An excellent explanation of left and right, and how the left must lie about it.

[initforme]

All I know is that I have zero respect for any founding fathers who owned slaves. Zero. None. Notta.

 

[g5000]

No......I gave you Ludwig Von Mises, and Friedrich Hayek....not only two economists, famous economists.....but they lived in Germany and Austria at the time...you doofus.

Neither Mises nor Hayek called the Nazis left wing.

Now...I give you Hitler himself:

That is the point when I saw two dangers approaching. Previously, I did not truly understand their names or their importance to the German people’s existence. Their names were Marxism and Jewry. - Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf


This is sufficiently illustrated by the absurdity with which they are treated by the left. One lets them talk and laughs at them. But a man who in this world does not succeed in being hated by his adversaries, seems to me of little value as a friend. Therefore, the friendship of these people was not only of no value for our young movement, but even harmful. -Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf


And here Hitler talks about tards who think he's a leftist:

How often we shouted with laughter at these stupid bourgeois cowards, in the face of the intelligent guessing at our origin, our intentions and our goal !

We chose the red color of our posters after exacting and thorough reflection, in order to provoke the leftists by this, to bring them to indignation and to induce them to come to our meetings, if only to break them up, so that in this way we were at least enabled to speak to these people. - Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf


Only an actual brain damaged retard could read Mein Kampf and walk away thinking Hitler was a leftist. You obviously have never read it.

 

[g5000]

I was looking at our universities the other day, and I noticed something was missing.

"Herr Göring", I said. "We do not have enough Negroes in our universities! We must put into place an affirmative action plan to correct this terrible situation."

Heil multiculturalism!!

But I was just getting started!

"I want homosexuals in the Wehrmacht first thing in the morning!!!", I said.

Heil diversity!!!

 

[g5000]

So...yeah. Hitler was a leftist.

 

[2aguy]

Neither Mises nor Hayek called the Nazis left wing.

Now...I give you Hitler himself:

That is the point when I saw two dangers approaching. Previously, I did not truly understand their names or their importance to the German people’s existence. Their names were Marxism and Jewry. - Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf


This is sufficiently illustrated by the absurdity with which they are treated by the left. One lets them talk and laughs at them. But a man who in this world does not succeed in being hated by his adversaries, seems to me of little value as a friend. Therefore, the friendship of these people was not only of no value for our young movement, but even harmful. -Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf


And here Hitler talks about tards who think he's a leftist:

How often we shouted with laughter at these stupid bourgeois cowards, in the face of the intelligent guessing at our origin, our intentions and our goal !

We chose the red color of our posters after exacting and thorough reflection, in order to provoke the leftists by this, to bring them to indignation and to induce them to come to our meetings, if only to break them up, so that in this way we were at least enabled to speak to these people. - Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf


Only an actual brain damaged retard could read Mein Kampf and walk away thinking Hitler was a leftist. You obviously have never read it.

And Von Mises and Hayek looked at what the national socialists actually did with their economy, you doofus.

 

[2aguy]

So...yeah. Hitler was a leftist.

Moron.....

The Nazis were socialists, and it showed in many of the policies they implemented after coming to power in 1933. First, like the Soviets, the Nazis initiated a war on private property. Not surprisingly, property rights were severely curbed by National Socialism in the name of public welfare.

How did the National Socialists combat private property in Germany? The first step came shortly after the Nazis took control, when they abolished private property. Article 153 of the Weimar constitution guaranteed private property, with expropriation only to occur within the due process of the law, but this article was nullified by a decree on February 28, 1933.

With this, the new National Socialist government had complete control of private property in Germany. While they did not take complete control of the lands like the Bolsheviks did in Russia in 1917, the Nazis issued quotas for industries and farms, and later they reorganized all industry into corporations run by members of the Nazi Party.

The War on Business​

Peter Temin wrote about this in Soviet and Nazi Economic Planning, stating:

Both governments reorganized industry into larger units, ostensibly to increase state control over economic activity. The Nazis reorganized industry into 13 administrative groups with a larger number of subgroups to create a private hierarchy for state control. The state could therefore direct a firm’s activities without acquiring direct ownership of enterprises. The pre-existing tendency to form cartels was encouraged to eliminate competition that would destabilize prices.

