Americans have had over 200 years to prove democracy can work, but...

[BackAgain]

You need to read the link to update your knowledge. It will also gives you a background to America's constitution as opposed to what you want it to be.

Nope. The article is wrong. So my knowledge on this subject matter requires zero updating.

What you need is to understand what the framers newest ops and what they sought to achieve. You have been badly misled.

 

[Captain Caveman]

Nope. The article is wrong. So my knowledge on this subject matter requires zero updating.

What you need is to understand what the framers newest ops and what they sought to achieve. You have been badly misled.

No, you have representative democracy in your framework. Your knowledge is flawed.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Your comparison to AOC to Marjorie Taylor, Greene is offensive. One woman is a complete clown, and the other is a well educated, well spoken, and thoughtful liberal.

AOC is not an “extremist” as the Banana Republicans, keep claiming she is. You keep referring to the Squad extremists, but the progressive wing of the Democratic Party is hardly “extreme”.

Look at you, making his point for him - and thinking the exact opposite.
Well done.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Congrats, but I suspect not.

Spoiled and Demanding, Sheltered and Ignorant

Rightist chumps are still denying that Liberalism is a power-play concocted by the sons of the plutocrats who claim to be "Conservative."

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

As far as as I heard would be happy the very most democracies in the world if they had such a stable and also such a dynamic political system as we have in Germany.

Sieg Allah!

Germany is a colony of Islam.

 

[Dragonlady]

Look at you, making his point for him - and thinking the exact opposite.
Well done.

Can you link to anywhere where AOC has said anything as ridiculous as “Jewish space lasers cause wild fires”, or asked the budget director about how much Covid money was spent on Drag Queen Story Hour? Do you have any clips of AOC suggesting that all Republicans are paedophiles as Marjorie Tayloe Green stated bluntly on 60 minutes?

AOC saved her District from being destroyed by the locating of the Amazon Headquarters there, saving one of the last working class areas in NYC and New York taxpayers from shelling out $9 billions to a corporation that pays no income taxes.

 

[zaangalewa]

Sieg Allah!

From which planet do you come?

Germany is a colony of Islam.

Aha. Good to know. "Allahu akbar" (God is greater) how Paulus and Meister Eckhart said.

Und plötzlich weißt du: Es ist Zeit, etwas Neues zu beginnen und dem Zauber des Anfangs zu vertrauen.
(And suddenly you know: It's time to start something new and trust the magic of the beginning.)
Meister Eckhart

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Perhaps one of the United States of America is your country - or you need another name for the USA.

We Call Your Country "Germany" Because of Your Many Germs

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

We the People are, ultimately, the nation’s sovereigns; and that’s why we get the main say in who makes our laws and who administers and enforces our laws.

Weewee on the People

 

[zaangalewa]

The Sage of Main Street

I said to you:
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"republic" - res publica - rulership is a public issue.

"tyranny" - one single absolute ruler decides
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You answered "I disagree".

Explain this answer please.

 

[Dragonlady]

America is the name of my country.

No it isn't. "The United States" is the name your county. "America" is the name of your continent. The United States of America being the full name.

 

[zaangalewa]

We Call Your Country "Germany" Because of Your Many Germs

You call your brain "b-rain" because of the sad lonely rain-drop in it.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

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Democracy is three wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. It needs to fail.



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Pure democracy is evil, as you point out. No human rights, Mob rule.

A constitutional republic allows the sheep
To be armed when the wolves come to try and violate his rights.

 

[Orangecat]

“A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years. These nations have progressed through this sequence: From bondage to spiritual faith; From spiritual faith to great courage; From courage to liberty; From liberty to abundance; From abundance to selfishness; From selfishness to apathy; From apathy to dependence; From dependence back into bondage.”​

Alexander Fraser Tytler​

 

[Dragonlady]

Interesting. But wrong. We are absolutely a republic because the founders and framers were very intent to avoid the problems inherent in a democracy. We are, in fact, a Constitutional republic as an additional step to avoid democracy.

If you wish to contend that our Constitutional republic has some elements of a democracy as a part of it, I’d stipulate to that. We the People are, ultimately, the nation’s sovereigns; and that’s why we get the main say in who makes our laws and who administers and enforces our laws.

But to go from that premise to the conclusion that we are a “democracy,” is absolutely false.

Bullshit.

Democracy is defined as a system of government by the whole population or all the eligible members of a state, typically through elected representatives.

Republic is defined as a state in which supreme power is held by the people and their elected representatives, and which has an elected or nominated president rather than a monarch.

What's the difference???? Be precise.

 

[Dragonlady]

“A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years. These nations have progressed through this sequence: From bondage to spiritual faith; From spiritual faith to great courage; From courage to liberty; From liberty to abundance; From abundance to selfishness; From selfishness to apathy; From apathy to dependence; From dependence back into bondage.”​

Alexander Fraser Tytler​

What do the economic musings of a man who died more than 200 years ago in Scotland, have to do with the 21st Century American economy.

"Alexander Fraser Tytler, Lord Woodhouselee, was a Scottish lawyer, writer, and professor. Tytler was also a historian, and for some years was Professor of Universal History, and Greek and Roman Antiquities, in the University of Edinburgh. Tytler's other titles included Senator of the College of Justice, and George Commissioner of Justiciary in Scotland. Tytler was a friend of Robert Burns, and prevailed upon him to remove lines from his poem Tam o' Shanter which were insulting to the legal and clerical profession"

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

“Democracy” will likely never work.

America is a Constitutional Republic. It had a chance to work until she allowed a ton of foreign nationals onto her shores and allowed them to bring their anti-American ideals, religions, and cultures with them. They then tried to turn America from a Republic into a Democracy. She's been swirling down the proverbial toilet ever since.

For Their Own Self-Interest, Elitists Lie About What a Democracy Leads To

In a democracy, the overwhelming White majority in 1964 would have had the right to vote on the Civil Rights for the Uncivilized laws and the Come One, Come All immigration laws. Everybody knows they would have blocked this minimization of the only freedom-loving race. So the demographics today wouldn't be unAmerican enough to have any power, since minorities in a democracy only have the rights the majority is willing to give them. Those who preach that such exclusion is unfair belong to the minority that sponsors and controls all other minorities, that is, the 1%.

Under a republic, the ruling class flunkies it empowers can ignore the will of the majority until it gets the slave-race majority it wants.

 

[Orangecat]

What do the economic musings of a man who died more than 200 years ago in Scotland, have to do with the 21st Century American economy.

Is that supposed to be a question?
What do the mewlings of an illiterate crone from Canada have to do with the 21st Century American economy?

 

[Unkotare]

.... "America" is the name of your continent. ......

You're not an American. You wouldn't understand. America is my country.

 

[SaxonJackson]

For Their Own Self-Interest, Elitists Lie About What a Democracy Leads To

In a democracy, the overwhelming White majority in 1964 would have had the right to vote on the Civil Rights for the Uncivilized laws and the Come One, Come All immigration laws. Everybody knows they wouldn't have blocked this minimization of the only freedom-loving race. So the demographics today wouldn't be unAmerican enough to have any power, since minorities in a democracy only have the rights the majority is willing to give them. Those who preach that such exclusion is unfair belong to the minority that sponsors and controls all other minorities, that is, the 1%.

Under a republic, the ruling class flunkies it empowers can ignore the will of the majority until it gets the slave-race majority it wants.

I don't believe I fully get the point you're attempting to make. I hope, though, that you aren't conflating America's Republican form of government with the Marxists currently gripping the reins of power. They are clearly ignoring the Founder's intent and are circumventing the rule of law, i.e., the Constitution.