Are the numerous dog breeds proof of evolution?

[Indeependent]

They don't make sense because you can't read Hebrew and the English sucks.

Hahaha


No. That is not why. They don't make sense because they are often nonsensical.

Precisely what we would expect from primitive, superstitious people making their first attempts at compiling morality and their fantasies.

Do you ever tire of making an ass of yourself?
You have already admitted you have never read, let alone studied, even one verse of the Bible.

Uh....i literally told you last night i have read it, when you asked. Last night. Fuck man, you might want to stop doing drugs. Or maybe start. Because good god, your brains are tapioca.

You told me you read it after you told me you didn't read it.
Now tell me what verses you read.

 

[zaangalewa]

Indeependent

Actually Since Floods leave scars on the Earth Surface that last well basically forever----------we can safely say that there never ever was a World Wide Flood as described in the Bible. NEVER happened. We also know through genetics and DNA----that one pair of animals would not be enough genetics to repopulate any species----well other than a virus maybe.

And what is "world wide", when you are a Neolithic people who never wandered more than two dozen miles from your home village?

Obviously, it is a flood that devastates everything in your region, because that is the "world" as far as you are concerned. If you live on that split of land between the Tigris and Euphrates rivers in 4,000 BCE and then everything as far as the eye can see is underwater, of course as far as you are concerned "the entire world flooded".

Obviously even trying to change your mindset to seeing things how people thousands of years ago viewed them is beyond your capability.

Excellent, see you are ok when not obsessed with fake trains

We are talking about evolution. What that has to do with trains, I have absolutely no idea.

There is no evolution between dogs and wolves as they are exactly the same species. That said I do like your baby gif, is that you or your Son?

Not true. Dogs are evolving too. Not into a new species at least not for a long time.

The dog, Canis familiaris, is a direct descendent of the gray wolf, Canis lupus: All modern dogs are descendants of wolves.

Now what about us? We are homo sapiens.

But humans are not descended from monkeys or any other primate living today. We do share a common ape ancestor with chimpanzees. It lived between 8 and 6 million years ago. But humans and chimpanzees evolved differently from that same ancestor.

Again dogs and wolves are exactly the same species,

Exactly?

and no breed of dog is evolved from the wolf, as no dog can exist in the wild.

(1) After an beagle had disappeared here in the near they found him 2 years later in the woods - he was very fat.

(2) If you say dogs are not able to survive but wolves are able to survive and you say the same time both are exactly the same species then something is wrong with this idea.

Sure some can but they rapidly either die with the survivors picking up wolf traits

 

[zaangalewa]

Indeependent

The whole story of Noah by whatever name you want to use for him.............the bible stories are just a collection of stories copied from other religions and altered.....None of them make much sense, until put in context. A bunch of primitives likely high or drunk making up crazy nonsense.

Did you ever think about to try to fight against your anti-semitism and/or racism? Question: What do you see when you see a rainbow?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

You told me you read it after you told me you didn't read it.

Lie.

 

[zaangalewa]

From Wolves to Pugs and Great Danes – The History of Dog Breeds

Updated October 24, 2024 – Learn about the evolution of dogs and how they went from wolves to the loving pets we keep in our homes.

www.morrisanimalfoundation.org

Nope.. Its a result of selective breeding.

Nope? ... No hope? ... Absolutelly wrong?

Where do you see the difference between "selective breeding" and "natural selection"? We use the natural law evolution since about 20,000 years when some wolves decided to make us responsible for their lifes. Looks like we made not a bad job for them.

Dogs are not evolved from wolves as they are both still the same species,

Some genes are different. Dogs understand human voices and gestures. The understand for exampel what it means to point on a thing. Apes don't understand this gesture. Wolves also not as far as I know.

the dog however is actually been partly de-evolved and is now a parasite living off of humans

And not to forget: Many people see in the word "evolution" only a method to disclassify all unborn babies, all dogs, all Blacks, all Latinos, all Indians (red or not red) and all women - into the category "parasites" = "people, who like to steal my money, only because it is their money".

Or with other words: the relations between dogs and human beings are synergetic. They are for us here on this planet - and we are for them here on this planet. An average dog is by the way a master in psychology - compared with the average grown up male weaponed US-American. Proof: I never gave any of this male bullies any treat.

Pointers are not doing anything different than a wolf, in fact these abilities are all natural to wolves. A modern dog is genetically 99.9 percent wolf so no evolution is present

A lady here in this forum said once: An intelligent man is someone, who knows that tomatoes are fruits. And a wise man is, who knows not to throw them into a fruit salad.

Actually a human's intellectual quotient is not determined by a tomato.

I'm now not sure about this after your answer here.

Though some humans have the mental acuity of a said tomato. Then again other humans are quite mentally inferior to the same said tomato.

Dogs know that they are not bears nor wolves. That's what they told me when wolves and bears were not far from us. About tomatoes and fruit salad I have to say they had no special opinion. Owls also don't have a special opinion about this. Ravens too. ...

The post is not about dogs not being bears, the post is about dogs being descended from wolves which they are not because dogs are in reality still wolves. But you keep on babbling about dogs knowing that the yare not bears because the fact is that dogs nor wolves do not see their own breed, all they see and smell is another canine whether it be a dog or wolf

What's wrong. My dogs were "worried" in the same way when they smelled a bear and/or a wolve. They identified - without to learn this - a danger, although they were "personally" not able to know, what this danger could be. So they identified just simple something like a "strange dangerous species".

 

[Indeependent]

...

... No. That is not why. They don't make sense because they are ... nonsensical. ...

And I thought the sky is white and blue because it is white and blue.

What about all the science that explains why?

 

[Dusty]

Indeependent

Actually Since Floods leave scars on the Earth Surface that last well basically forever----------we can safely say that there never ever was a World Wide Flood as described in the Bible. NEVER happened. We also know through genetics and DNA----that one pair of animals would not be enough genetics to repopulate any species----well other than a virus maybe.

And what is "world wide", when you are a Neolithic people who never wandered more than two dozen miles from your home village?

Obviously, it is a flood that devastates everything in your region, because that is the "world" as far as you are concerned. If you live on that split of land between the Tigris and Euphrates rivers in 4,000 BCE and then everything as far as the eye can see is underwater, of course as far as you are concerned "the entire world flooded".

Obviously even trying to change your mindset to seeing things how people thousands of years ago viewed them is beyond your capability.

Excellent, see you are ok when not obsessed with fake trains

We are talking about evolution. What that has to do with trains, I have absolutely no idea.

There is no evolution between dogs and wolves as they are exactly the same species. That said I do like your baby gif, is that you or your Son?

Not true. Dogs are evolving too. Not into a new species at least not for a long time.

The dog, Canis familiaris, is a direct descendent of the gray wolf, Canis lupus: All modern dogs are descendants of wolves.

Now what about us? We are homo sapiens.

But humans are not descended from monkeys or any other primate living today. We do share a common ape ancestor with chimpanzees. It lived between 8 and 6 million years ago. But humans and chimpanzees evolved differently from that same ancestor.

Again dogs and wolves are exactly the same species,

Exactly?

and no breed of dog is evolved from the wolf, as no dog can exist in the wild.

(1) After an beagle had disappeared here in the near they found him 2 years later in the woods - he was very fat.

(2) If you say dogs are not able to survive but wolves are able to survive and you say the same time both are exactly the same species then something is wrong with this idea.

Sure some can but they rapidly either die with the survivors picking up wolf traits

The fact about a beagle even though they are great hunters is that they are short dogs with short legs meaning that they rarely catch anything on foot. The fact is that an eagle could choose to eat the beagle and not the other way around. Poor choice Fred as I owned a beagle once

 

[sealybobo]

Indeependent

Actually Since Floods leave scars on the Earth Surface that last well basically forever----------we can safely say that there never ever was a World Wide Flood as described in the Bible. NEVER happened. We also know through genetics and DNA----that one pair of animals would not be enough genetics to repopulate any species----well other than a virus maybe.

