Above is grossly unfair to 10-year olds!
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If your next tactic is to put a gun to my head to show me the truth and glory of your gawds and to persuade me to accept your religion, be advised I grew up with two older brothers who taught me how to fight dirty.Thanks for your offer of help but I've found that religions are less about helping than they are about increasing head count for the purpose of bolstering their power, wealth and influence.You do seem to harbor much of the same hate for non-believers in your version of religion as does ISIS. Your alleged covenants with your gawds are really no different than the covenants ISIS makes with theirs. They're a bit more excitable in the sense that they have no issue with killing and maiming to enforce their club membership.Like you, ISIS persecutes those that don't subscribe to their brand. That's why you are sooooo "concerned" with those that don't live up to your idea of what is "unfaithful". And that's why fake christians are such a problem.
I missed where I have persecuted anyone.
I am more concerned about unfaithful Christians because making a covenant with God and breaking it is far more evil then being an ignoramus who never made a covenant
To whom much is given much is required.
To define as evil someone joining your covenant club and then either reconsidering their position or making a considered choice to leave the club is approaching the reactionary, cult status of ISIS.
In a very real sense, I see people with your extremist attitudes as different from the ISIS soldier only as a function of place of birth.
Amusing. As I don't hate anyone. Takes too much effort. In fact I would go out of my way to help you. Which is precisely why I am often here trying to persuade you to get to know God instead of doing other things.
Lastly, of the asserted gawds, I just don't have any reason to accept your configuration to be true as opposed to other configurations. As we know, all books of gawds are written by men with none of the writers making a solid case that they are transcribing the literal words of any of the gawds. And to be honest, I'm less convinced by the claims of Joseph Smith than I am for most other claims of men who will say they have had communications with (or received gifts from), the gawds.
that's because you refuse to actually learn what he taught
And yet, I am happy. Candidly it seems that you feel afraid, alone and unfulfilled and find a need to express those emotions by some rather over the top and aggressive proselytizing. Misery loves company as the saying goes.And yet you arent happy. Why is that?
Perhaps it's because you can't do wrong and feel right about it.
One day I hope you truly decide to find God instead of making excuses. Maybe then you won't have to pretend we have a gun to your head when we invite you to actually do something when you come to us complaining about God
Like you, ISIS persecutes those that don't subscribe to their brand. That's why you are sooooo "concerned" with those that don't live up to your idea of what is "unfaithful". And that's why fake christians are such a problem.Like ISIS is "concerned" with unfaithful Muslims.I'm more concerned about unfaithful christians than athiests
I'm not sure Isis is that concerned about unfaithful Muslims. They are concerned with power and hate
I missed where I have persecuted anyone.
I am more concerned about unfaithful Christians because making a covenant with God and breaking it is far more evil then being an ignoramus who never made a covenant
To whom much is given much is required.
And yet, I am happy. Candidly it seems that you feel afraid, alone and unfulfilled and find a need to express those emotions by some rather over the top and aggressive proselytizing. Misery loves company as the saying goes.And yet you arent happy. Why is that?
Perhaps it's because you can't do wrong and feel right about it.
One day I hope you truly decide to find God instead of making excuses. Maybe then you won't have to pretend we have a gun to your head when we invite you to actually do something when you come to us complaining about God
I'm making no excuses for questioning and challenging your beliefs. It's a shame that religionists view such questioning and challenges as "attacks" on their religions. You are here of your own choosing and you should be aware that not everyone is going to share your beliefs. This is a public message board and that is simply one of the rules of engagement.
I came to no one complaining about any gawds. I pointed out that the christian gawds (more so the Hebrew gawds that christianity co-opted from Judaism), are responsible for some of the most cruel and violent acts against humanity. Gawds of alleged Infinite love and mercy who relentlessly slaughter their own children are a paradox that is worth addressing.
…speaking of gawds and the notion of infinite justice, infinite mercy, if I was a gawd, (and I’m speaking of the Judeo-Christian god, although the same characteristics would apply equally to most gods) these are the things I wouldn’t do:
I wouldn't set up a test for my children that was impossible for them to pass, purposely tempt them, and when they did fail it I wouldn't curse my children, and their children, and their children and their children and...
Of course, I guess we can resolve all that with "gawds ways are not man's ways"
And here we see the arrogance common to most theists.And yet you arent happy. Why is that?
Perhaps it's because you can't do wrong and feel right about it.
One day I hope you truly decide to find God instead of making excuses. Maybe then you won't have to pretend we have a gun to your head when we invite you to actually do something when you come to us complaining about God
And yet you arent happy. Why is that?
Perhaps it's because you can't do wrong and feel right about it.
One day I hope you truly decide to find God instead of making excuses. Maybe then you won't have to pretend we have a gun to your head when we invite you to actually do something when you come to us complaining about God
And here we see the arrogance common to most theists.And yet you arent happy. Why is that?
Perhaps it's because you can't do wrong and feel right about it.
