An ice free day in the Arctic Ocean by 2030?

[HikerGuy83]

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

It appears Old Rock has a poor memory since they were predicting no more sea ice in the Arctic by 2000 here is the article showing the many failed predictions that never came close to happening and mostly by Polar based scientists,

First the chart showing no more decline since 2007:

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Here are two link to browse in,

Ice Free Arctic Forecasts​

LINK

and a second one with more failed predictions,

Ice-Free Arctic Forecasts​

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That's gotta hurt !!!

 

[abu afak]

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

It appears Old Rock has a poor memory since they were predicting no more sea ice in the Arctic by 2000 here is the article showing the many failed predictions that never came close to happening and mostly by Polar based scientists,

First the chart showing no more decline since 2007:

View attachment 1116283

Here are two link to browse in,

Ice Free Arctic Forecasts​

LINK

and a second one with more failed predictions,

Ice-Free Arctic Forecasts​

LINK

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[Eman623]

And you are a silly little willfully ignorant liar. No, that video is positing that we may see the first full day when the Arctic Ocean meets the present definition of ice free by 2030. Emphasis on may. As far as your other insults, I fully expect that from the normal cultist MAGAt.

With luck I will still be here by 2030 and we will see. You'll still be here of course. LLMs are immortal as long as the electricity keeps flowing.

 

[ding]

But that won't happen in my lifetime. However, I may live to see a summer ice free Arctic Ocean. And that will be catastrophic enough.

No, it won't be catastrophic. What will be catastrophic is when the AMOC switches off.

 

[ding]

This is what catastrophic looks like.

https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.adk1189#:~:text=From%20proxy%20records%2C%20it%20has,under%20a%20slowly%20developing%20forcing.

 

[HikerGuy83]

That is why they are processing the tar sands

Tar sands technology has just come on line.

As long as the price is above some baseline, it is viable.

There is still plenty of easy oil out there.

If it gets cheap enough, tar sands can't compete.

But OPEC sees that such isn't the case.

They will cut prices when other technologies start to look good.

 

[ding]

the ever increasing extreme climate disasters, there will be more and more people listening.

 

[abu afak]

Tar sands technology has just come on line.

As long as the price is above some baseline, it is viable.

There is still plenty of easy oil out there.

If it gets cheap enough, tar sands can't compete.

But OPEC sees that such isn't the case.

They will cut prices when other technologies start to look good.

Three of the ding's Graphs you gave a like to are 1750-1850 and have NO bearing on wether there was Warming from 1850-2000, THE Topic at hand.
The other to 2000 shows AMOC/Not Temp. (and omits the last 25 years of Record heat)
His usual Worthless deflections.

But thanks for making an on topic sober post.
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[CrusaderFrank]

Were greener and the ice caps have gained 100 billion tons of new ice

The CCP continues to fund the AGW agitprop to drive down the US economy

 

[CrusaderFrank]

No, just as it did not mention that China is installing more renewable energy then the rest of the world combined. And that they are well ahead of their own goals for reduction of CO2. Could be that by 2040 given the present admin's idiocy we will reclaim the title as the world's #1 polluter.

There it is again!! The CCP gets a free pass

Double the US CO2 output which INCREASES, but their CO2 is not the problem

This is how you can tell there is no manmade CO2 Global Climate Warming Crisis

 

[ding]

Three of the ding's Graphs you gave a like to are 1750-1850 and have NO bearing on wether there was Warming from 1850-2000, THE Topic at hand.
The other to 2000 shows AMOC/Not Temp. (and omits the last 25 years of Record heat)
His usual Worthless deflections.

But thanks for making an on topic sober post.
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The planet has been warming since the end of the little ice age, dummy.

 

[Old Rocks]

No, it won't be catastrophic. What will be catastrophic is when the AMOC switches off.