And what is "world wide", when you are a Neolithic people who never wandered more than two dozen miles from your home village?

Obviously, it is a flood that devastates everything in your region, because that is the "world" as far as you are concerned. If you live on that split of land between the Tigris and Euphrates rivers in 4,000 BCE and then everything as far as the eye can see is underwater, of course as far as you are concerned "the entire world flooded".

Obviously even trying to change your mindset to seeing things how people thousands of years ago viewed them is beyond your capability.

Excellent, see you are ok when not obsessed with fake trains

We are talking about evolution. What that has to do with trains, I have absolutely no idea.

There is no evolution between dogs and wolves as they are exactly the same species. That said I do like your baby gif, is that you or your Son?

Not true. Dogs are evolving too. Not into a new species at least not for a long time.

The dog, Canis familiaris, is a direct descendent of the gray wolf, Canis lupus: All modern dogs are descendants of wolves.

Now what about us? We are homo sapiens.

But humans are not descended from monkeys or any other primate living today. We do share a common ape ancestor with chimpanzees. It lived between 8 and 6 million years ago. But humans and chimpanzees evolved differently from that same ancestor.

Again dogs and wolves are exactly the same species,

Exactly?

and no breed of dog is evolved from the wolf, as no dog can exist in the wild.

(1) After an beagle had disappeared here in the near they found him 2 years later in the woods - he was very fat.

(2) If you say dogs are not able to survive but wolves are able to survive and you say the same time both are exactly the same species then something is wrong with this idea.

Sure some can but they rapidly either die with the survivors picking up wolf traits

The fact about a beagle even though they are great hunters is that they are short dogs with short legs meaning that they rarely catch anything on foot. The fact is that an eagle could choose to eat the beagle and not the other way around. Poor choice Fred as I owned a beagle once

Beagles can't catch a rabbit but I've seen my beagle kill a possum, water vole, muskrat, mole, mice, groundhog, etc.

Perhaps your beagle was a pussy? I had a pure bred blue tick beagle.

The blue tick beagle is a small hunting dog with a short coat that is partially mottled bluish-gray in color. It is a very friendly and intelligent breed that is often used for hunting rabbits and other small game.

 

[Dusty]

Indeependent

Actually Since Floods leave scars on the Earth Surface that last well basically forever----------we can safely say that there never ever was a World Wide Flood as described in the Bible. NEVER happened. We also know through genetics and DNA----that one pair of animals would not be enough genetics to repopulate any species----well other than a virus maybe.

And what is "world wide", when you are a Neolithic people who never wandered more than two dozen miles from your home village?

Obviously, it is a flood that devastates everything in your region, because that is the "world" as far as you are concerned. If you live on that split of land between the Tigris and Euphrates rivers in 4,000 BCE and then everything as far as the eye can see is underwater, of course as far as you are concerned "the entire world flooded".

Obviously even trying to change your mindset to seeing things how people thousands of years ago viewed them is beyond your capability.

Excellent, see you are ok when not obsessed with fake trains

We are talking about evolution. What that has to do with trains, I have absolutely no idea.

There is no evolution between dogs and wolves as they are exactly the same species. That said I do like your baby gif, is that you or your Son?

Not true. Dogs are evolving too. Not into a new species at least not for a long time.

The dog, Canis familiaris, is a direct descendent of the gray wolf, Canis lupus: All modern dogs are descendants of wolves.

Now what about us? We are homo sapiens.

But humans are not descended from monkeys or any other primate living today. We do share a common ape ancestor with chimpanzees. It lived between 8 and 6 million years ago. But humans and chimpanzees evolved differently from that same ancestor.

Again dogs and wolves are exactly the same species,

Exactly?

and no breed of dog is evolved from the wolf, as no dog can exist in the wild.

(1) After an beagle had disappeared here in the near they found him 2 years later in the woods - he was very fat.

(2) If you say dogs are not able to survive but wolves are able to survive and you say the same time both are exactly the same species then something is wrong with this idea.

Sure some can but they rapidly either die with the survivors picking up wolf traits

The fact about a beagle even though they are great hunters is that they are short dogs with short legs meaning that they rarely catch anything on foot. The fact is that an eagle could choose to eat the beagle and not the other way around. Poor choice Fred as I owned a beagle once

Beagles can't catch a rabbit but I've seen my beagle kill a possum, water vole, muskrat, mole, mice, groundhog, etc.

Perhaps your beagle was a pussy? I had a pure bred blue tick beagle.

The blue tick beagle is a small hunting dog with a short coat that is partially mottled bluish-gray in color. It is a very friendly and intelligent breed that is often used for hunting rabbits and other small game.

Well your beagle is still a parasite that can not exist in the wild. People do not understand that wild dogs do not see breed, they just screw the bitch in heat irrespective of breed including wolves and coyotes. As such purebred dogs can never exist in the wild. LOL my 4 German Shorthairs could bite a bear on the ass and never be there when the bear turned around and run any beagle or bear to death.

PS Your tiny beagle will also not survive a northern winter in the woods, but since you live in the redneck shed.......Well u kno

PSS. One of my shorthairs actually handed my wife a rabbit once. Really

 

[sealybobo]

Indeependent

Actually Since Floods leave scars on the Earth Surface that last well basically forever----------we can safely say that there never ever was a World Wide Flood as described in the Bible. NEVER happened. We also know through genetics and DNA----that one pair of animals would not be enough genetics to repopulate any species----well other than a virus maybe.

And what is "world wide", when you are a Neolithic people who never wandered more than two dozen miles from your home village?

Obviously, it is a flood that devastates everything in your region, because that is the "world" as far as you are concerned. If you live on that split of land between the Tigris and Euphrates rivers in 4,000 BCE and then everything as far as the eye can see is underwater, of course as far as you are concerned "the entire world flooded".

Obviously even trying to change your mindset to seeing things how people thousands of years ago viewed them is beyond your capability.

Excellent, see you are ok when not obsessed with fake trains

We are talking about evolution. What that has to do with trains, I have absolutely no idea.

There is no evolution between dogs and wolves as they are exactly the same species. That said I do like your baby gif, is that you or your Son?

Not true. Dogs are evolving too. Not into a new species at least not for a long time.

The dog, Canis familiaris, is a direct descendent of the gray wolf, Canis lupus: All modern dogs are descendants of wolves.

Now what about us? We are homo sapiens.

But humans are not descended from monkeys or any other primate living today. We do share a common ape ancestor with chimpanzees. It lived between 8 and 6 million years ago. But humans and chimpanzees evolved differently from that same ancestor.

Again dogs and wolves are exactly the same species,

Exactly?

and no breed of dog is evolved from the wolf, as no dog can exist in the wild.

(1) After an beagle had disappeared here in the near they found him 2 years later in the woods - he was very fat.

(2) If you say dogs are not able to survive but wolves are able to survive and you say the same time both are exactly the same species then something is wrong with this idea.

Sure some can but they rapidly either die with the survivors picking up wolf traits

The fact about a beagle even though they are great hunters is that they are short dogs with short legs meaning that they rarely catch anything on foot. The fact is that an eagle could choose to eat the beagle and not the other way around. Poor choice Fred as I owned a beagle once

Beagles can't catch a rabbit but I've seen my beagle kill a possum, water vole, muskrat, mole, mice, groundhog, etc.

Perhaps your beagle was a pussy? I had a pure bred blue tick beagle.

The blue tick beagle is a small hunting dog with a short coat that is partially mottled bluish-gray in color. It is a very friendly and intelligent breed that is often used for hunting rabbits and other small game.