The Nazis, ironically, called this reorganization “privatization,” although the owners of these corporations were either removed from board positions and replaced by Nazi Party members or sold out and became Nazi Party members. They included IG Farben and the Junkers airplane factory. IG Farben was a chemical company founded in 1925 by Carl Bosch and Carl Duisberg, who were both Jewish, and had a capitalization of around a billion marks by 1926. By 1938, all of the company’s Jewish workers had been purged and the supervisory board replaced by Nazis (see Joseph Borkin’s book The Crime and Punishment of I.G. Farben).

IG Farben was a clear example of the reorganization of industry the Nazis undertook for their benefit. Sybille Steinbacher, a professor of Holocaust studies, wrote about the public-private partnership in her book Auschwitz, stating:

Otto Ambros and IG Farben director Fritz ter Meer held a board meeting in Berlin with Carl Krauch who was not only a member of the board of directors of IG Farben, but also a member of the circle of industrialists around Reichsfurhrer-SS known as Himmler’s “Circle of Friends.”

After the Nazis took power, this kind of cooperation was common. Private businesses became merely public entities, and industrialists who resisted the Nazi commissars and their policies were removed from their positions and their businesses seized.

Junkers airplane factory did not fare much better, according to Temin, who wrote:

Prof. Junkers of the Junkers airplane factory refused to follow the government’s bidding in 1934. The Nazis thereupon took over the plant, compensating Junkers for his loss. This was the context in which other contracts were negotiated.

This Nazi war on business left industrialists and other businessmen worried that they would have their livelihoods stolen from them, as Günter Reimann explains in The Vampire Economy.

Reimann quotes a letter from a German businessman to an American businessman:

The difference between this and the Russian system is much less than you think, despite the fact that officially we are still independent businessmen.

Yes, They Were Socialists: How the Nazis Waged War on Private Property | John Kennedy

When the average person thinks of the Nazis, what often comes to mind is World War II, the Holocaust, and rousing speeches of hate.

mises.org

 

[2aguy]

Neither Mises nor Hayek called the Nazis left wing.

Now...I give you Hitler himself:

That is the point when I saw two dangers approaching. Previously, I did not truly understand their names or their importance to the German people’s existence. Their names were Marxism and Jewry. - Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf


This is sufficiently illustrated by the absurdity with which they are treated by the left. One lets them talk and laughs at them. But a man who in this world does not succeed in being hated by his adversaries, seems to me of little value as a friend. Therefore, the friendship of these people was not only of no value for our young movement, but even harmful. -Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf


And here Hitler talks about tards who think he's a leftist:

How often we shouted with laughter at these stupid bourgeois cowards, in the face of the intelligent guessing at our origin, our intentions and our goal !

We chose the red color of our posters after exacting and thorough reflection, in order to provoke the leftists by this, to bring them to indignation and to induce them to come to our meetings, if only to break them up, so that in this way we were at least enabled to speak to these people. - Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf


Only an actual brain damaged retard could read Mein Kampf and walk away thinking Hitler was a leftist. You obviously have never read it.

Moron....they called them socialists.......

 

[2aguy]

So...yeah. Hitler was a leftist.

Yeah, he was.......

Read A Pile Of Top Nazis Talking About How They Love Leftist Marxism

The Nazis were leftists. This statement is blasphemy to the academic-media complex, since everyone knows the Nazis were degenerate right-wingers fueled by toxic capitalism and racism. But evidence Adolf Hitler’s gang were men of the left, while debatable, is compelling.
The dispute on Nazi origins resurfaced through the confluence of brawling alt-right and antifa fringe movements and recent alternative histories by Dinesh D’Souza and others. The vitriol and lack of candor it produces from supposedly fact-driven academics and media is disturbing, if unsurprising. They stifle dissent on touchy subjects to maintain their narrative and enforce cultural hegemony.

