Are conservatives smarter than liberals?

[Wry Catcher]

The boarder is more secure under the current administration than under the former President

Riiiiight he's not luring 10's of thousands of illegals across the border with his partial amnesty and promise not to deport them. I mean its laughable, good luck selling that.

FY 2013 ICE Immigration Removals ICE

Now BL can post something from Lou Dobbs (who? LOL) or Glen Beck or Rush Limbaugh and call me a troll.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

Matthew 25:34-40 - The Final Judgment

34 “Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom

prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave

me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked

after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’

37 “Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink?

38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’

40 “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’

You're desperate...

The Conservative donates their money...

The Liberal donates the Taxpayers money...

That is not true.
Cons and Libs equally give donations. Just to different types of charities.
When it's a big natural disaster both give.

Oh that is no where NEAR true... it's not even a debatable point. This has been studied to death and the Ideological Left is amongst the most stingy organism on earth.

To even try and suggest otherwise is ludicrous, to the point of presenting delusion.

One doesn't become second only to DISEASE as the most lethal threat to humanity, having murdered 100 million people IN PEACETIME in JUST THE LAST CENTURY ALONE, as the Ideological Left has did AND be known for one's financial generosity... .

Your Ideology rests ENTIRELY upon the premise that YOU DESERVE EQUAL POSSESSIONS< WEALTH< AND HEALTH WITH EVERYONE ELSE... and this without regard to ANY SENSE of responsibility for your having FAILED TO EARN ANY OF IT.

That is sociopathy on a grand scale and there one glaring trait of the sociopath is its disregard for the well being of anything else, other than itself.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

The boarder is more secure under the current administration than under the former President

Riiiiight he's not luring 10's of thousands of illegals across the border with his partial amnesty and promise not to deport them. I mean its laughable, good luck selling that.

FY 2013 ICE Immigration Removals ICE

Now BL can post something from Lou Dobbs (who? LOL) or Glen Beck or Rush Limbaugh and call me a troll.

ROFLMNAO! PUHLEASE... .

Those stats have been THOROUGHLY REFUTED... in truth, the obama cult counts 'arrests' of illegals as 'RETURNS'/'Removal'. Thus the hysterically inflated (FRAUDULENT) numbers which deceitfully attempt to influence the ignorant by fooling them into BELIEVING that obama is deporting more illegals than Bush did.

The facts show otherwise, with Bush having sent ORDERS of MAGNITUDE more illegals BACK across the border... by adding 'arrests' into the equation, THEN fraudulently combining "RETURNS" AND "REMOVALS"... the numbers skew deceitfully to make it APPEAR as tho' obama is a deporter in chief. In truth obama has sent home a minor percentage of the number of illegals sent packing by his predecessors.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

There's no point of a Leftist making promises... as there's no potential for credibility behind the assertion.

Another poster proves the point of the thread. Really...what adult would say anything like that?

The left lies repeatedly to the point that they cannot be trusted and trust is everything. Compromise, finding common ground, working together, you can forget it. Take gun control, the left has no intention of stopping after reaching a compromise. The left being dishonest liars fully intend to keep coming back whittling away at our rights until they get 100% of what they want. Therefore the left can just pound sand, we don't want to compromise with you we want to destroy you.

This may be a record. BluesLegend (BL) has came aboard only a bit more than a month ago and already proved himself(?) a proud and loud member of the Crazy New Right and the Echo Chamber.

This will be fun. Soon Rabbit, CrusaderFrank, Stephanie and the other Crazy New Right members will friend him and soon he will even begin to believe he has something of substance to post. Be prepared for the release of Dumb and Dumber III.

Your concession is duly noted and summarily accepted.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

Oh Brother !
Talk about brainwashed

I see your indoctrination is complete. Even the icon of the right, F.A Hayek would dismiss today's social Darwinist conservatives.