Well your beagle is still a parasite that can not exist in the wild. People do not understand that wild dogs do not see breed, they just screw the bitch in heat irrespective of breed including wolves and coyotes. As such purebred dogs can never exist in the wild. LOL my 4 German Shorthairs could bite a bear on the ass and never be there when the bear turned around and run any beagle or bear to death.

PS Your tiny beagle will also not survive a northern winter in the woods, but since you live in the redneck shed.......Well u kno

PSS. One of my shorthairs actually handed my wife a rabbit once. Really

Today I have a PBGV. Somehow I got lucky when I found him because he's an amazing hunting dog. If I shoot a deer I go get him and show him where I shot the deer and in 1 minute he's on the deer trying to rip the hair off it's ass so he can get to the rump meat. It's like instinctively he does exactly what wolves would do. And when the dogs at the dog park pick on a dog he knows pack mentality so he joins the pack. That way he's never the one getting picked on.

He acts tough but as soon as the other dog shows their teeth, he becomes a pussy. So cute. I've even heard him yelp like a little girl before the dog even bit him. They just ran at him with their teeth showing and YELP! So cute. I love that little guy.

What's a PBGV?

One day a raccoon was walking through the woods. He ran up and bit it in the neck and shook it but he doesn't have that powerful of a bite. So the raccoon was fine. It turned around and was going to fuck my dog up and I grabbed my dog by the body hair and picked him up like a pillow. The raccoon was clung to him and he was just about to start fucking up my dog and I shook the raccoon off. WHEW!

P.S. I was watching my favorite tv show mountain men. One of the guys dogs didn't come home. In the morning he found it dead. But it was 15 years old and it was winter. Heck, even coyote's and wolves have dens where they sleep and keep warm. I feel sorry for the lone wolf who gets kicked out of his pack and has to live on his own.

 

[sealybobo]

Indeependent

Actually Since Floods leave scars on the Earth Surface that last well basically forever----------we can safely say that there never ever was a World Wide Flood as described in the Bible. NEVER happened. We also know through genetics and DNA----that one pair of animals would not be enough genetics to repopulate any species----well other than a virus maybe.

And what is "world wide", when you are a Neolithic people who never wandered more than two dozen miles from your home village?

Obviously, it is a flood that devastates everything in your region, because that is the "world" as far as you are concerned. If you live on that split of land between the Tigris and Euphrates rivers in 4,000 BCE and then everything as far as the eye can see is underwater, of course as far as you are concerned "the entire world flooded".

Obviously even trying to change your mindset to seeing things how people thousands of years ago viewed them is beyond your capability.

Excellent, see you are ok when not obsessed with fake trains

We are talking about evolution. What that has to do with trains, I have absolutely no idea.

There is no evolution between dogs and wolves as they are exactly the same species. That said I do like your baby gif, is that you or your Son?

Not true. Dogs are evolving too. Not into a new species at least not for a long time.

The dog, Canis familiaris, is a direct descendent of the gray wolf, Canis lupus: All modern dogs are descendants of wolves.

Now what about us? We are homo sapiens.

But humans are not descended from monkeys or any other primate living today. We do share a common ape ancestor with chimpanzees. It lived between 8 and 6 million years ago. But humans and chimpanzees evolved differently from that same ancestor.

Again dogs and wolves are exactly the same species,

Exactly?

and no breed of dog is evolved from the wolf, as no dog can exist in the wild.

(1) After an beagle had disappeared here in the near they found him 2 years later in the woods - he was very fat.

(2) If you say dogs are not able to survive but wolves are able to survive and you say the same time both are exactly the same species then something is wrong with this idea.

Sure some can but they rapidly either die with the survivors picking up wolf traits

The fact about a beagle even though they are great hunters is that they are short dogs with short legs meaning that they rarely catch anything on foot. The fact is that an eagle could choose to eat the beagle and not the other way around. Poor choice Fred as I owned a beagle once

Beagles can't catch a rabbit but I've seen my beagle kill a possum, water vole, muskrat, mole, mice, groundhog, etc.

Perhaps your beagle was a pussy? I had a pure bred blue tick beagle.

The blue tick beagle is a small hunting dog with a short coat that is partially mottled bluish-gray in color. It is a very friendly and intelligent breed that is often used for hunting rabbits and other small game.

Well your beagle is still a parasite that can not exist in the wild. People do not understand that wild dogs do not see breed, they just screw the bitch in heat irrespective of breed including wolves and coyotes. As such purebred dogs can never exist in the wild. LOL my 4 German Shorthairs could bite a bear on the ass and never be there when the bear turned around and run any beagle or bear to death.

PS Your tiny beagle will also not survive a northern winter in the woods, but since you live in the redneck shed.......Well u kno

PSS. One of my shorthairs actually handed my wife a rabbit once. Really

Here's my PBGV

 

[zaangalewa]

...

... No. That is not why. They don't make sense because they are ... nonsensical. ...

And I thought the sky is white and blue because it is white and blue.

What about all the science that explains why?

What changes nothing in a white and blue sky - except when the sun rises and it is black-red-golden.

 

[Dusty]

Indeependent

Actually Since Floods leave scars on the Earth Surface that last well basically forever----------we can safely say that there never ever was a World Wide Flood as described in the Bible. NEVER happened. We also know through genetics and DNA----that one pair of animals would not be enough genetics to repopulate any species----well other than a virus maybe.

And what is "world wide", when you are a Neolithic people who never wandered more than two dozen miles from your home village?

Obviously, it is a flood that devastates everything in your region, because that is the "world" as far as you are concerned. If you live on that split of land between the Tigris and Euphrates rivers in 4,000 BCE and then everything as far as the eye can see is underwater, of course as far as you are concerned "the entire world flooded".

Obviously even trying to change your mindset to seeing things how people thousands of years ago viewed them is beyond your capability.

Excellent, see you are ok when not obsessed with fake trains

We are talking about evolution. What that has to do with trains, I have absolutely no idea.

There is no evolution between dogs and wolves as they are exactly the same species. That said I do like your baby gif, is that you or your Son?

Not true. Dogs are evolving too. Not into a new species at least not for a long time.

The dog, Canis familiaris, is a direct descendent of the gray wolf, Canis lupus: All modern dogs are descendants of wolves.

Now what about us? We are homo sapiens.

But humans are not descended from monkeys or any other primate living today. We do share a common ape ancestor with chimpanzees. It lived between 8 and 6 million years ago. But humans and chimpanzees evolved differently from that same ancestor.

Again dogs and wolves are exactly the same species,

Exactly?

and no breed of dog is evolved from the wolf, as no dog can exist in the wild.

(1) After an beagle had disappeared here in the near they found him 2 years later in the woods - he was very fat.

(2) If you say dogs are not able to survive but wolves are able to survive and you say the same time both are exactly the same species then something is wrong with this idea.

Sure some can but they rapidly either die with the survivors picking up wolf traits

The fact about a beagle even though they are great hunters is that they are short dogs with short legs meaning that they rarely catch anything on foot. The fact is that an eagle could choose to eat the beagle and not the other way around. Poor choice Fred as I owned a beagle once

Beagles can't catch a rabbit but I've seen my beagle kill a possum, water vole, muskrat, mole, mice, groundhog, etc.

Perhaps your beagle was a pussy? I had a pure bred blue tick beagle.

The blue tick beagle is a small hunting dog with a short coat that is partially mottled bluish-gray in color. It is a very friendly and intelligent breed that is often used for hunting rabbits and other small game.

Well your beagle is still a parasite that can not exist in the wild. People do not understand that wild dogs do not see breed, they just screw the bitch in heat irrespective of breed including wolves and coyotes. As such purebred dogs can never exist in the wild. LOL my 4 German Shorthairs could bite a bear on the ass and never be there when the bear turned around and run any beagle or bear to death.

