Apparently we really need a "debate" over the term ICE AGE because y'all are all wrong...

LOL!!!

A defective one. The percent of thermometers used in households that are "defective" is what, 0.00000001%
Bullshit. The World Meteorological Organization the the International Bureau of Weights and Measures have gone to great lengths to assure the accuracy of the instruments used in Cooperative Weather Observer stations. The question is not whether or not they are defective. Defective instruments get replaced. The question is how accurate they are throughout their range. See https://rmets.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/met.1527
 
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Bullshit. The World Meteorological Organization the the International Bureau of Weights and Measures have gone to great lengths to assure the accuracy of the instruments used in Cooperative Weather Observer stations. The question is not whether or not they are defective. Defective instruments get replaced. The question is how accurate they are throughout their range. See https://rmets.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/met.1527


The Co2 FRAUD has an urgent NEED to FUDGE DATA and hence will jump through hula hoops to justify it.
 
The Co2 FRAUD has an urgent NEED to FUDGE DATA and hence will jump through hula hoops to justify it.
You have no evidence. Your accusations are ignorant lies. You are amoral slime.
 
You have no evidence. Your accusations are ignorant lies. You are amoral slime.


So refute it.

Show us on Earth today...

Land within 600 miles of a pole not in ICE AGE.

Land outside of 600 miles to a pole IN ICE AGE...

Start the Jeopardy! music....
 
So refute it.

Show us on Earth today...

Land within 600 miles of a pole not in ICE AGE.
The entire planet is in an ice age. Here's a little tip: a term including the word "AGE" concerns a span of time, not a physical location, you ignorant bigot.
Land outside of 600 miles to a pole IN ICE AGE...
The entire planet is in an ice age. Here's a little tip: a term including the word "AGE" concerns a span of time, not a physical location, you ignorant bigot.
 
The entire planet is in an ice age. Here's a little tip: a term including the word "AGE" concerns a span of time, not a physical location, you ignorant bigot.


Greenland's ice age started in the past 1-2 million years. The "ice age" debate is hilarious, as your side denies that a continent covered in 2 miles of ice is an ICE AGE...

LOL!!!


The entire planet is in an ice age. Here's a little tip: a term including the word "AGE" concerns a span of time, not a physical location, you ignorant bigot


Another big cowardly dodge by the Co2 FRAUD. Earth has its own law. Land that gets to within 600 miles of a pole ceases to fully melt its winter snowfall during "summer" and hence the snow starts to stack.

There is no refuting it and you and your Co2 FRAUD know that.

So how much ice Earth has at any given moment has precisely nothing to do with Co2, but rather the position of land near the poles. 2 polar oceans and Earth has no ice. Two polar continents and Earth is colder, oceans lower, surface air pressure down.
 
Greenland's ice age started in the past 1-2 million years. The "ice age" debate is hilarious, as your side denies that a continent covered in 2 miles of ice is an ICE AGE...

LOL!!!
We're all entitled to our own opinions. We are not entitled to our own facts.

An ice age is a period in Earth's history when the ice on the polar caps significantly expands due to a lowering of the Earth's global temperatures. Over the course of millions of years, scientists believe that the Earth has experienced at least five major ice ages.

An ice age is a period of colder-than-usual global temperatures and bigger-than-usual glaciers and ice sheets. Ice ages don't bring unrelenting cold. Instead, relatively warm periods intervene, so ice ages are a mix of advancing glaciers (glacials) and retreating glaciers (interglacials).

An ice age is a long interval of time (millions to tens of millions of years) when global temperatures are relatively cold and large areas of the Earth are covered by continental ice sheets and alpine glaciers.

The Pleistocene (/ˈplaɪstəˌsiːn, -stoʊ-/ PLY-stə-seen, -⁠stoh-; often referred to colloquially as the Ice Age) is the geological epoch that lasted from c. 2.58 million to 11,700 years ago, spanning the Earth's most recent period of repeated glaciations.

ice age, any geologic period during which thick ice sheets cover vast areas of land. Such periods of large-scale glaciation may last several million years and drastically reshape surface features of entire continents. A number of major ice ages have occurred throughout Earth history. The earliest known took place during Precambrian time dating back more than 570 million years. The most recent periods of widespread glaciation occurred during the Pleistocene Epoch (2.6 million to 11,700 years ago).

