Another person claiming animals are the same as people

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What We Owe a Rabbit | Thomas Nagel

Christine Korsgaard is a distinguished philosopher who has taught at Harvard for most of her career. Though not known to the general public, she is eminent within the field for her penetrating and analytically dense writings on ethical theory and her critical interpretations of the works of...

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The idea that we must stop eating meat is basically unscientific and foolish. We are Omnivores and depend on meat for many of our essential ingredients to survive, vegans and vegetarians must take special care and must do specific things to make up for the lose of meat in their diet. I agree we should not abuse animals but yes we should eat meat and that means harvesting animals. I also agree that we should use them in scientific processes for OUR benefit.

The claim it is morally wrong to kill animals is foolish short sighted and I believe IGNORANT. Every animal that is a meat eater KILLS other animals. And failure to control population would result in massive deaths due to starvation of animals and ruination of Human crops.

Vegetarians are vegetable killers anyway, they just refuse to see the truth

Yeah, because a carrot is just like a pig who is as smart or SMARTER than your dog, and has the cognitive abilities of a 3 year old child.

But I'm pretty sure you were joking and not using that as an argument.

Should all wolves bears and lions be trained to eat leaves?

I was fully serious, you are clueless

You really are equating a vegetable with a thinking, feeling animal that has the cognitive abilities of a 3 year old child? Seriously?

You really see no difference between cutting into a head of lettuce and cutting into a sentient animal who is screaming for his life?

Come on, I thought you were smarter than that, I hope I didn't give you too much credit.

Do impalas think and feel when a lion ambushes them? Do you want all lions killed because they kill?

Poor slob, why do you hate lions, what did they ever do to you?

We went over this earlier in the thread. I'll paraphrase what I said earlier.

Yes, some eat other animals but that doesn't mean humans should. Some animals also eat their own caca and rape each other, does that means humans should do those things too? Animals are not our moral compass. But if you're going to model the behavior of animals, why be a predator? There are tons of peaceful herbivorous animals, why not use them as your role model?

We have a greater ability to reason, to make wise choices, to have compassionate, etc. So because we are "above" the animals in that sense, that is all the more reason for us to NOT act like barbaric, bloodthirsty predators.

I know you won't agree with this, because I'm pretty sure you're not a Christian? (correct me if I'm wrong) but the reason why some animals eat each other and there is so much violence in this world is because this is a fallen world, it is nothing like the way it was originally, and it's nothing like the way God intended it to be. The way God intended it to be is clear in the pre-fall world and in the new earth and heaven. Peace and harmony. No cruelty, exploitation, abuse and needless killing.

LOL and YET god made every animal UNDER man. And I am sorry but we were never intended to be herbivores, Not God and NOT science support that claim, that is delusional comments from a person trying to force their views on others. Meat eaters do not try and force vegans to eat meat why is it vegans try to force meat eaters to do as they want again?

Read Genesis 1:29-30 to see in black and white what God's intent was when He created us and the animals.

Also, read the blog post I linked to, I go over this very topic.

A Closer Look At Dominion - Live Mercifully

As a Christian vegan, one of the most common objections to veganism that I encounter when talking to other Christians is, “But man was given dominion over the animals.” So I want to talk about this very important concept that I believe has been deeply misunderstood. This misunderstanding is at...

www.livemercifully.com

 

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And I am sorry but we were never intended to be herbivores, Not God and NOT science support that claim

That is demonstrably false.

Meat eaters do not try and force vegans to eat meat why is it vegans try to force meat eaters to do as they want again?

I am not forcing you to do anything. An exchange of ideas is not "forcing."

But I do think it's kinda amusing that people like you want the principle of "live and let live" to apply to YOU, but you don't apply that same principle to others, including the animals you eat, who are just as smart and feeling as your dog. Why are you forcing your views on them?

 

[esalla]

What We Owe a Rabbit | Thomas Nagel

Christine Korsgaard is a distinguished philosopher who has taught at Harvard for most of her career. Though not known to the general public, she is eminent within the field for her penetrating and analytically dense writings on ethical theory and her critical interpretations of the works of...

getpocket.com

The idea that we must stop eating meat is basically unscientific and foolish. We are Omnivores and depend on meat for many of our essential ingredients to survive, vegans and vegetarians must take special care and must do specific things to make up for the lose of meat in their diet. I agree we should not abuse animals but yes we should eat meat and that means harvesting animals. I also agree that we should use them in scientific processes for OUR benefit.

The claim it is morally wrong to kill animals is foolish short sighted and I believe IGNORANT. Every animal that is a meat eater KILLS other animals. And failure to control population would result in massive deaths due to starvation of animals and ruination of Human crops.

Vegetarians are vegetable killers anyway, they just refuse to see the truth

Yeah, because a carrot is just like a pig who is as smart or SMARTER than your dog, and has the cognitive abilities of a 3 year old child.

But I'm pretty sure you were joking and not using that as an argument.

Should all wolves bears and lions be trained to eat leaves?

I was fully serious, you are clueless

You really are equating a vegetable with a thinking, feeling animal that has the cognitive abilities of a 3 year old child? Seriously?

You really see no difference between cutting into a head of lettuce and cutting into a sentient animal who is screaming for his life?

Come on, I thought you were smarter than that, I hope I didn't give you too much credit.

Do impalas think and feel when a lion ambushes them? Do you want all lions killed because they kill?

Poor slob, why do you hate lions, what did they ever do to you?

We went over this earlier in the thread. I'll paraphrase what I said earlier.

Yes, some eat other animals but that doesn't mean humans should. Some animals also eat their own caca and rape each other, does that means humans should do those things too? Animals are not our moral compass. But if you're going to model the behavior of animals, why be a predator? There are tons of peaceful herbivorous animals, why not use them as your role model?

We have a greater ability to reason, to make wise choices, to have compassionate, etc. So because we are "above" the animals in that sense, that is all the more reason for us to NOT act like barbaric, bloodthirsty predators.

I know you won't agree with this, because I'm pretty sure you're not a Christian? (correct me if I'm wrong) but the reason why some animals eat each other and there is so much violence in this world is because this is a fallen world, it is nothing like the way it was originally, and it's nothing like the way God intended it to be. The way God intended it to be is clear in the pre-fall world and in the new earth and heaven. Peace and harmony. No cruelty, exploitation, abuse and needless killing.

Humans are animals, they have the same rights to live and eat as any other animal. Go climb a tree no one takes you seriously

 

[buttercup]

What We Owe a Rabbit | Thomas Nagel

Christine Korsgaard is a distinguished philosopher who has taught at Harvard for most of her career. Though not known to the general public, she is eminent within the field for her penetrating and analytically dense writings on ethical theory and her critical interpretations of the works of...

getpocket.com

The idea that we must stop eating meat is basically unscientific and foolish. We are Omnivores and depend on meat for many of our essential ingredients to survive, vegans and vegetarians must take special care and must do specific things to make up for the lose of meat in their diet. I agree we should not abuse animals but yes we should eat meat and that means harvesting animals. I also agree that we should use them in scientific processes for OUR benefit.