PS Your tiny beagle will also not survive a northern winter in the woods, but since you live in the redneck shed.......Well u kno

PSS. One of my shorthairs actually handed my wife a rabbit once. Really

Today I have a PBGV. Somehow I got lucky when I found him because he's an amazing hunting dog. If I shoot a deer I go get him and show him where I shot the deer and in 1 minute he's on the deer trying to rip the hair off it's ass so he can get to the rump meat. It's like instinctively he does exactly what wolves would do. And when the dogs at the dog park pick on a dog he knows pack mentality so he joins the pack. That way he's never the one getting picked on.

He acts tough but as soon as the other dog shows their teeth, he becomes a pussy. So cute. I've even heard him yelp like a little girl before the dog even bit him. They just ran at him with their teeth showing and YELP! So cute. I love that little guy.

What's a PBGV?

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One day a raccoon was walking through the woods. He ran up and bit it in the neck and shook it but he doesn't have that powerful of a bite. So the raccoon was fine. It turned around and was going to fuck my dog up and I grabbed my dog by the body hair and picked him up like a pillow. The raccoon was clung to him and he was just about to start fucking up my dog and I shook the raccoon off. WHEW!

P.S. I was watching my favorite tv show mountain men. One of the guys dogs didn't come home. In the morning he found it dead. But it was 15 years old and it was winter. Heck, even coyote's and wolves have dens where they sleep and keep warm. I feel sorry for the lone wolf who gets kicked out of his pack and has to live on his own.

No German Shorthair owner has ever shown their partner where any animal live or dead was or is. So if you are showing your dog where a deer is, from a hunting standpoint you just have the wrong dog. The photo also looks like a cross between a bearded collie and a basset hound, now since the Basset comes from the Bloodhound their tracking abilities are there, but as you say the prey must already be dead as there are no legs. GSP's hunt, track, point and retrieve, the tracking can be scent or sight or both, they are legendary and if you ever get one they will teach you much because they are the teacher to inferior humans where hunting is concerned. Not sure if you are French but the French actually have their own GSP and they call it the Braque Francais because well they are French and can not admit that the German is the best of the best, always.

I have the same picture except my dogs led me to the kill and not the other way around

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[zaangalewa]

I don't have a science background and don't know much about evolution but I believe the answer to my question is YES. What say you? Here's an article that delves into the topic.

From Wolves to Pugs and Great Danes – The History of Dog Breeds

Updated October 24, 2024 – Learn about the evolution of dogs and how they went from wolves to the loving pets we keep in our homes.

www.morrisanimalfoundation.org

Nope.. Its a result of selective breeding.

Nope? ... No hope? ... Absolutelly wrong?

Where do you see the difference between "selective breeding" and "natural selection"? We use the natural law evolution since about 20,000 years when some wolves decided to make us responsible for their lifes. Looks like we made not a bad job for them.

Dogs are not evolved from wolves as they are both still the same species,

Some genes are different. Dogs understand human voices and gestures. The understand for exampel what it means to point on a thing. Apes don't understand this gesture. Wolves also not as far as I know.

the dog however is actually been partly de-evolved and is now a parasite living off of humans

And not to forget: Many people see in the word "evolution" only a method to disclassify all unborn babies, all dogs, all Blacks, all Latinos, all Indians (red or not red) and all women - into the category "parasites" = "people, who like to steal my money, only because it is their money".

Or with other words: the relations between dogs and human beings are synergetic. They are for us here on this planet - and we are for them here on this planet. An average dog is by the way a master in psychology - compared with the average grown up male weaponed US-American. Proof: I never gave any of this male bullies any treat.

Pointers are not doing anything different than a wolf, in fact these abilities are all natural to wolves. A modern dog is genetically 99.9 percent wolf so no evolution is present

Only to make something clear. You are able to see with your own eyes in nature that wolves and dogs are different entities. Wolves do not bark for example. They are not able to interpret the behavior of human beings - dogs are able to do so. But you ignore all this differencens because you "measure" what your are not really able ot measure. "99.9% same DNA" is an empty phrase - nothing else. So what for heavens sake do you call "science"?

Dogs and wolves share 99.9 percent of their DNA, they can interbreed BECAUSE THEY ARE THE SAME SPECIES. This is not up for discussion, and wolves do bark, growl, whimper and howl just as dogs do

Okay: The difference in the DNA between a man and a woman is a similar difference as the difference between a man and an ape. So why for heavens sake don't understand women apes ... ah sorry: men? Because this is a problem of the DNA? Or because men and women are a different species?

Dogs are dogs - wolves are wolves. Wolves know this difference and avoid human beings. Dogs know the difference and attack wolves. Human beings know nothing and tell since centuries - or even milleniums - stories about wolves, which are nearly all together a totally stupid nonsense. Not any wolve story ever was true. ... Except stories, where for example some US-Americans, who work in and for national parks, found out that wolves are able to correct ecological systems and are able to bring this systems back into a sane balance. In this context it is for example interesting that woods exist because carnivores exist. So Starship Enterprise knows automatically if they see woods on a planet then there live also dangerous animals on this planet.

PS: And wolves are able to bark but they never bark - except they are whelps.

 

[sealybobo]

Indeependent

Actually Since Floods leave scars on the Earth Surface that last well basically forever----------we can safely say that there never ever was a World Wide Flood as described in the Bible. NEVER happened. We also know through genetics and DNA----that one pair of animals would not be enough genetics to repopulate any species----well other than a virus maybe.

And what is "world wide", when you are a Neolithic people who never wandered more than two dozen miles from your home village?

Obviously, it is a flood that devastates everything in your region, because that is the "world" as far as you are concerned. If you live on that split of land between the Tigris and Euphrates rivers in 4,000 BCE and then everything as far as the eye can see is underwater, of course as far as you are concerned "the entire world flooded".

Obviously even trying to change your mindset to seeing things how people thousands of years ago viewed them is beyond your capability.

Excellent, see you are ok when not obsessed with fake trains

We are talking about evolution. What that has to do with trains, I have absolutely no idea.

There is no evolution between dogs and wolves as they are exactly the same species. That said I do like your baby gif, is that you or your Son?

Not true. Dogs are evolving too. Not into a new species at least not for a long time.

The dog, Canis familiaris, is a direct descendent of the gray wolf, Canis lupus: All modern dogs are descendants of wolves.

Now what about us? We are homo sapiens.

But humans are not descended from monkeys or any other primate living today. We do share a common ape ancestor with chimpanzees. It lived between 8 and 6 million years ago. But humans and chimpanzees evolved differently from that same ancestor.

Again dogs and wolves are exactly the same species,

Exactly?

and no breed of dog is evolved from the wolf, as no dog can exist in the wild.

(1) After an beagle had disappeared here in the near they found him 2 years later in the woods - he was very fat.

(2) If you say dogs are not able to survive but wolves are able to survive and you say the same time both are exactly the same species then something is wrong with this idea.

Sure some can but they rapidly either die with the survivors picking up wolf traits

The fact about a beagle even though they are great hunters is that they are short dogs with short legs meaning that they rarely catch anything on foot. The fact is that an eagle could choose to eat the beagle and not the other way around. Poor choice Fred as I owned a beagle once

Beagles can't catch a rabbit but I've seen my beagle kill a possum, water vole, muskrat, mole, mice, groundhog, etc.

Perhaps your beagle was a pussy? I had a pure bred blue tick beagle.

The blue tick beagle is a small hunting dog with a short coat that is partially mottled bluish-gray in color. It is a very friendly and intelligent breed that is often used for hunting rabbits and other small game.

