An excellent explanation of left and right, and how the left must lie about it.

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This is one of the best breakdowns of the lie that Republicans are fascists…….the author goes into detail about the left/socialists and their lies about the political spectrum……..

When the fact is mentioned that the Nazis and Commies agree on every point of theory and practice, and disagree only on minutia, the Leftists quickly explain that the line describing the spectrum of possible political opinions was actually a circle, on the grounds that whatever trait it is that the spectrum actually measures, an extreme amount of it is the same as an extreme lack.

Such a trait does not exist, of course, so this circular spectrum is designed to be nonsensical.

This idea of a circular spectrum, which runs all the way from one kind of totalitarian socialism to another kind of totalitarian socialism, was taught as gospel in the schools in my youth, and reported as fact in newspapers.

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Rightwing” refers, in America, to those upholding the Enlightenment theory of government based on natural law as articulated in the opening clauses of the Declaration of Independence.

In Europe, “Rightwing” refers to those upholding the post-Reformation nation-states, with established churches under the rule of monarchs, the aristocratic class, or some combination of the two.

Socialists come in two flavors: international socialists, called communists, and national socialists, called fascists.

The Nazis of Germany were the National Socialist German Worker’s Party. Note the word Socialist.

The Fascists of Italy proposes a collectivist program where all individualism was subordinated to the state, hence the term, “fascist” which refers to the fasci, a bundle of sticks which can be each broken separately, but not when bound together.


There are those who see the modern liberal system as being little more than a continuation of the project of the Enlightenment, which is to destroy traditional institutions.
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The designation of Left or Right, originally born in the politics of monarchic France, was co-opted by the Socialists to apply it to themselves, in order to cloak their totalitarian death-cult dogmas in the glamor and demeanor of pro-liberty and pro-equality measures popularized by the writings of Locke and Montesquieu and the success of the American Revolution.

Only by avoiding definitions, can the confusion of terms continue.



As used by Leftists, the word “Leftist” refers to any who support the overthrow of traditional institutions, monarchic or republican, the free market or the established church or the nuclear family, in favor of Socialist revolution, and “Right” refers to any opposition to that overthrow.

Since Hitler and Mussolini, both of them ardent socialists, preached the overthrow of traditional institutions in the name of halting Communism, the Communists listed them as “Rightwing” alongside the Monarchy, the Papacy, Established Protestant national churches of Europe, Imperial Japan, and the anti-monarchical disestablishmentarian republicans of America.






 
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This is one of the best breakdowns of the lie that Republicans are fascists…….the author goes into detail about the left/socialists and their lies about the political spectrum……..

When the fact is mentioned that the Nazis and Commies agree on every point of theory and practice, and disagree only on minutia, the Leftists quickly explain that the line describing the spectrum of possible political opinions was actually a circle, on the grounds that whatever trait it is that the spectrum actually measures, an extreme amount of it is the same as an extreme lack.

Such a trait does not exist, of course, so this circular spectrum is designed to be nonsensical.

This idea of a circular spectrum, which runs all the way from one kind of totalitarian socialism to another kind of totalitarian socialism, was taught as gospel in the schools in my youth, and reported as fact in newspapers.

——————————————
Rightwing” refers, in America, to those upholding the Enlightenment theory of government based on natural law as articulated in the opening clauses of the Declaration of Independence.

In Europe, “Rightwing” refers to those upholding the post-Reformation nation-states, with established churches under the rule of monarchs, the aristocratic class, or some combination of the two.

Socialists come in two flavors: international socialists, called communists, and national socialists, called fascists.

The Nazis of Germany were the National Socialist German Worker’s Party. Note the word Socialist.

The Fascists of Italy proposes a collectivist program where all individualism was subordinated to the state, hence the term, “fascist” which refers to the fasci, a bundle of sticks which can be each broken separately, but not when bound together.


There are those who see the modern liberal system as being little more than a continuation of the project of the Enlightenment, which is to destroy traditional institutions.
——————————-
The designation of Left or Right, originally born in the politics of monarchic France, was co-opted by the Socialists to apply it to themselves, in order to cloak their totalitarian death-cult dogmas in the glamor and demeanor of pro-liberty and pro-equality measures popularized by the writings of Locke and Montesquieu and the success of the American Revolution.

