Any deep inspiring Spiritual Experiences? Share your Story!

[sparky]

i'm an ex-emt, 3 decades of service. We were told the 'hearing is always last to go' , but one wonders what depth of unconsiousness ,or even lifelessness that ends.

Our job was usually boring 95% of the time, a taxi ride.... the 5% that did matter were 'worked' , or in laymans terms fanning the last flames of life .

So how did some of these folks desribe what we did? describe our appearance even though they were never consious? recite what we said?

~S~

documented --unbiased links/etc?

Do you really think an emt would document something s/he was made aware of after the fact ?

Do you really think we document every 'wierd' thing that happens in the field?

~S~

so then it's just your opinion--not fact

Nothing celestial or spirtual is ever 'fact' .

the entire gist of 'faith' is based on belief.....opinion .....

no nasa rocket science need apply....

~S~

so not proven --exactly what I've been saying

flew right on over your head .......~S~

 

[harmonica]

documented --unbiased links/etc?

Do you really think an emt would document something s/he was made aware of after the fact ?

Do you really think we document every 'wierd' thing that happens in the field?

~S~

so then it's just your opinion--not fact

Nothing celestial or spirtual is ever 'fact' .

the entire gist of 'faith' is based on belief.....opinion .....

no nasa rocket science need apply....

~S~

so not proven --exactly what I've been saying

flew right on over your head .......~S~

hahahhahahahhaahhahaaa
sure--hahahhahaha
no divinity--no divine intervention --simple

 

[sparky]

Do you really think an emt would document something s/he was made aware of after the fact ?

Do you really think we document every 'wierd' thing that happens in the field?

~S~

so then it's just your opinion--not fact

Nothing celestial or spirtual is ever 'fact' .

the entire gist of 'faith' is based on belief.....opinion .....

no nasa rocket science need apply....

~S~

so not proven --exactly what I've been saying

flew right on over your head .......~S~

hahahhahahahhaahhahaaa
sure--hahahhahaha
no divinity--no divine intervention --simple

of which you've also.......no....proof!

~S~

 

[harmonica]

so then it's just your opinion--not fact

Nothing celestial or spirtual is ever 'fact' .

the entire gist of 'faith' is based on belief.....opinion .....

no nasa rocket science need apply....

~S~

so not proven --exactly what I've been saying

flew right on over your head .......~S~

hahahhahahahhaahhahaaa
sure--hahahhahaha
no divinity--no divine intervention --simple

of which you've also.......no....proof!

~S~

been over this a million times
.....YOU people have to prove it--not I to disprove--like court cases the state claims someone did something, the state HAS to prove it or it's bullshit--you people INITIALLY made the claim
..also--I can claim all kinds of bullshit:
I went to the moon and jesus served me breakfast
Elvis came to me and told me the Ten Commandments
etc

 

[norwegen]

Nothing celestial or spirtual is ever 'fact' .

the entire gist of 'faith' is based on belief.....opinion .....

no nasa rocket science need apply....

~S~

so not proven --exactly what I've been saying

flew right on over your head .......~S~

hahahhahahahhaahhahaaa
sure--hahahhahaha
no divinity--no divine intervention --simple

of which you've also.......no....proof!

~S~

been over this a million times
.....YOU people have to prove it--not I to disprove--like court cases the state claims someone did something, the state HAS to prove it or it's bullshit--you people INITIALLY made the claim
..also--I can claim all kinds of bullshit:
I went to the moon and jesus served me breakfast
Elvis came to me and told me the Ten Commandments
etc

No we don't. We don't have to prove God's existence. We can't prove it.

If you don't believe in Him, though, then you're engaging in a conversation that really doesn't concern you.

 

[ding]

Nothing celestial or spirtual is ever 'fact' .

the entire gist of 'faith' is based on belief.....opinion .....

no nasa rocket science need apply....

~S~

so not proven --exactly what I've been saying

flew right on over your head .......~S~

hahahhahahahhaahhahaaa
sure--hahahhahaha
no divinity--no divine intervention --simple

of which you've also.......no....proof!