Well your beagle is still a parasite that can not exist in the wild. People do not understand that wild dogs do not see breed, they just screw the bitch in heat irrespective of breed including wolves and coyotes. As such purebred dogs can never exist in the wild. LOL my 4 German Shorthairs could bite a bear on the ass and never be there when the bear turned around and run any beagle or bear to death.

PS Your tiny beagle will also not survive a northern winter in the woods, but since you live in the redneck shed.......Well u kno

PSS. One of my shorthairs actually handed my wife a rabbit once. Really

Today I have a PBGV. Somehow I got lucky when I found him because he's an amazing hunting dog. If I shoot a deer I go get him and show him where I shot the deer and in 1 minute he's on the deer trying to rip the hair off it's ass so he can get to the rump meat. It's like instinctively he does exactly what wolves would do. And when the dogs at the dog park pick on a dog he knows pack mentality so he joins the pack. That way he's never the one getting picked on.

He acts tough but as soon as the other dog shows their teeth, he becomes a pussy. So cute. I've even heard him yelp like a little girl before the dog even bit him. They just ran at him with their teeth showing and YELP! So cute. I love that little guy.

What's a PBGV?

View attachment 507656

One day a raccoon was walking through the woods. He ran up and bit it in the neck and shook it but he doesn't have that powerful of a bite. So the raccoon was fine. It turned around and was going to fuck my dog up and I grabbed my dog by the body hair and picked him up like a pillow. The raccoon was clung to him and he was just about to start fucking up my dog and I shook the raccoon off. WHEW!

P.S. I was watching my favorite tv show mountain men. One of the guys dogs didn't come home. In the morning he found it dead. But it was 15 years old and it was winter. Heck, even coyote's and wolves have dens where they sleep and keep warm. I feel sorry for the lone wolf who gets kicked out of his pack and has to live on his own.

No German Shorthair owner has ever shown their partner where any animal live or dead was or is. So if you are showing your dog where a deer is, from a hunting standpoint you just have the wrong dog. The photo also looks like a cross between a bearded collie and a basset hound, now since the Basset comes from the Bloodhound their tracking abilities are there, but as you say the prey must already be dead as there are no legs. GSP's hunt, track, point and retrieve, the tracking can be scent or sight or both, they are legendary and if you ever get one they will teach you much because they are the teacher to inferior humans where hunting is concerned. Not sure if you are French but the French actually have their own GSP and they call it the Braque Francais because well they are French and can not admit that the German is the best of the best, always.

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I said I showed my dog where I shot the deer. He then picked up the blood trail and ran right to the deer. I actually had to wait because if the thing wasn't dead yet my dog would have made him get up and run further into the woods.

PBGV. Petite (small) Bassett Griffon Vendeen. Vendee is the town in France where the breed came from.

 

[sealybobo]

Indeependent

Actually Since Floods leave scars on the Earth Surface that last well basically forever----------we can safely say that there never ever was a World Wide Flood as described in the Bible. NEVER happened. We also know through genetics and DNA----that one pair of animals would not be enough genetics to repopulate any species----well other than a virus maybe.

And what is "world wide", when you are a Neolithic people who never wandered more than two dozen miles from your home village?

Obviously, it is a flood that devastates everything in your region, because that is the "world" as far as you are concerned. If you live on that split of land between the Tigris and Euphrates rivers in 4,000 BCE and then everything as far as the eye can see is underwater, of course as far as you are concerned "the entire world flooded".

Obviously even trying to change your mindset to seeing things how people thousands of years ago viewed them is beyond your capability.

Excellent, see you are ok when not obsessed with fake trains

We are talking about evolution. What that has to do with trains, I have absolutely no idea.

There is no evolution between dogs and wolves as they are exactly the same species. That said I do like your baby gif, is that you or your Son?

Not true. Dogs are evolving too. Not into a new species at least not for a long time.

The dog, Canis familiaris, is a direct descendent of the gray wolf, Canis lupus: All modern dogs are descendants of wolves.

Now what about us? We are homo sapiens.

But humans are not descended from monkeys or any other primate living today. We do share a common ape ancestor with chimpanzees. It lived between 8 and 6 million years ago. But humans and chimpanzees evolved differently from that same ancestor.

Again dogs and wolves are exactly the same species,

Exactly?

and no breed of dog is evolved from the wolf, as no dog can exist in the wild.

(1) After an beagle had disappeared here in the near they found him 2 years later in the woods - he was very fat.

(2) If you say dogs are not able to survive but wolves are able to survive and you say the same time both are exactly the same species then something is wrong with this idea.

Sure some can but they rapidly either die with the survivors picking up wolf traits

The fact about a beagle even though they are great hunters is that they are short dogs with short legs meaning that they rarely catch anything on foot. The fact is that an eagle could choose to eat the beagle and not the other way around. Poor choice Fred as I owned a beagle once

Beagles can't catch a rabbit but I've seen my beagle kill a possum, water vole, muskrat, mole, mice, groundhog, etc.

Perhaps your beagle was a pussy? I had a pure bred blue tick beagle.

The blue tick beagle is a small hunting dog with a short coat that is partially mottled bluish-gray in color. It is a very friendly and intelligent breed that is often used for hunting rabbits and other small game.

Well your beagle is still a parasite that can not exist in the wild. People do not understand that wild dogs do not see breed, they just screw the bitch in heat irrespective of breed including wolves and coyotes. As such purebred dogs can never exist in the wild. LOL my 4 German Shorthairs could bite a bear on the ass and never be there when the bear turned around and run any beagle or bear to death.

PS Your tiny beagle will also not survive a northern winter in the woods, but since you live in the redneck shed.......Well u kno

PSS. One of my shorthairs actually handed my wife a rabbit once. Really

Today I have a PBGV. Somehow I got lucky when I found him because he's an amazing hunting dog. If I shoot a deer I go get him and show him where I shot the deer and in 1 minute he's on the deer trying to rip the hair off it's ass so he can get to the rump meat. It's like instinctively he does exactly what wolves would do. And when the dogs at the dog park pick on a dog he knows pack mentality so he joins the pack. That way he's never the one getting picked on.

He acts tough but as soon as the other dog shows their teeth, he becomes a pussy. So cute. I've even heard him yelp like a little girl before the dog even bit him. They just ran at him with their teeth showing and YELP! So cute. I love that little guy.

What's a PBGV?

View attachment 507656

One day a raccoon was walking through the woods. He ran up and bit it in the neck and shook it but he doesn't have that powerful of a bite. So the raccoon was fine. It turned around and was going to fuck my dog up and I grabbed my dog by the body hair and picked him up like a pillow. The raccoon was clung to him and he was just about to start fucking up my dog and I shook the raccoon off. WHEW!

P.S. I was watching my favorite tv show mountain men. One of the guys dogs didn't come home. In the morning he found it dead. But it was 15 years old and it was winter. Heck, even coyote's and wolves have dens where they sleep and keep warm. I feel sorry for the lone wolf who gets kicked out of his pack and has to live on his own.

No German Shorthair owner has ever shown their partner where any animal live or dead was or is. So if you are showing your dog where a deer is, from a hunting standpoint you just have the wrong dog. The photo also looks like a cross between a bearded collie and a basset hound, now since the Basset comes from the Bloodhound their tracking abilities are there, but as you say the prey must already be dead as there are no legs. GSP's hunt, track, point and retrieve, the tracking can be scent or sight or both, they are legendary and if you ever get one they will teach you much because they are the teacher to inferior humans where hunting is concerned. Not sure if you are French but the French actually have their own GSP and they call it the Braque Francais because well they are French and can not admit that the German is the best of the best, always.

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The Petit Basset Griffon Vendéen is a small scent houndwho has won the hearts of millions. Although the dog breedappears to be designed for winsome cuteness, in actuality, PBGVs are tough hunters who were developed for a specific purpose: to hunt small game in the rough terrain of the Vendeen region of France.