"There is no reason why, in a society which has reached the general level of wealth ours has, (the certainty of a given minimum of sustenance) should not be guaranteed to all without endangering general freedom; that is: some minimum of food, shelter and clothing, sufficient to preserve health. Nor is there any reason why the state should not help to organize a comprehensive system of social insurance in providing for those common hazards of life against which few can make adequate provision."
Friedrich August von Hayek-The Road to Serfdom

"Conservatism, though a necessary element in any stable society, is not a social program; in its paternalistic, nationalistic and power adoring tendencies it is often closer to socialism than true liberalism; and with its traditionalistic, anti-intellectual, and often mystical propensities it will never, except in short periods of disillusionment, appeal to the young and all those others who believe that some changes are desirable if this world is to become a better place."
Friedrich August von Hayek-The Road to Serfdom

"In general, it can probably be said that the conservative does not object to coercion or arbitrary power so long as it is used for what he regards as the right purposes. He believes that if government is in the hands of decent men, it ought not to be too much restricted by rigid rules. Since he is essentially opportunist and lacks principles..."
Friedrich August von Hayek-Why I am Not a Conservative

Nor is there any reason why the state should not help to organize a comprehensive system of social insurance in providing for those common hazards of life against which few can make adequate provision."
I agree with this 100%.
The problem we have is our system of social safety nets has mushroomed into a multi trillion dollar hodgepodge of programs for every conceivable condition, syndrome, possibility etc. The fact that almost HALF the US population receives at least some form of public assistance should shame anyone who supports this system of making poverty comfortable into having to hide their face in public.
But no...You people insist it is never enough. Tax more. Tax at a higher rate you say.
None of which is going to m ake anyone less poor or raise them out of poverty.
What these taxpayer funded giveaways accomplish is twofold. One, it creates more opportunity to grow the size of government
Two, provides an endlessly growing source of votes for those who use their positions of power to make sure the goodies are always there.
Social giveaways ( entitlements) have always been about acquiring and retention of political power for democrats.

You've got bat shit crazy misconceptions about liberals. You must not ever talk to any, instead you just babble on about what you've heard about liberals from righty pundits

So these Leftists on this site; you're saying, that you people aren't fairly representing what you are: HERE?

Really?

And why would that be the case do ya think?

None of the liberals on this site support a multi trillion dollar hodgepodge of programs for every conceivable condition, syndrome, possibility etc. or making poverty comfortable into having to hide their faces in public.

I also don't hear them say tax more and tax at a higher rate so nobody gets out of poverty.

I don't hear them wanting to grow the size of government, and increase social giveaways, medicare and social security excepted.

These are things you're told liberals are saying, and they're not saying those things.

Just like Obama has not said he wants to destroy America.

WOW~

That presents a breath-taking delusion, that is truly not to be believed.

Your concession is duly noted and summarily accepted.

 

[toxicmedia]

I see your indoctrination is complete. Even the icon of the right, F.A Hayek would dismiss today's social Darwinist conservatives.

"There is no reason why, in a society which has reached the general level of wealth ours has, (the certainty of a given minimum of sustenance) should not be guaranteed to all without endangering general freedom; that is: some minimum of food, shelter and clothing, sufficient to preserve health. Nor is there any reason why the state should not help to organize a comprehensive system of social insurance in providing for those common hazards of life against which few can make adequate provision."
Friedrich August von Hayek-The Road to Serfdom

"Conservatism, though a necessary element in any stable society, is not a social program; in its paternalistic, nationalistic and power adoring tendencies it is often closer to socialism than true liberalism; and with its traditionalistic, anti-intellectual, and often mystical propensities it will never, except in short periods of disillusionment, appeal to the young and all those others who believe that some changes are desirable if this world is to become a better place."
Friedrich August von Hayek-The Road to Serfdom

"In general, it can probably be said that the conservative does not object to coercion or arbitrary power so long as it is used for what he regards as the right purposes. He believes that if government is in the hands of decent men, it ought not to be too much restricted by rigid rules. Since he is essentially opportunist and lacks principles..."
Friedrich August von Hayek-Why I am Not a Conservative