An ice age is a long period of reduction in the temperature of Earth's surface and atmosphere, resulting in the presence or expansion of continental and polar ice sheets and alpine glaciers. Earth's climate alternates between ice ages, and greenhouse periods during which there are no glaciers on the planet. Earth is currently in the ice age called Quaternary glaciation.[1] Individual pulses of cold climate within an ice age are termed glacial periods (glacials, glaciations, glacial stages, stadials, stades, or colloquially, ice ages), and intermittent warm periods within an ice age are called interglacials or interstadials.[2]

An ice age is a period of colder global temperatures and recurring glacial expansion capable of lasting hundreds of millions of years. Thanks to the efforts of geologist Louis Agassiz and mathematician Milutin Milankovitch, scientists have determined that variations in the Earth’s orbit and shifting plate tectonics spur the waxing and waning of these periods.

While the term “ice age” is sometime used liberally to refer to cold periods in Earth’s history, this tends to belie the complexity of glacial periods. The most accurate definition would be that ice ages are periods when ice sheets and glaciers expand across the planet, which correspond to significant drops in global temperatures and can last for millions of years.

If we bring all these factors together, then an ice age occurs during times of protracted lower temperatures, resulting in significant areas covered in ice for millions to tens or even hundreds of millions of years.


Another big cowardly dodge by the Co2 FRAUD. Earth has its own law. Land that gets to within 600 miles of a pole ceases to fully melt its winter snowfall during "summer" and hence the snow starts to stack.
It is certainly not a "law" since at numerous periods in the distant past and within a few years in our future, that will no longer be the case. And whatever such conditions might be, SO THE FUCK WHAT? What do you think that indicates? Temperatures fall as you approach the poles. That is simply geometry. It doesn't have diddly-squat to do with ANYTHING anyone is discussing here.

There is no refuting it and you and your Co2 FRAUD know that.

So how much ice Earth has at any given moment has precisely nothing to do with Co2, but rather the position of land near the poles. 2 polar oceans and Earth has no ice. Two polar continents and Earth is colder, oceans lower, surface air pressure down.
STOOOOOOOOPID
 
when the ice on the polar caps significantly expands


COMPLETELY DISPROVEN by the FACT that Greenland FROZE while North America THAWED


since at numerous periods in the distant past


BULLSHIT. McBullshit has been destroyed on both poles right here on USMB...






STOOOOOOOOPID


This is the "level of intellect" behind a Co2 FRAUD that can't refute the truth of the LAND NEAR THE POLES issue and refuses to answer basic climate question which, when answered correctly, out Co2 for doing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING
 
You have no evidence. Your accusations are ignorant lies. You are amoral slime.
EMH is correct. NOAA has admitted it. Since you sound like you must be from some Eastern Bloc communist nation (based on your vocabulary), I will explain that NOAA is the records-keeping office for the USA concerning all things weather-related. This is an important function of our government. They have recently been granted large increases in funding in order to track other aspects of "Climate" in general. Their continued funding depends on "Climate Change."

There are two problems that I have found.

One problem is that observation stations are disappearing. The actual observational reports no longer exist for some places. In the past, volunteers made observations for the program. Recently, the economy is so bad that people no longer have the time and resources to devote to reporting weather observations. To make up for the increasingly missing reports, someone decided they could use modeling software and satellite data to estimate the temperature and precipitation reports. It has been revealed (and admitted) that this was done without proper documentation, and these estimated values have been incorporated into global models for at least 30 years. I would be happy to have the discussion about the problems associated with changing measurement equipment and methodology and trying to compare the results with direct measurement using older, proven technology. There is also the distinct possibility of bias creeping into modeled data, not to mention various known physical problems.

The second problem is that observations are being increasingly filtered through different reporting agencies. In a recent study, I was doing research about precipitation. Until the month under consideration, all observations were reported through the normal volunteer network. Miraculously, starting the same month that two recent events occurred, NOAA began to obtain data from a different source located on the other side of the country.

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EMH is correct. NOAA has admitted it. Since you sound like you must be from some Eastern Bloc communist nation (based on your vocabulary), I will explain that NOAA is the records-keeping office for the USA concerning all things weather-related. This is an important function of our government. They have recently been granted large increases in funding in order to track other aspects of "Climate" in general. Their continued funding depends on "Climate Change."

There are two problems that I have found.

One problem is that observation stations are disappearing. The actual observational reports no longer exist for some places. In the past, volunteers made observations for the program. Recently, the economy is so bad that people no longer have the time and resources to devote to reporting weather observations. To make up for the increasingly missing reports, someone decided they could use modeling software and satellite data to estimate the temperature and precipitation reports. It has been revealed (and admitted) that this was done without proper documentation, and these estimated values have been incorporated into global models for at least 30 years. I would be happy to have the discussion about the problems associated with changing measurement equipment and methodology and trying to compare the results with direct measurement using older, proven technology. There is also the distinct possibility of bias creeping into modeled data, not to mention various known physical problems.