 

[Dusty]

Indeependent

Actually Since Floods leave scars on the Earth Surface that last well basically forever----------we can safely say that there never ever was a World Wide Flood as described in the Bible. NEVER happened. We also know through genetics and DNA----that one pair of animals would not be enough genetics to repopulate any species----well other than a virus maybe.

And what is "world wide", when you are a Neolithic people who never wandered more than two dozen miles from your home village?

Obviously, it is a flood that devastates everything in your region, because that is the "world" as far as you are concerned. If you live on that split of land between the Tigris and Euphrates rivers in 4,000 BCE and then everything as far as the eye can see is underwater, of course as far as you are concerned "the entire world flooded".

Obviously even trying to change your mindset to seeing things how people thousands of years ago viewed them is beyond your capability.

Excellent, see you are ok when not obsessed with fake trains

We are talking about evolution. What that has to do with trains, I have absolutely no idea.

There is no evolution between dogs and wolves as they are exactly the same species. That said I do like your baby gif, is that you or your Son?

Not true. Dogs are evolving too. Not into a new species at least not for a long time.

The dog, Canis familiaris, is a direct descendent of the gray wolf, Canis lupus: All modern dogs are descendants of wolves.

Now what about us? We are homo sapiens.

But humans are not descended from monkeys or any other primate living today. We do share a common ape ancestor with chimpanzees. It lived between 8 and 6 million years ago. But humans and chimpanzees evolved differently from that same ancestor.

Again dogs and wolves are exactly the same species,

Exactly?

and no breed of dog is evolved from the wolf, as no dog can exist in the wild.

(1) After an beagle had disappeared here in the near they found him 2 years later in the woods - he was very fat.

(2) If you say dogs are not able to survive but wolves are able to survive and you say the same time both are exactly the same species then something is wrong with this idea.

Sure some can but they rapidly either die with the survivors picking up wolf traits

The fact about a beagle even though they are great hunters is that they are short dogs with short legs meaning that they rarely catch anything on foot. The fact is that an eagle could choose to eat the beagle and not the other way around. Poor choice Fred as I owned a beagle once

Beagles can't catch a rabbit but I've seen my beagle kill a possum, water vole, muskrat, mole, mice, groundhog, etc.

Perhaps your beagle was a pussy? I had a pure bred blue tick beagle.

The blue tick beagle is a small hunting dog with a short coat that is partially mottled bluish-gray in color. It is a very friendly and intelligent breed that is often used for hunting rabbits and other small game.

Well your beagle is still a parasite that can not exist in the wild. People do not understand that wild dogs do not see breed, they just screw the bitch in heat irrespective of breed including wolves and coyotes. As such purebred dogs can never exist in the wild. LOL my 4 German Shorthairs could bite a bear on the ass and never be there when the bear turned around and run any beagle or bear to death.

PS Your tiny beagle will also not survive a northern winter in the woods, but since you live in the redneck shed.......Well u kno

PSS. One of my shorthairs actually handed my wife a rabbit once. Really

Today I have a PBGV. Somehow I got lucky when I found him because he's an amazing hunting dog. If I shoot a deer I go get him and show him where I shot the deer and in 1 minute he's on the deer trying to rip the hair off it's ass so he can get to the rump meat. It's like instinctively he does exactly what wolves would do. And when the dogs at the dog park pick on a dog he knows pack mentality so he joins the pack. That way he's never the one getting picked on.

He acts tough but as soon as the other dog shows their teeth, he becomes a pussy. So cute. I've even heard him yelp like a little girl before the dog even bit him. They just ran at him with their teeth showing and YELP! So cute. I love that little guy.

What's a PBGV?

View attachment 507656

One day a raccoon was walking through the woods. He ran up and bit it in the neck and shook it but he doesn't have that powerful of a bite. So the raccoon was fine. It turned around and was going to fuck my dog up and I grabbed my dog by the body hair and picked him up like a pillow. The raccoon was clung to him and he was just about to start fucking up my dog and I shook the raccoon off. WHEW!

P.S. I was watching my favorite tv show mountain men. One of the guys dogs didn't come home. In the morning he found it dead. But it was 15 years old and it was winter. Heck, even coyote's and wolves have dens where they sleep and keep warm. I feel sorry for the lone wolf who gets kicked out of his pack and has to live on his own.

No German Shorthair owner has ever shown their partner where any animal live or dead was or is. So if you are showing your dog where a deer is, from a hunting standpoint you just have the wrong dog. The photo also looks like a cross between a bearded collie and a basset hound, now since the Basset comes from the Bloodhound their tracking abilities are there, but as you say the prey must already be dead as there are no legs. GSP's hunt, track, point and retrieve, the tracking can be scent or sight or both, they are legendary and if you ever get one they will teach you much because they are the teacher to inferior humans where hunting is concerned. Not sure if you are French but the French actually have their own GSP and they call it the Braque Francais because well they are French and can not admit that the German is the best of the best, always.

​

I said I showed my dog where I shot the deer. He then picked up the blood trail and ran right to the deer. I actually had to wait because if the thing wasn't dead yet my dog would have made him get up and run further into the woods.

PBGV. Petite (small) Bassett Griffon Vendeen. Vendee is the town in France where the breed came from.

Again no GSP owner ever shows their GSP an animal or trail, really this happens the other way around as the GSP seems to know the unknowable and does not need the handler for anything. The fact is that GSP owners understand this and all others are wannabees including English Pointer owners who's doggies are afraid to get their feet wet. Again the best French hunter is the Braque Francais which is merely an unrefined GSP.

 

[sealybobo]

Indeependent

Actually Since Floods leave scars on the Earth Surface that last well basically forever----------we can safely say that there never ever was a World Wide Flood as described in the Bible. NEVER happened. We also know through genetics and DNA----that one pair of animals would not be enough genetics to repopulate any species----well other than a virus maybe.

And what is "world wide", when you are a Neolithic people who never wandered more than two dozen miles from your home village?

Obviously, it is a flood that devastates everything in your region, because that is the "world" as far as you are concerned. If you live on that split of land between the Tigris and Euphrates rivers in 4,000 BCE and then everything as far as the eye can see is underwater, of course as far as you are concerned "the entire world flooded".

Obviously even trying to change your mindset to seeing things how people thousands of years ago viewed them is beyond your capability.

Excellent, see you are ok when not obsessed with fake trains

We are talking about evolution. What that has to do with trains, I have absolutely no idea.

There is no evolution between dogs and wolves as they are exactly the same species. That said I do like your baby gif, is that you or your Son?

Not true. Dogs are evolving too. Not into a new species at least not for a long time.

The dog, Canis familiaris, is a direct descendent of the gray wolf, Canis lupus: All modern dogs are descendants of wolves.

Now what about us? We are homo sapiens.

But humans are not descended from monkeys or any other primate living today. We do share a common ape ancestor with chimpanzees. It lived between 8 and 6 million years ago. But humans and chimpanzees evolved differently from that same ancestor.

Again dogs and wolves are exactly the same species,

Exactly?

and no breed of dog is evolved from the wolf, as no dog can exist in the wild.

(1) After an beagle had disappeared here in the near they found him 2 years later in the woods - he was very fat.

(2) If you say dogs are not able to survive but wolves are able to survive and you say the same time both are exactly the same species then something is wrong with this idea.

Sure some can but they rapidly either die with the survivors picking up wolf traits

The fact about a beagle even though they are great hunters is that they are short dogs with short legs meaning that they rarely catch anything on foot. The fact is that an eagle could choose to eat the beagle and not the other way around. Poor choice Fred as I owned a beagle once

Beagles can't catch a rabbit but I've seen my beagle kill a possum, water vole, muskrat, mole, mice, groundhog, etc.

