Are Biden's issuance of presidential pardons going too far?

[Marener]

So they don't get charged or even investigated.

Well, if that ever happens the president can tell them at that point.

 

[martybegan]

I mean, you basically just admitted Trump didn’t declassify his documents in his basement, which makes him a felon.

Are you still claiming the president can secretly declassify information just by thinking about it one day?

If so, the president can secretly pardon someone just by thinking about it.

I'm saying the whole thing hasn't been adjudicated yet, because the Dems are more interested in prosecuting Trump than answering the question.

Your position is idiotic on it's face, because the persons being pardoned need to know.

The real question is a pre-emptive pardon an actual pardon, considering the person hasn't even been indicted for anything yet.

 

[ThisIsMe]

Remember, if they take the pardon, that means they are guilty....

 

[Hollie]

They’re not named at a later date. They’re specified in the pardon under the term “all”.

Tell me where the constitution says they need to be adjudicated?

Offenses to be pardoned need to identify what the offense is. Tell me where the Constitution says pardons are for crimes/ offenses o be named at a later date.

 

[ColonelAngus]

Trump is attacking anyone who ever testified against him

Biden is just protecting them from retribution

The pardons make it clear they broke the law.

NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW, REMEMBER?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Tell that to the framers.

Nowhere in the constitution does it say Biden has to tell anyone who he pardons.

If he tells no one, what good is it?

 

[rightwinger]

Not a claim. FACT! Jack Smith even referenced it in releasing his report. Have a horrible day because I know you will!

Trump is protected because of the Presidency
His political targets are protected by the Presidency

 

[Hollie]

So they don't get charged or even investigated.

This isn't really that hard a concept

For the demos. This really is a hard concept to understand.

That's why they defend the retroactive pardon for Hunter Biden. It shields " the big guy".

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Offenses to be pardoned need to identify what the offense is. Tell me where the Constitution says pardons are for crimes/ offenses o be named at a later date.

It doesn't. That's why you cannot assume they are not good.

 

[SeaMajor7]

Tell that to the framers.

Nowhere in the constitution does it say Biden has to tell anyone who he pardons.

 

[Marener]

I'm saying the whole thing hasn't been adjudicated yet, because the Dems are more interested in prosecuting Trump than answering the question.

Prosecuting is adjudicating dipshit.

Your position is idiotic on it's face, because the persons being pardoned need to know.

Not until they’re actually prosecuted.

The real question is a pre-emptive pardon an actual pardon, considering the person hasn't even been indicted for anything yet.

It wasn’t a question before it was inconvenient to MAGAs. Now you want to rewrite the rules.

 

[DGS49]

Yinz do realize, do you not, that taking a thread that has NOTHING TO DO WITH PRESIDENT TRUMP and making it ABOUT PRESIDENT TRUMP is kind of a symptom of TDS?

Carry on.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Trump is protected because of the Presidency
His political targets are protected by the Presidency

Wow! More mental meanderings from the moron!

 

[struth]

Well, if that ever happens the president can tell them at that point.

gotcha, so it can't be done in secret.....he in fact has to tell the person he wants to pardon ,and the person has to accept it.

 

[SeaMajor7]

This BULLSHIT is clearly UNCONSTITUTIONAL!!!!!
This WILL go to the SCOTUS.......

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

This going to court....Count on it.

How? The Constitution is explicit.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

This BULLSHIT is clearly UNCONSTITUTIONAL!!!!!
This WILL go to the SCOTUS.......

... and it will lose.

 

[Hollie]

It doesn't. That's why you cannot assume they are not good.

Of course it does. A pardon is for Offenses. You are trying to make the case that no offense needs to be identified. That makes no sense.

 

[Marener]

gotcha, so it can't be done in secret.....he in fact has to tell the person he wants to pardon ,and the person has to accept it.

He doesn’t have to say anything unless they’re prosecuted.

 

[SeaMajor7]

... and it will lose.

On what BASIS, skipper??????????????????????????