Americans broadly support Ukraine no-fly zone, Russia oil ban -poll.

[Mindful]

WASHINGTON, March 4 (Reuters) - A broad bipartisan majority of Americans think the United States should stop buying Russian oil and gas and work with NATO to set up "no-fly zones" to protect Ukraine from Russian air strikes, according to a Reuters/Ipsos poll completed on Friday.

The poll, conducted Thursday and Friday, suggests that U.S. outrage is growing over Russia's invasion of Ukraine, which in recent days has increasingly involved Russian bombing of urban areas.

EXCLUSIVE Americans broadly support Ukraine no-fly zone, Russia oil ban -poll

A broad bipartisan majority of Americans think the United States should stop buying Russian oil and gas and work with NATO to set up "no-fly zones" to protect Ukraine from Russian air strikes, according to a Reuters/Ipsos poll completed on Friday.

www.reuters.com

 

[Devils_Advocate]

Simple way to end all this strife is to send a billion people into the Ukraine to rid the country of Putin goons and afterwards march onto Moscow and hang Pootin upside down and hand every Ukrainian a baseball bat to hit him with and then keep on going to Iran, North Korea and China!

 

[Thunderbird]

A no-fly zone would mean direct military conflict between NATO and Russia. We avoided such conflict during the Cold War for a very good reason: it could easily lead to WW III and hundreds of millions dead.

Have people lost their minds?

 

[SweetSue92]

WASHINGTON, March 4 (Reuters) - A broad bipartisan majority of Americans think the United States should stop buying Russian oil and gas and work with NATO to set up "no-fly zones" to protect Ukraine from Russian air strikes, according to a Reuters/Ipsos poll completed on Friday.

The poll, conducted Thursday and Friday, suggests that U.S. outrage is growing over Russia's invasion of Ukraine, which in recent days has increasingly involved Russian bombing of urban areas.

EXCLUSIVE Americans broadly support Ukraine no-fly zone, Russia oil ban -poll

A broad bipartisan majority of Americans think the United States should stop buying Russian oil and gas and work with NATO to set up "no-fly zones" to protect Ukraine from Russian air strikes, according to a Reuters/Ipsos poll completed on Friday.

www.reuters.com

Like Tucker said last night, from one Moral Panic right into another. Yes, it's horrid what Putin is doing to civilians in Ukraine. No one can separate horrid from what should we DO about it anymore. You'd think they might have learned something from PEOPLE WILL DIE panic over Covid, but nope. Straight headlong into the next panic.

We are a ridiculous society.

 

[SweetSue92]

A no-fly zone would mean direct military conflict between NATO and Russia. We avoided such conflict during the Cold War for a very good reason: it could easily lead to WW III and hundreds of millions dead.

Have people lost their minds?

Easy answer

Yes

 

[Mindful]

it could easily lead to WW III and hundreds of millions dead.

That’s the concern.

 

[Mindful]

Like Tucker said last night, from one Moral Panic right into another. Yes, it's horrid what Putin is doing to civilians in Ukraine. No one can separate horrid from what should we DO about it anymore. You'd think they might have learned something from PEOPLE WILL DIE panic over Covid, but nope. Straight headlong into the next panic.

We are a ridiculous society.

I’m back in Europe now, after a long time away.

Getting the perspective from here. There are mixed calls for a no fly zone.

 

[SweetSue92]

I’m back in Europe now, after a long time away.

Getting the perspective from here. There are mixed calls for a no fly zone.

One thing is sure: Europe should handle it. Most Europeans have been decrying America's involvement in the world's affairs for decades now. Goody. Now it's your turn, Europe. Your continent, your problem. Step up.

 

[surada]

A no-fly zone would mean direct military conflict between NATO and Russia. We avoided such conflict during the Cold War for a very good reason: it could easily lead to WW III and hundreds of millions dead.

Have people lost their minds?

How Joseph Stalin Starved Millions in the Ukrainian Famine | HISTORY

Cruel efforts under Stalin to impose collectivism and tamp down Ukrainian nationalism left an estimated 3.9 million dead.

www.history.com

 

[PredFan]

Under no circumstances should we be a part of any no-fly zone over Ukraine. The only option we have is to choke Russia financially. Unfortunately, very little of the rest of the world is willing to do that.

 

[SweetSue92]

How Joseph Stalin Starved Millions in the Ukrainian Famine | HISTORY

Cruel efforts under Stalin to impose collectivism and tamp down Ukrainian nationalism left an estimated 3.9 million dead.

www.history.com

Yes, it was horrid. Communism usually is.

Let Europe take the lead. Oh wait: they've spent all their money on lavish social programs and have none left over for military spending?

Huh.

 

[surada]

Yes, it was horrid. Communism usually is.

Let Europe take the lead. Oh wait: they've spent all their money on lavish social programs and have none left over for military spending?

Huh.

So why did the US chase Saddam out of Kuwait?

 

[Mindful]

One thing is sure: Europe should handle it. Most Europeans have been decrying America's involvement in the world's affairs for decades now. Goody. Now it's your turn, Europe. Your continent, your problem. Step up.

But you’re in NATO, aren’t you? And you still have considerable military personnel stationed at various bases around Europe.

I don’t hear any mention of American involvement here.

 

[Mindful]

Unfortunately, very little of the rest of the world is willing to do that.

I heard calls today for boycotts of Starbucks, MacDonalds, even IKEA.

In Russia.

 

[SweetSue92]

So why did the US chase Saddam out of Kuwait?

Remember at the time we had been attacked on OUR homeland. With the presumption of WMD. That turned out to be false, but that was the basis.

 

[SweetSue92]

But you’re in NATO, aren’t you? And you still have considerable military personnel stationed at various bases around Europe.

I don’t hear any mention of American involvement here.

We are the moneybags of NATO, sadly. "Considerable military personnel" is an understatement. What is the German military now? The French military? Does any Scandinavian nation even HAVE a military?

 

[surada]

Remember at the time we had been attacked on OUR homeland. With the presumption of WMD. That turned out to be false, but that was the basis.

Nope. Saddam invaded Kuwait in August of 1990.

 

[Thunderbird]

How Joseph Stalin Starved Millions in the Ukrainian Famine | HISTORY

Cruel efforts under Stalin to impose collectivism and tamp down Ukrainian nationalism left an estimated 3.9 million dead.

www.history.com

Stalin was one of the worst dictators in human history. Communists dictators have murdered tens of millions of their own citizens.

The Black Book of Communism — Stéphane Courtois, Nicolas Werth, Jean-Louis Panné, Andrzej Paczkowski, Karel Bartošek, Jean-Louis Margolin, Mark Kramer

This international bestseller plumbs archives in the former Soviet bloc to reveal the actual, practical accomplishments of Communism around the world: terror, torture, famine, mass deportations, and massacres. The authors show how and why, wherever the ideology of Communism was established, it...

www.hup.harvard.edu

This war is just what the genocidal CCP wants.

 

[surada]

Stalin was one of the worst dictators in human history. Communists dictators have murdered tens of millions of their own citizens.

The Black Book of Communism — Stéphane Courtois, Nicolas Werth, Jean-Louis Panné, Andrzej Paczkowski, Karel Bartošek, Jean-Louis Margolin, Mark Kramer

This international bestseller plumbs archives in the former Soviet bloc to reveal the actual, practical accomplishments of Communism around the world: terror, torture, famine, mass deportations, and massacres. The authors show how and why, wherever the ideology of Communism was established, it...

www.hup.harvard.edu

This war is just what the genocidal CCP wants.

Stalin also tried to exterminate the Chechens.

 

[strollingbones]