Perhaps your beagle was a pussy? I had a pure bred blue tick beagle.

The blue tick beagle is a small hunting dog with a short coat that is partially mottled bluish-gray in color. It is a very friendly and intelligent breed that is often used for hunting rabbits and other small game.

Well your beagle is still a parasite that can not exist in the wild. People do not understand that wild dogs do not see breed, they just screw the bitch in heat irrespective of breed including wolves and coyotes. As such purebred dogs can never exist in the wild. LOL my 4 German Shorthairs could bite a bear on the ass and never be there when the bear turned around and run any beagle or bear to death.

PS Your tiny beagle will also not survive a northern winter in the woods, but since you live in the redneck shed.......Well u kno

PSS. One of my shorthairs actually handed my wife a rabbit once. Really

Today I have a PBGV. Somehow I got lucky when I found him because he's an amazing hunting dog. If I shoot a deer I go get him and show him where I shot the deer and in 1 minute he's on the deer trying to rip the hair off it's ass so he can get to the rump meat. It's like instinctively he does exactly what wolves would do. And when the dogs at the dog park pick on a dog he knows pack mentality so he joins the pack. That way he's never the one getting picked on.

He acts tough but as soon as the other dog shows their teeth, he becomes a pussy. So cute. I've even heard him yelp like a little girl before the dog even bit him. They just ran at him with their teeth showing and YELP! So cute. I love that little guy.

What's a PBGV?

View attachment 507656

One day a raccoon was walking through the woods. He ran up and bit it in the neck and shook it but he doesn't have that powerful of a bite. So the raccoon was fine. It turned around and was going to fuck my dog up and I grabbed my dog by the body hair and picked him up like a pillow. The raccoon was clung to him and he was just about to start fucking up my dog and I shook the raccoon off. WHEW!

P.S. I was watching my favorite tv show mountain men. One of the guys dogs didn't come home. In the morning he found it dead. But it was 15 years old and it was winter. Heck, even coyote's and wolves have dens where they sleep and keep warm. I feel sorry for the lone wolf who gets kicked out of his pack and has to live on his own.

No German Shorthair owner has ever shown their partner where any animal live or dead was or is. So if you are showing your dog where a deer is, from a hunting standpoint you just have the wrong dog. The photo also looks like a cross between a bearded collie and a basset hound, now since the Basset comes from the Bloodhound their tracking abilities are there, but as you say the prey must already be dead as there are no legs. GSP's hunt, track, point and retrieve, the tracking can be scent or sight or both, they are legendary and if you ever get one they will teach you much because they are the teacher to inferior humans where hunting is concerned. Not sure if you are French but the French actually have their own GSP and they call it the Braque Francais because well they are French and can not admit that the German is the best of the best, always.

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I said I showed my dog where I shot the deer. He then picked up the blood trail and ran right to the deer. I actually had to wait because if the thing wasn't dead yet my dog would have made him get up and run further into the woods.

PBGV. Petite (small) Bassett Griffon Vendeen. Vendee is the town in France where the breed came from.

Again no GSP owner ever shows their GSP an animal or trail, really this happens the other way around as the GSP seems to know the unknowable and does not need the handler for anything. The fact is that GSP owners understand this and all others are wannabees including English Pointer owners who's doggies are afraid to get their feet wet. Again the best French hunter is the Braque Francais which is merely an unrefined GSP.

I was wondering what kind of dog does the guy on Mountain Men use for hunting mountain lions.

Blue tick coonhounds are the preferred choice for most, but black and tan hounds, leopard curs and redbone hounds are also used.

On Mountain men one guy uses Treeing Walker Coonhounds

 

[sealybobo]

Indeependent

Actually Since Floods leave scars on the Earth Surface that last well basically forever----------we can safely say that there never ever was a World Wide Flood as described in the Bible. NEVER happened. We also know through genetics and DNA----that one pair of animals would not be enough genetics to repopulate any species----well other than a virus maybe.

And what is "world wide", when you are a Neolithic people who never wandered more than two dozen miles from your home village?

Obviously, it is a flood that devastates everything in your region, because that is the "world" as far as you are concerned. If you live on that split of land between the Tigris and Euphrates rivers in 4,000 BCE and then everything as far as the eye can see is underwater, of course as far as you are concerned "the entire world flooded".

Obviously even trying to change your mindset to seeing things how people thousands of years ago viewed them is beyond your capability.

Excellent, see you are ok when not obsessed with fake trains

We are talking about evolution. What that has to do with trains, I have absolutely no idea.

There is no evolution between dogs and wolves as they are exactly the same species. That said I do like your baby gif, is that you or your Son?

Not true. Dogs are evolving too. Not into a new species at least not for a long time.

The dog, Canis familiaris, is a direct descendent of the gray wolf, Canis lupus: All modern dogs are descendants of wolves.

Now what about us? We are homo sapiens.

But humans are not descended from monkeys or any other primate living today. We do share a common ape ancestor with chimpanzees. It lived between 8 and 6 million years ago. But humans and chimpanzees evolved differently from that same ancestor.

Again dogs and wolves are exactly the same species,

Exactly?

and no breed of dog is evolved from the wolf, as no dog can exist in the wild.

(1) After an beagle had disappeared here in the near they found him 2 years later in the woods - he was very fat.

(2) If you say dogs are not able to survive but wolves are able to survive and you say the same time both are exactly the same species then something is wrong with this idea.

Sure some can but they rapidly either die with the survivors picking up wolf traits

The fact about a beagle even though they are great hunters is that they are short dogs with short legs meaning that they rarely catch anything on foot. The fact is that an eagle could choose to eat the beagle and not the other way around. Poor choice Fred as I owned a beagle once

Beagles can't catch a rabbit but I've seen my beagle kill a possum, water vole, muskrat, mole, mice, groundhog, etc.

Perhaps your beagle was a pussy? I had a pure bred blue tick beagle.

The blue tick beagle is a small hunting dog with a short coat that is partially mottled bluish-gray in color. It is a very friendly and intelligent breed that is often used for hunting rabbits and other small game.

Well your beagle is still a parasite that can not exist in the wild. People do not understand that wild dogs do not see breed, they just screw the bitch in heat irrespective of breed including wolves and coyotes. As such purebred dogs can never exist in the wild. LOL my 4 German Shorthairs could bite a bear on the ass and never be there when the bear turned around and run any beagle or bear to death.

PS Your tiny beagle will also not survive a northern winter in the woods, but since you live in the redneck shed.......Well u kno

PSS. One of my shorthairs actually handed my wife a rabbit once. Really

Today I have a PBGV. Somehow I got lucky when I found him because he's an amazing hunting dog. If I shoot a deer I go get him and show him where I shot the deer and in 1 minute he's on the deer trying to rip the hair off it's ass so he can get to the rump meat. It's like instinctively he does exactly what wolves would do. And when the dogs at the dog park pick on a dog he knows pack mentality so he joins the pack. That way he's never the one getting picked on.

He acts tough but as soon as the other dog shows their teeth, he becomes a pussy. So cute. I've even heard him yelp like a little girl before the dog even bit him. They just ran at him with their teeth showing and YELP! So cute. I love that little guy.

What's a PBGV?

View attachment 507656

One day a raccoon was walking through the woods. He ran up and bit it in the neck and shook it but he doesn't have that powerful of a bite. So the raccoon was fine. It turned around and was going to fuck my dog up and I grabbed my dog by the body hair and picked him up like a pillow. The raccoon was clung to him and he was just about to start fucking up my dog and I shook the raccoon off. WHEW!