However uncomfortable to opinion shapers, alternative views of the Third Reich exist and were written by the finest minds of their time. Opinions from the period perhaps carry more weight because they are unburdened by the aftermath of the uniquely heinous Nazi crimes.
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Also, Adolf Hitler Loved Karl Marx
It wasn’t only theoretical. Hitler repeatedly praised Marx privately, stating he had “learned a great deal from Marxism.” The trouble with the Weimar Republic, he said, was that its politicians “had never even read Marx.” He also stated his differences with communists were that they were intellectual types passing out pamphlets, whereas “I have put into practice what these peddlers and pen pushers have timidly begun.”

It wasn’t just privately that Hitler’s fealty for Marx surfaced. In “Mein Kampf,” he states that without his racial insights National Socialism “would really do nothing more than compete with Marxism on its own ground.” Nor did Hitler eschew this sentiment once reaching power. As late as 1941, with the war in bloom, he stated “basically National Socialism and Marxism are the same” in a speech published by the Royal Institute of International Affairs.

Nazi propaganda minister and resident intellectual Joseph Goebbels wrote in his diary that the Nazis would install “real socialism” after Russia’s defeat in the East. And Hitler favorite Albert Speer, the Nazi armaments minister whose memoir became an international bestseller, wrote that Hitler viewed Joseph Stalin as a kindred spirit, ensuring his prisoner of war son received good treatment, and even talked of keeping Stalin in power in a puppet government after Germany’s eventual triumph. His views on Great Britain’s Winston Churchill and the United States’s Franklin Delano Roosevelt were decidedly less kind.

Nazi and Communist Hatred of Each Other Was Brotherly
Despite this, there’s a persistent claim that Nazis and communists hated each other, and mention that the Nazis persecuted socialists and oppressed trade unions. These things are true, but prove little. The camps’ hatred stemmed from familiarity. It was internecine, the nastiest kind.

The Nazis and communists were not only in a struggle for street-war supremacy, but also recruits. These recruits were easily turned, because both sides were fighting for the same men. Hayek recalls

 

[alang1216]

It is exactly what the socialists of both types do....both national and international socialists.

So when Reagan cut taxes he wasn't attempting to influence the economy? Not my recollection.

 

[alang1216]

The democrats are just as racist as they were back then, they simply use racists of all skin colors in their party now...to take power....racism is the core belief of the democrat party.

Should I believe what you say, without evidence I might add, or look at the fact that Blacks and most minorities tend to favor the Dems. Maybe the GOP is the party of White folk by sheer accident? Should I believe you or my lying eyes? Tough call.

GOP Members of Congress

 

[alang1216]

So...yeah. Hitler was a leftist.

Yeah, he was.......

Curious that Nazis don't think Hitler was a leftist. Nazi-friendly organizations, Nazi symbols, and Nazi gestures were in evidence at the disastrous Charlottesville event, whose unfortunate title was not “Unite the Left,” but “Unite the Right.”

 

[2aguy]

So when Reagan cut taxes he wasn't attempting to influence the economy? Not my recollection.

Wow.....that is dumb.....

Again.....explain how this is the same as simply cutting taxes and allowing people to keep the money they earned.........

The Nazis were socialists, and it showed in many of the policies they implemented after coming to power in 1933. First, like the Soviets, the Nazis initiated a war on private property. Not surprisingly, property rights were severely curbed by National Socialism in the name of public welfare.

How did the National Socialists combat private property in Germany? The first step came shortly after the Nazis took control, when they abolished private property. Article 153 of the Weimar constitution guaranteed private property, with expropriation only to occur within the due process of the law, but this article was nullified by a decree on February 28, 1933.

With this, the new National Socialist government had complete control of private property in Germany. While they did not take complete control of the lands like the Bolsheviks did in Russia in 1917, the Nazis issued quotas for industries and farms, and later they reorganized all industry into corporations run by members of the Nazi Party.

The War on Business​

Peter Temin wrote about this in Soviet and Nazi Economic Planning, stating:

Both governments reorganized industry into larger units, ostensibly to increase state control over economic activity. The Nazis reorganized industry into 13 administrative groups with a larger number of subgroups to create a private hierarchy for state control. The state could therefore direct a firm’s activities without acquiring direct ownership of enterprises. The pre-existing tendency to form cartels was encouraged to eliminate competition that would destabilize prices.

