Apparently we really need a "debate" over the term ICE AGE because y'all are all wrong...

Because when a planet warms its surface air pressure rises.

Sincerely,

Mars


Seasonal variation of Mars' global mean surface pressure at five ...' global mean surface pressure at five ...
We've already established that phenomenon is CO2 changing states from gaseous to solid thus affecting the composition of the gas. It's the composition which drives the pressure because it's the composition which determines density.

That you do not understand this is how I know you do not have a degree in physics.
 
We've already established that phenomenon is CO2 changing states from gaseous to solid thus affecting the composition of the gas. It's the composition which drives the pressure because it's the composition which determines density.

That you do not understand this is how I know you do not have a degree in physics.



Make up your mind.

Does adding gas to an atmosphere increase SAP or not???


So what would cause CO2 to "sublime," warming or cooling???
 
Nobody is claiming it is a fixed volume.


But you claim adding gas to it doesn't increase SAP, and that is IQ<5 par for the course CO2 FRAUD IDIOCY...
That is exactly what you are doing when you assume adding CO2 to the atmosphere must raise pressure.

Do you know who NOAA is?

Pressure

  • Air mass - huge volume of air that is relatively uniform in temperature and water vapor.
    • 1. Pressure increases with warmer temperatures (in closed container)
    • 2.But atmosphere has no walls, so heated air expands, becomes less dense. Thus, net result is that pressure actually decreases when heated.
      • a. Greater activity of the heated molecules increases the spacing between neighboring molecules and thus reduces air density. The decreasing air density then lowers the pressure exerted by the air. Warm air is thus lighter (less dense) than cold air and consequently exerts less pressure.
    • 3. Moist air is less dense than dry air!!
    • 4. Sinking air increases pressure at surface, and ascent decreases pressure at surface.
    • 5. In addition air pressure changes caused by variations of temperature and water vapor content, air pressure can also be influenced by the circulation pattern of air.
 
Make up your mind.

Does adding gas to an atmosphere increase SAP or not???


So what would cause CO2 to "sublime," warming or cooling???
Do you know who NOAA is?

Pressure

  • Air mass - huge volume of air that is relatively uniform in temperature and water vapor.
    • 1. Pressure increases with warmer temperatures (in closed container)
    • 2.But atmosphere has no walls, so heated air expands, becomes less dense. Thus, net result is that pressure actually decreases when heated.
      • a. Greater activity of the heated molecules increases the spacing between neighboring molecules and thus reduces air density. The decreasing air density then lowers the pressure exerted by the air. Warm air is thus lighter (less dense) than cold air and consequently exerts less pressure.
    • 3. Moist air is less dense than dry air!!
    • 4. Sinking air increases pressure at surface, and ascent decreases pressure at surface.
    • 5. In addition air pressure changes caused by variations of temperature and water vapor content, air pressure can also be influenced by the circulation pattern of air.
 
That is exactly what you are doing when you assume adding CO2 to the atmosphere must raise pressure


When you ADD GAS to an atmosphere, SURFACE AIR PRESSURE INCREASES, because if you subtracted out all gas, SURFACE AIR PRESSURE WOULD BE ZERO....

It doesn't matter what the gas is.



And then the CO2 FRAUD once again tries to explain PLANETARY SURFACE AIR PRESSURE with LOCAL WEATHER... because that's all it has left to argue...


When the WHOLE PLANET WARMS, SURFACE AIR PRESSURE INCREASES

Sincerely,

Pluto
Mars
Earth
Jurassic
 
Do you know who NOAA is?



NOAA employs a lot of fudgebaking traitors who should've been "terminated" when homO was Prez, (actually W was the first traitor to cover it up)....





We'll see if Trump's DOJ can get it out this time... part of what Covid was about, stopping that case from becoming public indictments...


Hearing about announcing the indictments canceled until February 2021 because of Covid...
 
When you ADD GAS to an atmosphere, SURFACE AIR PRESSURE INCREASES, because if you subtracted out all gas, SURFACE AIR PRESSURE WOULD BE ZERO....

It doesn't matter what the gas is.



And then the CO2 FRAUD once again tries to explain PLANETARY SURFACE AIR PRESSURE with LOCAL WEATHER... because that's all it has left to argue...


When the WHOLE PLANET WARMS, SURFACE AIR PRESSURE INCREASES

Sincerely,

Pluto
Mars
Earth
Jurassic
No. It doesn't, the atmosphere expands.

Again... the atmosphere is not a fixed volume. Which is why you can't find one source that says it is.
 
No. It doesn't, the atmosphere expands.

Again... the atmosphere is not a fixed volume. Which is why you can't find one source that says it is.



An atmosphere, number of gas molecules held constant, warms. When it warms, it does expand, because it has been

ACTED ON BY EXTERNAL FORCE

that force being HEAT which accelerates gas molecules

Force = mass (of the gas molecule) x acceleration (from heat)


That FORCE is converted to INCREASED AIR PRESSURE, which is WHY the atmosphere rises, but the pressure goes in ALL DIRECTIONS, not just up, and that is why

WHEN A PLANET WARMS ITS SURFACE AIR PRESSURE INCREASES


because ALL forms of air pressure are correlated with temperature
 
An atmosphere, number of gas molecules held constant, warms. When it warms, it does expand, because it has been

ACTED ON BY EXTERNAL FORCE

that force being HEAT which accelerates gas molecules

Force = mass (of the gas molecule) x acceleration (from heat)


That FORCE is converted to INCREASED AIR PRESSURE, which is WHY the atmosphere rises, but the pressure goes in ALL DIRECTIONS, not just up, and that is why

WHEN A PLANET WARMS ITS SURFACE AIR PRESSURE INCREASES


because ALL forms of air pressure are correlated with temperature
Do you know who NOAA is?

