Are religions ultimately good or bad?

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Was thinking about this last night watching the various news channels. And the thought occured 'if all religions are teaching us how to be good, but they're all ultimately lies, is the fact they're lies overriding their messages of being good?' Since it's beyond dispute nothing caused more war and strife than disagreements over religion, is it redeemable that they're teaching goodness, if the balance of religion is mired in blood and bigotry? If gods exist, but refuse to prove it, or do anything overt and undeniable, should they even be worshipped as gods? Like the children's tv show, "Pirate Who Don't Do Anything" I figure if a deity never does anything, is it still a deity? Is it still worthy of being worshipped?

There's more reason to worship the Sun as a deity than any anthropomorphic being who never does anything. Whether you believe in the Sun as a deity or not, if you lie out naked and exposed to it all day during summer you'll become convinced it's real when it burns your skin. And surely we're all the products of stars going nova and forming the atoms which make up our bodies "creating" us. And surely without the Sun there could be no life here on Earth. Compare this to any deity wit an extant religion woven around it and they all come up short on the empirical side of things.

So while our religions teach us to be good, the plethora of versions (some 25,000 distinct religions to date and many more denominations within each) cause so much hate and violence are they really worth clinging to in the 21st century? They may have been good ideas when they were founded, and before large scale governments came to be imposing laws onto those they governed, but if all they do now is cause misery and fear, why are we keeping them around?

Secular humanism teaches everything the Abramic faiths do minus the need for an unproveable deity who never does anything.

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If any one 'religion' could unite the entire world, surely one that doesn't claim to be the only true one would be it. I think that that's humanism.
 

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I tend to think that our efforts to take of the widow and the fatherless and to keep ourselves unspotted from the world are good.
 

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For the species:

Religion taught humans the value of organizing around a common goal.

Religion taught humans the value of preserving thoughts across time via the written word.

Religion is a necessary tool used by evolution and Time to build a Sentient World from a living wet rock.



On a more individualistic note, once the inevitability of death is fully realized by some humans, religion is all that separates them from a debilitating and psychopathic fear of death, not only for themselves, but also for their loved ones; thus preserving a certain modicum of societal productivity.



The true test of Sentience is maintaining productive composure even after the inevitable is accepted.

The true test of love is is understanding that some folks truly do need the hope that only religion can deliver.
 

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Are religions ultimately good or bad?


there is only one religion, a Spirits pursuit of the Everlasting.

an almost unanimous failure rate is the problem ... when reading a book is their guiding light.



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Was thinking about this last night watching the various news channels. And the thought occured 'if all religions are teaching us how to be good, but they're all ultimately lies, is the fact they're lies overriding their messages of being good?' Since it's beyond dispute nothing caused more war and strife than disagreements over religion,

Jesus said to Nicodemas, "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."

This is what separates the gospel from religion.

Religion is man's effort to reach up to God; but Christianity is God reaching Man.
In his heart man knows there is a God. That is why there are so many religions in the world, because man has invented so many to account for the knowledge that is in him.
Salvation is God coming down to man and making him a new creation (2 Cor. 5:17).
Not religion, but relationship.
2 Peter 3:17-18, Growing in Grace | Christian Apologetics and Research Ministry

Religion means to re-link to God but you can't re-link because:

Isaiah 59:2 But your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid his face from you, that he will not hear.

There is nothing you can do because God won't hear. You have to let Jesus come down to you and you have to accept His gift of eternal life.
 

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Was thinking about this last night watching the various news channels. And the thought occured 'if all religions are teaching us how to be good, but they're all ultimately lies, is the fact they're lies overriding their messages of being good?' Since it's beyond dispute nothing caused more war and strife than disagreements over religion, is it redeemable that they're teaching goodness, if the balance of religion is mired in blood and bigotry? If gods exist, but refuse to prove it, or do anything overt and undeniable, should they even be worshipped as gods? Like the children's tv show, "Pirate Who Don't Do Anything" I figure if a deity never does anything, is it still a deity? Is it still worthy of being worshipped?

