Are all of Biden’s pardons that were autopenned signed INVALID?

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

No one said illegal. The word is "invalid". If an original signature is required and an autopen signature is used, purporting to be the original signature, the document the autopen signature is affixed to is invalid. If a person signs something without knowing what it is, or even not remembering that he signed it at all, that is called fraud in the inducement and a crime. Now there is a criminal statute against forgery. But that's a different story.

I highlighted your errors in orange. Without those mistakes, what have you got? Auto-pens are legal. Presidents have used them before. Without Biden claiming it was fraud, you have nothing, again.

 

[Blisterfinger]

I highlighted your errors in orange. Without those mistakes, what have you got? Auto-pens are legal. Presidents have used them before. Without Biden claiming it was fraud, you have nothing, again.

That is why we need to have Biden and his Auto Pinner before Congress for questions and whoever else was involved.

 

[konradv]

Nope. It changed, liar. When I caught you in your Kushner lie you changed the topic to ORANGE MAN BAD.

It’s all the same , the Trump Crime Family!

 

[konradv]

Your claim, Sport. It’s on YOU to back up your claims.

How is one supposed to prove a negative? It’s on you, genius!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

That is why we need to have Biden and his Auto Pinner before Congress for questions and whoever else was involved.

Listen up dumbass! The only person that can claim there was fraud is Biden. He has not and never will fulfill your fantasy. Until he does, Congress cannot do anything because no crime has been committed. Until he does, a subpoena from Congress would be based on nothing, and since he is no longer President, he cannot be held responsible for any official acts he may have committed when offering those pardons. Pardons are a plenary power of the President. There are no avenues to challenge nor revoke them. What part of this do you not understand?

BTW it's auto-pen, not auto pinner.

 

[Modern Messiah]

See my previous post. He doesn't need a reason.

So I guess President Trump can do whatever he wants and he doesn't need a reason.
"It's good to be President"

 

[EvilCat Breath]

I highlighted your errors in orange. Without those mistakes, what have you got? Auto-pens are legal. Presidents have used them before. Without Biden claiming it was fraud, you have nothing, again.

You will either learn, or you won't.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

So I guess President Trump can do whatever he wants and he doesn't need a reason.
"It's good to be President"

Exactly! That is what I have been saying. When it comes to pardons, there is nothing you can do. That is why nothing has been done nor will be done.

 

[Modern Messiah]

Exactly! That is what I have been saying. When it comes to pardons, there is nothing you can do. That is why nothing has been done nor will be done.

The one extenuating factor that looms large for tater head is that he was clearly mentally diminished but the dems and the media hid it.
The Hurr report was damning as well. Also the dems took cornpop off the ballot because he was diminished. Bite me granted numerous pardons while he was in the throws of dementia. The American People are questioning the legitimacy of these pardons because cornpop was diminished.

 

[Blisterfinger]

BTW it's auto-pen, not auto pinner.

Meh, that's how Autotext spells it and I don't care. You got the point didn't you?
Biden and his minions are traitors to the United States and should be treated as such. Case closed dumbass

 

[Leviticus]

I'd like to see a reference for that. That sounds like your imagination running away with you.

The president can give an order to executive department leaders, and they have to follow them whether they're written out or not. The reason they are written out isn't because they are required to be in order for him to give the orders. Federal law requires records of all official orders to be kept. That is the reason why they are written out, not because they have to be to be considered valid.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

The one extenuating factor that looms large for tater head is that he was clearly mentally diminished but the dems and the media hid it.
The Hurr report was damning as well. Also the dems took cornpop off the ballot because he was diminished. Bite me granted numerous pardons while he was in the throws of dementia. The American People are questioning the legitimacy of these pardons because cornpop was diminished.

The remedy for that was the 25th Amendment but Kamala and her horde of liberals in the Cabinet did not do that, so we are stuck with it.

I believe that if Kamala had invoked the 25th Amendment she might have just won. But she took the cowardly way out.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

The president can give an order to executive department leaders, and they have to follow them whether they're written out or not. The reason they are written out isn't because they are required to be in order for him to give the orders. Federal law requires records of all official orders to be kept. That is the reason why they are written out, not because they have to be to be considered valid.

Where is that written? If you know that you must have a reference. If my Captain tells me to turn the ship around, only my orders to the helmsman are recorded in the log, not our conversation.

 

[Blisterfinger]

The remedy for that was the 25th Amendment but Kamala and her horde of liberals in the Cabinet did not do that, so we are stuck with it.

I believe that if Kamala had invoked the 25th Amendment she might have just won. But she took the cowardly way out.

You leftoids are all cowards

 

[Leviticus]

Where is that written? If you know that you must have a reference. If my Captain tells me to turn the ship around, only my orders to the helmsman are recorded in the log, not our conversation.

If the president gives a verbal order it has to be followed whether it's written down or not. The president gives a lot of orders that are not written down. Executive orders are really just for show. They are for the ceremony of writing and signing them not because they are needed in order for the president to give commands to the exact branch.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

You leftoids are all cowards

I am about as "leftoid" as Rush Limbaugh was, you ignorant POS, Your name calling has no effect on me because i just attribute it to your overall ignorance. I just happen to be a conservative that was a teacher, so I have the inside dope you don't have nor want.

 

[Nostra]

It’s all the same , the Trump Crime Family!

Lies.

 

[Nostra]

How is one supposed to prove a negative? It’s on you, genius!

I accept your admission you can’t back up your lies.

Dismissed.

 

[Nostra]

Listen up dumbass! The only person that can claim there was fraud is Biden. He has not and never will fulfill your fantasy. Until he does, Congress cannot do anything because no crime has been committed. Until he does, a subpoena from Congress would be based on nothing, and since he is no longer President, he cannot be held responsible for any official acts he may have committed when offering those pardons. Pardons are a plenary power of the President. There are no avenues to challenge nor revoke them. What part of this do you not understand?

BTW it's auto-pen, not auto pinner.

The only person who can claim fraud is Biden? You sure about that, Gilligan?

 

[konradv]

I accept your admission you can’t back up your lies.

Atlantic Editor Jeffrey Goldberg