The Nazis, ironically, called this reorganization “privatization,” although the owners of these corporations were either removed from board positions and replaced by Nazi Party members or sold out and became Nazi Party members. They included IG Farben and the Junkers airplane factory. IG Farben was a chemical company founded in 1925 by Carl Bosch and Carl Duisberg, who were both Jewish, and had a capitalization of around a billion marks by 1926. By 1938, all of the company’s Jewish workers had been purged and the supervisory board replaced by Nazis (see Joseph Borkin’s book The Crime and Punishment of I.G. Farben).

IG Farben was a clear example of the reorganization of industry the Nazis undertook for their benefit. Sybille Steinbacher, a professor of Holocaust studies, wrote about the public-private partnership in her book Auschwitz, stating:

Otto Ambros and IG Farben director Fritz ter Meer held a board meeting in Berlin with Carl Krauch who was not only a member of the board of directors of IG Farben, but also a member of the circle of industrialists around Reichsfurhrer-SS known as Himmler’s “Circle of Friends.”

After the Nazis took power, this kind of cooperation was common. Private businesses became merely public entities, and industrialists who resisted the Nazi commissars and their policies were removed from their positions and their businesses seized.

Junkers airplane factory did not fare much better, according to Temin, who wrote:

Prof. Junkers of the Junkers airplane factory refused to follow the government’s bidding in 1934. The Nazis thereupon took over the plant, compensating Junkers for his loss. This was the context in which other contracts were negotiated.

This Nazi war on business left industrialists and other businessmen worried that they would have their livelihoods stolen from them, as Günter Reimann explains in The Vampire Economy.

Reimann quotes a letter from a German businessman to an American businessman:

The difference between this and the Russian system is much less than you think, despite the fact that officially we are still independent businessmen.

Yes, They Were Socialists: How the Nazis Waged War on Private Property | John Kennedy​

When the average person thinks of the Nazis, what often comes to mind is World War II, the Holocaust, and rousing speeches of hate.

mises.org

 

[2aguy]

Curious that Nazis don't think Hitler was a leftist. Nazi-friendly organizations, Nazi symbols, and Nazi gestures were in evidence at the disastrous Charlottesville event, whose unfortunate title was not “Unite the Left,” but “Unite the Right.”

They call themselves nazis...they are pretty stupid humans.......they like the racism, don't understand what the socialists were all about...you doofus.

 

[2aguy]

Should I believe what you say, without evidence I might add, or look at the fact that Blacks and most minorities tend to favor the Dems. Maybe the GOP is the party of White folk by sheer accident? Should I believe you or my lying eyes? Tough call.

GOP Members of Congress

And tell us about that in the next few years as blacks and hispanics run away from the democrat party...finally realizing the democrats are racists and evil.

 

[2aguy]

Should I believe what you say, without evidence I might add, or look at the fact that Blacks and most minorities tend to favor the Dems. Maybe the GOP is the party of White folk by sheer accident? Should I believe you or my lying eyes? Tough call.

GOP Members of Congress

You mean these blacks and hispanics?

USA Today poll: GOP getting 40% of the Hispanic vote and 21% of Black vote

hotair.com

 

[Billiejeens]

I had the same fucked up “education” and was mislead to believe Hitlers Socialism was “right wing” ideology

Of course
A left-wing education system is going to do that.

 

[alang1216]

They call themselves nazis...they are pretty stupid humans.......they like the racism, don't understand what the socialists were all about...you doofus.

The No True Scotsman fallacy?

 

[2aguy]

The No True Scotsman fallacy?

Nope....they see the racism, don't understand the socialism....or they do, and like all socialists, understand that to push their racism, they need to control the government.

 

[alang1216]

And tell us about that in the next few years as blacks and hispanics run away from the democrat party...finally realizing the democrats are racists and evil.

So they should forget about the GOP recent past but remember the history of the Dems from generations ago. Let's see how that goes.

 

[2aguy]

So they should forget about the GOP recent past but remember the history of the Dems from generations ago. Let's see how that goes.

What recent past, you doofus? The democrats used their blm and antifa brown shirts to burn, loot and kill in black neighborhoods before the last election....the democrats are pushing racial segregation in every aspect of our society, they never gave up the racism, they simply incorporated racists of all skin colors into their party, as each racist group tries to gain power in the party.