Only by avoiding definitions, can the confusion of terms continue.



As used by Leftists, the word “Leftist” refers to any who support the overthrow of traditional institutions, monarchic or republican, the free market or the established church or the nuclear family, in favor of Socialist revolution, and “Right” refers to any opposition to that overthrow.

Since Hitler and Mussolini, both of them ardent socialists, preached the overthrow of traditional institutions in the name of halting Communism, the Communists listed them as “Rightwing” alongside the Monarchy, the Papacy, Established Protestant national churches of Europe, Imperial Japan, and the anti-monarchical disestablishmentarian republicans of America.






I had the same fucked up “education” and was mislead to believe Hitlers Socialism was “right wing” ideology
 
The main tenant of FASCISM is their utter HATRED of the LEFT.

This is why this DISHONEST OP will, under NO circumstances, post the DEFINITION of the term Fascist.
This is not other parts of the world. The infection became malignant near the time of our peak as the richest nation of the world. Fascism makes no difference of party which causes it. I know this. The last several years of which fascism is, ...is all Prog.
 
This is not other parts of the world. The infection became malignant near the time of our peak as the richest nation of the world. Fascism makes no difference of party which causes it. I know this. The last several years of which fascism is, ...is all Prog.
Kook post.
 
The main tenant of FASCISM is their utter HATRED of the LEFT.

This is why this DISHONEST OP will, under NO circumstances, post the DEFINITION of the term Fascist.


Moron.......that old lie.....

If the Crips drug gang is murdering the Bloods gang members, does that mean that the Crips are not a drug gang....you freaking doofus.


The Nationals Socialists hated the Internationals socialists because they were both trying to gain power....you idiot.
 
Probably one of the core strategies of wingers on both ends. Make up a specific definition of a word so that it fits your agenda, lay it out with that definition, pretend you "won".


Nope...you can't lie about this......

Here is the national socialist platform.......compare that to the democrat party of today, and communists.....

Leftism is socialism is leftism.

Leftism denies the natural rights of man by asserting a supremacy of one collective over another. The collective named to be supreme differs between differing flavors of leftism, but this difference is cosmetic, not substantial.

Allow me to quote in part from the 25 point program of the Nazi Party from 1920, which remained unchanged throughout the Third Reich.

We will mark which points align with Socialist hence Leftwing doctrine versus Constitutionalist hence Rightwing.

The first ten points establish a racial collective state, where members of different races are ruled under different laws. Affirmative Action, in other words. That is so remarkably and obviously leftwing as to need no further comment from me. See Black Lives Matter for details.

11. The abolition of incomes unearned by work.

This refers to interest from investments without which industrial activity cannot be privately funded. This is an implicit call to nationalize all investment. Socialist.

12. We demand therefore the ruthless confiscation of all war profits.

This is an explicit call to nationalize all military supply industries. Socialist.

13. We demand the nationalization of all businesses which have been formed into corporations (trusts).

This is an explicit call to nationalize all corporate industries. Socialist.

14. We demand profit-sharing in large industrial enterprises.

This is an explicit call for state control of terms of compensation. Socialist.

15. We demand the extensive development of insurance for old age.

This is an explicit call for socialized pensions. Socialist.

16. We demand … immediate communalizing of big department stores, and their lease at a cheap rate to small traders…

This is an explicit call for socialized retail. Socialist.

17. We demand a land reform suitable to our national requirements, the passing of a law for the expropriation of land for communal purposes without compensation; the abolition of ground rent, and the prohibition of all speculation in land.

This is an explicit call for communal farms, state control of rents, nationalization of investment in land. Socialist.

18. We demand the ruthless prosecution of those whose activities are injurious to the common interest. Common criminals, usurers, profiteers, etc., must be punished with death, whatever their creed or race.

Note the listing of common criminals with usurers and profiteers. This is the implicit criminalization of the free market. Socialist.

19. We demand that Roman Law, which serves a materialistic world order, be replaced by a German common law.

This is an explicit call for the elimination of the traditional judge-made sources of law, akin to Anglo-American Common Law, in favor of reformers and radicals.