The claim it is morally wrong to kill animals is foolish short sighted and I believe IGNORANT. Every animal that is a meat eater KILLS other animals. And failure to control population would result in massive deaths due to starvation of animals and ruination of Human crops.

Vegetarians are vegetable killers anyway, they just refuse to see the truth

Yeah, because a carrot is just like a pig who is as smart or SMARTER than your dog, and has the cognitive abilities of a 3 year old child.

But I'm pretty sure you were joking and not using that as an argument.

Should all wolves bears and lions be trained to eat leaves?

I was fully serious, you are clueless

You really are equating a vegetable with a thinking, feeling animal that has the cognitive abilities of a 3 year old child? Seriously?

You really see no difference between cutting into a head of lettuce and cutting into a sentient animal who is screaming for his life?

Come on, I thought you were smarter than that, I hope I didn't give you too much credit.

Do impalas think and feel when a lion ambushes them? Do you want all lions killed because they kill?

Poor slob, why do you hate lions, what did they ever do to you?

We went over this earlier in the thread. I'll paraphrase what I said earlier.

Yes, some eat other animals but that doesn't mean humans should. Some animals also eat their own caca and rape each other, does that means humans should do those things too? Animals are not our moral compass. But if you're going to model the behavior of animals, why be a predator? There are tons of peaceful herbivorous animals, why not use them as your role model?

We have a greater ability to reason, to make wise choices, to have compassionate, etc. So because we are "above" the animals in that sense, that is all the more reason for us to NOT act like barbaric, bloodthirsty predators.

I know you won't agree with this, because I'm pretty sure you're not a Christian? (correct me if I'm wrong) but the reason why some animals eat each other and there is so much violence in this world is because this is a fallen world, it is nothing like the way it was originally, and it's nothing like the way God intended it to be. The way God intended it to be is clear in the pre-fall world and in the new earth and heaven. Peace and harmony. No cruelty, exploitation, abuse and needless killing.

Humans are animals, they have the same rights to live and eat as any other animal. Go climb a tree no one takes you seriously

Yes, and that bloodthirsty, predatory, selfish mindset that humans have is at the root of all that is wrong with this world.

It won't be that way forever though. But I don't at all expect you to believe that, since you made it pretty clear you're not a Christian.

 

[CarlinAnnArbor]

What We Owe a Rabbit | Thomas Nagel

Christine Korsgaard is a distinguished philosopher who has taught at Harvard for most of her career. Though not known to the general public, she is eminent within the field for her penetrating and analytically dense writings on ethical theory and her critical interpretations of the works of...

getpocket.com

The idea that we must stop eating meat is basically unscientific and foolish. We are Omnivores and depend on meat for many of our essential ingredients to survive, vegans and vegetarians must take special care and must do specific things to make up for the lose of meat in their diet. I agree we should not abuse animals but yes we should eat meat and that means harvesting animals. I also agree that we should use them in scientific processes for OUR benefit.

The claim it is morally wrong to kill animals is foolish short sighted and I believe IGNORANT. Every animal that is a meat eater KILLS other animals. And failure to control population would result in massive deaths due to starvation of animals and ruination of Human crops.

You are ignorant on this topic. You simply believe what you've been told.

We are NOT "Omnivores" any more than we are born cannibals.

A whole plant based diet is how Man was created.

In fact, the vast majority of the ills afflicting Mankind are due to consuming dead flesh. Heart disease and cancer, and so many other ailments are the result of consuming dead flesh.

 

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What We Owe a Rabbit | Thomas Nagel

Christine Korsgaard is a distinguished philosopher who has taught at Harvard for most of her career. Though not known to the general public, she is eminent within the field for her penetrating and analytically dense writings on ethical theory and her critical interpretations of the works of...

getpocket.com

The idea that we must stop eating meat is basically unscientific and foolish. We are Omnivores and depend on meat for many of our essential ingredients to survive, vegans and vegetarians must take special care and must do specific things to make up for the lose of meat in their diet. I agree we should not abuse animals but yes we should eat meat and that means harvesting animals. I also agree that we should use them in scientific processes for OUR benefit.

The claim it is morally wrong to kill animals is foolish short sighted and I believe IGNORANT. Every animal that is a meat eater KILLS other animals. And failure to control population would result in massive deaths due to starvation of animals and ruination of Human crops.

Vegetarians are vegetable killers anyway, they just refuse to see the truth

Yeah, because a carrot is just like a pig who is as smart or SMARTER than your dog, and has the cognitive abilities of a 3 year old child.

But I'm pretty sure you were joking and not using that as an argument.

Should all wolves bears and lions be trained to eat leaves?

I was fully serious, you are clueless

You really are equating a vegetable with a thinking, feeling animal that has the cognitive abilities of a 3 year old child? Seriously?

You really see no difference between cutting into a head of lettuce and cutting into a sentient animal who is screaming for his life?

Come on, I thought you were smarter than that, I hope I didn't give you too much credit.

Do impalas think and feel when a lion ambushes them? Do you want all lions killed because they kill?

Poor slob, why do you hate lions, what did they ever do to you?

We went over this earlier in the thread. I'll paraphrase what I said earlier.

Yes, some eat other animals but that doesn't mean humans should. Some animals also eat their own caca and rape each other, does that means humans should do those things too? Animals are not our moral compass. But if you're going to model the behavior of animals, why be a predator? There are tons of peaceful herbivorous animals, why not use them as your role model?

We have a greater ability to reason, to make wise choices, to have compassionate, etc. So because we are "above" the animals in that sense, that is all the more reason for us to NOT act like barbaric, bloodthirsty predators.

I know you won't agree with this, because I'm pretty sure you're not a Christian? (correct me if I'm wrong) but the reason why some animals eat each other and there is so much violence in this world is because this is a fallen world, it is nothing like the way it was originally, and it's nothing like the way God intended it to be. The way God intended it to be is clear in the pre-fall world and in the new earth and heaven. Peace and harmony. No cruelty, exploitation, abuse and needless killing.

Humans are animals, they have the same rights to live and eat as any other animal. Go climb a tree no one takes you seriously

Yes, and that bloodthirsty, predatory, selfish mindset that humans have is at the root of all that is wrong with this world.

It won't be that way forever though. But I don't at all expect you to believe that, since you made it pretty clear you're not a Christian.

LOL do you seriously expect my dogs to start eating grass?