~S~

been over this a million times
.....YOU people have to prove it--not I to disprove--like court cases the state claims someone did something, the state HAS to prove it or it's bullshit--you people INITIALLY made the claim
..also--I can claim all kinds of bullshit:
I went to the moon and jesus served me breakfast
Elvis came to me and told me the Ten Commandments
etc

Do you need proof the universe had a beginning?

 

[BreezeWood]

How does LOVE and FORGIVENESS heal and transform relationships?
Whether we call it divine or not, as long as we agree how this process
works, that's what matters and makes a difference in life!

"how this process works", that's what matters and makes a difference in life!

your a joke lynghiem ... your 4th century book of forgeries is everything that prevents the truth from being told and the fruition of the religion of antiquity from being fulfilled.

the phenomena of the physical world collectively, including plants, animals, the landscape, and other features and products of the earth, as opposed to humans or human creations.

- and products "of the earth"

primordial Earth is not the source of nature, life that evolved on the planets surface over time. nature's occurrence is a phenomena of the universe, metaphysical in origin - physiology itself, the physical component for life's subsistence is a metaphysical substance that disappears when its spiritual content is removed. -

prove their exists physiology anywhere that is not spiritual in origin ...

If you don't believe in Him (them), though, then you're engaging in a conversation that really doesn't concern you.

stfu

 

[harmonica]

so not proven --exactly what I've been saying

flew right on over your head .......~S~

hahahhahahahhaahhahaaa
sure--hahahhahaha
no divinity--no divine intervention --simple

of which you've also.......no....proof!

~S~

been over this a million times
.....YOU people have to prove it--not I to disprove--like court cases the state claims someone did something, the state HAS to prove it or it's bullshit--you people INITIALLY made the claim
..also--I can claim all kinds of bullshit:
I went to the moon and jesus served me breakfast
Elvis came to me and told me the Ten Commandments
etc

Do you need proof the universe had a beginning?

....we have no idea--can't even to scratch the surface--can't even touch the surface of knowing anything on any of this
...so you people need to insert '''all of this is not proven/not true --I just make it up'''

 

[harmonica]

so not proven --exactly what I've been saying

flew right on over your head .......~S~

hahahhahahahhaahhahaaa
sure--hahahhahaha
no divinity--no divine intervention --simple

of which you've also.......no....proof!

~S~

been over this a million times
.....YOU people have to prove it--not I to disprove--like court cases the state claims someone did something, the state HAS to prove it or it's bullshit--you people INITIALLY made the claim
..also--I can claim all kinds of bullshit:
I went to the moon and jesus served me breakfast
Elvis came to me and told me the Ten Commandments
etc

No we don't. We don't have to prove God's existence. We can't prove it.

If you don't believe in Him, though, then you're engaging in a conversation that really doesn't concern you.

wrong
...you people try to argue that god is real--so, if you don't prove it, you are full of shit --plain and simple

 

[sparky]

flew right on over your head .......~S~

hahahhahahahhaahhahaaa
sure--hahahhahaha
no divinity--no divine intervention --simple

of which you've also.......no....proof!

~S~

been over this a million times
.....YOU people have to prove it--not I to disprove--like court cases the state claims someone did something, the state HAS to prove it or it's bullshit--you people INITIALLY made the claim
..also--I can claim all kinds of bullshit:
I went to the moon and jesus served me breakfast
Elvis came to me and told me the Ten Commandments
etc

No we don't. We don't have to prove God's existence. We can't prove it.

If you don't believe in Him, though, then you're engaging in a conversation that really doesn't concern you.

wrong
...you people try to argue that god is real--so, if you don't prove it, you are full of shit --plain and simple

Methinks any 'court of law' places the onus of proof on the accuser Harmonica dude

~S~

 

[harmonica]

hahahhahahahhaahhahaaa
sure--hahahhahaha
no divinity--no divine intervention --simple

of which you've also.......no....proof!