There's more reason to worship the Sun as a deity than any anthropomorphic being who never does anything. Whether you believe in the Sun as a deity or not, if you lie out naked and exposed to it all day during summer you'll become convinced it's real when it burns your skin. And surely we're all the products of stars going nova and forming the atoms which make up our bodies "creating" us. And surely without the Sun there could be no life here on Earth. Compare this to any deity wit an extant religion woven around it and they all come up short on the empirical side of things.

So while our religions teach us to be good, the plethora of versions (some 25,000 distinct religions to date and many more denominations within each) cause so much hate and violence are they really worth clinging to in the 21st century? They may have been good ideas when they were founded, and before large scale governments came to be imposing laws onto those they governed, but if all they do now is cause misery and fear, why are we keeping them around?

Secular humanism teaches everything the Abramic faiths do minus the need for an unproveable deity who never does anything.

Humanist Manifesto III

If any one 'religion' could unite the entire world, surely one that doesn't claim to be the only true one would be it. I think that that's humanism.
God used religions, religious ideas and religious people to teach His people how to build things so that He could use them as analogies to help us saints understand our invisible created existence as wavelengths of energy within His mind. So religion was a good cause for our Creator's purpose during this first age. However, once He's done working with His last saint, which is my flesh, He will end this age with a total destruction of the crust of this earth. In fact, the earth's crust will be melted by hot molten lava after it explodes through the crust on the Lord's Day.
 

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Was thinking about this last night watching the various news channels. And the thought occured 'if all religions are teaching us how to be good, but they're all ultimately lies, is the fact they're lies overriding their messages of being good?' Since it's beyond dispute nothing caused more war and strife than disagreements over religion, is it redeemable that they're teaching goodness, if the balance of religion is mired in blood and bigotry? If gods exist, but refuse to prove it, or do anything overt and undeniable, should they even be worshipped as gods? Like the children's tv show, "Pirate Who Don't Do Anything" I figure if a deity never does anything, is it still a deity? Is it still worthy of being worshipped?

There's more reason to worship the Sun as a deity than any anthropomorphic being who never does anything. Whether you believe in the Sun as a deity or not, if you lie out naked and exposed to it all day during summer you'll become convinced it's real when it burns your skin. And surely we're all the products of stars going nova and forming the atoms which make up our bodies "creating" us. And surely without the Sun there could be no life here on Earth. Compare this to any deity wit an extant religion woven around it and they all come up short on the empirical side of things.

So while our religions teach us to be good, the plethora of versions (some 25,000 distinct religions to date and many more denominations within each) cause so much hate and violence are they really worth clinging to in the 21st century? They may have been good ideas when they were founded, and before large scale governments came to be imposing laws onto those they governed, but if all they do now is cause misery and fear, why are we keeping them around?

Secular humanism teaches everything the Abramic faiths do minus the need for an unproveable deity who never does anything.

Humanist Manifesto III

If any one 'religion' could unite the entire world, surely one that doesn't claim to be the only true one would be it. I think that that's humanism.



" Since it's beyond dispute nothing caused more war and strife than disagreements over religion,.."


Absolutely false.
 
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Was thinking about this last night watching the various news channels. And the thought occured 'if all religions are teaching us how to be good, but they're all ultimately lies, is the fact they're lies overriding their messages of being good?' Since it's beyond dispute nothing caused more war and strife than disagreements over religion,

Jesus said to Nicodemas, "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."

This is what separates the gospel from religion.

Religion is man's effort to reach up to God; but Christianity is God reaching Man.
In his heart man knows there is a God. That is why there are so many religions in the world, because man has invented so many to account for the knowledge that is in him.
Salvation is God coming down to man and making him a new creation (2 Cor. 5:17).
Not religion, but relationship.
2 Peter 3:17-18, Growing in Grace | Christian Apologetics and Research Ministry

Religion means to re-link to God but you can't re-link because:

Isaiah 59:2 But your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid his face from you, that he will not hear.

