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It sure is a good thing they have such stringent anti-gun laws in England. These prostitutes might have been able to defend themselves and this good samaritin that is doing such a good job with his hands might have been stopped. When are we going to adopt the ways of Europe and get rid of all those messy guns and get back to clean strangulations or a quiet knife or machete.

http://today.reuters.com/news/artic...=&cap=&sz=13&WTModLoc=NewsArt-C1-ArticlePage1

British police issue TV image of dead prostitute
Sat Dec 16, 2006 10:14am ET

By John Joseph

LONDON (Reuters) - British police released surveillance television footage of one of five murdered prostitutes on Saturday as they stepped up their hunt for a possible serial killer.

The image of Anneli Alderton, 24, who was three months pregnant when she was murdered, shows her traveling on a train between the towns of Harwich and Colchester in eastern England on December 3, a week before her body was found.

All five prostitutes were naked when their bodies were discovered and police said the images were important for forensic evidence purposes, as well as trying to determine Alderton's movements in the final hours before her death.


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"I would ask people to look carefully at the images," Chief Superintendent Stewart Gull told a news conference on Saturday. "If anyone saw Anneli after the evening of Sunday 3 December, we want to hear from them."

Alderton was pictured wearing a black jacket with a fur-lined hood, a gray top and blue jeans.

The case has echoes of those involving the 19th century prostitute killer Jack the Ripper, who was never found, and Peter Sutcliffe, the Yorkshire Ripper, who killed 13 women, mainly prostitutes, in northern England between 1975 and 1980.

The murderer has been dubbed the Suffolk Strangler, although the precise way all the women died is yet to be established. [-] Text [+]

Prostitutes in the region are being offered financial help to stay off the streets but some have ignored police warnings and carried on working, many to feed drug habits, despite the discovery of the five bodies in less than two weeks.

Prostitution in Britain is legal but there are laws that make providing sex for money difficult. For example, a woman can sell sex in an apartment, but advertising sexual services, streetwalking, brothels and kerb crawling are all illegal.

BETTER PROTECTION

The case has sparked calls for better protection for prostitutes, or the creation of legalized brothels so women don't have to solicit for sex on the street.


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About 350 officers are working on the inquiry and staff from more than 30 forces -- including Northern Ireland -- are trying to find the killer. Police said they were making progress.

"We are feeling confident about the inquiry," assistant Chief Constable Jacqui Cheer told the BBC on Saturday. "We're getting lots and lots of information in."

No one has been arrested or questioned as a suspect, but police were seeking a number of people, between 50 and 100.

As well as poring over 10,000 hours of surveillance television (CCTV) footage, police have received 9,000 calls following a public appeal for information.

The police inquiry began on December 2 when the body of Gemma Adams, 25, was found in a stream near Ipswich. Police found 19-year-old Tania Nicol's body in the same stream on December 8.

Police on Friday confirmed prostitute Annette Nicholls as the fifth victim. Nicholls, 29, was last seen on December 5, a week before her naked body was found dumped in countryside.

Alderton was strangled and Paula Clennell, 24, was killed by "compression to the neck".

© Reuters 2006. All Rights Reserved.
 

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It sure is a good thing they have such stringent anti-gun laws in England. These prostitutes might have been able to defend themselves and this good samaritin that is doing such a good job with his hands might have been stopped. When are we going to adopt the ways of Europe and get rid of all those messy guns and get back to clean strangulations or a quiet knife or machete.
If guns are the answer, why does the US have the highest homicide rate in the Western World, not just with raw data, but per capita, too...

old study, but food for thought...http://www.guncite.com/cnngunde.html
 

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If guns are the answer, why does the US have the highest homicide rate in the Western World, not just with raw data, but per capita, too...

old study, but food for thought...http://www.guncite.com/cnngunde.html
This does not say the US has the highest homicide rate in the Western World.

Venezuela has a higher homocide rate.
Russia has a higher homocide rate.
Mexico has a higher homocide rate.
Lithuania has a higher homocide rate.
Latvia has a higher homocide rate.
Estonia has a higher homocide rate.
El Salvador has a higher homocide rate.
Equador has a higher homocide rate.
Columbia has a higher homocide rate.
Brazil has a higher homocide rate.
Belarus has a higher homocide rate.
The Bahamas has a higher homocide rate.
Armenia has a higher homocide rate.

Cliky
 

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I'd a thought armed-to-the-teeth drug gangs woulda been more accurate....
liberals wont arrest them. deport them or put them in jail for fear they will make them feel bad about themselves....
 

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liberals wont arrest them. deport them or put them in jail for fear they will make them feel bad about themselves....
Buncha crap, babe. You're smarter than that. It's because we have a culture of guns and violence. A good part of that is due to the fact that certain "conservative" types would rather their kids saw someone getting his head blown off than see a woman's naked breasts, even on a statue in a museum.

The rest of it is because as a ridiculously puritanical society, we insist on criminalizing drugs instead of the government legalizing them and taxing their sale. Thus, there is a market and drug dealers defend their turfs same as abolition gave organized crime its foothold. Decriminalize the drugs and end this useless war of drugs and you get rid of most gun crime. You also make room in the prisons for the people who really belong there and not poor pathetic creatures who got nailed by draconian laws like the Rockefeller Drug Laws.