~S~

been over this a million times
.....YOU people have to prove it--not I to disprove--like court cases the state claims someone did something, the state HAS to prove it or it's bullshit--you people INITIALLY made the claim
..also--I can claim all kinds of bullshit:
I went to the moon and jesus served me breakfast
Elvis came to me and told me the Ten Commandments
etc

No we don't. We don't have to prove God's existence. We can't prove it.

If you don't believe in Him, though, then you're engaging in a conversation that really doesn't concern you.

wrong
...you people try to argue that god is real--so, if you don't prove it, you are full of shit --plain and simple

Methinks any 'court of law' places the onus of proof on the accuser Harmonica dude

~S~

yes--that's what I said--and you KNOW it ........the accuser [ procesecuter ] accuses/ CLAIMS a crime has been committed .....YOU claim there is a god

 

[ding]

flew right on over your head .......~S~

hahahhahahahhaahhahaaa
sure--hahahhahaha
no divinity--no divine intervention --simple

of which you've also.......no....proof!

~S~

been over this a million times
.....YOU people have to prove it--not I to disprove--like court cases the state claims someone did something, the state HAS to prove it or it's bullshit--you people INITIALLY made the claim
..also--I can claim all kinds of bullshit:
I went to the moon and jesus served me breakfast
Elvis came to me and told me the Ten Commandments
etc

Do you need proof the universe had a beginning?

....we have no idea--can't even to scratch the surface--can't even touch the surface of knowing anything on any of this
...so you people need to insert '''all of this is not proven/not true --I just make it up'''

Stop being silly.

The fact that you deny the science tells me you don’t like what it means.

 

[harmonica]

hahahhahahahhaahhahaaa
sure--hahahhahaha
no divinity--no divine intervention --simple

of which you've also.......no....proof!

~S~

been over this a million times
.....YOU people have to prove it--not I to disprove--like court cases the state claims someone did something, the state HAS to prove it or it's bullshit--you people INITIALLY made the claim
..also--I can claim all kinds of bullshit:
I went to the moon and jesus served me breakfast
Elvis came to me and told me the Ten Commandments
etc

Do you need proof the universe had a beginning?

....we have no idea--can't even to scratch the surface--can't even touch the surface of knowing anything on any of this
...so you people need to insert '''all of this is not proven/not true --I just make it up'''

Stop being silly.

The fact that you deny the science tells me you don’t like what it means.

we've been over this before
plain and simple --you can't prove there is a god
.....we have NO idea what a god would be like--what the beginning of the Universe was like/etc ..it's all speculation-imagination----

 

[sparky]

neither of which requires proof.....~S~

 

[daveman]

Nothing celestial or spirtual is ever 'fact' .

the entire gist of 'faith' is based on belief.....opinion .....

no nasa rocket science need apply....

~S~

so not proven --exactly what I've been saying

flew right on over your head .......~S~

hahahhahahahhaahhahaaa
sure--hahahhahaha
no divinity--no divine intervention --simple

of which you've also.......no....proof!

~S~

been over this a million times
.....YOU people have to prove it--not I to disprove--like court cases the state claims someone did something, the state HAS to prove it or it's bullshit--you people INITIALLY made the claim
..also--I can claim all kinds of bullshit:
I went to the moon and jesus served me breakfast
Elvis came to me and told me the Ten Commandments
etc

You know what?

Despite all your desperate flailing about, all your NUH UH YOU BIG DOODYHEADS, all your petulant foot-stamping, all your pathetic attempts at distraction...

No one has ever given up their faith because of anything you're said.

You fail. Again. Constantly.

 

[ding]

of which you've also.......no....proof!

~S~

been over this a million times
.....YOU people have to prove it--not I to disprove--like court cases the state claims someone did something, the state HAS to prove it or it's bullshit--you people INITIALLY made the claim
..also--I can claim all kinds of bullshit:
I went to the moon and jesus served me breakfast
Elvis came to me and told me the Ten Commandments
etc

Do you need proof the universe had a beginning?

....we have no idea--can't even to scratch the surface--can't even touch the surface of knowing anything on any of this
...so you people need to insert '''all of this is not proven/not true --I just make it up'''

Stop being silly.