There is nothing you can do because God won't hear. You have to let Jesus come down to you and you have to accept His gift of eternal life.
Before saying something in the NT is counterindicated because of something in the OT, it's important to realize they're two mutually exclusive religions seperated by centuries in their authorship. The Bible should include only the NT. Adding the OT is like if Islam added the NT to their Qur'an. Not only is it offensive, but it's obviously not going to make any sense.
 
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Was thinking about this last night watching the various news channels. And the thought occured 'if all religions are teaching us how to be good, but they're all ultimately lies, is the fact they're lies overriding their messages of being good?' Since it's beyond dispute nothing caused more war and strife than disagreements over religion, is it redeemable that they're teaching goodness, if the balance of religion is mired in blood and bigotry? If gods exist, but refuse to prove it, or do anything overt and undeniable, should they even be worshipped as gods? Like the children's tv show, "Pirate Who Don't Do Anything" I figure if a deity never does anything, is it still a deity? Is it still worthy of being worshipped?

There's more reason to worship the Sun as a deity than any anthropomorphic being who never does anything. Whether you believe in the Sun as a deity or not, if you lie out naked and exposed to it all day during summer you'll become convinced it's real when it burns your skin. And surely we're all the products of stars going nova and forming the atoms which make up our bodies "creating" us. And surely without the Sun there could be no life here on Earth. Compare this to any deity wit an extant religion woven around it and they all come up short on the empirical side of things.

So while our religions teach us to be good, the plethora of versions (some 25,000 distinct religions to date and many more denominations within each) cause so much hate and violence are they really worth clinging to in the 21st century? They may have been good ideas when they were founded, and before large scale governments came to be imposing laws onto those they governed, but if all they do now is cause misery and fear, why are we keeping them around?

Secular humanism teaches everything the Abramic faiths do minus the need for an unproveable deity who never does anything.

Humanist Manifesto III

If any one 'religion' could unite the entire world, surely one that doesn't claim to be the only true one would be it. I think that that's humanism.



" Since it's beyond dispute nothing caused more war and strife than disagreements over religion,.."


Absolutely false.
So...Your arguement is only "nuh-uh." No supporting evidence?
 

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In just the last century secular/humanist ideologies and atheistic communism gave us;

WWI, Russian/Bolshvick revolution 1917, WWII, Stalin's purges, Mao's communist revolution in China, Vietnam War, Pol Pot's genocide in Cambodia, etc.

Which killed 100's of millions of people and had 'Zero' to due with religion.

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In just the last century secular/humanist ideologies and atheistic communism gave us;

WWI, Russian/Bolshvick revolution 1917, WWII, Stalin's purges, Mao's communist revolution in China, Vietnam War, Pol Pot's genocide in Cambodia, etc.

Which killed 100's of millions of people and had 'Zero' to due with religion.

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If Christians had not been trying to push their religious false gods and ideals in this world, it would be a much more peaceful world. They were used to kill 100's of millions of people in their native countries that Christians coveted and stole from them.
 

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Secular humanism teaches everything the Abramic faiths do minus the need for an unproveable deity who never does anything.
Hitler's religious plagiarism called "national socialism" is once again emerged under a new name "secular humanism". Just look at the words, they mean the same thing.
 

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Like all things religion can be both good and bad.

It's the same with all human creations and behaviors.

Attempting to paint anything as wholly good or wholly bad is folly.
 

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Like all things religion can be both good and bad.

It's the same with all human creations and behaviors.

Attempting to paint anything as wholly good or wholly bad is folly.
Who is painting? None of them ever know how to prove the time. Recently, I was on the phone with a teacher, she claims to be a Jew one day, a Humanist another, she is totally devoted to manufacture a religion to justify her student loan debts, her anti-American political zeal, etc. Just to mention God to her at all, she's likely to flip out, cursing everyone of being some sort of Westboro Baptist freak. Meanwhile, she tells me that she's marking the exams written by her students, accuses them of being brainwashed because they have opinions about Israel and Palestine. And her job is to teach religion. So, in all her efforts, what is she really doing?
 