Pressure

  • Air mass - huge volume of air that is relatively uniform in temperature and water vapor.
    • 1. Pressure increases with warmer temperatures (in closed container)
    • 2.But atmosphere has no walls, so heated air expands, becomes less dense. Thus, net result is that pressure actually decreases when heated.
      • a. Greater activity of the heated molecules increases the spacing between neighboring molecules and thus reduces air density. The decreasing air density then lowers the pressure exerted by the air. Warm air is thus lighter (less dense) than cold air and consequently exerts less pressure.
    • 3. Moist air is less dense than dry air!!
    • 4. Sinking air increases pressure at surface, and ascent decreases pressure at surface.
    • 5. In addition air pressure changes caused by variations of temperature and water vapor content, air pressure can also be influenced by the circulation pattern of air.
 
An atmosphere, number of gas molecules held constant, warms. When it warms, it does expand, because it has been

ACTED ON BY EXTERNAL FORCE

that force being HEAT which accelerates gas molecules

Force = mass (of the gas molecule) x acceleration (from heat)


That FORCE is converted to INCREASED AIR PRESSURE, which is WHY the atmosphere rises, but the pressure goes in ALL DIRECTIONS, not just up, and that is why

WHEN A PLANET WARMS ITS SURFACE AIR PRESSURE INCREASES


because ALL forms of air pressure are correlated with temperature
It's because you aren't educated that you keep getting all of this science stuff backwards.
 
Mars refutes CO2 FRAUD NOAA MORONS...

When a planet warms, its SURFACE AIR PRESSURE INCREASES....

Seasonal variation of Mars' global mean surface pressure at five ...





Classic NOAA vs DATA


DATA always refutes NOAA....
 
Mars refutes CO2 FRAUD NOAA MORONS...

When a planet warms, its SURFACE AIR PRESSURE INCREASES....

Seasonal variation of Mars' global mean surface pressure at five ...' global mean surface pressure at five ...





Classic NOAA vs DATA


DATA always refutes NOAA....
If you added 1 million metric tons of methane every year to the atmosphere, what would happen to SAP?
 
When a planet warms, its SURFACE AIR PRESSURE INCREASES...
The example you are using is due to CO2 changing states from gaseous to solid. When this happens the gas composition changes and that's why SAP decreases. When the reverse happens, SAP increases also because of a change in gas composition.
 
If you added 1 million metric tons of methane every year to the atmosphere, what would happen to SAP?



Adding gas molecules to an atmosphere, all else constant, will increase SAP. Doesn't matter what the gas is.
 
Adding gas molecules to an atmosphere, all else constant, will increase SAP. Doesn't matter what the gas is.
Congratulations. You just admitted farts increase SAP as the estimated annual volume of farts on Earth is around 1 million metric tons of methane, with the average person producing roughly 1 liter of flatulent gas per day, though this can vary significantly based on diet and individual factors; however, it's important to note that this is a rough estimate and difficult to precisely calculate due to the variability in individual farting habits and the lack of comprehensive data collection on global flatulence.

Now we need to account for cow farts.
 
The example you are using is due to CO2 changing states from gaseous to solid



This gets really funny. So, CO2 sublimes from ice to gas. Was that from WARMING or COOLING???


LMFAO!!!


In the end, it doesn't matter if it was all temp increase or all gas added, the proof is there.

If your planet's SAP is not rising, then it is

NOT EXPERIENCING AN ONGOING NET ICE MELT/SUBLIME

and that is because

IT IS NOT WARMING


And THAT is PLANET EARTH...
 
This gets really funny. So, CO2 sublimes from ice to gas. Was that from WARMING or COOLING???


LMFAO!!!


In the end, it doesn't matter if it was all temp increase or all gas added, the proof is there.

If your planet's SAP is not rising, then it is

NOT EXPERIENCING AN ONGOING NET ICE MELT/SUBLIME

and that is because

IT IS NOT WARMING


And THAT is PLANET EARTH...
NOAA says you are wrong. Maybe if you were better educated, you wouldn't be made a fool so often.
 
NOAA is 100% pure CO2 FRAUD.

Has been for two decades....

Mars completely refutes NOAA, that "anti semitic" skateboard on Mars again...
NOAA is a fraud? :rofl:

Do you think anyone else here believes that besides you?

You don't understand the science because you aren't educated. So every time you make your goofy unsupported claims you are the one being fraudulent. You make people who oppose the theory of AGW look bad with your goofy fucked up science.
 
NOAA is a fraud? :rofl:

Do you think anyone else here believes that besides you?

You don't understand the science because you aren't educated. So every time you make your goofy unsupported claims you are the one being fraudulent. You make people who oppose the theory of AGW look bad with your goofy fucked up science.


NOAA says SAP is not correlated, or inversely correlated with temperature.


The skateboard on Mars refutes NOAA...

and you think that's funny...

Well... OK... FRAUD is FRAUD and NOAA is WRONG...
 

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