Yes old fraud the NSIDC has some interesting information if you choose to read it. Of course they are still using the GISS data for Canada that is based on that single weather station based in that town so that it could maximise the Urban Island Effect, but other than that they say this
"The very late maximum ice extent, on March 31, means that the melt season started almost a month later later than normal.
As we noted in last month's post, the late growth in ice extent came largely from expansion in the southernmost Bering Sea, Barents Sea, and Sea of Okhotsk. These areas remained cool, with northeasterly and northwesterly winds, keeping the overall ice extent close to the average for the month of April."
So riddle me this batman...if the temps are so much warmer (very much in doubt based on the source of their temperature data) in the Arctic, why did the melting begin so much later than the previous year? Also if it so much warmer why is the ice near average for the month of April?
These are basic questions that should give anyone pause. The figures don't add up if you believe the GISS data. On the other hand if you ignore the GISS data (which I now firmly do based on all of their protocol violations) then the NSIDC information makes perfect sense.
It seems to me that "warmer than normal" does not necessarily translate into 'more melting'. Sub freezing is still sub freezing even if the temperature is warmer.
And though I am no scientist, it seems quite logical to me that if some of the ice doesn't melt now and then at both poles, the ice caps would continue to expand until the Earth is just one giant ice ball. And given the millions and millions of years of ebb and flow in climate change swinging back and forth between mostly tropical climates to ice ages, trying to establish a 'norm' using data from a half century of record keeping borders on the absurd.
BINGO!
I said a similar thing to oldsocks and his sock army before and they cried like babies over it...
1.4 degrees F rise out of a temp of - 20+ degrees F is not going to change the levels of ice... And neither will a rise of 2 or more degrees either. At least not in the time frame they are claiming. ice ages take a long time to become ice ages. just as warming periods take a long time to warm. By their logic it happens in a hundred years or less...
Massive and rapid heat or cold changes on this planet do not happen because of an increase in some trace gases... They happen the same way they always happened, the Sun... GHG's do not cause warming, they amplify existing warming. The very nature of the word Greenhouse should tell them this...
if ya have a greenhouse is it warm in winter? No of course not... Is it warm in summer? Certainly.. The greenhouse amplifies the Sun and traps the radiant heat energy inside longer than an open structure. This same principle applies to GHG's. Take away the sun and what happens? no radiant energy to trap and no heat.... And again this applies to GHG's as well.
These retards forget the simple logic in favor for the "I'm saving the planet" rhetoric. With them Its not about science, in reality its about a ideology. An Idea that they can save the planet. it gives them power. They suddenly don't feel like an insignificant spec, but a being capable of saving an entire world. The entire concept that its not in need of saving, or that its not something they can actually do anything about anyway never enters into it....
Thats why no matter how many times their scientists are wrong, the predictions fail, the data is found faulty, their leaders lie to them, and no matter how many times the planet changes what its doing opposite their claims; they will still claim its in trouble and they are the ones to save it.....
it went from global cooling to global warming. Went from global warming to climate change. That alone should be enough to wake them up, but as you see it did nothing. They just cling on to the next claim and excuse and keep on marching.. All that is just semantics, they know they are destined for greatness, and no amount of truth will dissuade them...