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There's more reason to worship the Sun as a deity than any anthropomorphic being who never does anything.
I have to disagree here. Lots of believers would tell you that God has made a difference in their lives, and a positive one at that. They have really experienced the presence and the Healing power of God even if it does not magically solve their everyday problems... It would be an exaggeration and a blatant falsehood to claim that God makes himself known to whoever seeks after him. Yet it appears to be true in some cases.
 
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Would say believing He made a difference, and empiricly doing so is the difference. Regardless of what you believe about the Sun, it'll burn you if you lie out exposed to it. Whereas religions proper are all basicly a placebo-effect. If you believe, things can happen. But the Sun's effects happen regardless of what you might believe.
 

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Are religions ultimately good or bad?
Religions are a tax fee scam, bigger than identity theft. In fact, it is identity theft...of God.
 

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Was thinking about this last night watching the various news channels. And the thought occured 'if all religions are teaching us how to be good, but they're all ultimately lies, is the fact they're lies overriding their messages of being good?' Since it's beyond dispute nothing caused more war and strife than disagreements over religion, is it redeemable that they're teaching goodness, if the balance of religion is mired in blood and bigotry? If gods exist, but refuse to prove it, or do anything overt and undeniable, should they even be worshipped as gods? Like the children's tv show, "Pirate Who Don't Do Anything" I figure if a deity never does anything, is it still a deity? Is it still worthy of being worshipped?

There's more reason to worship the Sun as a deity than any anthropomorphic being who never does anything. Whether you believe in the Sun as a deity or not, if you lie out naked and exposed to it all day during summer you'll become convinced it's real when it burns your skin. And surely we're all the products of stars going nova and forming the atoms which make up our bodies "creating" us. And surely without the Sun there could be no life here on Earth. Compare this to any deity wit an extant religion woven around it and they all come up short on the empirical side of things.

So while our religions teach us to be good, the plethora of versions (some 25,000 distinct religions to date and many more denominations within each) cause so much hate and violence are they really worth clinging to in the 21st century? They may have been good ideas when they were founded, and before large scale governments came to be imposing laws onto those they governed, but if all they do now is cause misery and fear, why are we keeping them around?

Secular humanism teaches everything the Abramic faiths do minus the need for an unproveable deity who never does anything.

Humanist Manifesto III

If any one 'religion' could unite the entire world, surely one that doesn't claim to be the only true one would be it. I think that that's humanism.



" Since it's beyond dispute nothing caused more war and strife than disagreements over religion,.."


Absolutely false.
So...Your arguement is only "nuh-uh." No supporting evidence?


No prob.....