You are a moron

Life ignores your hate

 

[buttercup]

What We Owe a Rabbit | Thomas Nagel

Christine Korsgaard is a distinguished philosopher who has taught at Harvard for most of her career. Though not known to the general public, she is eminent within the field for her penetrating and analytically dense writings on ethical theory and her critical interpretations of the works of...

getpocket.com

The idea that we must stop eating meat is basically unscientific and foolish. We are Omnivores and depend on meat for many of our essential ingredients to survive, vegans and vegetarians must take special care and must do specific things to make up for the lose of meat in their diet. I agree we should not abuse animals but yes we should eat meat and that means harvesting animals. I also agree that we should use them in scientific processes for OUR benefit.

The claim it is morally wrong to kill animals is foolish short sighted and I believe IGNORANT. Every animal that is a meat eater KILLS other animals. And failure to control population would result in massive deaths due to starvation of animals and ruination of Human crops.

Vegetarians are vegetable killers anyway, they just refuse to see the truth

Yeah, because a carrot is just like a pig who is as smart or SMARTER than your dog, and has the cognitive abilities of a 3 year old child.

But I'm pretty sure you were joking and not using that as an argument.

Should all wolves bears and lions be trained to eat leaves?

I was fully serious, you are clueless

You really are equating a vegetable with a thinking, feeling animal that has the cognitive abilities of a 3 year old child? Seriously?

You really see no difference between cutting into a head of lettuce and cutting into a sentient animal who is screaming for his life?

Come on, I thought you were smarter than that, I hope I didn't give you too much credit.

Do impalas think and feel when a lion ambushes them? Do you want all lions killed because they kill?

Poor slob, why do you hate lions, what did they ever do to you?

We went over this earlier in the thread. I'll paraphrase what I said earlier.

Yes, some eat other animals but that doesn't mean humans should. Some animals also eat their own caca and rape each other, does that means humans should do those things too? Animals are not our moral compass. But if you're going to model the behavior of animals, why be a predator? There are tons of peaceful herbivorous animals, why not use them as your role model?

We have a greater ability to reason, to make wise choices, to have compassionate, etc. So because we are "above" the animals in that sense, that is all the more reason for us to NOT act like barbaric, bloodthirsty predators.

I know you won't agree with this, because I'm pretty sure you're not a Christian? (correct me if I'm wrong) but the reason why some animals eat each other and there is so much violence in this world is because this is a fallen world, it is nothing like the way it was originally, and it's nothing like the way God intended it to be. The way God intended it to be is clear in the pre-fall world and in the new earth and heaven. Peace and harmony. No cruelty, exploitation, abuse and needless killing.

Humans are animals, they have the same rights to live and eat as any other animal. Go climb a tree no one takes you seriously

Yes, and that bloodthirsty, predatory, selfish mindset that humans have is at the root of all that is wrong with this world.

It won't be that way forever though. But I don't at all expect you to believe that, since you made it pretty clear you're not a Christian.

LOL do you seriously expect my dogs to start eating grass?

You are a moron

Life ignores your hate

Thanks for confirming what I said.

And talk about projection. The only hate is coming from you, have you read your own posts? ("you're a moron" "poor slob" "nobody takes you seriously" etc)

But no worries, I'm used to getting hate on this topic from folks like you.

 

[esalla]

What We Owe a Rabbit | Thomas Nagel

Christine Korsgaard is a distinguished philosopher who has taught at Harvard for most of her career. Though not known to the general public, she is eminent within the field for her penetrating and analytically dense writings on ethical theory and her critical interpretations of the works of...

getpocket.com

The idea that we must stop eating meat is basically unscientific and foolish. We are Omnivores and depend on meat for many of our essential ingredients to survive, vegans and vegetarians must take special care and must do specific things to make up for the lose of meat in their diet. I agree we should not abuse animals but yes we should eat meat and that means harvesting animals. I also agree that we should use them in scientific processes for OUR benefit.

The claim it is morally wrong to kill animals is foolish short sighted and I believe IGNORANT. Every animal that is a meat eater KILLS other animals. And failure to control population would result in massive deaths due to starvation of animals and ruination of Human crops.

Vegetarians are vegetable killers anyway, they just refuse to see the truth

Yeah, because a carrot is just like a pig who is as smart or SMARTER than your dog, and has the cognitive abilities of a 3 year old child.

But I'm pretty sure you were joking and not using that as an argument.

Should all wolves bears and lions be trained to eat leaves?

I was fully serious, you are clueless

You really are equating a vegetable with a thinking, feeling animal that has the cognitive abilities of a 3 year old child? Seriously?

You really see no difference between cutting into a head of lettuce and cutting into a sentient animal who is screaming for his life?

Come on, I thought you were smarter than that, I hope I didn't give you too much credit.

Do impalas think and feel when a lion ambushes them? Do you want all lions killed because they kill?

Poor slob, why do you hate lions, what did they ever do to you?

We went over this earlier in the thread. I'll paraphrase what I said earlier.

Yes, some eat other animals but that doesn't mean humans should. Some animals also eat their own caca and rape each other, does that means humans should do those things too? Animals are not our moral compass. But if you're going to model the behavior of animals, why be a predator? There are tons of peaceful herbivorous animals, why not use them as your role model?

We have a greater ability to reason, to make wise choices, to have compassionate, etc. So because we are "above" the animals in that sense, that is all the more reason for us to NOT act like barbaric, bloodthirsty predators.

I know you won't agree with this, because I'm pretty sure you're not a Christian? (correct me if I'm wrong) but the reason why some animals eat each other and there is so much violence in this world is because this is a fallen world, it is nothing like the way it was originally, and it's nothing like the way God intended it to be. The way God intended it to be is clear in the pre-fall world and in the new earth and heaven. Peace and harmony. No cruelty, exploitation, abuse and needless killing.

Humans are animals, they have the same rights to live and eat as any other animal. Go climb a tree no one takes you seriously

Yes, and that bloodthirsty, predatory, selfish mindset that humans have is at the root of all that is wrong with this world.

It won't be that way forever though. But I don't at all expect you to believe that, since you made it pretty clear you're not a Christian.

LOL do you seriously expect my dogs to start eating grass?

You are a moron

Life ignores your hate

Thanks for confirming what I said.

And talk about projection. The only hate is coming from you, have you read your own posts? ("you're a moron" "poor slob" "nobody takes you seriously" etc)

But no worries, I'm used to getting hate on this topic from folks like you.

You are pushing hate as you expect all carnivores to just die.

That's moronic

Should these baby bears starve because you are projecting hate

 

[buttercup]

What We Owe a Rabbit | Thomas Nagel

Christine Korsgaard is a distinguished philosopher who has taught at Harvard for most of her career. Though not known to the general public, she is eminent within the field for her penetrating and analytically dense writings on ethical theory and her critical interpretations of the works of...

getpocket.com

The idea that we must stop eating meat is basically unscientific and foolish. We are Omnivores and depend on meat for many of our essential ingredients to survive, vegans and vegetarians must take special care and must do specific things to make up for the lose of meat in their diet. I agree we should not abuse animals but yes we should eat meat and that means harvesting animals. I also agree that we should use them in scientific processes for OUR benefit.