The fact that you deny the science tells me you don’t like what it means.

we've been over this before
plain and simple --you can't prove there is a god
.....we have NO idea what a god would be like--what the beginning of the Universe was like/etc ..it's all speculation-imagination----

So the universe having a beginning scares you

 

[Darkwind]

I've noticed spiritual experiences and prayers work in different ways.
Here are three major types that people have shared with me

1. Experience of having "miraculous" peace of mind or healing
of something that could not be explained, but the person took
as "Divine Intervention" from another level or dimension.

Have you ever experienced something so Divine,
that it changed your perspective and/or life?

2. Prayers being answered or the perfect solution
coming to a problem that you took to be divine fate or will.

Have you ever met someone or had something happen
that struck you as an Answer to prayers, or Divine Will and Timing?

3. And this has happened to me:
A realization that changes or events that happened "in the past"
were connected with prayers that didn't happen until the FUTURE.
So the prayer energy or spiritual process was independent of
linear time, and worked "holistically" where past and future
co-influence each other like a script designed as one continuous
story all at once (not in sequence as the linear enactment plays out in real life)

Have you ever had a spiritual experience where you
believe prayers or events in the future were linked
to changes caused in the past that seemed to have come out of nowhere?
(but it makes sense if you see the future event going "backward in time"
and changing the past events so the following consequences can occur).

SHARE YOUR STORY HERE
if you've had any events or spiritual experiences
like #1 #2 or #3
Please explain how this changed
your perspective or relationships in life.

Thank you for sharing!

I'd like to see a youtube channel
where people post these inspirational stories
and how it changed the way we look at life...

How about just a website?

 

[james bond]

I'm still going through mine now. I experienced some setbacks in life recently as my prayers were not being answered (about a year and three mos now). God told me that I was not giving Satan enough credit and belittling his powers. He stated my setbacks were attributed to him. He said he would send an angel, but I'm not sure what it means. My guardian angel is Raphael and he has protected me through thick and thin. Thus, I've changed my ways in how I interact with people here and how I would get rid of Satan before when tempted to listen to him and think life is good. Life can take a turn and you experience a series of negative events.

ETA: He also told me to look ahead and not behind as he told me things that would happen. This is the hard part as sometimes things in the past creep into my thinking.

 

[emilynghiem]

You can't prove the content of the dreams.
We can show the brain has certain activities that correspond to dream states.
But there is no proof of content.

Do you get what I'm saying harmonica?

We have been "taking it on faith" that people dream what they said they dream.
No proof.
All faith based on taking people's word for it!!!

have or have you not ever dreamed?

Yes but you cannot prove or disprove it.
It is based on faith, and we agree or not.

It is not based on scientific proof.

?????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!????????????!!!!
what?
so you have dreamed --but you say you can't prove dreaming exists.....???????!!!!!!!!!
huh?????
it's like 1 + 1 =2 ---you CAN'T deny that

Yes harmonica just because I have experienced a dream
doesn't mean I can prove it to you.

Just like you don't believe in divine experiences other people
have which they can't prove to you.

One of the most interesting perspectives on this was in the observations
Scott Peck wrote in his book Glimpses of the Devil. He did not believe
such demonic personalities or forces were "real entities" from another
plane or spiritual dimension that were invading the minds and taking
over conscious will of schizophrenic patients. He was certain these were
merely chemical or neurological disorders and delusions in the brain
that weren't real, but imagined by sick patients.

Until the day he interviewed patients sent to him by a friend, Malachi Martin,
who is historically known for his controversial work performing exorcisms
to rid people of demonic obsessions.

Even AFTER Peck saw these same manifestations, and witnessed these "demon"
personalities tell him things that were in his subconscious memories that his
patients did not and could not have known, Peck admitted he could NEVER PROVE
those spiritual experiences. He saw the snakelike and demonic personalities
manifest physically, and so did his team witness the same phenomena.

But all that remains FAITH BASED, so Peck struggled with how to reconcile this with science.

He still determined that the behaviors he could document as observable, quantifiable
changes or stages followed a set pattern so this was adequate to develop a model
for therapy, using standard scientific methods.