And you believe there will be no connection between the two events? LOL

 

[Old Rocks]

There it is again!! The CCP gets a free pass

Double the US CO2 output which INCREASES, but their CO2 is not the problem

This is how you can tell there is no manmade CO2 Global Climate Warming Crisis

Now you are trying to put words in my mouth. No, China's present emissions are a major concern. And since we are #2, ours are also a major concern. However, China is actually on a path to reduce their emissions, whereas we have an idiot President that is eager to increase ours.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

 

[ding]

And you believe there will be no connection between the two events? LOL

None at all. It is temperature dependent. The fact there have been more than 30 in the last 3 million years - none of which were caused by CO2 - ought to tell you that in the presence of heat being circulated from the Atlantic to the Arctic the planet will NATURALLY warm until the thermohaline current gets disrupted due to density differences (salinity and thermal).

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Now you are trying to put words in my mouth. No, China's present emissions are a major concern. And since we are #2, ours are also a major concern. However, China is actually on a path to reduce their emissions, whereas we have an idiot President that is eager to increase ours.

However, China is actually on a path to reduce their emissions,

When is that reduction going to occur?

 

[Old Rocks]

That's gotta hurt !!!

What a lot of crap you posted. So here is one of your sources;

Damn, what do ya know, the Northwest Passage first opened up in 2007. In 2016, a thousand passenger cruise ship navigated the passage. It has opened up several times since. Now let's look a real scientists predictions for the warming:

"The global temperature rose 0.2°C between the middle 1960s and 1980, yielding a warming of 0.4°C in the past century. This temperature incr
ease is consistent with the calculated effect due to measured increases of atmospheric carbon dioxide. Variations of volcanic aerosols and possibly solar luminosity appear to be primary causes of observed fluctuations about the mean trend of increasing temperature. It is shown that the anthropogenic carbon dioxide warming should emerge from the noise level of natural climate variability by the end of the century, and there is a high probability of warming in the 1980s. Potential effects on climate in the 21st century include the creation of drought-prone regions in North America and central Asia as part of a shifting of climatic zones, erosion of the West Antarctic ice sheet with a consequent worldwide rise in sea level, and opening of the fabled Northwest Passage."

NASA GISS: Hansen et al. 1981: Climate impact of increasing atmospheric carbon dioxide

www.giss.nasa.gov

 

[Old Rocks]

However, China is actually on a path to reduce their emissions,

When is that reduction going to occur?

Here you go;
"Despite increasing power demands, carbon dioxide pollution has steadily decreased in China for the first time.

The reason behind the shift is clean energy generation from solar, wind, and nuclear sources as alternatives to coal.

As Carbon Brief reported, China's CO2 pollution dropped by 1.6% in the first quarter of 2025 and by 1% over the past year.

Analysts reviewed commercial data and official figures to study China's energy sourcing and emissions output. They pulled information from the National Energy Administration of China, the National Bureau of Statistics of China, the China Electricity Council, China Customs official data releases, and an industry provider called WIND Information."

New study reveals China’s surprising shift after years of criticism from world leaders: 'That is great news'

Despite increasing power demands, carbon dioxide pollution has steadily decreased in China for the first time.

www.thecooldown.com

 

[Old Rocks]

None at all. It is temperature dependent. The fact there have been more than 30 in the last 3 million years - none of which were caused by CO2 - ought to tell you that in the presence of heat being circulated from the Atlantic to the Arctic the planet will NATURALLY warm until the thermohaline current gets disrupted due to density differences (salinity and thermal).

Dumb-de-dumb dumb. Silly ass, by the very factor that you are invoking, the Milankovitch Cycles, we should be in a cooling period right now. We were, until the Industrial Revolution. That combined with the very rapid deforestration we have had at the same time is the major reason we are very rapidly warming instead of slowly cooling. Ah well, little lame brains like you obviously think you know far more than the geologists, physicists, and meteorologists. Do you even have a GED?

 

[ding]

Dumb-de-dumb dumb. Silly ass, by the very factor that you are invoking, the Milankovitch Cycles, we should be in a cooling period right now. We were, until the Industrial Revolution. That combined with the very rapid deforestration we have had at the same time is the major reason we are very rapidly warming instead of slowly cooling. Ah well, little lame brains like you obviously think you know far more than the geologists, physicists, and meteorologists. Do you even have a GED?

You better rethink that statement. Can you show me using this IPCC graphic where it shows that?