Nor is there any reason why the state should not help to organize a comprehensive system of social insurance in providing for those common hazards of life against which few can make adequate provision."
I agree with this 100%.
The problem we have is our system of social safety nets has mushroomed into a multi trillion dollar hodgepodge of programs for every conceivable condition, syndrome, possibility etc. The fact that almost HALF the US population receives at least some form of public assistance should shame anyone who supports this system of making poverty comfortable into having to hide their face in public.
But no...You people insist it is never enough. Tax more. Tax at a higher rate you say.
None of which is going to m ake anyone less poor or raise them out of poverty.
What these taxpayer funded giveaways accomplish is twofold. One, it creates more opportunity to grow the size of government
Two, provides an endlessly growing source of votes for those who use their positions of power to make sure the goodies are always there.
Social giveaways ( entitlements) have always been about acquiring and retention of political power for democrats.

You've got bat shit crazy misconceptions about liberals. You must not ever talk to any, instead you just babble on about what you've heard about liberals from righty pundits

So these Leftists on this site; you're saying, that you people aren't fairly representing what you are: HERE?

Really?

And why would that be the case do ya think?

None of the liberals on this site support a multi trillion dollar hodgepodge of programs for every conceivable condition, syndrome, possibility etc. or making poverty comfortable into having to hide their faces in public.

I also don't hear them say tax more and tax at a higher rate so nobody gets out of poverty.

I don't hear them wanting to grow the size of government, and increase social giveaways, medicare and social security excepted.

These are things you're told liberals are saying, and they're not saying those things.

Just like Obama has not said he wants to destroy America.

WOW~

That presents a breath-taking delusion, that is truly not to be believed.

Your concession is duly noted and summarily accepted.

I expected you to end with the equivalent to "I know you are but what am I"

Could you not find examples of liberals or Obama saying the things you've been told they say?...

I already know the answer, you can't.

 

[peach174]

Matthew 25:34-40 - The Final Judgment

34 “Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom

prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave

me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked

after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’

37 “Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink?

38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’

40 “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’

You're desperate...

The Conservative donates their money...

The Liberal donates the Taxpayers money...

That is not true.
Cons and Libs equally give donations. Just to different types of charities.
When it's a big natural disaster both give.

Oh that is no where NEAR true... it's not even a debatable point. This has been studied to death and the Ideological Left is amongst the most stingy organism on earth.

To even try and suggest otherwise is ludicrous, to the point of presenting delusion.

One doesn't become second only to DISEASE as the most lethal threat to humanity, having murdered 100 million people IN PEACETIME in JUST THE LAST CENTURY ALONE, as the Ideological Left has did AND be known for one's financial generosity... .

Your Ideology rests ENTIRELY upon the premise that YOU DESERVE EQUAL POSSESSIONS< WEALTH< AND HEALTH WITH EVERYONE ELSE... and this without regard to ANY SENSE of responsibility for your having FAILED TO EARN ANY OF IT.

That is sociopathy on a grand scale and there one glaring trait of the sociopath is its disregard for the well being of anything else, other than itself.

Read the link
Study Conservatives and liberals are equally charitable but they give to different charities - The Washington Post

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

I expected you to end with the equivalent to "I know you are but what am I"

LOL!

Look scamp... if you were to take the position that the "SUN IS A GREAT VACATION DESTINATION", this would not send me searching for 'evidence' to disprove, discredit or otherwise refute your absurdity.

And, just to be clear... IF you need to 'feel' that the Sun is a great vacation destination, I'm perfectly fine with that.

Your reputation is yours and I've no investment in it, whatsoever.

So... I could not care less what rock you crash your credibility upon. Be it the Sun, or the any of the host of ludicrous notions wherein the Left, on this or any other board, has not since the inception of the respective board, up to this very moment provided endless examples of their infinite capacity to advocate for every conceivable foreign notion which are hostile to every American principle.

