American extreme - leftist Discovers extreme Harsh Reality of Life in Moscow Socialist " paradise " (1933-37) // "Behind the Urals"

[Litwin]

"That's it, no work for me here. I am going to USSR. Surely they'll have something for me to do"​

Soviets: "Oh you'll get work. All the work you'd ever want"​

Laughs in old - Bulgarian Language​

 

[White 6]

"That's it, no work for me here. I am going to USSR. Surely they'll have something for me to do"​

Soviets: "Oh you'll get work. All the work you'd ever want"​

Laughs in old - Bulgarian Language​

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Thank goodness the picture set me straight. Misread Socialist paradise title "Harsh Realities of Moscow Socialist Paradise, Behind the Urinals", as in "the best living for all is a hole in the wall."

 

[Litwin]

Behind the Urinals"

very realistic development for American goofy who moved to ussr to find a job ...
and i wrote : " paradise "

 

[Moonglow]

very realistic development for American goofy who moved to ussr to find a job ...
and i wrote : " paradise "

It didn't bother this American who went to the USSR to find his fortune and a job...

Fred C. Koch - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Nor did it bother him to work with the Nazis.

 

[Litwin]

It didn't bother this American who went to the USSR to find his fortune and a job...

Fred C. Koch - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Nor did it bother him to work with the Nazis.

you know that Koch´s family got paid in human flesh, Mostly Ukrainian flesh, right ?...

 

[whitehall]

An old Bulgarian? The experiences of an old Bulgarian? Stalin wasn't just an ally of the aging and dying FDR, he was a close friend that FDR called "Uncle Joe" often at the expense of Churchill.

 

[Litwin]

old Bulgarian

your Muscovite language is a Mongol - old Bulgarian language.

Russians are ‘White Mongols,’ Chinese Commentator Says

" According to scholar Tjundeshev, Batu Khan was the true founder of "Russian" statehood. China, India and Turkey also descend from the Tatars. For him, “it is so difficult for Russians to learn to be free; they always need a strong hand to rule them." Russia’s isolationism is also Tatar in nature. Foreigners are seen as enemies. Telegram, the instant messaging service, has been blocked. "
The Mongol invasion was the reason Muscovy formed. question: why is so few monuments in Muscovy to its creators, Mongol czars ?


" Muscovy continued sending money and valuable goods (Pay taxes) to different parts of the Horde just to make peace with militant Tatars. This was called “pominki” (appr. ‘memorables’) in Russian.

Russia paid pominki to different former Horde dynasties until 1685. Formally, the tributes were banned by Peter the Great only in 1700, according to the Treaty of Constantinople between the Russian Tsardom and the Ottoman Empire. The Khan of Crimea, one of the last of the Khans at the time, and the Ottoman Empire’s vassal, was also the last to whom Russia paid. The treaty said:

“...Because the State of Moscow (Muscovy ) is autonomous and free – the tribute that annually was given to the Crimean Khans until now, henceforward shall not be given from His Holy Greatness of the Tsar of Moscow, nor from his descendants…”

It is very symbolic that Peter, the last great tsar of Moscow and the future first Emperor of Russia, signed this treaty in 1700, the first year that began in Russia not from the 1st of September, like in ancient Russia, but from January 1st – just like in Europe.

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" It is wrong to think that Mongol-Tatars invaded Russia as a single state, because the state actually formed as a response to the invasion, to resist and overthrow it. It was Peter the Great who formally ended Russia’s tributes to the Khans.

Knyaz’ Yaroslav II of Vladimir was poisoned by Güyük Khan’s wife. At the age of 67, Knyaz’ Mikhail of Chernigov was executed in the capital of the Golden Horde (Mongol khaganate) for refusing to worship Mongol idols. Knyaz’ Mikhail of Tver had his heart ripped out in the same capital, the chronicle says. The Russian population was forced to pay substantial tributes, and Russian princes were only allowed to rule their duchies by the permission of the Khan of the Golden Horde. That’s how it was under the Mongol rule, or, as we call it in Russia, the Tatar-Mongol Igo (Yoke)."

 

[Litwin]

"Alexander Nevsky"'s helmet, helmet has Arabic writing on it, saying something like "With Allah's help" and "Speedy victory".