The elimination of Common Law is the heart and soul of radicalism. Socialist.

20. The State must consider a thorough reconstruction of our national system of education

This is an explicit call for a nationalized public school system, to eliminate private and religious schooling. Socialist.

21. The State must ensure that the nation’s health standards are raised by … by prohibiting child labor, by promoting physical strength through legislation providing for compulsory gymnastics and sports….

Laws against child labor are core leftwing crusading goals, since before the time of Dickens. Compulsory gymnastics and sports was enacted into law in Ohio and California after the Civil War, so this one point, finally might be arguably rightwing or leftwing, depending on whether compulsory public education is.

My personal opinion is that compulsory public education is and always was socialist in origin and aim. See John Dewey for details.


22. We demand the abolition of the mercenary [i.e. professional] army and the formation of a people’s army.

A call for a conscript army rather than a professional army corps is socialist.

23. We demand legal warfare on deliberate political mendacity and its dissemination in the press.

This is a call to stop the spread of disinformation. Denies free speech. Socialist.

24. We demand freedom for all religious denominations in the State, provided they do not threaten its existence nor offend the moral feelings of the German race.

And this is a call to stop hate-speech. Like banning sermons that offend sodomites, curtailing religion in deference to secular authority is socialist. Socialism is a jealous god, and must destroy all other institutions, divine or human.
 
Nope...you can't lie about this......

Here is the national socialist platform.......compare that to the democrat party of today, and communists.....

Leftism is socialism is leftism.

Leftism denies the natural rights of man by asserting a supremacy of one collective over another. The collective named to be supreme differs between differing flavors of leftism, but this difference is cosmetic, not substantial.

Allow me to quote in part from the 25 point program of the Nazi Party from 1920, which remained unchanged throughout the Third Reich.

We will mark which points align with Socialist hence Leftwing doctrine versus Constitutionalist hence Rightwing.

The first ten points establish a racial collective state, where members of different races are ruled under different laws. Affirmative Action, in other words. That is so remarkably and obviously leftwing as to need no further comment from me. See Black Lives Matter for details.

11. The abolition of incomes unearned by work.

This refers to interest from investments without which industrial activity cannot be privately funded. This is an implicit call to nationalize all investment. Socialist.

12. We demand therefore the ruthless confiscation of all war profits.

This is an explicit call to nationalize all military supply industries. Socialist.

13. We demand the nationalization of all businesses which have been formed into corporations (trusts).

This is an explicit call to nationalize all corporate industries. Socialist.

14. We demand profit-sharing in large industrial enterprises.

This is an explicit call for state control of terms of compensation. Socialist.

15. We demand the extensive development of insurance for old age.

This is an explicit call for socialized pensions. Socialist.

16. We demand … immediate communalizing of big department stores, and their lease at a cheap rate to small traders…

This is an explicit call for socialized retail. Socialist.

17. We demand a land reform suitable to our national requirements, the passing of a law for the expropriation of land for communal purposes without compensation; the abolition of ground rent, and the prohibition of all speculation in land.

This is an explicit call for communal farms, state control of rents, nationalization of investment in land. Socialist.

18. We demand the ruthless prosecution of those whose activities are injurious to the common interest. Common criminals, usurers, profiteers, etc., must be punished with death, whatever their creed or race.

Note the listing of common criminals with usurers and profiteers. This is the implicit criminalization of the free market. Socialist.

19. We demand that Roman Law, which serves a materialistic world order, be replaced by a German common law.

This is an explicit call for the elimination of the traditional judge-made sources of law, akin to Anglo-American Common Law, in favor of reformers and radicals.

The elimination of Common Law is the heart and soul of radicalism. Socialist.

20. The State must consider a thorough reconstruction of our national system of education

This is an explicit call for a nationalized public school system, to eliminate private and religious schooling. Socialist.

21. The State must ensure that the nation’s health standards are raised by … by prohibiting child labor, by promoting physical strength through legislation providing for compulsory gymnastics and sports….

Laws against child labor are core leftwing crusading goals, since before the time of Dickens. Compulsory gymnastics and sports was enacted into law in Ohio and California after the Civil War, so this one point, finally might be arguably rightwing or leftwing, depending on whether compulsory public education is.

