And here you go..... The difference between a first strike and a second strike is really no difference at all.

[candycorn]

Satellite indicates that the trajectory is indeed the United States Southern shore.

Just tap out man...no repairing your lie at this point.

Once they have passed all of the geography and demonstrate an identifiable trajectory there's no need to guess about where they're going.

I guess cops can give you a ticket for how fast they think you’ll be going?

That's just vacuous and stupid.

Yet your’e the one desperatly trying to prop up your lame allegations.

They're going to change course at the last moment and go somewhere else and probably run out of fuel? No I don't think so.

Your thoughts are meaningless; your posts and reasoning are hilarious.

Additionally making the strike outside United States territorial Waters more or less eliminates the court system.

For a nation of laws...one would hope that you’d want the exact opposite. But clearly...the bloodlust you exhibit rules all.

They simply don't have jurisdiction there but the military does.

LOL...If we’re claiming jurisdiction, the constitution protects them.

 

[justoffal]

Orders to Kill Survivors at Sea​

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3 days ago — The U.S. Air Force Pamphlet on the Law of Armed Conflict states that "the law of armed conflicts clearly forbids the killing or wounding of an enemy who is hors de combat" and lists "deliberate refusal of quarter" and "deliberate attack on shipwrecked survivors" as acts involving individual criminal responsibility.

Additional Protocol I to the Geneva Conventions provides additional clarity, stating that "a person who is recognized or who, in the circumstances, should be recognized to be hors de combat shall not be made the object of attack."

The Protocol further designates "making a person the object of attack in the knowledge that he is hors de combat" as a grave breach, placing it among the most serious violations of international humanitarian law. United States military doctrine fully incorporates these principles, with the U.S. Naval Handbook explicitly listing "denial of quarter" and "offenses against the survivors of ships and aircraft lost at sea, including killing, wounding, or mistreating the shipwrecked" as representative war crimes.

U.S. military doctrine explicitly recognizes the legal protection of survivors at sea and their binding nature on American forces. The U.S. Air Force Pamphlet on the Law of Armed Conflict states that "the law of armed conflicts clearly forbids the killing or wounding of an enemy who is hors de combat" and lists "deliberate refusal of quarter" and "deliberate attack on shipwrecked survivors" as acts involving individual criminal responsibility.

The U.S. Naval Handbook provides similar guidance, emphasizing that combatants "cease to be subject to attack when they have individually laid down their arms and indicate clearly their wish to surrender." The Commander's Handbook acknowledges that surrender must be communicated at a time when it can be received and properly acted upon, but explicitly states that once combatants are disabled by wounds or circumstances, they are protected from attack.

Here's where you're going to fall into a hole.
The ordinances launched we're launched at the boat not the people. They have orders to sink the boats.... If the boat doesn't sink after the first strike a second strike on the boat it's going to follow. If the second strike doesn't sink the boat a third strike will be called.

Nobody was aiming at people... The people were in the boat and probably knew Goddamn good and well that there was a pretty good possibility they wouldn't come home.

Also how do you know that every strike didn't kill people who were in the water? How do you know that any of the combatants weren't still alive and drowned after the strike? This isn't a mercy mission.... It happened with plenty of forewarning and was not hidden from Venezuela or any of the other countries involved in speedboat trafficking. They were told directly "we're going to start sinking the speed boats"..

Even with the forewarning the traffic didn't slow down until the boats started going poof.

 

[candycorn]

Are you really that stupid that you think drug cartels are going to use a speed boat to travel the 1300 miles to the U.S. from Venezuela?

Yep...they are just that stupid. Nobody forces MAGA dolts to assume these ridiculous postures but they do it all the time to avoid disagreeing with their orange god.

 

[Hafar1014]

Just tap out man...no repairing your lie at this point.

I guess cops can give you a ticket for how fast they think you’ll be going?

Yet your’e the one desperatly trying to prop up your lame allegations.

Your thoughts are meaningless; your posts and reasoning are hilarious.