The second problem is that observations are being increasingly filtered through different reporting agencies. In a recent study, I was doing research about precipitation. Until the month under consideration, all observations were reported through the normal volunteer network. Miraculously, starting the same month that two recent events occurred, NOAA began to obtain data from a different source located on the other side of the country.

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The Co2 FRAUD does not like the truth of Earth climate change, because the truth means

1. they lied
2. there is no climate crisis
 
EMH is correct. NOAA has admitted it. Since you sound like you must be from some Eastern Bloc communist nation (based on your vocabulary), I will explain that NOAA is the records-keeping office for the USA concerning all things weather-related. This is an important function of our government. They have recently been granted large increases in funding in order to track other aspects of "Climate" in general. Their continued funding depends on "Climate Change."

There are two problems that I have found.

One problem is that observation stations are disappearing. The actual observational reports no longer exist for some places. In the past, volunteers made observations for the program. Recently, the economy is so bad that people no longer have the time and resources to devote to reporting weather observations. To make up for the increasingly missing reports, someone decided they could use modeling software and satellite data to estimate the temperature and precipitation reports. It has been revealed (and admitted) that this was done without proper documentation, and these estimated values have been incorporated into global models for at least 30 years. I would be happy to have the discussion about the problems associated with changing measurement equipment and methodology and trying to compare the results with direct measurement using older, proven technology. There is also the distinct possibility of bias creeping into modeled data, not to mention various known physical problems.

The second problem is that observations are being increasingly filtered through different reporting agencies. In a recent study, I was doing research about precipitation. Until the month under consideration, all observations were reported through the normal volunteer network. Miraculously, starting the same month that two recent events occurred, NOAA began to obtain data from a different source located on the other side of the country.

View attachment 1017455
Another whirlwind, chaotic, unrelated, plethora of………babble.
 
There are two problems that I have found.
No, there's some bad propaganda that you saw on a conspiracy website somewheret. Did you really think we haven't seen this BS many times before?
One problem is that observation stations are disappearing.
Why is that a problem, given that there are still far more stations than are needed?

Take away 90% of the current stations, and the averages still don't change. The weather station network is far more redundant than it needs to be.

I can see your masters didn't tell you that. Interesting. They're hiding facts from you.

To make up for the increasingly missing reports, someone decided they could use modeling software and satellite data to estimate the temperature and precipitation reports.
No, that's conspiracy babble, unsupported by any actual facts.

It has been revealed (and admitted)
You're just peddling party propaganda there. The rest of the sheep are bleating it, and you always bleat along with the herd.

The second problem is that observations are being increasingly filtered through different reporting agencies.
No, they're not. The weather stations have been automated since the 1990s, and the data is all collected by the NWS.
 
No, there's some bad propaganda that you saw on a conspiracy website somewheret. Did you really think we haven't seen this BS many times before?

Why is that a problem, given that there are still far more stations than are needed?

Take away 90% of the current stations, and the averages still don't change. The weather station network is far more redundant than it needs to be.

I can see your masters didn't tell you that. Interesting. They're hiding facts from you.


No, that's conspiracy babble, unsupported by any actual facts.


You're just peddling party propaganda there. The rest of the sheep are bleating it, and you always bleat along with the herd.


No, they're not. The weather stations have been automated since the 1990s, and the data is all collected by the NWS.


This Mossad witch never posts anything but Mossad bullshit.

And yes, the Mossad is the enforcer of the Co2 FRAUD because the Co2 FRAUD is a Jewish Fraud.
 
This Mossad witch never posts anything but Mossad bullshit.

And yes, the Mossad is the enforcer of the Co2 FRAUD because the Co2 FRAUD is a Jewish Fraud.
Just what we always knew. You’re a bigot.
 
The Earth is currently in an interglacial period and altering tax levels will achieve bugger all.
 
The Earth is currently in an interglacial period and altering tax levels will achieve bugger all.


If Earth is in an "interglacial period" why are Antarctica and Greenland growing new ice core layers every year??


(and did so straight through all the rest of the bullshit "interglacials" too...)
 
If Earth is in an "interglacial period" why are Antarctica and Greenland growing new ice core layers every year??


(and did so straight through all the rest of the bullshit "interglacials" too...)
Because it is a dynamic process. You are a moron. No one is arguing the planet is not in an interglacial period but you.
 

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