And if you need to believe that my lack of concern for your feelings proves you right? That's fine with me, as one of the downsides to having no concern for one's credibility is that one gives a red rats ass about what ya say.

See how that works?

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

Matthew 25:34-40 - The Final Judgment

34 “Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom

prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave

me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked

after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’

37 “Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink?

38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’

40 “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’

You're desperate...

The Conservative donates their money...

The Liberal donates the Taxpayers money...

That is not true.
Cons and Libs equally give donations. Just to different types of charities.
When it's a big natural disaster both give.

Oh that is no where NEAR true... it's not even a debatable point. This has been studied to death and the Ideological Left is amongst the most stingy organism on earth.

To even try and suggest otherwise is ludicrous, to the point of presenting delusion.

One doesn't become second only to DISEASE as the most lethal threat to humanity, having murdered 100 million people IN PEACETIME in JUST THE LAST CENTURY ALONE, as the Ideological Left has did AND be known for one's financial generosity... .

Your Ideology rests ENTIRELY upon the premise that YOU DESERVE EQUAL POSSESSIONS< WEALTH< AND HEALTH WITH EVERYONE ELSE... and this without regard to ANY SENSE of responsibility for your having FAILED TO EARN ANY OF IT.

That is sociopathy on a grand scale and there one glaring trait of the sociopath is its disregard for the well being of anything else, other than itself.

Read the link
Study Conservatives and liberals are equally charitable but they give to different charities - The Washington Post

ROFLMNAO~


That is ADORABLE! It really is...

Here's the thing: A charitable people, CANNOT advocate for the confiscation of the property of others, as a means to enhance their own holdings.

Which means that a CHARITABLE PEOPLE cannot try to drive the price of one person's healthcare UP, in order to provide healthcare to someone ELSE! And that is BECAUSE: TO DO THAT DEPRIVES OTHERS OF THE USE OF THEIR PROPERTY...

That means you take something from someone else... AND THAT IS THEFT: AND THAT:

>>> is the OPPOSITE of CHARITY <<<​

 

[Wry Catcher]

There's no point of a Leftist making promises... as there's no potential for credibility behind the assertion.

Another poster proves the point of the thread. Really...what adult would say anything like that?

The left lies repeatedly to the point that they cannot be trusted and trust is everything. Compromise, finding common ground, working together, you can forget it. Take gun control, the left has no intention of stopping after reaching a compromise. The left being dishonest liars fully intend to keep coming back whittling away at our rights until they get 100% of what they want. Therefore the left can just pound sand, we don't want to compromise with you we want to destroy you.

This may be a record. BluesLegend (BL) has came aboard only a bit more than a month ago and already proved himself(?) a proud and loud member of the Crazy New Right and the Echo Chamber.

This will be fun. Soon Rabbit, CrusaderFrank, Stephanie and the other Crazy New Right members will friend him and soon he will even begin to believe he has something of substance to post. Be prepared for the release of Dumb and Dumber III.

Your concession is duly noted and summarily accepted.

This ^^^ response is typical, and why most of the anti liberal element posting on this forum are dumb as box of rocks. Real conservatives are not dumb, but the faux conservatives on Internet message boards clearly are.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

There's no point of a Leftist making promises... as there's no potential for credibility behind the assertion.

Another poster proves the point of the thread. Really...what adult would say anything like that?

The left lies repeatedly to the point that they cannot be trusted and trust is everything. Compromise, finding common ground, working together, you can forget it. Take gun control, the left has no intention of stopping after reaching a compromise. The left being dishonest liars fully intend to keep coming back whittling away at our rights until they get 100% of what they want. Therefore the left can just pound sand, we don't want to compromise with you we want to destroy you.

This may be a record. BluesLegend (BL) has came aboard only a bit more than a month ago and already proved himself(?) a proud and loud member of the Crazy New Right and the Echo Chamber.