The claim it is morally wrong to kill animals is foolish short sighted and I believe IGNORANT. Every animal that is a meat eater KILLS other animals. And failure to control population would result in massive deaths due to starvation of animals and ruination of Human crops.

Vegetarians are vegetable killers anyway, they just refuse to see the truth

Yeah, because a carrot is just like a pig who is as smart or SMARTER than your dog, and has the cognitive abilities of a 3 year old child.

But I'm pretty sure you were joking and not using that as an argument.

Should all wolves bears and lions be trained to eat leaves?

I was fully serious, you are clueless

You really are equating a vegetable with a thinking, feeling animal that has the cognitive abilities of a 3 year old child? Seriously?

You really see no difference between cutting into a head of lettuce and cutting into a sentient animal who is screaming for his life?

Come on, I thought you were smarter than that, I hope I didn't give you too much credit.

Do impalas think and feel when a lion ambushes them? Do you want all lions killed because they kill?

Poor slob, why do you hate lions, what did they ever do to you?

We went over this earlier in the thread. I'll paraphrase what I said earlier.

Yes, some eat other animals but that doesn't mean humans should. Some animals also eat their own caca and rape each other, does that means humans should do those things too? Animals are not our moral compass. But if you're going to model the behavior of animals, why be a predator? There are tons of peaceful herbivorous animals, why not use them as your role model?

We have a greater ability to reason, to make wise choices, to have compassionate, etc. So because we are "above" the animals in that sense, that is all the more reason for us to NOT act like barbaric, bloodthirsty predators.

I know you won't agree with this, because I'm pretty sure you're not a Christian? (correct me if I'm wrong) but the reason why some animals eat each other and there is so much violence in this world is because this is a fallen world, it is nothing like the way it was originally, and it's nothing like the way God intended it to be. The way God intended it to be is clear in the pre-fall world and in the new earth and heaven. Peace and harmony. No cruelty, exploitation, abuse and needless killing.

Humans are animals, they have the same rights to live and eat as any other animal. Go climb a tree no one takes you seriously

Yes, and that bloodthirsty, predatory, selfish mindset that humans have is at the root of all that is wrong with this world.

It won't be that way forever though. But I don't at all expect you to believe that, since you made it pretty clear you're not a Christian.

LOL do you seriously expect my dogs to start eating grass?

You are a moron

Life ignores your hate

Thanks for confirming what I said.

And talk about projection. The only hate is coming from you, have you read your own posts? ("you're a moron" "poor slob" "nobody takes you seriously" etc)

But no worries, I'm used to getting hate on this topic from folks like you.

You are pushing hate as you expect all carnivores to just die.

That's moronic

Should these baby bears starve because you are projecting hate

No, I've been talking specifically about HUMANS. You are the one focusing only on non-human animals. Nice try though!

 

[esalla]

What We Owe a Rabbit | Thomas Nagel

Christine Korsgaard is a distinguished philosopher who has taught at Harvard for most of her career. Though not known to the general public, she is eminent within the field for her penetrating and analytically dense writings on ethical theory and her critical interpretations of the works of...

getpocket.com

The idea that we must stop eating meat is basically unscientific and foolish. We are Omnivores and depend on meat for many of our essential ingredients to survive, vegans and vegetarians must take special care and must do specific things to make up for the lose of meat in their diet. I agree we should not abuse animals but yes we should eat meat and that means harvesting animals. I also agree that we should use them in scientific processes for OUR benefit.

The claim it is morally wrong to kill animals is foolish short sighted and I believe IGNORANT. Every animal that is a meat eater KILLS other animals. And failure to control population would result in massive deaths due to starvation of animals and ruination of Human crops.

Vegetarians are vegetable killers anyway, they just refuse to see the truth

Yeah, because a carrot is just like a pig who is as smart or SMARTER than your dog, and has the cognitive abilities of a 3 year old child.

But I'm pretty sure you were joking and not using that as an argument.

Should all wolves bears and lions be trained to eat leaves?

I was fully serious, you are clueless

You really are equating a vegetable with a thinking, feeling animal that has the cognitive abilities of a 3 year old child? Seriously?

You really see no difference between cutting into a head of lettuce and cutting into a sentient animal who is screaming for his life?

Come on, I thought you were smarter than that, I hope I didn't give you too much credit.

Do impalas think and feel when a lion ambushes them? Do you want all lions killed because they kill?

Poor slob, why do you hate lions, what did they ever do to you?

We went over this earlier in the thread. I'll paraphrase what I said earlier.

Yes, some eat other animals but that doesn't mean humans should. Some animals also eat their own caca and rape each other, does that means humans should do those things too? Animals are not our moral compass. But if you're going to model the behavior of animals, why be a predator? There are tons of peaceful herbivorous animals, why not use them as your role model?

We have a greater ability to reason, to make wise choices, to have compassionate, etc. So because we are "above" the animals in that sense, that is all the more reason for us to NOT act like barbaric, bloodthirsty predators.

I know you won't agree with this, because I'm pretty sure you're not a Christian? (correct me if I'm wrong) but the reason why some animals eat each other and there is so much violence in this world is because this is a fallen world, it is nothing like the way it was originally, and it's nothing like the way God intended it to be. The way God intended it to be is clear in the pre-fall world and in the new earth and heaven. Peace and harmony. No cruelty, exploitation, abuse and needless killing.

Humans are animals, they have the same rights to live and eat as any other animal. Go climb a tree no one takes you seriously

Yes, and that bloodthirsty, predatory, selfish mindset that humans have is at the root of all that is wrong with this world.

It won't be that way forever though. But I don't at all expect you to believe that, since you made it pretty clear you're not a Christian.

LOL do you seriously expect my dogs to start eating grass?

You are a moron

Life ignores your hate

Thanks for confirming what I said.

And talk about projection. The only hate is coming from you, have you read your own posts? ("you're a moron" "poor slob" "nobody takes you seriously" etc)

But no worries, I'm used to getting hate on this topic from folks like you.

You are pushing hate as you expect all carnivores to just die.

That's moronic

Should these baby bears starve because you are projecting hate

No, I've been talking specifically about HUMANS. You are the one focusing only on non-human animals. Nice try though!

Again humans ARE ANIMALS

Google it doofus

 

[buttercup]

What We Owe a Rabbit | Thomas Nagel

Christine Korsgaard is a distinguished philosopher who has taught at Harvard for most of her career. Though not known to the general public, she is eminent within the field for her penetrating and analytically dense writings on ethical theory and her critical interpretations of the works of...

getpocket.com

The idea that we must stop eating meat is basically unscientific and foolish. We are Omnivores and depend on meat for many of our essential ingredients to survive, vegans and vegetarians must take special care and must do specific things to make up for the lose of meat in their diet. I agree we should not abuse animals but yes we should eat meat and that means harvesting animals. I also agree that we should use them in scientific processes for OUR benefit.