My personal opinion is that compulsory public education is and always was socialist in origin and aim. See John Dewey for details.


22. We demand the abolition of the mercenary [i.e. professional] army and the formation of a people’s army.

A call for a conscript army rather than a professional army corps is socialist.


23. We demand legal warfare on deliberate political mendacity and its dissemination in the press.

This is a call to stop the spread of disinformation. Denies free speech. Socialist.


24. We demand freedom for all religious denominations in the State, provided they do not threaten its existence nor offend the moral feelings of the German race.

And this is a call to stop hate-speech. Like banning sermons that offend sodomites, curtailing religion in deference to secular authority is socialist. Socialism is a jealous god, and must destroy all other institutions, divine or human.
I'm sure that's all very interesting.

My opinion stands. The two ends of the political spectrum share many behaviors.
 
I'm sure that's all very interesting.

My opinion stands. The two ends of the political spectrum share many behaviors.


No....actually, they don't....that is just dumb.......one side wants less government, the Right, the other wants more and more government....the left. They can't come around and meet at total government control...that doesn't work.....only an idiot would try to pass that lie off over and over again.
 
This is one of the best breakdowns of the lie that Republicans are fascists…….the author goes into detail about the left/socialists and their lies about the political spectrum……..

When the fact is mentioned that the Nazis and Commies agree on every point of theory and practice, and disagree only on minutia
When you start with a lie you never end up at the truth.
 
No....actually, they don't....that is just dumb.......one side wants less government, the Right, the other wants more and more government....the left. They can't come around and meet at total government control...that doesn't work.....only an idiot would try to pass that lie off over and over again.
Behaviors, Einstein. Not issues. Behaviors.

This is why I no longer bother.
 
The main tenant of FASCISM is their utter HATRED of the LEFT.

This is why this DISHONEST OP will, under NO circumstances, post the DEFINITION of the term Fascist.
how bogus.

anyone can be a fascist

and all elite dims are that
 
Nope...you can't lie about this......

Here is the national socialist platform.......compare that to the democrat party of today, and communists.....

Leftism is socialism is leftism.

Leftism denies the natural rights of man by asserting a supremacy of one collective over another. The collective named to be supreme differs between differing flavors of leftism, but this difference is cosmetic, not substantial.

Allow me to quote in part from the 25 point program of the Nazi Party from 1920, which remained unchanged throughout the Third Reich.

We will mark which points align with Socialist hence Leftwing doctrine versus Constitutionalist hence Rightwing.

The first ten points establish a racial collective state, where members of different races are ruled under different laws. Affirmative Action, in other words. That is so remarkably and obviously leftwing as to need no further comment from me. See Black Lives Matter for details.

11. The abolition of incomes unearned by work.

This refers to interest from investments without which industrial activity cannot be privately funded. This is an implicit call to nationalize all investment. Socialist.

12. We demand therefore the ruthless confiscation of all war profits.

This is an explicit call to nationalize all military supply industries. Socialist.

13. We demand the nationalization of all businesses which have been formed into corporations (trusts).

This is an explicit call to nationalize all corporate industries. Socialist.

14. We demand profit-sharing in large industrial enterprises.

This is an explicit call for state control of terms of compensation. Socialist.

15. We demand the extensive development of insurance for old age.

This is an explicit call for socialized pensions. Socialist.

16. We demand … immediate communalizing of big department stores, and their lease at a cheap rate to small traders…

This is an explicit call for socialized retail. Socialist.

17. We demand a land reform suitable to our national requirements, the passing of a law for the expropriation of land for communal purposes without compensation; the abolition of ground rent, and the prohibition of all speculation in land.

This is an explicit call for communal farms, state control of rents, nationalization of investment in land. Socialist.

18. We demand the ruthless prosecution of those whose activities are injurious to the common interest. Common criminals, usurers, profiteers, etc., must be punished with death, whatever their creed or race.

Note the listing of common criminals with usurers and profiteers. This is the implicit criminalization of the free market. Socialist.

19. We demand that Roman Law, which serves a materialistic world order, be replaced by a German common law.

This is an explicit call for the elimination of the traditional judge-made sources of law, akin to Anglo-American Common Law, in favor of reformers and radicals.

