And Will They Ever Stop Saying,"Yah,But Hillary Got More Votes!!".? No One Cares Anymore !

[AnCap'n_Murica]

 

[Foxfyre]

It's been two weeks now, and the loonies are still being crybabies on cable news shows, still bringing up the fact that Hillary got more votes, therefore Trump shouldn't be President. Yet, these blockhead commentators also know that up to 4 Million of the votes came from illegals from the whole west coast/chicago and the northeast.

Did these rats also take notice that Trump had the most votes coming in until the end of the night when Finally the west coast states started calling in their totals? This happened with Al Gore too! Bush was ahead,{although by a small margin}, then later California called in their votes,super-seeding the Bush votes, and finally Bush won Florida sending Al Gore off to the North Pole looking for bears living on sheets of ice.

Take the massive populations of New York and California out of the equation, and Trump wins the popular vote by a landslide. Should we be doomed to forever allow California and New York determine the outcome of every Presidential election?

Further, I was just reading that Michigan did recount and all 3,000 additional votes they found went to Hillary--what are the odds of that really being the case in so close an election? Nevertheless, Trump still won Michigan.

And nobody, and I mean NOBODY has asked for a recount in any state that Hillary won by a narrow margin.

All this bru ha ha about demanding recounts or overturning the election via a corruption of the electoral college, etc. just makes intellectually honest people walk away muttering.

 

[easyt65]

It's 'Florida 2.0'

The loss in Fl f*ed libs up for years...now the only thing that has helped then begin to get over Fl is '2016', which is nothing but 'Florida 2.0'.

Bottom Line: Snowflakes don't handle REJECTION / LOSING well.

 

[Campbell]

Are you stupid?

Clinton's lead in the popular vote surpasses 2 million

A half-dozen electors, those who will formally cast votes for Trump and Clinton on Dec. 19, are pushing to block Trump from winning a majority of votes.

Are you stupid?

The EC does not vote for the popular vote of the entire country, they vote to represent the voters of their state.

I'm 82 years old. I studied high school civics in 1951. I was against the electoral college then. It's one of the most antiquated things our government does. It is to the 21st century a hangover of idiocy. The forebears weren't perfect. They owned slaves and the only guns they were familiar with were single shot cannons and muskets. Thomas Jefferson believed the constitution should be updated to match the times every twenty years. We've amended it dozens of times but some of it is a crock of shit. The electoral college falls into that category. When more people believe Hillary should be the president by god she should be the president.

See....I don't believe crazy people should carry guns but America does it anyway:

Gun Violence Archive

 

[Cecilie1200]

It's been two weeks now, and the loonies are still being crybabies on cable news shows, still bringing up the fact that Hillary got more votes, therefore Trump shouldn't be President. Yet, these blockhead commentators also know that up to 4 Million of the votes came from illegals from the whole west coast/chicago and the northeast.

Did these rats also take notice that Trump had the most votes coming in until the end of the night when Finally the west coast states started calling in their totals? This happened with Al Gore too! Bush was ahead,{although by a small margin}, then later California called in their votes,super-seeding the Bush votes, and finally Bush won Florida sending Al Gore off to the North Pole looking for bears living on sheets of ice.

She didn't just get more votes. Over a million and a half more people wanted her to be the president than voted for Rump!

Too bad they all congregated in the same handful of big cities and contributed their votes to the exact same group of electors, huh?

 

[Cecilie1200]

Hillary got over a million more popular votes than Trump?

It's a damn shame she can't convert them to Electoral Votes, isn't it?


Here's a clue

even if she get 10 million, 50 million, more Popular votes, she still doesn't win the WH

We get it!!

We also understand that more people in the country wanted her to be the president of the United States.......Got It?

But do you understand that no one gives a rat's furry ass about your whining?

 

[jon_berzerk]

It's been two weeks now, and the loonies are still being crybabies on cable news shows, still bringing up the fact that Hillary got more votes, therefore Trump shouldn't be President. Yet, these blockhead commentators also know that up to 4 Million of the votes came from illegals from the whole west coast/chicago and the northeast.