As for the real criminals who do use guns illegally... lock 'em up and throw away the key.
 

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Buncha crap, babe. You're smarter than that. It's because we have a culture of guns and violence. A good part of that is due to the fact that certain "conservative" types would rather their kids saw someone getting his head blown off than see a woman's naked breasts, even on a statue in a museum.

The rest of it is because as a ridiculously puritanical society, we insist on criminalizing drugs instead of the government legalizing them and taxing their sale. Thus, there is a market and drug dealers defend their turfs same as abolition gave organized crime its foothold. Decriminalize the drugs and end this useless war of drugs and you get rid of most gun crime. You also make room in the prisons for the people who really belong there and not poor pathetic creatures who got nailed by draconian laws like the Rockefeller Drug Laws.

As for the real criminals who do use guns illegally... lock 'em up and throw away the key.
riding to gumpys rescue again....how cute....
 

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Buncha crap, babe. You're smarter than that. It's because we have a culture of guns and violence. A good part of that is due to the fact that certain "conservative" types would rather their kids saw someone getting his head blown off than see a woman's naked breasts, even on a statue in a museum.

The rest of it is because as a ridiculously puritanical society, we insist on criminalizing drugs instead of the government legalizing them and taxing their sale. Thus, there is a market and drug dealers defend their turfs same as abolition gave organized crime its foothold. Decriminalize the drugs and end this useless war of drugs and you get rid of most gun crime. You also make room in the prisons for the people who really belong there and not poor pathetic creatures who got nailed by draconian laws like the Rockefeller Drug Laws.

As for the real criminals who do use guns illegally... lock 'em up and throw away the key.
legalize drugs and voila--most gun crime disappears !!!

bullshit
 

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Buncha crap, babe. You're smarter than that. It's because we have a culture of guns and violence. A good part of that is due to the fact that certain "conservative" types would rather their kids saw someone getting his head blown off than see a woman's naked breasts, even on a statue in a museum.

The rest of it is because as a ridiculously puritanical society, we insist on criminalizing drugs instead of the government legalizing them and taxing their sale. Thus, there is a market and drug dealers defend their turfs same as abolition gave organized crime its foothold. Decriminalize the drugs and end this useless war of drugs and you get rid of most gun crime. You also make room in the prisons for the people who really belong there and not poor pathetic creatures who got nailed by draconian laws like the Rockefeller Drug Laws.

As for the real criminals who do use guns illegally... lock 'em up and throw away the key.
It's so easy to blame conservatives... the fact is, that concealed gun laws may actually help decrease crime.

A "ridiculously puritanical society"? Have you watched TV or gone to the movies lately?

And which drugs are you proposing we legalize? Heroin? Cocaine? LSD? Speed? Making those drugs legal won't make them less addictive, or dangerous. If you make drugs cheap, you'll increase their demand, witness what happened with crack. Cocaine use has sky rocketed because it's now cheap. There is no way to get around the Law of Supply and Demand.
 

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This does not say the US has the highest homicide rate in the Western World.

Venezuela has a higher homocide rate.
Russia has a higher homocide rate.
Mexico has a higher homocide rate.
Lithuania has a higher homocide rate.
Latvia has a higher homocide rate.
Estonia has a higher homocide rate.
El Salvador has a higher homocide rate.
Equador has a higher homocide rate.
Columbia has a higher homocide rate.
Brazil has a higher homocide rate.
Belarus has a higher homocide rate.
The Bahamas has a higher homocide rate.
Armenia has a higher homocide rate.

Cliky
None of those countries are western/first world countries. Different argument too...your link includes suicide rate too...I'm talking murder. Dunno if I would say homicides include suicides. That aside, I reiterate, the countries you are talking about aren't considered western nations...
 

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None of those countries are western/first world countries. Different argument too...your link includes suicide rate too...I'm talking murder. Dunno if I would say homicides include suicides. That aside, I reiterate, the countries you are talking about aren't considered western nations...
opening qoute from you link "among the world's 36 richest nations, a government study found. "

Here are gun-related deaths per 100,000 people in the world's 36 richest countries in 1994: United States 14.24; Brazil 12.95; Mexico 12.69; Estonia 12.26; Argentina 8.93; Northern Ireland 6.63; Finland 6.46; Switzerland 5.31; France 5.15; Canada 4.31; Norway 3.82; Austria 3.70; Portugal 3.20; Israel 2.91; Belgium 2.90; Australia 2.65; Slovenia 2.60; Italy 2.44; New Zealand 2.38; Denmark 2.09; Sweden 1.92; Kuwait 1.84; Greece 1.29; Germany 1.24; Hungary 1.11; Republic of Ireland 0.97; Spain 0.78; Netherlands 0.70; Scotland 0.54; England and Wales 0.41; Taiwan 0.37; Singapore 0.21; Mauritius 0.19; Hong Kong 0.14; South Korea 0.12; Japan 0.05.
 

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opening qoute from you link "among the world's 36 richest nations, a government study found. "
Which is why I said "food for thought" and "old study"...wouldn't put too much stock in it. My first sentence in that post did say "western world"...
 

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The vast majority on my list were. At least 27 of the 36 and a couple are knocking on the door. Not one on Loki's list was as far as I can tell... And no, I see don't see Kuwait as part of the western world..
hate to tell you but brazil and estonia were on both lists
 

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