Muscovy the successor of Mongol Empire - YouTube
A history programme filmed by NHK Japan.
English translation:
0:02 The Golden Horde in "Russia" was the longest lasting regime of the four Mongolian Khanates, however the internal conflicts weakened Golden Horde in 15th century. then, an empire centered in Moscow started its rise, "Russian" Empire, was like a brother to the Horde.
0:28 Uspensky sobor, Cathedral of the Dormition in "Russia" . The place of the "Russian" enthronement ceremony. The influence of 250 years Mongol domination was there.
0:36 An era of Ivan IV (1530-84), about 1/3 of the "Russian" aristocracy was the blood-line from Mongol.
1:02 To fight with the outer-power of Mongol (Crimean Khanate), he began with making the aristocracy as an ally. He did one curious plan.
1:32 He resigned his throne to Simeon Bekbulatovich who was a direct descendant of Genghis Khan.
2:14 Ivan succeeded getting the inner-power of Mongol. The next year, he went back to the state by given back from Simeon.
2:38 By the ceremony, Ivan IV became a successor of Mongol, strengthened its power to have "Russia".
2:56 The "Russian" Empire expanded to Siberia and Central Asia by using the authority of Mongol.
3:29 Unlike the faded Kiev, the new power Moscow rose.
3:50 Ivan I (?-1340) approached Hahn & got a right to rule Rus. Moscow was developed dramatically in his days.
4:09 In 12nd century before Mongol entered, Moscow was a small village in woods. The center of it [Kremlin] was a simple wooden fort.
4:31 During Ivan I, the development increased dramatically. The wooden became stone etc, 2/3 scale of today was seen.
4:56 Moscow achieved wealth and power under the Mongols. Kremlin grew with it. In 15th century, the scale was nearly today. It's been the center of Russian Politics, Military affairs and Economy. Some say, that the word "Kremlin" was from the Mongolian word "Klemm", which means "fortress".
5:38 Ironically, Kremlin and today's center "Moscow" were developed under the power of Mongol.
5:56 Many churches of Russian Orthodox Church in Kremlin were started to be built during the days of Ivan I. The days under Mongol, also the days that the Russian Orthodox Church developed.
6:31 "Russian" Orthodox Church prayed for Hahn & was given the special right "Tax Free". When Mongol entered, the abbey was less than 100. It became 270 after it. Mongol took in [Moscow & Russian Orthodox Church] and progressed its force on Rus.
7:11 It didn't reach the north-west at first. It gradually went in. Moscow & "Russian" Orthodox Church helped it. There was a symbolic event in Pskov in 1327. One of the feudal lords in Rus ran into Pskov, on a charge of rising in revolt against Mongol.
8:08 According to the Russian chronicle, he was an influential person as a rival with Ivan I. His name was Aleksandr. Khan of Mongolia made the allied forces with Ivan I of Moscow & went Pskov. The people of Pskov took a posture to fight to support Aleksandr. At the very moment about to fight, a surprising thing happened. The Russian Orthodox Church took sides with pagan, Mongol. It expelled Aleksandr and people of Pskov. It had an overwhelming effect. Aleksandr had to escape further from Pskov.
8:58 Moscow & Russian Orthodox Church cooperated with Mongolia. 2 big power that led Russia later, increased its power in the Tatar-Mongol Yoke.
9:18 Karl Marx (1818-83) said like this, "Moscow, promoted under Mongol-Tatar. The bloody dishonor of the Mongol slavery became the cradle of Moscow. The current Russia is an extension of it".
9:48 The Mother Capital of Rus (Kiev) was shadowed. The region "Ukraine" was born under Mongolian days. The origin was "outside" to mean "Frontier".
9:49 An Ukraine man talking, "If you look at Russians, you will see Mongol features on thier faces, Mongols and Russians were mixed with each others, Russians are not Slavic..."
10:39 The old city Krakow, Ukraine. There's a festival carried out every year in June. The starring figure is a man wearing a costume of the Mongolian General + riding on the horse.He walks dancing in a parade with an orchestra, all day long. He taps people on the shoulder with a wooden hammer. A happiness is said to visit by it.

 

[whitehall]

What do you think? Was the four term U.S. President involved in the atrocities in Russia?

 

[Litwin]

What do you think? Was the four term U.S. President involved in the atrocities in Russia?

 

[francoHFW]

An old Bulgarian? The experiences of an old Bulgarian? Stalin wasn't just an ally of the aging and dying FDR, he was a close friend that FDR called "Uncle Joe" often at the expense of Churchill.

FDR tried to get along with Stalin but was hardly his friend. He realized that britain's day was through as a superpower.

 

[francoHFW]

What do you think? Was the four term U.S. President involved in the atrocities in Russia?

Hell no

 

[francoHFW]

that is not socialism except in its purest dictatorial form. Socialist parties in democracies are always for fair capitalism and democracy and always have been, and the communist parties not. The socialist parties won and the communist parties disappeared along with the Soviet union's support. Only English speaking countries conflate socialism and communism until they're at the point of total confusion. You cannot have a serious conversation about socialism in English speaking countries because of 100 years of savage capitalist propaganda. Works great!

 

[whitehall]

FDR tried to get along with Stalin but was hardly his friend. He realized that britain's day was through as a superpower.

Stalin was closer to FDR than Churchill was.

 

[francoHFW]

Stalin was closer to FDR than Churchill was.

Highly debatable to say the least. He was leaving Churchill in the dust a bit because he knew that Stalin was all important. Also unfortunately quite the Stone wall.