Read a few pages of this thread...
If this thread was example then Liberals look a lot more tolerant of ideas than the conservatives on this board. Saying there is a conservative agenda that is reasonable and has basis in fairness... I believe American politics has deformed those in to team sports Red team v Blue Team....
Fascinating that you have set up your own personal parameters as the necessary standard for the argument, and then blithely expected others to accept them. Exactly when did we say that WE view "fairness" as the Holy Grail we're striving for? This ain't kindergarten, Chuckles, and only children and those who think like them blither on about utterly subjective words like that. Sensible and workable, yes. "Fair"? Right after I worry about whether or not the conservative agenda encompasses Unicorn Rights and appeals to the Care Bear voter demographic.
Red team has been caught lying more times than Blue team but that is like saying which NFL player is taking less drugs.
In what parallel dimension is this true? The one where "caught lying" is defined as "the media actually mentioned it, and Cowboy Ted could be persuaded to acknowledge that it happened"? Not impressed.
Personally I think there is a need for more electable parties so the crazies in all parties can be dumped out of them.
"Electable parties". I'm guessing that means "people so bland and vapid that even partisan media hacks can't demonize them sufficiently".
"Youtube is the be-all and end-all of truth!" You're definitely convincing me that leftists are intelligent, informed, and insightful. No, really.
This could increase third, fourth and fifth party... Thus expanding the representation into more groups so the members can find better choice in those groups... Think of it like market freedom... People can vote for their favourite without jeopardizing their vote, So you can vote Libertarian without wasting your vote for a more likely conservative candidate.
Also unlike the need for primaries Parties can run multiple candidates in multi-seat elections.
Blithering about parties is another way of saying, "I'm too shallow to look at real and difficult problems and consider solutions, so I kneejerk back to my hatred of the cliques in high school who ignored my lame ass." You couldn't undo the human tendency to group up then, and you can't now. And the insistence on denying human nature is one of the main reasons leftists aren't viewed as very bright.
These systems are used by a vast majority of countries with only a few countries left who don't use this type of system.
This would fundamentally change US politics for the good, more representative, less incumbents, more responsive government...
Please name for us some countries who have vast numbers of splinter parties and factions, leaders who are elected by small pluralities because of this, and are models and efficiency and freedom that we should emulate. Aaaaaand . . . GO!