Did these rats also take notice that Trump had the most votes coming in until the end of the night when Finally the west coast states started calling in their totals? This happened with Al Gore too! Bush was ahead,{although by a small margin}, then later California called in their votes,super-seeding the Bush votes, and finally Bush won Florida sending Al Gore off to the North Pole looking for bears living on sheets of ice.

She didn't just get more votes. Over a million and a half more people wanted her to be the president than voted for Rump!

Too bad they all congregated in the same handful of big cities and contributed their votes to the exact same group of electors, huh?

--LOL

 

[Cecilie1200]

It's been two weeks now, and the loonies are still being crybabies on cable news shows, still bringing up the fact that Hillary got more votes, therefore Trump shouldn't be President. Yet, these blockhead commentators also know that up to 4 Million of the votes came from illegals from the whole west coast/chicago and the northeast.

Did these rats also take notice that Trump had the most votes coming in until the end of the night when Finally the west coast states started calling in their totals? This happened with Al Gore too! Bush was ahead,{although by a small margin}, then later California called in their votes,super-seeding the Bush votes, and finally Bush won Florida sending Al Gore off to the North Pole looking for bears living on sheets of ice.

Y'know, the only time I've seen references to Hillary getting more votes is in response to Republicans crowing about how 'the people have spoken'. It is irresistible to not point out that about 1.5 million more of them spoke for Hillary than Trump. It is a reminder that you do not have a mandate. Also, nobody believes the 4 million illegal votes either. p.s. Is that a symbol of you head banging a brick wall?

Exactly....that goddam Fox News was calling it a mandate!

The electoral college was established to fulfill a need. During the late 1700's, early 1800's people had to ride a mule or the rich ones travel by buggy just to cast a vote. It was to accommodate the activity of everyone voting. It should be done away with and whoever gets the most votes should gain the office. Don't you remember? Daniel Boone killed a bar.

It IS a mandate. The only mandate that matters: he won.

The EC isn't about "accommodating the activity of everyone voting". It's about exactly what it did in this election: preventing a bunch of assholes in a handful of cities from tyrannizing the rest of the country.

Oh, and preserving the sovereignty of the state from central government dipshits like you.

 

[jon_berzerk]

yup

now is the time to repeal the 17th amendment

 

[Cecilie1200]

It's been two weeks now, and the loonies are still being crybabies on cable news shows, still bringing up the fact that Hillary got more votes, therefore Trump shouldn't be President. Yet, these blockhead commentators also know that up to 4 Million of the votes came from illegals from the whole west coast/chicago and the northeast.

Did these rats also take notice that Trump had the most votes coming in until the end of the night when Finally the west coast states started calling in their totals? This happened with Al Gore too! Bush was ahead,{although by a small margin}, then later California called in their votes,super-seeding the Bush votes, and finally Bush won Florida sending Al Gore off to the North Pole looking for bears living on sheets of ice.

This whole claim that she "got more votes" is a complete failure of logic anyways. If the hypothesis is that "More folks voted Hillary" --- that's actually blatantly FALSE. Because anyone saying that is disenfranchising the large 4.2% of the vote that went to Stein and Johnson. Remember them? They got votes also. And THOSE votes were on principles and AGAINST the 2 major power whores.

So Hilliary got 48% of the vote and 52% of the people VOTED AGAINST HER...

(FCT certified Fact-Checked estimate)

In the future, the brand name candidates will be getting less and less of the total. It's a definite trend. So soon, you partisans will be arguing about "consensus" and "plurality" when your candidates have 60% or 70% of America voting against them.

Now -- if you're really desperate and butt-hurt --- You could have a NEW hypothesis to test. Which is "In a 2 way race between JUST Clinton and Trump -- Clinton won" .. Problem with that hypothesis is -- we did NOT HAVE a 2 way race. So you'd have to analyze and see how that the 4.2% WOULD have voted in a 2 way race. Not likely to be convincing. Since her current 0.7% "margin" over Trump COULD BE because Trump suffered 0.7% more by the presence of OTHER CHOICES on the ballot. And my educated guess is that MOST of that 4.2% that the Dems don't want to recognize ---- just would have stayed home. But there's enough votes in that bundle to AFFECT the pop vote outcome. EVEN WITH --- illegals voting in Cali. Or any of the other "excuses".