One day I hope you truly decide to find God instead of making excuses. Maybe then you won't have to pretend we have a gun to your head when we invite you to actually do something when you come to us complaining about God
Like you, ISIS persecutes those that don't subscribe to their brand. That's why you are sooooo "concerned" with those that don't live up to your idea of what is "unfaithful". And that's why fake christians are such a problem.Like ISIS is "concerned" with unfaithful Muslims.I'm more concerned about unfaithful christians than athiests
I'm not sure Isis is that concerned about unfaithful Muslims. They are concerned with power and hate
I missed where I have persecuted anyone.
I am more concerned about unfaithful Christians because making a covenant with God and breaking it is far more evil then being an ignoramus who never made a covenant
To whom much is given much is required.
"I missed where I have persecuted anyone. "
To be fair, the only time I've seen you do it is when you post.
And here we see the arrogance common to most theists.And yet you arent happy. Why is that?
Perhaps it's because you can't do wrong and feel right about it.
One day I hope you truly decide to find God instead of making excuses. Maybe then you won't have to pretend we have a gun to your head when we invite you to actually do something when you come to us complaining about God
And yet you arent happy. Why is that?
Perhaps it's because you can't do wrong and feel right about it.
One day I hope you truly decide to find God instead of making excuses. Maybe then you won't have to pretend we have a gun to your head when we invite you to actually do something when you come to us complaining about God
"Perhaps it's because you can't do wrong and feel right about it."
That's definitely something I agree with you about but I'm kind of surprised that you admit you feel "right" when you do wrong.
Frankly, I think that whole excuse of "not perfect, just saved" is a shameful dodge of one's personal responsibility.
If I do wrong, I DO feel wrong about it.
I'm afraid you're projecting. You're angry and emotive because you're being required to account for your religious beliefs. You're being required to account for the book you worship and why that book is rife with errors, omissions and profound contradictions about gawds of infinite love and mercy who are the most cruel and vindictive "personalities".And here we see the arrogance common to most theists.And yet you arent happy. Why is that?
Perhaps it's because you can't do wrong and feel right about it.
One day I hope you truly decide to find God instead of making excuses. Maybe then you won't have to pretend we have a gun to your head when we invite you to actually do something when you come to us complaining about God
The three of you sit around complaining about a God you claim doesn't exist. It's not exactly rocket science to figure out you guys are miserable. It literally permeates your posts.
I'm afraid you're projecting. You're angry and emotive because you're being required to account for your religious beliefs. You're being required to account for the book you worship and why that book is rife with errors, omissions and profound contradictions about gawds of infinite love and mercy who are the most cruel and vindictive "personalities".And here we see the arrogance common to most theists.And yet you arent happy. Why is that?
Perhaps it's because you can't do wrong and feel right about it.
One day I hope you truly decide to find God instead of making excuses. Maybe then you won't have to pretend we have a gun to your head when we invite you to actually do something when you come to us complaining about God
The three of you sit around complaining about a God you claim doesn't exist. It's not exactly rocket science to figure out you guys are miserable. It literally permeates your posts.
Sheesh, dude. You're coming across as really desperate. You mistake people's interest in discussing a subject as a reason to become the salesman from hell for your partisan gawds. Your lack of sales is no reason to become angry and emotive because you can't gain converts.I'm afraid you're projecting. You're angry and emotive because you're being required to account for your religious beliefs. You're being required to account for the book you worship and why that book is rife with errors, omissions and profound contradictions about gawds of infinite love and mercy who are the most cruel and vindictive "personalities".And here we see the arrogance common to most theists.And yet you arent happy. Why is that?
Perhaps it's because you can't do wrong and feel right about it.
One day I hope you truly decide to find God instead of making excuses. Maybe then you won't have to pretend we have a gun to your head when we invite you to actually do something when you come to us complaining about God
The three of you sit around complaining about a God you claim doesn't exist. It's not exactly rocket science to figure out you guys are miserable. It literally permeates your posts.
I enjoy discussing my religious beliefs. In fact, that's why I encouraged the original owners of the board to create the religion forum. So we could discuss religious ideas without it clogging up the politics section.
So why would I be angry about discussing them? If something makes me angry, I wouldn't do it. The world has too much negativity to purposely put yourself in negative situations.
What is a sign of anger is whining about God and religion when you have no belief in them. If there is no God why does it matter if others believe in Him? Why go to places where it's discussed and complain about people talking to you about God when all you have to do is not put yourself in that position?
You guys complain about what you term as hypocritical Christians who don't follow their faith and then complain about Christians discussing their faith with you when they would be hypocrites if they didn't.
You aren't honestly seeking when you refuse to even read a book or experiment in the least. You're just trying to justify to yourself why you are better than others. This isn't something that needs to be done if you are living after the manner of happiness.
God has a plan of happiness. And the center of that plan is the resurrection and atonement of Jesus Christ. The atonement is the one thing that can heal us spiritually and physically. When you use it to repent of your sins you can provide a way for the spirit to teach you and change you. You can become more humble. You can become full of love. And when you are full of love you want to share that love with others.
Study the scriptures and come to Christ. The light and joy you can receive will amaze you
an atheist fanatic who deludes herself into thinking she has proved something......A zealot of few words, thoughts or abilities at forming coherent sentences.lol....I have proved that your gawds do not exist. .