The claim it is morally wrong to kill animals is foolish short sighted and I believe IGNORANT. Every animal that is a meat eater KILLS other animals. And failure to control population would result in massive deaths due to starvation of animals and ruination of Human crops.

Vegetarians are vegetable killers anyway, they just refuse to see the truth

Yeah, because a carrot is just like a pig who is as smart or SMARTER than your dog, and has the cognitive abilities of a 3 year old child.

But I'm pretty sure you were joking and not using that as an argument.

Should all wolves bears and lions be trained to eat leaves?

I was fully serious, you are clueless

You really are equating a vegetable with a thinking, feeling animal that has the cognitive abilities of a 3 year old child? Seriously?

You really see no difference between cutting into a head of lettuce and cutting into a sentient animal who is screaming for his life?

Come on, I thought you were smarter than that, I hope I didn't give you too much credit.

Do impalas think and feel when a lion ambushes them? Do you want all lions killed because they kill?

Poor slob, why do you hate lions, what did they ever do to you?

We went over this earlier in the thread. I'll paraphrase what I said earlier.

Yes, some eat other animals but that doesn't mean humans should. Some animals also eat their own caca and rape each other, does that means humans should do those things too? Animals are not our moral compass. But if you're going to model the behavior of animals, why be a predator? There are tons of peaceful herbivorous animals, why not use them as your role model?

We have a greater ability to reason, to make wise choices, to have compassionate, etc. So because we are "above" the animals in that sense, that is all the more reason for us to NOT act like barbaric, bloodthirsty predators.

I know you won't agree with this, because I'm pretty sure you're not a Christian? (correct me if I'm wrong) but the reason why some animals eat each other and there is so much violence in this world is because this is a fallen world, it is nothing like the way it was originally, and it's nothing like the way God intended it to be. The way God intended it to be is clear in the pre-fall world and in the new earth and heaven. Peace and harmony. No cruelty, exploitation, abuse and needless killing.

Humans are animals, they have the same rights to live and eat as any other animal. Go climb a tree no one takes you seriously

Yes, and that bloodthirsty, predatory, selfish mindset that humans have is at the root of all that is wrong with this world.

It won't be that way forever though. But I don't at all expect you to believe that, since you made it pretty clear you're not a Christian.

LOL do you seriously expect my dogs to start eating grass?

You are a moron

Life ignores your hate

Thanks for confirming what I said.

And talk about projection. The only hate is coming from you, have you read your own posts? ("you're a moron" "poor slob" "nobody takes you seriously" etc)

But no worries, I'm used to getting hate on this topic from folks like you.

You are pushing hate as you expect all carnivores to just die.

That's moronic

Should these baby bears starve because you are projecting hate

No, I've been talking specifically about HUMANS. You are the one focusing only on non-human animals. Nice try though!

Again mental humans ARE ANIMALS

Google it doofus

Your reading comprehension is not so good. I never claimed that humans are not animals. I never stated my thought on that either way.

But as I already said twice, we have more ability to reason, to make wise decisions, we are more advanced than non-human animals. Are you going to deny that?

You said I wanted carnivores to die, and then you kept posting pictures of bears, lions, etc, and I keep telling you that I am specifically talking about HUMAN BEINGS.

We are not carnivores. We don't need to eat meat to survive. You have been brainwashed from birth to believe we do, but we do not.

Now, can you make an argument that doesn't involve equating us with lions and bears?

 

[westwall]

What We Owe a Rabbit | Thomas Nagel

Christine Korsgaard is a distinguished philosopher who has taught at Harvard for most of her career. Though not known to the general public, she is eminent within the field for her penetrating and analytically dense writings on ethical theory and her critical interpretations of the works of...

getpocket.com

The idea that we must stop eating meat is basically unscientific and foolish. We are Omnivores and depend on meat for many of our essential ingredients to survive, vegans and vegetarians must take special care and must do specific things to make up for the lose of meat in their diet. I agree we should not abuse animals but yes we should eat meat and that means harvesting animals. I also agree that we should use them in scientific processes for OUR benefit.

The claim it is morally wrong to kill animals is foolish short sighted and I believe IGNORANT. Every animal that is a meat eater KILLS other animals. And failure to control population would result in massive deaths due to starvation of animals and ruination of Human crops.

Vegetarians are vegetable killers anyway, they just refuse to see the truth

Yeah, because a carrot is just like a pig who is as smart or SMARTER than your dog, and has the cognitive abilities of a 3 year old child.

But I'm pretty sure you were joking and not using that as an argument.

Pigs can speak, do math, and talk! Wow. Let's hear them!

 

[esalla]

What We Owe a Rabbit | Thomas Nagel

Christine Korsgaard is a distinguished philosopher who has taught at Harvard for most of her career. Though not known to the general public, she is eminent within the field for her penetrating and analytically dense writings on ethical theory and her critical interpretations of the works of...

getpocket.com

The idea that we must stop eating meat is basically unscientific and foolish. We are Omnivores and depend on meat for many of our essential ingredients to survive, vegans and vegetarians must take special care and must do specific things to make up for the lose of meat in their diet. I agree we should not abuse animals but yes we should eat meat and that means harvesting animals. I also agree that we should use them in scientific processes for OUR benefit.

The claim it is morally wrong to kill animals is foolish short sighted and I believe IGNORANT. Every animal that is a meat eater KILLS other animals. And failure to control population would result in massive deaths due to starvation of animals and ruination of Human crops.

Vegetarians are vegetable killers anyway, they just refuse to see the truth

Yeah, because a carrot is just like a pig who is as smart or SMARTER than your dog, and has the cognitive abilities of a 3 year old child.

But I'm pretty sure you were joking and not using that as an argument.

Should all wolves bears and lions be trained to eat leaves?

I was fully serious, you are clueless

You really are equating a vegetable with a thinking, feeling animal that has the cognitive abilities of a 3 year old child? Seriously?

You really see no difference between cutting into a head of lettuce and cutting into a sentient animal who is screaming for his life?

Come on, I thought you were smarter than that, I hope I didn't give you too much credit.

Do impalas think and feel when a lion ambushes them? Do you want all lions killed because they kill?

Poor slob, why do you hate lions, what did they ever do to you?

We went over this earlier in the thread. I'll paraphrase what I said earlier.

Yes, some eat other animals but that doesn't mean humans should. Some animals also eat their own caca and rape each other, does that means humans should do those things too? Animals are not our moral compass. But if you're going to model the behavior of animals, why be a predator? There are tons of peaceful herbivorous animals, why not use them as your role model?