She didn't "WIN" the popular vote. More folks voted AGAINST HER then FOR HER... By far...

Math is hard!

Why do I keep hearing that the actual Hillary vote count has just surpassed 2 million more than Trump? As a Hillary voter, I do not believe she should contest the election, but I do get a little tired of the defense of the electoral college and it's 'fairness'. Because at this point you have the most populous areas tyrannized by the least populous, and what's so great about Kansas anyway. Are these States somehow wiser and more compassionate? However, my thought, for what it's worth, is that this must be settled BEFORE an election, not in retrospect. The sun has set on the Clinton day.

It is a tad ironic that Trump is now waffling on the 'conflict of interest' part though. Assuming the mantle of the very foundation of his assertion of why Hillary is so 'crooked' is the (unproven therefore un-indictable) opportunity to take personal advantage of position to further personal gain. Wanna bet it will become the new norm within the Republican party?

Only left-think could describe being forced to listen to and work with other people as "tyranny".

 

[Cecilie1200]

It's been two weeks now, and the loonies are still being crybabies on cable news shows, still bringing up the fact that Hillary got more votes, therefore Trump shouldn't be President. Yet, these blockhead commentators also know that up to 4 Million of the votes came from illegals from the whole west coast/chicago and the northeast.

Did these rats also take notice that Trump had the most votes coming in until the end of the night when Finally the west coast states started calling in their totals? This happened with Al Gore too! Bush was ahead,{although by a small margin}, then later California called in their votes,super-seeding the Bush votes, and finally Bush won Florida sending Al Gore off to the North Pole looking for bears living on sheets of ice.

It's like a mental illness. "Your guy has crabs, but we only got sif". That kind of stupid.

For the record, it's spelled "syph". As in "syphilis".

It's very hard to take someone seriously when they can't effectively use their own mother tongue.

 

[Cecilie1200]

It's been two weeks now, and the loonies are still being crybabies on cable news shows, still bringing up the fact that Hillary got more votes, therefore Trump shouldn't be President. Yet, these blockhead commentators also know that up to 4 Million of the votes came from illegals from the whole west coast/chicago and the northeast.

Did these rats also take notice that Trump had the most votes coming in until the end of the night when Finally the west coast states started calling in their totals? This happened with Al Gore too! Bush was ahead,{although by a small margin}, then later California called in their votes,super-seeding the Bush votes, and finally Bush won Florida sending Al Gore off to the North Pole looking for bears living on sheets of ice.

This whole claim that she "got more votes" is a complete failure of logic anyways. If the hypothesis is that "More folks voted Hillary" --- that's actually blatantly FALSE. Because anyone saying that is disenfranchising the large 4.2% of the vote that went to Stein and Johnson. Remember them? They got votes also. And THOSE votes were on principles and AGAINST the 2 major power whores.

So Hilliary got 48% of the vote and 52% of the people VOTED AGAINST HER...

(FCT certified Fact-Checked estimate)

In the future, the brand name candidates will be getting less and less of the total. It's a definite trend. So soon, you partisans will be arguing about "consensus" and "plurality" when your candidates have 60% or 70% of America voting against them.

Now -- if you're really desperate and butt-hurt --- You could have a NEW hypothesis to test. Which is "In a 2 way race between JUST Clinton and Trump -- Clinton won" .. Problem with that hypothesis is -- we did NOT HAVE a 2 way race. So you'd have to analyze and see how that the 4.2% WOULD have voted in a 2 way race. Not likely to be convincing. Since her current 0.7% "margin" over Trump COULD BE because Trump suffered 0.7% more by the presence of OTHER CHOICES on the ballot. And my educated guess is that MOST of that 4.2% that the Dems don't want to recognize ---- just would have stayed home. But there's enough votes in that bundle to AFFECT the pop vote outcome. EVEN WITH --- illegals voting in Cali. Or any of the other "excuses".

She didn't "WIN" the popular vote. More folks voted AGAINST HER then FOR HER... By far...

