buttercup
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LOL and YET god made every animal UNDER man. And I am sorry but we were never intended to be herbivores, Not God and NOT science support that claim, that is delusional comments from a person trying to force their views on others. Meat eaters do not try and force vegans to eat meat why is it vegans try to force meat eaters to do as they want again?Do impalas think and feel when a lion ambushes them? Do you want all lions killed because they kill?Should all wolves bears and lions be trained to eat leaves?Vegetarians are vegetable killers anyway, they just refuse to see the truthWhat We Owe a Rabbit | Thomas Nagel
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The idea that we must stop eating meat is basically unscientific and foolish. We are Omnivores and depend on meat for many of our essential ingredients to survive, vegans and vegetarians must take special care and must do specific things to make up for the lose of meat in their diet. I agree we should not abuse animals but yes we should eat meat and that means harvesting animals. I also agree that we should use them in scientific processes for OUR benefit.
The claim it is morally wrong to kill animals is foolish short sighted and I believe IGNORANT. Every animal that is a meat eater KILLS other animals. And failure to control population would result in massive deaths due to starvation of animals and ruination of Human crops.
Yeah, because a carrot is just like a pig who is as smart or SMARTER than your dog, and has the cognitive abilities of a 3 year old child.
But I'm pretty sure you were joking and not using that as an argument.
I was fully serious, you are clueless
You really are equating a vegetable with a thinking, feeling animal that has the cognitive abilities of a 3 year old child? Seriously?
You really see no difference between cutting into a head of lettuce and cutting into a sentient animal who is screaming for his life?
Come on, I thought you were smarter than that, I hope I didn't give you too much credit.
Poor slob, why do you hate lions, what did they ever do to you?
We went over this earlier in the thread. I'll paraphrase what I said earlier.
Yes, some eat other animals but that doesn't mean humans should. Some animals also eat their own caca and rape each other, does that means humans should do those things too? Animals are not our moral compass. But if you're going to model the behavior of animals, why be a predator? There are tons of peaceful herbivorous animals, why not use them as your role model?
We have a greater ability to reason, to make wise choices, to have compassionate, etc. So because we are "above" the animals in that sense, that is all the more reason for us to NOT act like barbaric, bloodthirsty predators.
I know you won't agree with this, because I'm pretty sure you're not a Christian? (correct me if I'm wrong) but the reason why some animals eat each other and there is so much violence in this world is because this is a fallen world, it is nothing like the way it was originally, and it's nothing like the way God intended it to be. The way God intended it to be is clear in the pre-fall world and in the new earth and heaven. Peace and harmony. No cruelty, exploitation, abuse and needless killing.
Read Genesis 1:29-30 to see in black and white what God's intent was when He created us and the animals.
Also, read the blog post I linked to, I go over this very topic.
A Closer Look At Dominion - Live Mercifully
As a Christian vegan, one of the most common objections to veganism that I encounter when talking to other Christians is, “But man was given dominion over the animals.” So I want to talk about this very important concept that I believe has been deeply misunderstood. This misunderstanding is at...
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