We have a greater ability to reason, to make wise choices, to have compassionate, etc. So because we are "above" the animals in that sense, that is all the more reason for us to NOT act like barbaric, bloodthirsty predators.

I know you won't agree with this, because I'm pretty sure you're not a Christian? (correct me if I'm wrong) but the reason why some animals eat each other and there is so much violence in this world is because this is a fallen world, it is nothing like the way it was originally, and it's nothing like the way God intended it to be. The way God intended it to be is clear in the pre-fall world and in the new earth and heaven. Peace and harmony. No cruelty, exploitation, abuse and needless killing.

Humans are animals, they have the same rights to live and eat as any other animal. Go climb a tree no one takes you seriously

Yes, and that bloodthirsty, predatory, selfish mindset that humans have is at the root of all that is wrong with this world.

It won't be that way forever though. But I don't at all expect you to believe that, since you made it pretty clear you're not a Christian.

LOL do you seriously expect my dogs to start eating grass?

You are a moron

Life ignores your hate

Thanks for confirming what I said.

And talk about projection. The only hate is coming from you, have you read your own posts? ("you're a moron" "poor slob" "nobody takes you seriously" etc)

But no worries, I'm used to getting hate on this topic from folks like you.

You are pushing hate as you expect all carnivores to just die.

That's moronic

Should these baby bears starve because you are projecting hate

No, I've been talking specifically about HUMANS. You are the one focusing only on non-human animals. Nice try though!

Again mental humans ARE ANIMALS

Google it doofus

Your reading comprehension is not so good. I never claimed that humans are not animals. I never stated my thought on that either way.

But as I already said twice, we have more ability to reason, to make wise decisions, we are more advanced than non-human animals. Are you going to deny that?

You said I wanted carnivores to die, and then you kept posting pictures of bears, lions, etc, and I keep telling you that I am specifically talking about HUMAN BEINGS.

We are not carnivores. We don't need to eat meat to survive. You have been brainwashed from birth to believe we do, but we do not.

Now, can you make an argument that doesn't involve equating us with lions and bears?

Who do you think you are to decide what others can eat?

Humans and bears are omnivores and your babbling will not change this.

But you write another 10 paragraph babble as though anyone cares.

Yawn

 

[whitehall]

What's the point? Killing a rabbit can be wrong if it is tortured or dies of neglect or it is hunted out of season. On the other hand sometimes it's OK to kill a human in wartime, executions for capital crimes, deadly physical force to stop a murder and of course abortions.

 

[buttercup]

What We Owe a Rabbit | Thomas Nagel

Christine Korsgaard is a distinguished philosopher who has taught at Harvard for most of her career. Though not known to the general public, she is eminent within the field for her penetrating and analytically dense writings on ethical theory and her critical interpretations of the works of...

getpocket.com

The idea that we must stop eating meat is basically unscientific and foolish. We are Omnivores and depend on meat for many of our essential ingredients to survive, vegans and vegetarians must take special care and must do specific things to make up for the lose of meat in their diet. I agree we should not abuse animals but yes we should eat meat and that means harvesting animals. I also agree that we should use them in scientific processes for OUR benefit.

The claim it is morally wrong to kill animals is foolish short sighted and I believe IGNORANT. Every animal that is a meat eater KILLS other animals. And failure to control population would result in massive deaths due to starvation of animals and ruination of Human crops.

Vegetarians are vegetable killers anyway, they just refuse to see the truth

Yeah, because a carrot is just like a pig who is as smart or SMARTER than your dog, and has the cognitive abilities of a 3 year old child.

But I'm pretty sure you were joking and not using that as an argument.

Pigs can speak, do math, and talk! Wow. Let's hear them!

Pigs don't have to do any of those things, they are still sentient being who can think, feel, and they are just as smart or even smarter than your dog.

The point, which you either ignored or didn't grasp, was that they are not the same as a carrot, which does not have a brain or the ability to feel pain and suffer.

Don't tell me you're another one who is equating a vegetable with sentient, intelligent animals?

 

[buttercup]

What We Owe a Rabbit | Thomas Nagel

Christine Korsgaard is a distinguished philosopher who has taught at Harvard for most of her career. Though not known to the general public, she is eminent within the field for her penetrating and analytically dense writings on ethical theory and her critical interpretations of the works of...

getpocket.com

The idea that we must stop eating meat is basically unscientific and foolish. We are Omnivores and depend on meat for many of our essential ingredients to survive, vegans and vegetarians must take special care and must do specific things to make up for the lose of meat in their diet. I agree we should not abuse animals but yes we should eat meat and that means harvesting animals. I also agree that we should use them in scientific processes for OUR benefit.

The claim it is morally wrong to kill animals is foolish short sighted and I believe IGNORANT. Every animal that is a meat eater KILLS other animals. And failure to control population would result in massive deaths due to starvation of animals and ruination of Human crops.

Vegetarians are vegetable killers anyway, they just refuse to see the truth

Yeah, because a carrot is just like a pig who is as smart or SMARTER than your dog, and has the cognitive abilities of a 3 year old child.

But I'm pretty sure you were joking and not using that as an argument.

Should all wolves bears and lions be trained to eat leaves?

I was fully serious, you are clueless

You really are equating a vegetable with a thinking, feeling animal that has the cognitive abilities of a 3 year old child? Seriously?

You really see no difference between cutting into a head of lettuce and cutting into a sentient animal who is screaming for his life?

Come on, I thought you were smarter than that, I hope I didn't give you too much credit.

Do impalas think and feel when a lion ambushes them? Do you want all lions killed because they kill?

Poor slob, why do you hate lions, what did they ever do to you?

We went over this earlier in the thread. I'll paraphrase what I said earlier.

Yes, some eat other animals but that doesn't mean humans should. Some animals also eat their own caca and rape each other, does that means humans should do those things too? Animals are not our moral compass. But if you're going to model the behavior of animals, why be a predator? There are tons of peaceful herbivorous animals, why not use them as your role model?

We have a greater ability to reason, to make wise choices, to have compassionate, etc. So because we are "above" the animals in that sense, that is all the more reason for us to NOT act like barbaric, bloodthirsty predators.

I know you won't agree with this, because I'm pretty sure you're not a Christian? (correct me if I'm wrong) but the reason why some animals eat each other and there is so much violence in this world is because this is a fallen world, it is nothing like the way it was originally, and it's nothing like the way God intended it to be. The way God intended it to be is clear in the pre-fall world and in the new earth and heaven. Peace and harmony. No cruelty, exploitation, abuse and needless killing.

Humans are animals, they have the same rights to live and eat as any other animal. Go climb a tree no one takes you seriously

Yes, and that bloodthirsty, predatory, selfish mindset that humans have is at the root of all that is wrong with this world.

