on the property. But one day he might get me when I'm walking to my blind at 4:30am in the morning. I always say if I'm hunting and another animal gets me, I got what I deserved. Poetic justice. You can't go out killing deer and then cry if a bear kills you for food.

Do ya really think that a 14 inch tall 30lb dog might be afraid of a coyote? only if he is bright

You should see the move this little guy makes at the dog park. He comes up hard and fast and he lunges for their neck. Does it to some pretty big dogs. Has almost gotten fucked up a few times messing with the wrong lab or tall poodle. He is all talk so not sure why he talks so much shit. Like his daddy?

Your little dog lunges at big dogs because it is scared and can not deal with situation without panicking, a good breeder would neuter a dog like yours. That said you are actually bragging that you let the little pooch run free at the doggie park with the Poodles and Pekinese, and that it runs away from foxes. You have never seen a dog hunt until you have followed a GSP

We hang out in the big dog park not the little. We have gsp’s out there. Meh.