For a nation of laws...one would hope that you’d want the exact opposite. But clearly...the bloodlust you exhibit rules all.

LOL...If we’re claiming jurisdiction, the constitution protects them.

Who would ever think democrats would become the party that defends violent criminals and drug dealers. Trump has them in a state of desperation and confusion

 

[leftwinger]

Are you really that stupid that you think drug cartels are going to use a speed boat to travel the 1300 miles to the U.S. from Venezuela?

The old Stain argument smh. So they refuel or offload onto another boat. Those 55gal blue drums on board are not for fishing or tourism.

The American leaders decided to take them out. I support our leaders.

 

[martybegan]

The old Stain argument smh. So they refuel or offload onto another boat. Those 55gal blue drums on board are not for fishing or tourism.

The American leaders decided to take the out. I support our leaders.

Or another method of conveyance entirely.

Look at how the old bootleggers used to smuggle booze into the country during Prohibition.

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

Here's where you're going to fall into a hole.

You already did, trying to defend your war criminal dear leader and his regime.

The ordinances launched we're launched at the boat not the people. They have orders to sink the boats.... If the boat doesn't sink after the first strike a second strike on the boat it's going to follow. If the second strike doesn't sink the boat a third strike will be called.

Holy ****, that's even dumber than Kegseth's excuse.

Regardless, that will get you a trial at the Hague.

Nobody was aiming at people... The people were in the boat and probably knew God damn good and well that there was a pretty good possibility they wouldn't come home.

Then why didn't they seize the boat?
The people targeted, so they could go free.........RIGHT?

 

[justoffal]

You already did, trying to defend your war criminal dear leader and his regime.

Holy ****, that's even dumber than Kegseth's excuse.

Regardless, that will get you a trial at the Hague.

Then why didn't they seize the boat?
The people targeted, so they could go free.........RIGHT?

You already did, trying to defend your war criminal dear leader and his regime.

Holy ****, that's even dumber than Kegseth's excuse.

Regardless, that will get you a trial at the Hague.

Then why didn't they seize the boat?
The people targeted, so they could go free.........RIGHT?

Preserving the life of the enemy combatants is not a core part of the mission. Never was. Sinking the boats was always the stated mission. The recovery and rescue operation you're talking about is very extensive and time-consuming and exposes American servicemen to danger.

I don't need to defend anything to see how stupid the response to this whole thing is.

American court systems do not have jurisdiction in international waters. The American military does. That's all I'm pointing out.

In any case once they all find out it's not Hegseth on the hook.... But a man of color who is a Navy Admiral.... The entire thing will simply lose steam and become nothing but empty motions after that.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

Says the guy who cheered on Kirk's shooting for having "bad" opinions.

Can you show the post where he was cheering that Kirk was killed?

 

[martybegan]

Can you show the post where he was cheering that Kirk was killed?

Unlike some of you twats he was careful enough to beat around the bush, but I stand by my statement.

Or did we just identify and Candycorn sock by your white knight attempt here?

 

[sparky]

Wouldn't sinking the dope would make it unsalvageable.? ~S~

 

[justoffal]

Just tap out man...no repairing your lie at this point.

I guess cops can give you a ticket for how fast they think you’ll be going?

Yet your’e the one desperatly trying to prop up your lame allegations.

Your thoughts are meaningless; your posts and reasoning are hilarious.

For a nation of laws...one would hope that you’d want the exact opposite. But clearly...the bloodlust you exhibit rules all.

LOL...If we’re claiming jurisdiction, the constitution protects them.

Not even close to tapping out no lies have been spread. Don't have any idea what you're talking about. I do know that the court systems don't have jurisdiction and international waters but the American military does.

If that was the case Obama then would have been prosecuted for doing the same thing. This has nothing to do with law or war crimes or anything else like it... it's all just spiteful politics and nothing more.

As I said above once they find out it's not Hegseth
On the hook but instead a man of color who is a Navy Admiral.... It will all go away.