It won't be that way forever though. But I don't at all expect you to believe that, since you made it pretty clear you're not a Christian.

LOL do you seriously expect my dogs to start eating grass?

You are a moron

Life ignores your hate

Thanks for confirming what I said.

And talk about projection. The only hate is coming from you, have you read your own posts? ("you're a moron" "poor slob" "nobody takes you seriously" etc)

But no worries, I'm used to getting hate on this topic from folks like you.

You are pushing hate as you expect all carnivores to just die.

That's moronic

Should these baby bears starve because you are projecting hate

No, I've been talking specifically about HUMANS. You are the one focusing only on non-human animals. Nice try though!

Again mental humans ARE ANIMALS

Google it doofus

Your reading comprehension is not so good. I never claimed that humans are not animals. I never stated my thought on that either way.

But as I already said twice, we have more ability to reason, to make wise decisions, we are more advanced than non-human animals. Are you going to deny that?

You said I wanted carnivores to die, and then you kept posting pictures of bears, lions, etc, and I keep telling you that I am specifically talking about HUMAN BEINGS.

We are not carnivores. We don't need to eat meat to survive. You have been brainwashed from birth to believe we do, but we do not.

Now, can you make an argument that doesn't involve equating us with lions and bears?

Who do you think you are to decide what others can eat?

Humans and bears are omnivores and your babbling will not change this.

But you write another 10 paragraph babble as though anyone cares.

Yawn

I never said it was my decision. It is YOUR decision. I just want people to be informed. Which many clearly aren't.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

What We Owe a Rabbit | Thomas Nagel

Christine Korsgaard is a distinguished philosopher who has taught at Harvard for most of her career. Though not known to the general public, she is eminent within the field for her penetrating and analytically dense writings on ethical theory and her critical interpretations of the works of...

getpocket.com

The idea that we must stop eating meat is basically unscientific and foolish. We are Omnivores and depend on meat for many of our essential ingredients to survive, vegans and vegetarians must take special care and must do specific things to make up for the lose of meat in their diet. I agree we should not abuse animals but yes we should eat meat and that means harvesting animals. I also agree that we should use them in scientific processes for OUR benefit.

The claim it is morally wrong to kill animals is foolish short sighted and I believe IGNORANT. Every animal that is a meat eater KILLS other animals. And failure to control population would result in massive deaths due to starvation of animals and ruination of Human crops.

Vegetarians are vegetable killers anyway, they just refuse to see the truth

Yeah, because a carrot is just like a pig who is as smart or SMARTER than your dog, and has the cognitive abilities of a 3 year old child.

But I'm pretty sure you were joking and not using that as an argument.

Should all wolves bears and lions be trained to eat leaves?

I was fully serious, you are clueless

You really are equating a vegetable with a thinking, feeling animal that has the cognitive abilities of a 3 year old child? Seriously?

You really see no difference between cutting into a head of lettuce and cutting into a sentient animal who is screaming for his life?

Come on, I thought you were smarter than that, I hope I didn't give you too much credit.

Do impalas think and feel when a lion ambushes them? Do you want all lions killed because they kill?

Poor slob, why do you hate lions, what did they ever do to you?

We went over this earlier in the thread. I'll paraphrase what I said earlier.

Yes, some eat other animals but that doesn't mean humans should. Some animals also eat their own caca and rape each other, does that means humans should do those things too? Animals are not our moral compass. But if you're going to model the behavior of animals, why be a predator? There are tons of peaceful herbivorous animals, why not use them as your role model?

We have a greater ability to reason, to make wise choices, to have compassionate, etc. So because we are "above" the animals in that sense, that is all the more reason for us to NOT act like barbaric, bloodthirsty predators.

I know you won't agree with this, because I'm pretty sure you're not a Christian? (correct me if I'm wrong) but the reason why some animals eat each other and there is so much violence in this world is because this is a fallen world, it is nothing like the way it was originally, and it's nothing like the way God intended it to be. The way God intended it to be is clear in the pre-fall world and in the new earth and heaven. Peace and harmony. No cruelty, exploitation, abuse and needless killing.

Humans are animals, they have the same rights to live and eat as any other animal. Go climb a tree no one takes you seriously

Yes, and that bloodthirsty, predatory, selfish mindset that humans have is at the root of all that is wrong with this world.

It won't be that way forever though. But I don't at all expect you to believe that, since you made it pretty clear you're not a Christian.

LOL do you seriously expect my dogs to start eating grass?

You are a moron

Life ignores your hate

Thanks for confirming what I said.

And talk about projection. The only hate is coming from you, have you read your own posts? ("you're a moron" "poor slob" "nobody takes you seriously" etc)

But no worries, I'm used to getting hate on this topic from folks like you.

You are pushing hate as you expect all carnivores to just die.

That's moronic

Should these baby bears starve because you are projecting hate

No, I've been talking specifically about HUMANS. You are the one focusing only on non-human animals. Nice try though!

Again mental humans ARE ANIMALS

Google it doofus

Your reading comprehension is not so good. I never claimed that humans are not animals. I never stated my thought on that either way.

But as I already said twice, we have more ability to reason, to make wise decisions, we are more advanced than non-human animals. Are you going to deny that?

You said I wanted carnivores to die, and then you kept posting pictures of bears, lions, etc, and I keep telling you that I am specifically talking about HUMAN BEINGS.

We are not carnivores. We don't need to eat meat to survive. You have been brainwashed from birth to believe we do, but we do not.

Now, can you make an argument that doesn't involve equating us with lions and bears?

We are Omnivores. Why have the teeth we have if not to eat meat? Why have to make special arrangements when you don't consume meat to survive?

 

[RetiredGySgt]

What We Owe a Rabbit | Thomas Nagel

Christine Korsgaard is a distinguished philosopher who has taught at Harvard for most of her career. Though not known to the general public, she is eminent within the field for her penetrating and analytically dense writings on ethical theory and her critical interpretations of the works of...

getpocket.com

The idea that we must stop eating meat is basically unscientific and foolish. We are Omnivores and depend on meat for many of our essential ingredients to survive, vegans and vegetarians must take special care and must do specific things to make up for the lose of meat in their diet. I agree we should not abuse animals but yes we should eat meat and that means harvesting animals. I also agree that we should use them in scientific processes for OUR benefit.

The claim it is morally wrong to kill animals is foolish short sighted and I believe IGNORANT. Every animal that is a meat eater KILLS other animals. And failure to control population would result in massive deaths due to starvation of animals and ruination of Human crops.

Vegetarians are vegetable killers anyway, they just refuse to see the truth

Yeah, because a carrot is just like a pig who is as smart or SMARTER than your dog, and has the cognitive abilities of a 3 year old child.

But I'm pretty sure you were joking and not using that as an argument.

Pigs can speak, do math, and talk! Wow. Let's hear them!