The elimination of Common Law is the heart and soul of radicalism. Socialist.

20. The State must consider a thorough reconstruction of our national system of education

This is an explicit call for a nationalized public school system, to eliminate private and religious schooling. Socialist.

21. The State must ensure that the nation’s health standards are raised by … by prohibiting child labor, by promoting physical strength through legislation providing for compulsory gymnastics and sports….

Laws against child labor are core leftwing crusading goals, since before the time of Dickens. Compulsory gymnastics and sports was enacted into law in Ohio and California after the Civil War, so this one point, finally might be arguably rightwing or leftwing, depending on whether compulsory public education is.

My personal opinion is that compulsory public education is and always was socialist in origin and aim. See John Dewey for details.


22. We demand the abolition of the mercenary [i.e. professional] army and the formation of a people’s army.

A call for a conscript army rather than a professional army corps is socialist.


23. We demand legal warfare on deliberate political mendacity and its dissemination in the press.

This is a call to stop the spread of disinformation. Denies free speech. Socialist.


24. We demand freedom for all religious denominations in the State, provided they do not threaten its existence nor offend the moral feelings of the German race.

And this is a call to stop hate-speech. Like banning sermons that offend sodomites, curtailing religion in deference to secular authority is socialist. Socialism is a jealous god, and must destroy all other institutions, divine or human.

If you knew anything about Hitler, you'd know that he would say anything that anyone wanted to hear in order to get their support - Hitler had no economic policy except for expanding Germany thru military conquest.

Here is Hitler's actual thoughts:
 
If you knew anything about Hitler, you'd know that he would say anything that anyone wanted to hear in order to get their support - Hitler had no economic policy except for expanding Germany thru military conquest.

Here is Hitler's actual thoughts:


And the actual party platform....what they actually did....

The first ten points establish a racial collective state, where members of different races are ruled under different laws. Affirmative Action, in other words. That is so remarkably and obviously leftwing as to need no further comment from me. See Black Lives Matter for details.

11. The abolition of incomes unearned by work.

This refers to interest from investments without which industrial activity cannot be privately funded. This is an implicit call to nationalize all investment. Socialist.

12. We demand therefore the ruthless confiscation of all war profits.

This is an explicit call to nationalize all military supply industries. Socialist.

13. We demand the nationalization of all businesses which have been formed into corporations (trusts).

This is an explicit call to nationalize all corporate industries. Socialist.

14. We demand profit-sharing in large industrial enterprises.

This is an explicit call for state control of terms of compensation. Socialist.

15. We demand the extensive development of insurance for old age.

This is an explicit call for socialized pensions. Socialist.

16. We demand … immediate communalizing of big department stores, and their lease at a cheap rate to small traders…

This is an explicit call for socialized retail. Socialist.

17. We demand a land reform suitable to our national requirements, the passing of a law for the expropriation of land for communal purposes without compensation; the abolition of ground rent, and the prohibition of all speculation in land.

This is an explicit call for communal farms, state control of rents, nationalization of investment in land. Socialist.

18. We demand the ruthless prosecution of those whose activities are injurious to the common interest. Common criminals, usurers, profiteers, etc., must be punished with death, whatever their creed or race.

Note the listing of common criminals with usurers and profiteers. This is the implicit criminalization of the free market. Socialist.

19. We demand that Roman Law, which serves a materialistic world order, be replaced by a German common law.

This is an explicit call for the elimination of the traditional judge-made sources of law, akin to Anglo-American Common Law, in favor of reformers and radicals.

The elimination of Common Law is the heart and soul of radicalism. Socialist.

20. The State must consider a thorough reconstruction of our national system of education

This is an explicit call for a nationalized public school system, to eliminate private and religious schooling. Socialist.

21. The State must ensure that the nation’s health standards are raised by … by prohibiting child labor, by promoting physical strength through legislation providing for compulsory gymnastics and sports….

Laws against child labor are core leftwing crusading goals, since before the time of Dickens. Compulsory gymnastics and sports was enacted into law in Ohio and California after the Civil War, so this one point, finally might be arguably rightwing or leftwing, depending on whether compulsory public education is.
 

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