First World War (1914–18): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 15 million
Russian Civil War (1917–22): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 9 million
Soviet Union, Stalin’s regime (1924–53): . . . . . . . . . 20 million
Second World War (1937–45): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 55 million
Chinese Civil War (1945–49): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2.5 million
People’s Republic of China, Mao Zedong’s
regime (1949–75): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 40 million
Tibet (1950 et seq.): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 600,000
Congo Free State (1886–1908): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 8 million
Mexico (1910–20): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 million
Turkish massacres of Armenians (1915–23): . . . . . 1.5 million
China (1917–28): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 800,000
China, Nationalist era (1928–37): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3.1 million
Korean War (1950–53): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2.8 million
North Korea (1948 et seq.): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2 million
Rwanda and Burundi (1959–95): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1.35 million
Second Indochina War (1960–75): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3.5 million
Ethiopia (1962–92): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 400,000
Nigeria (1966–70): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 million
Bangladesh (1971): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1.25 million
Cambodia, Khmer Rouge (1975–78): . . . . . . . . . . . 1.65 million
Mozambique (1975–92): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 million
Afghanistan (1979–2001): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1.8 million
Iran–Iraq War (1980–88): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 million
Sudan (1983 et seq.): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1.9 million
Kinshasa, Congo (1998 et seq.): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3.8 million
Philippines Insurgency (1899–1902): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 220,000
Brazil (1900 et seq.): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 500,000
Amazonia (1900–1912): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 250,000
Portuguese colonies (1900–1925): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 325,000
French colonies (1900–1940): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 200,000
Japanese War (1904–5): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 130,000
German East Africa (1905–7): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 175,000
Libya (1911–31): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 125,000
Balkan Wars (1912–13): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 140,000
Greco–Turkish War (1919–22): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 250,000
Spanish Civil War (1936–39): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 365,000
Franco Regime (1939–75): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 100,000
Abyssinian Conquest (1935–41): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 400,000
Finnish War (1939–40): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 150,000
Greek Civil War (1943–49): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 158,000
Yugoslavia, Tito’s regime (1944–80): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 200,000
First Indochina War (1945–54): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 400,000
Colombia (1946–58): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 200,000
India (1947): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 500,000
Romania (1948–89): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 150,000
Burma/Myanmar (1948 et seq.): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 130,000
Algeria (1954–62): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 537,000
Sudan (1955–72): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 500,000
Guatemala (1960–96): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 200,000
Indonesia (1965–66): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 400,000
Uganda, Idi Amin’s regime (1972–79): . . . . . . . . . . . . . 300,000
Vietnam, postwar Communist regime
(1975 et seq.): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 430,000
Angola (1975–2002): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 550,000
East Timor, conquest by Indonesia (1975–99): . . . . . 200,000
Lebanon (1975–90): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 150,000
Cambodian Civil War (1978–91): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 225,000
Iraq, Saddam Hussein (1979–2003): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 300,000
Uganda (1979–86): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 300,000
Kurdistan (1980s, 1990s): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 300,000
Liberia (1989–97): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 150,000
Iraq (1990– ): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 350,000
Bosnia and Herzegovina (1992–95): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 175,000
Somalia (1991 et seq.): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 400,000
David Berlinski, "The Devil's Delusion"



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In just the last century secular/humanist ideologies and atheistic communism gave us;

WWI, Russian/Bolshvick revolution 1917, WWII, Stalin's purges, Mao's communist revolution in China, Vietnam War, Pol Pot's genocide in Cambodia, etc.

Which killed 100's of millions of people and had 'Zero' to due with religion.

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You've mentioned Pol Pot....the highly educated communist supported by the Left in this nation....

Hope you don't mind if I add this reminder:


1. Starting in April ’75, the Communist Khmer Rouge defeated Lon Nol in Cambodia. Democrats, starting with the 1974 budget, refused to allocate another penny, and forbade US military action “in or over” Indochina. Just as the right had warned, the communists began a systematic war on the entire populations of their nation, so savage, it is hard to comprehend. It is estimated that the number of dead numbered between 1.7 to 2.5 million out of a population of around 8 million. Killing Fields - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


a. Frequently found in totalitarian death cults, the Khmer Rouge cadres were mostly teenagers, some as young as ten or twelve, produced by cruelty and indoctrination. Consistent with other communist conquests, the Khmer Rouge began the massive and grotesque project of remaking society from scratch. They began by emptying the cities: every single person in Phnom Penh- including the lame, hospital patients on intravenous drips, the sick and the elderly, mothers who had just given birth, the pregnant, and infants, - everyone was forced to march. Khmer Rouge rule of Cambodia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


b. “The pedicab did not move to the side of the road so a soldier killed the driver with machine gun fire….A young soldier thrust his rifle through the window of the car, then shot the driver through the heart, and he crumpled in the arms of his wife…”I’m going to pick up my family,” Without warning, a soldier sprayed him with machine gun bullets….The frantic parents protested and sought to reclaim their children on the other side of the communist column. The patrol leader thereupon fired a volley of rifle shots, killing both mother and father.”
Barron and Paul, “Murder of a Gentle Land, “ p.26-28.


c. Later, to save bullets, the Khmer Rouge switched to other methods of execution, including clubbing, asphyxiation, and dousing the head with gasoline and setting it on fire. Courtois, et.al., “The Black Book of Communism,” p. 611




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" Since it's beyond dispute nothing caused more war and strife than disagreements over religion,.."