 

[justoffal]

Wouldn't sinking the dope would make it unsalvageable.? ~S~

Correct they're not going to leave it there for someone else to pick it up and continue the journey..... The whole point is to stop the drugs not to leave them there so they can be picked up by another boat and redelivered.

 

[martybegan]

Not even close to tapping out no lies have been spread. Don't have any idea what you're talking about. I do know that the court systems don't have jurisdiction and international waters but the American military does.

If that was the case Obama then would have been prosecuted for doing the same thing. This has nothing to do with law or war crimes or anything else like it... it's all just spiteful politics and nothing more.

As I said above once they find out it's not Hegseth
On the hook but instead a man of color who is a Navy Admiral.... It will all go away.

There are Admiralty courts, but those follow different rules depending on where the events happen and what country claims jurisdiction.

Admiralty court - Wikipedia

 

[justoffal]

There are Admiralty courts, but those follow different rules depending on where the events happen and what country claims jurisdiction.

Admiralty court - Wikipedia

If the court systems had jurisdiction you can be damn sure the federal judges would have already jumped in..... They know they don't have it.
The strikes are being made in international waters probably exactly for that reason.

The Democrats want to know how the military knows there are drugs on board.... I'm pretty sure these things are followed by satellite right from the place they load up until they hit the open ocean.

In fact the satellite is so good that they can even identify the faces of some of the boat occupants.

Telling the Democrats how they have proof would only cause the Democrats to run to the cartels and give it all away. Some of the GOP would do the same.

Jo

 

[candycorn]

Not even close to tapping out no lies have been spread. Don't have any idea what you're talking about. I do know that the court systems don't have jurisdiction and international waters but the American military does.

Not even remotely true. IF what you were saying is true, that would mean that China has jurisdiction as well, right?

Really...how many drugs are you taking boy?

If that was the case Obama then would have been prosecuted for doing the same thing. This has nothing to do with law or war crimes or anything else like it... it's all just spiteful politics and nothing more.

The guys being killed by your God are non-combatants. You haven’t proven they are cartel members. ISIS literally shoots people...dead...then takes credit for it. Apples and oranges comparison there.

 

[martybegan]

If the court systems had jurisdiction you can be damn sure the federal judges would have already jumped in..... They know they don't have it.
The strikes of being made in international waters probably exactly for that reason.

The Democrats want to know how the military knows there are drugs on board.... I'm pretty sure these things are followed by satellite right from the place they load up until they hit the open ocean.
In fact the satellite is so good that they can even identify the faces of some of the boat occupants.

Telling the Democrats how they have proof would only cause the Democrats to run to the cartels and give it all away. Some of the GOP would do the same.

Jo

I have a feeling it's more than satellites. I would think drones and Seal teams would be involved.

 

[martybegan]

Not even remotely true. IF what you were saying is true, that would mean that China has jurisdiction as well, right?

Really...how many drugs are you taking boy?

The guys being killed by your God are non-combatants. You haven’t proven they are cartel members. ISIS literally shoots people...dead...then takes credit for it. Apples and oranges comparison there.

And the drugs delivered by these guys kills people just the same.

They are considered terrorists as per Trump's declaration in line with US law.

 

[justoffal]

I have a feeling it's more than satellites. I would think drones and Seal teams would be involved.

Yep ... Most likely..... Like I said the Democrats are dying to find out how so they can run off and give it all away. You know damn well that's exactly what they would do.

 

[candycorn]

And the drugs delivered by these guys kills people just the same.

Again, not even remotely true. For one thing, you have to take the drug on your own. For another thing, when you take the drug, the guy next to you doesn’t die. ISIS kills defenseless people at random.

Before the blob took the escalator trip downto make the announcement...did you ever imagine you would end up making such bat-shit crazy statements as you have made on this thread alone?

You’re now equating drug pushers to terrorists. Just give that some thought for a moment. If you’re still capable.

They are considered terrorists as per Trump's declaration in line with US law.

LOL...