This will be fun. Soon Rabbit, CrusaderFrank, Stephanie and the other Crazy New Right members will friend him and soon he will even begin to believe he has something of substance to post. Be prepared for the release of Dumb and Dumber III.

Your concession is duly noted and summarily accepted.

This ^^^ response is typical, and why most of the anti liberal element posting on this forum are dumb as box of rocks. Real conservatives are not dumb, but the faux conservatives on Internet message boards clearly are.

How so?

And please, be as specific: As your intellectual limitations allow.

(Enjoy kids... )

 

[Wry Catcher]

The boarder is more secure under the current administration than under the former President

Riiiiight he's not luring 10's of thousands of illegals across the border with his partial amnesty and promise not to deport them. I mean its laughable, good luck selling that.

FY 2013 ICE Immigration Removals ICE

Now BL can post something from Lou Dobbs (who? LOL) or Glen Beck or Rush Limbaugh and call me a troll.

ROFLMNAO! PUHLEASE... .

Those stats have been THOROUGHLY REFUTED... in truth, the obama cult counts 'arrests' of illegals as 'RETURNS'/'Removal'. Thus the hysterically inflated (FRAUDULENT) numbers which deceitfully attempt to influence the ignorant by fooling them into BELIEVING that obama is deporting more illegals than Bush did.

The facts show otherwise, with Bush having sent ORDERS of MAGNITUDE more illegals BACK across the border... by adding 'arrests' into the equation, THEN fraudulently combining "RETURNS" AND "REMOVALS"... the numbers skew deceitfully to make it APPEAR as tho' obama is a deporter in chief. In truth obama has sent home a minor percentage of the number of illegals sent packing by his predecessors.

The BORDER IS MORE SECURE. During my career, I retired at the end of 2005, arrests made of aliens were always reported to INS (now ICE). The vast majority of reports were received by voice mail and never acted upon. Many aliens arrested end up in jail and on probation and INS seemed not to care; this at a great cost to local criminal justice systems.

Keeping those out is more cost effective then detaining them in county jails or federal detention centers for months and providing court appointed attorney's (paid for by taxpayers) and due process. Real conservatives understand that turning them back at the border is cost effective, faux conservatives don't have a clue.

 

[toxicmedia]

I expected you to end with the equivalent to "I know you are but what am I"

LOL!

Look scamp... if you were to take the position that the "SUN IS A GREAT VACATION DESTINATION", this would not send me searching for 'evidence' to disprove, discredit or otherwise refute your absurdity.

And, just to be clear... IF you need to 'feel' that the Sun is a great vacation destination, I'm perfectly fine with that.

Your reputation is yours and I've no investment in it, whatsoever.

So... I could not care less what rock you crash your credibility upon. Be it the Sun, or the any of the host of ludicrous notions wherein the Left, on this or any other board, has not since the inception of the respective board, up to this very moment provided endless examples of their infinite capacity to advocate for every conceivable foreign notion which are hostile to every American principle.

And if you need to believe that my lack of concern for your feelings proves you right? That's fine with me, as one of the downsides to having no concern for one's credibility is that one gives a red rats ass about what ya say.

See how that works?

Are you familiar with the psychological concept of "projection"?

Methinks quite a few things about that...without the desire to unwind it.

Could you not find examples of liberals or Obama saying the things you've been told they say?...I believe you have put forth the notion you believe that...the burden would lie with you.

I already know the answer, you can't

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

The boarder is more secure under the current administration than under the former President

Riiiiight he's not luring 10's of thousands of illegals across the border with his partial amnesty and promise not to deport them. I mean its laughable, good luck selling that.

FY 2013 ICE Immigration Removals ICE

Now BL can post something from Lou Dobbs (who? LOL) or Glen Beck or Rush Limbaugh and call me a troll.

ROFLMNAO! PUHLEASE... .