Absolutely false.
So...Your arguement is only "nuh-uh." No supporting evidence?


No prob.....


First World War (1914–18): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 15 million
Russian Civil War (1917–22): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 9 million
Soviet Union, Stalin’s regime (1924–53): . . . . . . . . . 20 million
Second World War (1937–45): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 55 million
Chinese Civil War (1945–49): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2.5 million
People’s Republic of China, Mao Zedong’s
regime (1949–75): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 40 million
Tibet (1950 et seq.): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 600,000
Congo Free State (1886–1908): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 8 million
Mexico (1910–20): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 million
Turkish massacres of Armenians (1915–23): . . . . . 1.5 million
China (1917–28): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 800,000
China, Nationalist era (1928–37): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3.1 million
Korean War (1950–53): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2.8 million
North Korea (1948 et seq.): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2 million
Rwanda and Burundi (1959–95): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1.35 million
Second Indochina War (1960–75): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3.5 million
Ethiopia (1962–92): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 400,000
Nigeria (1966–70): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 million
Bangladesh (1971): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1.25 million
Cambodia, Khmer Rouge (1975–78): . . . . . . . . . . . 1.65 million
Mozambique (1975–92): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 million
Afghanistan (1979–2001): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1.8 million
Iran–Iraq War (1980–88): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 million
Sudan (1983 et seq.): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1.9 million
Kinshasa, Congo (1998 et seq.): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3.8 million
Philippines Insurgency (1899–1902): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 220,000
Brazil (1900 et seq.): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 500,000
Amazonia (1900–1912): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 250,000
Portuguese colonies (1900–1925): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 325,000
French colonies (1900–1940): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 200,000
Japanese War (1904–5): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 130,000
German East Africa (1905–7): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 175,000
Libya (1911–31): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 125,000
Balkan Wars (1912–13): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 140,000
Greco–Turkish War (1919–22): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 250,000
Spanish Civil War (1936–39): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 365,000
Franco Regime (1939–75): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 100,000
Abyssinian Conquest (1935–41): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 400,000
Finnish War (1939–40): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 150,000
Greek Civil War (1943–49): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 158,000
Yugoslavia, Tito’s regime (1944–80): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 200,000
First Indochina War (1945–54): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 400,000
Colombia (1946–58): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 200,000
India (1947): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 500,000
Romania (1948–89): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 150,000
Burma/Myanmar (1948 et seq.): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 130,000
Algeria (1954–62): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 537,000
Sudan (1955–72): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 500,000
Guatemala (1960–96): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 200,000
Indonesia (1965–66): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 400,000
Uganda, Idi Amin’s regime (1972–79): . . . . . . . . . . . . . 300,000
Vietnam, postwar Communist regime
(1975 et seq.): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 430,000
Angola (1975–2002): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 550,000
East Timor, conquest by Indonesia (1975–99): . . . . . 200,000
Lebanon (1975–90): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 150,000
Cambodian Civil War (1978–91): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 225,000
Iraq, Saddam Hussein (1979–2003): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 300,000
Uganda (1979–86): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 300,000
Kurdistan (1980s, 1990s): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 300,000
Liberia (1989–97): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 150,000
Iraq (1990– ): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 350,000
Bosnia and Herzegovina (1992–95): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 175,000
Somalia (1991 et seq.): . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 400,000
David Berlinski, "The Devil's Delusion"



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Nope. Looking through your list, none of those had religious elements eh? When Arab Muslims kill each other it's not because of differences in religion (Sunni v Shia?) Some of those were valid, WWI for example. Some were not.
 

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