Appeals court (surprise surprise surprise) has rejected the Trump immunity motion

[Robert W]

Sure, let him argue he wasn’t really trying to get Pence to do something. I think there’s ample evidence to suggest otherwise, including especially his rhetoric on January 6th and sending his mob to the capitol, but he’s welcome to try it.

But what this defense also means is that this wasn’t an official act. Trump is the chief executive. If his actions were official and within the presidential authority, he wouldn’t be making aspirational requests. He would be ordering.

I agree with a minor part of your claims.
Has the media presented any form from Trump made to Pence demanding Pence take any action? I mean in paper. What is the document.
Rhetoric was to his narrow crowd some 3 miles or so from the Capitol. Maybe it was 2 miles away. i can measure it again. Still Trump said more than you say he said. Trump told the group to be in peace. Trump told them not to commit crimes. Trump told the crowd at the Capitol to stop and go home. While you may not think that is presidential, why not?

 

[Robert W]

Well when it gets to court lets see what Pence has to say about what he was asked to do and what he said in response.

I agree with your statement. Pence would also be called to document his claims.

 

[Robert W]

Which media?

Fox News?

National Review?

One America News?

The New York Post?

The Hill?

Breitbart News?

The Wall Street Journal?

The Blaze?

The Gateway Pundit?

The Daily Caller?

RedState?

Newsmax?

Judicial Watch?

The Heritage Foundation?

The Washington Times?

CNS News?

The Washington Examiner?

The Washington Free Beacon?

World News Daily?

American Thinker?

The American Spectator?

Infowars?

Townhall?

Sean Hannity?

Tucker Carlson?

Laura Ingraham?

Charlie Kirk?

Glenn Beck?

Ben Shapiro?

The Federalist Radio Hour?

Dan Bongino?

Mark Levin?

Candace Owens?

Matt Walsh?

Michael Savage?

Bill O'Reilly?

I am discussing the media you believe is out to convict Trump. Those you mention are not the mass media.

 

[MAGA Macho Man]

Quote from the appellate court ruling

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“We have balanced former President Trump’s asserted interests in executive immunity against the vital public interests that favor allowing this prosecution to proceed,” the three-judge panel wrote in the 57-page opinion.

“We conclude that ‘[concerns] of public policy, especially as illuminated by our history and the structure of our government’ compel the rejection of his claim of immunity in this case,” the panel wrote as it upheld a trial judge’s ruling on the issue.

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These democrat socialist judges chose popularity over law. I guess the are scared they will not receive any valentines

 

[g5000]

rump told the crowd at the Capitol to stop and go home.

Not until over three hours later while he jerked off. Three hours while his staff, his family, his lickspittles in Congress, and his media lackeys were all begging him to DO SOMETHING.

Not until four people were dead.

One hour into the terrorist attack, Trump sent out a tweet siccing the mob on his Vice President.

Dipshit.

 

[g5000]

I am discussing the media you believe is out to convict Trump. Those you mention are not the mass media.

O'rly?

Fox News isn't the mass media? Then why are the tards on here always bragging Fox News has the biggest audience?

Hmmm...

 

[Dadoalex]

They will happen. Not a whine. A promise.

A dream.
A creamy dream
A jean creamy dream
A go clean up dream.

 

[Robert W]

You must live in some weird fantasy world full of pink unicorns and rock candy mountains.

Here is his song.

 

[Dadoalex]

You must live in some weird fantasy world full of pink unicorns and rock candy mountains.

Perhaps.
But better than the life you lead in Trump's outhouse.

 

[Robert W]

O'rly?

Fox News isn't the mass media? Then why are the tards on here always bragging Fox News has the biggest audience?

Hmmm...

So you mean to explain to us that you consider FOX official? And to you FOX is who to believe?

 

[skews13]

Appeals Court Rejects Trump’s Immunity Claim — The Wall Street Journal

Ruling by three-judge panel tees up possible further appeal to the Supreme Court

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I have not yet seen the decision. But I predicted it a while ago.

Of course this circuit court would be hell bent on denying the legal claim.

Ultimately, the SCOTUS was always the Court that was going to have to decide this one.

It is (admittedly) not a sure thing in the SCOTUS, either. Not with our hare brained Chief Justice. And the Lord alone knows how Amy will come down.

Here’s the beauty of the decision. He only has one week to appeal to SCOTUS.

All of the delays to prove his innocence just came to an end. I’m sure he’s really upset about it.

 

[Robert W]

A dream.
A creamy dream
A jean creamy dream
A go clean up dream.

I have personally, when Biden's son was in Ukraine working for Burisma, shown video of Biden bragging he demanded Ukraine fire a prosecutor. And said prosecutor was after Biden's son. This is a crime. But there is much more. Who is the Big Guy talked about by Biden's son to get demands for enormous amounts of money be directed back to Biden? Who is on Trial now? Or soon to be put on Trial? The Big guys son?

 

[Marener]

I agree with a minor part of your claims.
Has the media presented any form from Trump made to Pence demanding Pence take any action? I mean in paper. What is the document.
Rhetoric was to his narrow crowd some 3 miles or so from the Capitol. Maybe it was 2 miles away. i can measure it again. Still Trump said more than you say he said. Trump told the group to be in peace. Trump told them not to commit crimes. Trump told the crowd at the Capitol to stop and go home. While you may not think that is presidential, why not?

I have no idea what you mean by a “form” presented to Pence. This isn’t the DMV. There aren’t forms made out to steal the election. We do have the Eastman memos, contemporaneous notes by Pence and his staff and testimony from Pence and his staff.

I never mentioned anything about Trump’s intent for violence. I don’t have to. The mere fact that he sent the tens of thousands of his supporters to the capitol (where Mike Pence was) represents an attempt to coerce.

 

[BackAgain]

Here’s the beauty of the decision. He only has one week to appeal to SCOTUS.

All of the delays to prove his innocence just came to an end. I’m sure he’s really upset about it.

There is (of course) an excellent chance that the SCOTUS brief and cert application are already drafted.

And who knows what SCOTUS will do with a pretrial ruling that might be better ruled upon only after a complete (trial) record is made?

If they say, “we decline cert until and unless the matter has been fully developed on a complete record,” then the trial delay will possibly then end.

Depending on how long it takes SCOTUS to so rule.

Alternatively, given that any trial might be a violation of his right to Presidential immunity (assuming it exists), they may decide to address it prior to trial because what could prove to be a more efficient use of everyone’s resources.

 

[okfine]

 

[BlindBoo]

video of Biden bragging he demanded Ukraine fire a prosecutor. And said prosecutor was after Biden's son. This is a crime.

Joe was bragging about carrying out President Obama's policy of cleaning up corruption in The Ukraine. That policy was bipartisan and had international backing of the EU and the IMF. There was no crime committed. But that propaganda is old and stale......

 

[Marener]

I agree with your statement. Pence would also be called to document his claims.

I believe he already testified to the grand jury.

 

[JGalt]

Perhaps.
But better than the life you lead in Trump's outhouse.

My "outhouse" is a three bedroom, two bath, two car garage on 100 acres of wooded land. There are deer, squirrels, rabbits, turkeys and trout in a spring-fed creek that runs through my property, which is 65 miles either way to a large city.

Enjoy your miserable life, apartment-dweller.

 

[Robert W]

I believe he already testified to the grand jury.

That is not where it ends. It ends in front of a Jury that the defense is also allowed to be there to defend Trump. Grand juries are designed only to persuade a trial to happen.

 

[okfine]

SCOTUS doesn't want to see Trump's claim on immunity. The result will be handed back to Chutkan and the trial will go forward.