Those stats have been THOROUGHLY REFUTED... in truth, the obama cult counts 'arrests' of illegals as 'RETURNS'/'Removal'. Thus the hysterically inflated (FRAUDULENT) numbers which deceitfully attempt to influence the ignorant by fooling them into BELIEVING that obama is deporting more illegals than Bush did.

The facts show otherwise, with Bush having sent ORDERS of MAGNITUDE more illegals BACK across the border... by adding 'arrests' into the equation, THEN fraudulently combining "RETURNS" AND "REMOVALS"... the numbers skew deceitfully to make it APPEAR as tho' obama is a deporter in chief. In truth obama has sent home a minor percentage of the number of illegals sent packing by his predecessors.

The BORDER IS MORE SECURE. During my career, I retired at the end of 2005, arrests made of aliens were always reported to INS (now ICE). The vast majority of reports were received by voice mail and never acted upon. Many aliens arrested end up in jail and on probation and INS seemed not to care; this at a great cost to local criminal justice systems.

Keeping those out is more cost effective then detaining them in county jails or federal detention centers for months and providing court appointed attorney's (paid for by taxpayers) and due process. Real conservatives understand that turning them back at the border is cost effective, faux conservatives don't have a clue.

D E L U SI O N: PERSONIFIED.

Thank you for your contribution. There is nothing new there, but validation by adding to the volume of standing facts is always appreciated.

Although... I agree that jailing illegals is a waste of money. I prefer the soundly reasoned notion of rinsing from the US Culture all forms of social subsidy, which originate beyond the self-contribution of the citizens themselves.

The southern US border has always been open and was NEVER a PROBLEM (Exceptions of course, including war) until the mid-1960s with the passing of the GREAT SOCIETY, wherein it was determined that the hapless would be defined as helpless, thus setting them entitled to federal and state subsistence... .

End the subsidies and end THE PROBLEM. And do so OVERNIGHT!

That way, any illegal that comes here, sustains themselves, integrates into our culture and prospers is WELCOMED!

OF course, THOSE independent souls are NOT viable candidates for the Democrat Party, as they reject, through their very existence the unprincipled tenets OF Left-think.

Your thoughts?

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

I expected you to end with the equivalent to "I know you are but what am I"

LOL!

Look scamp... if you were to take the position that the "SUN IS A GREAT VACATION DESTINATION", this would not send me searching for 'evidence' to disprove, discredit or otherwise refute your absurdity.

And, just to be clear... IF you need to 'feel' that the Sun is a great vacation destination, I'm perfectly fine with that.

Your reputation is yours and I've no investment in it, whatsoever.

So... I could not care less what rock you crash your credibility upon. Be it the Sun, or the any of the host of ludicrous notions wherein the Left, on this or any other board, has not since the inception of the respective board, up to this very moment provided endless examples of their infinite capacity to advocate for every conceivable foreign notion which are hostile to every American principle.

And if you need to believe that my lack of concern for your feelings proves you right? That's fine with me, as one of the downsides to having no concern for one's credibility is that one gives a red rats ass about what ya say.

See how that works?

Are you familiar with the psychological concept of "projection"?

Methinks quite a few things.....

Your concession is duly noted and summarily accepted.

 

[toxicmedia]

I expected you to end with the equivalent to "I know you are but what am I"

LOL!

Look scamp... if you were to take the position that the "SUN IS A GREAT VACATION DESTINATION", this would not send me searching for 'evidence' to disprove, discredit or otherwise refute your absurdity.

And, just to be clear... IF you need to 'feel' that the Sun is a great vacation destination, I'm perfectly fine with that.

Your reputation is yours and I've no investment in it, whatsoever.

So... I could not care less what rock you crash your credibility upon. Be it the Sun, or the any of the host of ludicrous notions wherein the Left, on this or any other board, has not since the inception of the respective board, up to this very moment provided endless examples of their infinite capacity to advocate for every conceivable foreign notion which are hostile to every American principle.