P.S. I was watching my favorite tv show mountain men. One of the guys dogs didn't come home. In the morning he found it dead. But it was 15 years old and it was winter. Heck, even coyote's and wolves have dens where they sleep and keep warm. I feel sorry for the lone wolf who gets kicked out of his pack and has to live on his own.

No German Shorthair owner has ever shown their partner where any animal live or dead was or is. So if you are showing your dog where a deer is, from a hunting standpoint you just have the wrong dog. The photo also looks like a cross between a bearded collie and a basset hound, now since the Basset comes from the Bloodhound their tracking abilities are there, but as you say the prey must already be dead as there are no legs. GSP's hunt, track, point and retrieve, the tracking can be scent or sight or both, they are legendary and if you ever get one they will teach you much because they are the teacher to inferior humans where hunting is concerned. Not sure if you are French but the French actually have their own GSP and they call it the Braque Francais because well they are French and can not admit that the German is the best of the best, always.

I have the same picture except my dogs led me to the kill and not the other way around

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Oh yea those GSP's are great dogs. I see them at the dog park. Or back in the woods like my dog they love to run free in the woods. Only my dog may one day get eaten by a coyote. I think a GSP would be safe don't you? Not against a pack of coyotes at night but in general, they are big and fast enough they'll get away and come run back to you. My stupid dog chased after a fox once. I was screaming GET BACK and he ran over the hill so I couldn't see him. Next thing I know he's running towards me and the thing is galloping behind him. At the time I thought coyote but now I'm pretty sure it was a fox. I saw another one came real close at my house when I had the dog. Almost daring the dog to come chase him. I think they are playing, right? Or is the fox trying to eat my dog?

I can't believe I can't tell the difference between a fox and coyote but it's always dark when I see them. Dark enough I can't tell. I think I see the fluffy fox tail so I think it's a fox but fox and coyote kind of look similar in the dark.

 

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Actually Since Floods leave scars on the Earth Surface that last well basically forever----------we can safely say that there never ever was a World Wide Flood as described in the Bible. NEVER happened. We also know through genetics and DNA----that one pair of animals would not be enough genetics to repopulate any species----well other than a virus maybe.

And what is "world wide", when you are a Neolithic people who never wandered more than two dozen miles from your home village?

Obviously, it is a flood that devastates everything in your region, because that is the "world" as far as you are concerned. If you live on that split of land between the Tigris and Euphrates rivers in 4,000 BCE and then everything as far as the eye can see is underwater, of course as far as you are concerned "the entire world flooded".

Obviously even trying to change your mindset to seeing things how people thousands of years ago viewed them is beyond your capability.

Excellent, see you are ok when not obsessed with fake trains

We are talking about evolution. What that has to do with trains, I have absolutely no idea.

There is no evolution between dogs and wolves as they are exactly the same species. That said I do like your baby gif, is that you or your Son?

Not true. Dogs are evolving too. Not into a new species at least not for a long time.

The dog, Canis familiaris, is a direct descendent of the gray wolf, Canis lupus: All modern dogs are descendants of wolves.

Now what about us? We are homo sapiens.

But humans are not descended from monkeys or any other primate living today. We do share a common ape ancestor with chimpanzees. It lived between 8 and 6 million years ago. But humans and chimpanzees evolved differently from that same ancestor.

Again dogs and wolves are exactly the same species,

Exactly?

and no breed of dog is evolved from the wolf, as no dog can exist in the wild.

(1) After an beagle had disappeared here in the near they found him 2 years later in the woods - he was very fat.

(2) If you say dogs are not able to survive but wolves are able to survive and you say the same time both are exactly the same species then something is wrong with this idea.

Sure some can but they rapidly either die with the survivors picking up wolf traits

The fact about a beagle even though they are great hunters is that they are short dogs with short legs meaning that they rarely catch anything on foot. The fact is that an eagle could choose to eat the beagle and not the other way around. Poor choice Fred as I owned a beagle once

Beagles can't catch a rabbit but I've seen my beagle kill a possum, water vole, muskrat, mole, mice, groundhog, etc.

Perhaps your beagle was a pussy? I had a pure bred blue tick beagle.

The blue tick beagle is a small hunting dog with a short coat that is partially mottled bluish-gray in color. It is a very friendly and intelligent breed that is often used for hunting rabbits and other small game.

Well your beagle is still a parasite that can not exist in the wild. People do not understand that wild dogs do not see breed, they just screw the bitch in heat irrespective of breed including wolves and coyotes. As such purebred dogs can never exist in the wild. LOL my 4 German Shorthairs could bite a bear on the ass and never be there when the bear turned around and run any beagle or bear to death.

PS Your tiny beagle will also not survive a northern winter in the woods, but since you live in the redneck shed.......Well u kno

PSS. One of my shorthairs actually handed my wife a rabbit once. Really

Today I have a PBGV. Somehow I got lucky when I found him because he's an amazing hunting dog. If I shoot a deer I go get him and show him where I shot the deer and in 1 minute he's on the deer trying to rip the hair off it's ass so he can get to the rump meat. It's like instinctively he does exactly what wolves would do. And when the dogs at the dog park pick on a dog he knows pack mentality so he joins the pack. That way he's never the one getting picked on.

He acts tough but as soon as the other dog shows their teeth, he becomes a pussy. So cute. I've even heard him yelp like a little girl before the dog even bit him. They just ran at him with their teeth showing and YELP! So cute. I love that little guy.

What's a PBGV?

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One day a raccoon was walking through the woods. He ran up and bit it in the neck and shook it but he doesn't have that powerful of a bite. So the raccoon was fine. It turned around and was going to fuck my dog up and I grabbed my dog by the body hair and picked him up like a pillow. The raccoon was clung to him and he was just about to start fucking up my dog and I shook the raccoon off. WHEW!

P.S. I was watching my favorite tv show mountain men. One of the guys dogs didn't come home. In the morning he found it dead. But it was 15 years old and it was winter. Heck, even coyote's and wolves have dens where they sleep and keep warm. I feel sorry for the lone wolf who gets kicked out of his pack and has to live on his own.

No German Shorthair owner has ever shown their partner where any animal live or dead was or is. So if you are showing your dog where a deer is, from a hunting standpoint you just have the wrong dog. The photo also looks like a cross between a bearded collie and a basset hound, now since the Basset comes from the Bloodhound their tracking abilities are there, but as you say the prey must already be dead as there are no legs. GSP's hunt, track, point and retrieve, the tracking can be scent or sight or both, they are legendary and if you ever get one they will teach you much because they are the teacher to inferior humans where hunting is concerned. Not sure if you are French but the French actually have their own GSP and they call it the Braque Francais because well they are French and can not admit that the German is the best of the best, always.

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I said I showed my dog where I shot the deer. He then picked up the blood trail and ran right to the deer. I actually had to wait because if the thing wasn't dead yet my dog would have made him get up and run further into the woods.

PBGV. Petite (small) Bassett Griffon Vendeen. Vendee is the town in France where the breed came from.

Again no GSP owner ever shows their GSP an animal or trail, really this happens the other way around as the GSP seems to know the unknowable and does not need the handler for anything. The fact is that GSP owners understand this and all others are wannabees including English Pointer owners who's doggies are afraid to get their feet wet. Again the best French hunter is the Braque Francais which is merely an unrefined GSP.

I was wondering what kind of dog does the guy on Mountain Men use for hunting mountain lions.

Blue tick coonhounds are the preferred choice for most, but black and tan hounds, leopard curs and redbone hounds are also used.

On Mountain men one guy uses Treeing Walker Coonhounds

It would never occur to me to even think about using a dog to trail a lion as the lion can just turn around and kill 6 dogs in rapid succession as a mountain lion can slap a dog and break it's spine instantly. Then again it would never occur to me to hunt something as beautiful as a mountain lion in the first place.