Math is hard!

Why do I keep hearing that the actual Hillary vote count has just surpassed 2 million more than Trump? As a Hillary voter, I do not believe she should contest the election, but I do get a little tired of the defense of the electoral college and it's 'fairness'. Because at this point you have the most populous areas tyrannized by the least populous, and what's so great about Kansas anyway. Are these States somehow wiser and more compassionate? However, my thought, for what it's worth, is that this must be settled BEFORE an election, not in retrospect. The sun has set on the Clinton day.

It is a tad ironic that Trump is now waffling on the 'conflict of interest' part though. Assuming the mantle of the very foundation of his assertion of why Hillary is so 'crooked' is the (unproven therefore un-indictable) opportunity to take personal advantage of position to further personal gain. Wanna bet it will become the new norm within the Republican party?

Do you get tired of the Senate -- which is 5 or 6 times LESS representative than the E-College? We have a House that is damn near pure Democracy (except for 5 or 6 states who would have a fraction of one delegate). Then you have the Senate that is extraordinarily weighted to state representation. And the E-College is right in the Middle of all that..

Yes, and the Senate is the UPPER House of Congress for the same reason we have an Electoral College: because our Founding Fathers deplored mob rule.

 

[Cecilie1200]

This whole claim that she "got more votes" is a complete failure of logic anyways. If the hypothesis is that "More folks voted Hillary" --- that's actually blatantly FALSE. Because anyone saying that is disenfranchising the large 4.2% of the vote that went to Stein and Johnson. Remember them? They got votes also. And THOSE votes were on principles and AGAINST the 2 major power whores.

So Hilliary got 48% of the vote and 52% of the people VOTED AGAINST HER...

(FCT certified Fact-Checked estimate)

In the future, the brand name candidates will be getting less and less of the total. It's a definite trend. So soon, you partisans will be arguing about "consensus" and "plurality" when your candidates have 60% or 70% of America voting against them.

Now -- if you're really desperate and butt-hurt --- You could have a NEW hypothesis to test. Which is "In a 2 way race between JUST Clinton and Trump -- Clinton won" .. Problem with that hypothesis is -- we did NOT HAVE a 2 way race. So you'd have to analyze and see how that the 4.2% WOULD have voted in a 2 way race. Not likely to be convincing. Since her current 0.7% "margin" over Trump COULD BE because Trump suffered 0.7% more by the presence of OTHER CHOICES on the ballot. And my educated guess is that MOST of that 4.2% that the Dems don't want to recognize ---- just would have stayed home. But there's enough votes in that bundle to AFFECT the pop vote outcome. EVEN WITH --- illegals voting in Cali. Or any of the other "excuses".

She didn't "WIN" the popular vote. More folks voted AGAINST HER then FOR HER... By far...

Math is hard!

It's logic and being adapt at answering questions with math that matters. And if you're gonna claim "the popular vote" -- you have to include ALL of it. Basic logic and reason. Math is useless without it.

52% voted for someone else. In the near future -- that could 60% or 65%. So claiming pop vote victory under those circumstances is gonna look ridiculous -- isn't it? And that's ANOTHER reason for the electoral college. America wasn't designed for just 2 dynasty parties.

No. She won more votes than anyone else.

Basic math.

She got more votes than Donald, but not more pop votes than the ones that were cast for ALL the other choices. You have no idea what a race without 4 choices would have looked it. You can't invent the data for it.. 52% of voters DID NOT CHOOSE HER... Don't disenfranchise them.

What you are doing with this pop vote thing -- is trying to convince yourself that she got more votes than the competitive field. MY vote was not for Hillary or Trump --- and it matters 5 times more in the statistics than what you are claiming "her margin of victory" was.

The pop vote was NOT a 2 way race.

Spin it any way you want -- the bottom line is:
She won more votes than anyone else. Period.

Basic math. Fact.

Spin it any way you want. The bottom line is:

He won.

Fact.

 

[Cecilie1200]

I think many Americans still like to believe that they, and their votes, are important in selecting their government. Sort of a "we the people" thing.

Then let "we the people" change the way we count votes before an election--not after an election.