And if you need to believe that my lack of concern for your feelings proves you right? That's fine with me, as one of the downsides to having no concern for one's credibility is that one gives a red rats ass about what ya say.

See how that works?

Are you familiar with the psychological concept of "projection"?

Methinks quite a few things.....

Your concession is duly noted and summarily accepted.

Right...I don't know what was thinking.

You're right, and I offer you a heartfelt concession.

You need it more than I do.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

I expected you to end with the equivalent to "I know you are but what am I"

LOL!

Look scamp... if you were to take the position that the "SUN IS A GREAT VACATION DESTINATION", this would not send me searching for 'evidence' to disprove, discredit or otherwise refute your absurdity.

And, just to be clear... IF you need to 'feel' that the Sun is a great vacation destination, I'm perfectly fine with that.

Your reputation is yours and I've no investment in it, whatsoever.

So... I could not care less what rock you crash your credibility upon. Be it the Sun, or the any of the host of ludicrous notions wherein the Left, on this or any other board, has not since the inception of the respective board, up to this very moment provided endless examples of their infinite capacity to advocate for every conceivable foreign notion which are hostile to every American principle.

And if you need to believe that my lack of concern for your feelings proves you right? That's fine with me, as one of the downsides to having no concern for one's credibility is that one gives a red rats ass about what ya say.

See how that works?

Are you familiar with the psychological concept of "projection"?

Methinks quite a few things.....

Your concession is duly noted and summarily accepted.

Right...I don't know what was thinking.

You're right, and I offer you a heartfelt concession.

You need it more than I do.

Your concession is duly noted and summarily accepted.

 

[Wry Catcher]

The boarder is more secure under the current administration than under the former President

Riiiiight he's not luring 10's of thousands of illegals across the border with his partial amnesty and promise not to deport them. I mean its laughable, good luck selling that.

FY 2013 ICE Immigration Removals ICE

Now BL can post something from Lou Dobbs (who? LOL) or Glen Beck or Rush Limbaugh and call me a troll.

ROFLMNAO! PUHLEASE... .

Those stats have been THOROUGHLY REFUTED... in truth, the obama cult counts 'arrests' of illegals as 'RETURNS'/'Removal'. Thus the hysterically inflated (FRAUDULENT) numbers which deceitfully attempt to influence the ignorant by fooling them into BELIEVING that obama is deporting more illegals than Bush did.

The facts show otherwise, with Bush having sent ORDERS of MAGNITUDE more illegals BACK across the border... by adding 'arrests' into the equation, THEN fraudulently combining "RETURNS" AND "REMOVALS"... the numbers skew deceitfully to make it APPEAR as tho' obama is a deporter in chief. In truth obama has sent home a minor percentage of the number of illegals sent packing by his predecessors.

The BORDER IS MORE SECURE. During my career, I retired at the end of 2005, arrests made of aliens were always reported to INS (now ICE). The vast majority of reports were received by voice mail and never acted upon. Many aliens arrested end up in jail and on probation and INS seemed not to care; this at a great cost to local criminal justice systems.

Keeping those out is more cost effective then detaining them in county jails or federal detention centers for months and providing court appointed attorney's (paid for by taxpayers) and due process. Real conservatives understand that turning them back at the border is cost effective, faux conservatives don't have a clue.

D E L U SI O N: PERSONIFIED.

Thank you for your contribution. There is nothing new there, but validation by adding to the volume of standing facts is always appreciated.

Being an asshole does not win debates. Nothing new there, so why continue to act like one?

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

Riiiiight he's not luring 10's of thousands of illegals across the border with his partial amnesty and promise not to deport them. I mean its laughable, good luck selling that.

FY 2013 ICE Immigration Removals ICE

Now BL can post something from Lou Dobbs (who? LOL) or Glen Beck or Rush Limbaugh and call me a troll.

ROFLMNAO! PUHLEASE... .

