An independent analysis finds the new energy bill will save households, on average, $1800 per year in energy costs

[Nostra]

Hm. Okay. Well anyway, do you have data that counters mine? Should I just assume that’s a yes? Okay i will.

You don’t have data. You have the opinion of the Greentard who wrote the bill, Simp.

Nothing to counter.

 

[WEATHER53]

You don’t have data. You have the opinion of the Greentard who wrote the bill, Simp.

Nothing to counter.

40 years of paying utilities goes a long way versus feelings over what somebody else said

 

[Billy000]

You don’t have data. You have the opinion of the Greentard who wrote the bill, Simp.

Nothing to counter.

No it is actual data. The statistics mostly don’t even refer to green energy. If the data was flawed, you should be able to counter it with data of your own. Dismissing it without doing that just makes you look weak. It shouldn’t be difficult. Plenty of rightwing sources will get their own “data” to counter this. Go find it.

 

[Nostra]

No it is actual data. The statistics mostly don’t even refer to green energy. If the data was flawed, you should be able to counter it with data of your own. Dismissing it without doing that just makes you look weak. It shouldn’t be difficult. Plenty of rightwing sources will get their own “data” to counter this. Go find it.

Not data, Simp.

 

[Billy000]

Not data, Simp.

Then you should be able to find info that directly counters it. What are you waiting for? If any actually existed, you would have definitely posted it by now lol. You have nothing but your amateur, armchair critic whining of information you don’t like.

 

[whitehall]

No it is actual data. The statistics mostly don’t even refer to green energy. If the data was flawed, you should be able to counter it with data of your own. Dismissing it without doing that just makes you look weak. It shouldn’t be difficult. Plenty of rightwing sources will get their own “data” to counter this. Go find it.

It's not even data. It's a Yahoo op-ed by a babe named Akiko Fujita of Yahoo who interpreted something authored by a green energy group called "rewire America". Nothing about it is either independent or factual.

 

[Nostra]

Then you should be able to find info that directly counters it. What are you waiting for? If any actually existed, you would have definitely posted it by now lol. You have nothing but your amateur, armchair critic whining of information you don’t like.

They just passed the bill and the Greentard hack who wrote it threw out numbers.

You have no data, just wishful thinking by your Greentard.

What a colossal clusterfuck thread you have on your hands.

 

[JusticeHammer]

No it is actual data. The statistics mostly don’t even refer to green energy. If the data was flawed, you should be able to counter it with data of your own. Dismissing it without doing that just makes you look weak. It shouldn’t be difficult. Plenty of rightwing sources will get their own “data” to counter this. Go find it.

And it will be more truthful than left-wing data.

 

[JusticeHammer]

Then you should be able to find info that directly counters it. What are you waiting for? If any actually existed, you would have definitely posted it by now lol. You have nothing but your amateur, armchair critic whining of information you don’t like.

For one thing, anything put out by a ***** lib is a lie. Anything the ***** libs pass in Congress, guaranteed to be bad for America.

 

[Billy000]

It's not even data. It's a Yahoo op-ed by a babe named Akiko Fujita of Yahoo who interpreted something authored by a green energy group called "rewire America". Nothing about it is either independent or factual.

Then provide your own data to counter it or shut up.

 

[Billy000]

They just passed the bill and the Greentard hack who wrote it threw out numbers.

You have no data, just wishful thinking by your Greentard.

What a colossal clusterfuck thread you have on your hands.

Lol you obviously try way too hard. It’s just transparent how hard you try. No amount of emojis will cover it up. I have a source and you have nothing. You’re useless. You bring NOTHING to the conversation besides whining.

 

[bripat9643]

The bill doesn’t go far enough, but the whole thing is a good start.

“The program dubbed the High Efficiency Electric Home Rebate Act (HEERA) sets aside $4.5 billion in direct rebates for low- and moderate-income households that install new, efficient electric appliances.

Under the proposed rebate framework, a low-income household would receive a rebate of up to $8,000 for a new heat pump, $840 for an electric stove or electric dryer, and $2,500 for updated electrical wiring, among other rebates. Matusiak said those incentives will enable 1 million households to go electric.”

Inflation Reduction Act would lead to $1,800 in savings for average household, analysis finds

Sweeping climate and health care legislation unveiled by Democrats last week would lead to significant cuts in energy costs for American households, according to a new analysis.

finance.yahoo.com

I thought it was supposed to be an anti-inflation bill.

 

[Nostra]

Lol you obviously try way too hard. It’s just transparent how hard you try. No amount of emojis will cover it up. I have a source and you have nothing. You’re useless. You bring NOTHING to the conversation besides whining.

 

[Billy000]

That’s what I thought.

 

[2aguy]

The bill doesn’t go far enough, but the whole thing is a good start.

“The program dubbed the High Efficiency Electric Home Rebate Act (HEERA) sets aside $4.5 billion in direct rebates for low- and moderate-income households that install new, efficient electric appliances.

Under the proposed rebate framework, a low-income household would receive a rebate of up to $8,000 for a new heat pump, $840 for an electric stove or electric dryer, and $2,500 for updated electrical wiring, among other rebates. Matusiak said those incentives will enable 1 million households to go electric.”

Inflation Reduction Act would lead to $1,800 in savings for average household, analysis finds

Sweeping climate and health care legislation unveiled by Democrats last week would lead to significant cuts in energy costs for American households, according to a new analysis.

finance.yahoo.com

Oh…. I thought this was the humor section.

 

[Nostra]

That’s what I thought.

Dude, your thread title is complete bullshit which means your thread is complete bullshit.

There is nothing "independent" about anything in your OP, Simp.

That has been proven, so for you to now try to argue over numbers is amusing.

 

[Billy000]

Dude, your thread title is complete bullshit which means your thread is complete bullshit.

There is nothing "independent" about anything in your OP, Simp.

That has been proven, so for you to now try to argue over numbers is amusing.

Lol you need to prove the data wrong. Whining about where the data comes from is a complete waste if you can’t do that.

 

[WEATHER53]

Then provide your own data to counter it or shut up.

Ok those of us who have paid utilities for 5-40 years would be your resource
Average 2000 sq ft home will have$250-300 pm expenses from gas or oil, water if public and sewer if public and electricity
No hocus pocus speculative bullshit will reduce that by $150 per month
Living life trumps reading about it

 

[Nostra]

Lol you need to prove the data wrong. Whining about where the data comes from is a complete waste if you can’t do that.

No, I don't. You have no data, Simp. We have been over this.

Tell us again how this Greentard who wrote the bill provided "independent analysis".

 

[Billy000]

Ok those of us who have paid utilities for 5-40 years would be your resource
Average 2000 sq ft home will have$250-300 pm expenses from gas or oil, water if public and sewer if public and electricity
No hocus pocus speculative bullshit will reduce that by $150 per month
Living life trumps reading about it

You’re

No, I don't. You have no data, Simp. We have been over this.

Tell us again how this Greentard who wrote the bill provided "independent analysis".

Your entire opinion of this guy is completely subjective therefore it means jack shit lol