So BOTH things were going on:
A. the quantifiable measurable effects that can be established and replicated
as following a pattern, from sickness to healing and recovery
B. the SPIRITUAL factors or process that CANNOT be proven but remain faith based

harmonica I wish you could research the process used by spiritual healing
including deliverance and exorcism, and compare reports. Even if the visions
that manifest during the process are on the level of "dreams" and not real in the
sense of the physical world we experience empirically, if we can agree "dreams"
are real, why can't we agree that these "demons" and "demonic activity" are real.

How many experiments would have to be replicated, where people report seeing
these "demonic" manifestations? Before these are accepted as "real" the way "dreams" are?

wrong and wrong
....you have had dreams so we KNOW people dream--there is no more to it --plain and simple

???

Dear harmonica
We are still taking it on faith because we cannot prove anyone dreamed what they said they dreamed.
You are making a leap of faith, because you have experienced dreams.
but that doesn't mean you have proved it to anyone else.

I'm saying the people who have these "spiritual experiences" share with each other
the same way you assume people are "telling the truth" when they said they dreamed something
because you experience dreams. So you ASSUME they are telling the truth.

Same with these spiritual experiences.
The people who have them "understand"
so when someone else has them also, they ASSUME they are telling the truth.

It's still faith based!

 

[emilynghiem]

....it's like when one person is saved out of many from a plane crash/etc --they say ''thank god he was saved'' ...''divine intervention saved him'' ...etc

When it happens to other people, you may think it is just rationalization.

But when it happens to you, where you sense some deeper connection, then it's different.

Your comment reminds me of a "divine" coincidence story I read in Reader's Digest.

Of two passengers sitting next to each other on a plane, one had just lost a family
member and was heading that direction, while the other had a sick family member
in desperate need of an transplant. They agreed to have the deceased tested
for possible compatibility. It was a longshot, but it turned out to be a match. So the
deceased person ended up saving the life of someone else, by their family members sitting together on a plane.

point being there is no divine intervention/etc

Dear harmonica
Maybe what others call "divine intervention" you are calling nature.
That's fine as well. Agnes Sanford also taught people that God was
the same as Nature. You don't have to call this "divine "in order to
be talking about the same thing. If we can agree to call it LAWS OF NATURE
that's saying the same things.

1. How do you describe the point at which life or the personality of someone
either enters the human body during development, or develops over time.

Where does that come from. Does life come from within the cells and just
generates itself. Does it come from forces outside the physical body?

2. Also what do you call the life energy connecting all living things in
an Ecosystem. Did all these things develop individually? Or did
they develop in connection with each other holistically?

3. Also how do you describe either
Collective humanity or society
Collective truth or knowledge
Universal laws of nature and the world

Do you believe in a collective body of laws that already
exists and is independent of anything man made up?

no god--no divinity/divine
di·vine1
/dəˈvīn/
adjective

1. 1.
   of, from, or like God or a god

na·ture
/ˈnāCHər/
noun

1. 1.
   the phenomena of the physical world collectively, including plants, animals, the landscape, and other features and products of the earth, as opposed to humans or human creations.

Dear harmonica
When we are talking about the LAWS of nature,
and UNIVERSAL laws, that's the same meaning
when people refer to GOD'S LAWS.

This is taking ON FAITH that there are SELF-EXISTENT
or PRE-EXISTING "laws" of the universe and nature.

NOTE 1: there is nothing in the "dictionary"
that defines JESUS to mean JUSTICE either.

But in practical terms,
faith in "Christ Jesus" translates in meaning
as FAITH IN RESTORATIVE JUSTICE.

That's not in any dictionary.
But that's what that symbolism means!

NOTE 2: People say God is Love.
That's not what you will find in the dictionary.

To love is to understand.
You will not find that in any dictionary.

God is also equated with Wisdom.
The name SOPHIA predates references to God as the Heavenly Father.
In fact, references in the bible to GOD as WISDOM outnumber references
to God as Heavenly Father by 10 times.

Are you going to find any definition in the dictionary
equating GOD with WISDOM?

But that's one of the oldest names of God.