Those stats have been THOROUGHLY REFUTED... in truth, the obama cult counts 'arrests' of illegals as 'RETURNS'/'Removal'. Thus the hysterically inflated (FRAUDULENT) numbers which deceitfully attempt to influence the ignorant by fooling them into BELIEVING that obama is deporting more illegals than Bush did.

The facts show otherwise, with Bush having sent ORDERS of MAGNITUDE more illegals BACK across the border... by adding 'arrests' into the equation, THEN fraudulently combining "RETURNS" AND "REMOVALS"... the numbers skew deceitfully to make it APPEAR as tho' obama is a deporter in chief. In truth obama has sent home a minor percentage of the number of illegals sent packing by his predecessors.

The BORDER IS MORE SECURE. During my career, I retired at the end of 2005, arrests made of aliens were always reported to INS (now ICE). The vast majority of reports were received by voice mail and never acted upon. Many aliens arrested end up in jail and on probation and INS seemed not to care; this at a great cost to local criminal justice systems.

Keeping those out is more cost effective then detaining them in county jails or federal detention centers for months and providing court appointed attorney's (paid for by taxpayers) and due process. Real conservatives understand that turning them back at the border is cost effective, faux conservatives don't have a clue.

D E L U SI O N: PERSONIFIED.

Thank you for your contribution. There is nothing new there, but validation by adding to the volume of standing facts is always appreciated.

Although... I agree that jailing illegals is a waste of money. I prefer the soundly reasoned notion of rinsing from the US Culture all forms of social subsidy, which originate beyond the self-contribution of the citizens themselves.

The southern US border has always been open and was NEVER a PROBLEM (Exceptions of course, including war) until the mid-1960s with the passing of the GREAT SOCIETY, wherein it was determined that the hapless would be defined as helpless, thus setting them entitled to federal and state subsistence... . End the subsidies and end THE PROBLEM. And do so OVERNIGHT!

That way, any illegal that comes here, sustains themselves, integrates into our culture and prospers is WELCOMED!

OF course, THOSE independent souls are NOT viable candidates for the Democrat Party, as they reject, through their very existence the unprincipled tenets OF Left-think.

Your thoughts?

Being an asshole does not win debates. Nothing new there, so why continue to act like one?

Good for you... It's good that you can admit that. It's a positive sign... .

Your concession is duly noted and summarily accepted.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Another poster proves the point of the thread. Really...what adult would say anything like that?

The left lies repeatedly to the point that they cannot be trusted and trust is everything. Compromise, finding common ground, working together, you can forget it. Take gun control, the left has no intention of stopping after reaching a compromise. The left being dishonest liars fully intend to keep coming back whittling away at our rights until they get 100% of what they want. Therefore the left can just pound sand, we don't want to compromise with you we want to destroy you.

This may be a record. BluesLegend (BL) has came aboard only a bit more than a month ago and already proved himself(?) a proud and loud member of the Crazy New Right and the Echo Chamber.

This will be fun. Soon Rabbit, CrusaderFrank, Stephanie and the other Crazy New Right members will friend him and soon he will even begin to believe he has something of substance to post. Be prepared for the release of Dumb and Dumber III.

Your concession is duly noted and summarily accepted.

This ^^^ response is typical, and why most of the anti liberal element posting on this forum are dumb as box of rocks. Real conservatives are not dumb, but the faux conservatives on Internet message boards clearly are.

How so?

And please, be as specific: As your intellectual limitations allow.

(Enjoy kids... )

The BORDER IS MORE SECURE. During my career, I retired at the end of 2005, arrests made of aliens were always reported to INS (now ICE). The vast majority of reports were received by voice mail and never acted upon. Many aliens arrested end up in jail and on probation and INS seemed not to care; this at a great cost to local criminal justice systems.

Keeping those out is more cost effective then detaining them in county jails or federal detention centers for months and providing court appointed attorney's (paid for by taxpayers) and due process. Real conservatives understand that turning them back at the border is cost effective, faux conservatives don't have a clue.