Leftists are the sort of people who sit down to a poker game and then want to change the rules halfway through because they can't win according to Hoyle.

 

[Cecilie1200]

The real question is: are the American people ready for a little more democracy and ready to let each American's vote count?

No, because they understand that, under the mob rule the leftist mob so favors, many people's votes would never count again.

 

[Meathead]

For the record, it's spelled "syph". ".

It's very hard to take someone seriously when they can't effectively use their own mother tongue.

For the record, since you're being a spelling Nazi, "As in syphilis" is not a sentence.

 

[easyt65]

The electoral college is how we pick Presidents. You just admitted that.

Hillary LOST. It's over FOR HER.

Want to change the system? Start a movement.

It still won't change the fact that Hillary lost.

Warning:
The day the MAJORITY of Anericans - who are receiving benefity from social programs and who are living off the govt begin voting / deciding what this country will do - dictating that to the MINORTY who are being forced to pay for ALL those benefits, this country is f*ed!

You'll have a hard-working minority of 'slaves' working for the majority of welfare / foodstamp / 'free-shit' Snowflakes & the system will collapse as the minority decides 'f* this' and stops working and / or collapses under the weight.

We, for example, have enough broke-ass social program moochers in this country; yet Hillary & Barry have been in millions more ... for their votes. There were not enough (3 million) to awing this election, but gove it time.

The only thing the despots in the DNC care about is staying in elitist power, and they have all their supporters brainwashed into thinking they care about them.

It was exposed their leaders think they are stupid...

It was exposed their leaders are a bunch of racist, sexist, anti-Catholic, homophobic, anti-Semites...yet the Snowflakes defend them...

It was exposed they rigged a Primary, violated the Constitution, broke laws, spued on them, used the IRS as a weapon against Americans, and that the DNC candidate AND PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES hired and coordinated political violence against the opposition's supporters in an attempt to bully / effect the outcome of the election and Snowflakes STILL sefend / support them.

The electoral college actually prevented people like that from forcing leaders like that into office over all of us.

I would say it did what the Founding Fathers intelligently meant for it to do!!

And the moment the Snowflakes change that we are all f*ed as a country.

 

[Cecilie1200]

For the record, it's spelled "syph". ".

It's very hard to take someone seriously when they can't effectively use their own mother tongue.

For the record, since you're being a spelling Nazi, "As in syphilis" is not a sentence.

Yes, I know it's not. This isn't an essay, Brain Trust. It's a conversation.

And I'm not a spelling or grammar Nazi. I'm a grammar Jedi.

Why is it that imbeciles always try to defend their illiteracy by trying to demonize the concept of doing things correctly? If I tell you that 2 + 2 does not equal 5, are you going to call me a math Nazi?

 

[paperview]

Math is hard!

It's logic and being adapt at answering questions with math that matters. And if you're gonna claim "the popular vote" -- you have to include ALL of it. Basic logic and reason. Math is useless without it.

52% voted for someone else. In the near future -- that could 60% or 65%. So claiming pop vote victory under those circumstances is gonna look ridiculous -- isn't it? And that's ANOTHER reason for the electoral college. America wasn't designed for just 2 dynasty parties.

No. She won more votes than anyone else.

Basic math.

She got more votes than Donald, but not more pop votes than the ones that were cast for ALL the other choices. You have no idea what a race without 4 choices would have looked it. You can't invent the data for it.. 52% of voters DID NOT CHOOSE HER... Don't disenfranchise them.

What you are doing with this pop vote thing -- is trying to convince yourself that she got more votes than the competitive field. MY vote was not for Hillary or Trump --- and it matters 5 times more in the statistics than what you are claiming "her margin of victory" was.

The pop vote was NOT a 2 way race.

Spin it any way you want -- the bottom line is:
She won more votes than anyone else. Period.

Basic math. Fact.

Spin it any way you want. The bottom line is:

He won.

Fact.

Have I disputed that? No. Fact.

Doesn't change the fact SHE DID get millions more votes. More votes than anyone else. Fact.

Pay attention to the topic and the comments to which I am responding.

 

[paperview]