Pigs don't have to do any of those things, they are still sentient being who can think, feel, and they are just as smart or even smarter than your dog.

The point, which you either ignored or didn't grasp, was that they are not the same as a carrot, which does not have a brain or the ability to feel pain and suffer.

Don't tell me you're another one who is equating a vegetable with sentient, intelligent animals?

So you know for a fact plants don't feel?

 

[esalla]

What We Owe a Rabbit | Thomas Nagel

Christine Korsgaard is a distinguished philosopher who has taught at Harvard for most of her career. Though not known to the general public, she is eminent within the field for her penetrating and analytically dense writings on ethical theory and her critical interpretations of the works of...

getpocket.com

The idea that we must stop eating meat is basically unscientific and foolish. We are Omnivores and depend on meat for many of our essential ingredients to survive, vegans and vegetarians must take special care and must do specific things to make up for the lose of meat in their diet. I agree we should not abuse animals but yes we should eat meat and that means harvesting animals. I also agree that we should use them in scientific processes for OUR benefit.

The claim it is morally wrong to kill animals is foolish short sighted and I believe IGNORANT. Every animal that is a meat eater KILLS other animals. And failure to control population would result in massive deaths due to starvation of animals and ruination of Human crops.

Vegetarians are vegetable killers anyway, they just refuse to see the truth

Yeah, because a carrot is just like a pig who is as smart or SMARTER than your dog, and has the cognitive abilities of a 3 year old child.

But I'm pretty sure you were joking and not using that as an argument.

Should all wolves bears and lions be trained to eat leaves?

I was fully serious, you are clueless

You really are equating a vegetable with a thinking, feeling animal that has the cognitive abilities of a 3 year old child? Seriously?

You really see no difference between cutting into a head of lettuce and cutting into a sentient animal who is screaming for his life?

Come on, I thought you were smarter than that, I hope I didn't give you too much credit.

Do impalas think and feel when a lion ambushes them? Do you want all lions killed because they kill?

Poor slob, why do you hate lions, what did they ever do to you?

We went over this earlier in the thread. I'll paraphrase what I said earlier.

Yes, some eat other animals but that doesn't mean humans should. Some animals also eat their own caca and rape each other, does that means humans should do those things too? Animals are not our moral compass. But if you're going to model the behavior of animals, why be a predator? There are tons of peaceful herbivorous animals, why not use them as your role model?

We have a greater ability to reason, to make wise choices, to have compassionate, etc. So because we are "above" the animals in that sense, that is all the more reason for us to NOT act like barbaric, bloodthirsty predators.

I know you won't agree with this, because I'm pretty sure you're not a Christian? (correct me if I'm wrong) but the reason why some animals eat each other and there is so much violence in this world is because this is a fallen world, it is nothing like the way it was originally, and it's nothing like the way God intended it to be. The way God intended it to be is clear in the pre-fall world and in the new earth and heaven. Peace and harmony. No cruelty, exploitation, abuse and needless killing.

Humans are animals, they have the same rights to live and eat as any other animal. Go climb a tree no one takes you seriously

Yes, and that bloodthirsty, predatory, selfish mindset that humans have is at the root of all that is wrong with this world.

It won't be that way forever though. But I don't at all expect you to believe that, since you made it pretty clear you're not a Christian.

LOL do you seriously expect my dogs to start eating grass?

You are a moron

Life ignores your hate

Thanks for confirming what I said.

And talk about projection. The only hate is coming from you, have you read your own posts? ("you're a moron" "poor slob" "nobody takes you seriously" etc)

But no worries, I'm used to getting hate on this topic from folks like you.

You are pushing hate as you expect all carnivores to just die.

That's moronic

Should these baby bears starve because you are projecting hate

No, I've been talking specifically about HUMANS. You are the one focusing only on non-human animals. Nice try though!

Again mental humans ARE ANIMALS

Google it doofus

Your reading comprehension is not so good. I never claimed that humans are not animals. I never stated my thought on that either way.

But as I already said twice, we have more ability to reason, to make wise decisions, we are more advanced than non-human animals. Are you going to deny that?

You said I wanted carnivores to die, and then you kept posting pictures of bears, lions, etc, and I keep telling you that I am specifically talking about HUMAN BEINGS.

We are not carnivores. We don't need to eat meat to survive. You have been brainwashed from birth to believe we do, but we do not.

Now, can you make an argument that doesn't involve equating us with lions and bears?

Who do you think you are to decide what others can eat?

Humans and bears are omnivores and your babbling will not change this.

But you write another 10 paragraph babble as though anyone cares.

Yawn

I never said it was my decision. It is YOUR decision. I just want people to be informed. Which many clearly aren't.

Look kid, grow up, you voiced your opinion that you want to eat like a cow and not eat the cow itself. That is your opinion and you voiced it. No one is being influenced by your hate and if morons like you win all carnivores will be hunted to extinction because you want to regress back into a tree dweller

 

[buttercup]

What We Owe a Rabbit | Thomas Nagel

Christine Korsgaard is a distinguished philosopher who has taught at Harvard for most of her career. Though not known to the general public, she is eminent within the field for her penetrating and analytically dense writings on ethical theory and her critical interpretations of the works of...

getpocket.com

The idea that we must stop eating meat is basically unscientific and foolish. We are Omnivores and depend on meat for many of our essential ingredients to survive, vegans and vegetarians must take special care and must do specific things to make up for the lose of meat in their diet. I agree we should not abuse animals but yes we should eat meat and that means harvesting animals. I also agree that we should use them in scientific processes for OUR benefit.

The claim it is morally wrong to kill animals is foolish short sighted and I believe IGNORANT. Every animal that is a meat eater KILLS other animals. And failure to control population would result in massive deaths due to starvation of animals and ruination of Human crops.

Vegetarians are vegetable killers anyway, they just refuse to see the truth

Yeah, because a carrot is just like a pig who is as smart or SMARTER than your dog, and has the cognitive abilities of a 3 year old child.

But I'm pretty sure you were joking and not using that as an argument.

Pigs can speak, do math, and talk! Wow. Let's hear them!

Pigs don't have to do any of those things, they are still sentient being who can think, feel, and they are just as smart or even smarter than your dog.

The point, which you either ignored or didn't grasp, was that they are not the same as a carrot, which does not have a brain or the ability to feel pain and suffer.

Don't tell me you're another one who is equating a vegetable with sentient, intelligent animals?

So you know for a fact plants don't feel?

Plants don't have a brain or a central nervous system. But we are not talking about a house plant. We are talking about plant-based FOOD that God created for us to eat. God created foods like fruits, veggies, nuts, seeds, grains, legumes, etc. for the specific purpose of being food.

So do you really think a good God would create an apple or banana that is designed to be food with the ability to feel pain? Yes or no?