America First

[Fort Fun Indiana]

You are correct...Trump ran on spending money on the US, not rebuilding the rest of the world.

Yeah, those infrastructure and healthcare plans he ran on sure look awesome now! Wait... Where are they?

 

[rightwinger]

Spot on Mac. Trump’s America First was just an empty slogan. While Trump was touting America First, his tax plan encouraged American companies to invest overseas. While Trump was touting American First, Chinese and Russian influence and power grew at the expense of American global leadership.
Biden’s slogan should be America Strong. That is what our new President is doing. Bringing America back into the forefront of global leadership where she belongs.

Also, I wonder how many of these people have ever been in a position of leadership for a large, successful company.

There, you are trained (regularly) that leadership is not about you personally, it's about what you can motivate and inspire others to do. And that includes jumping in, being engaged, contributing and getting your hands dirty. That's how you're judged.

I think most of these people who want America to hide don't know what true leadership is.

The way the EU has been illegally supporting airbus shows how they think that the game should be played.


They are willing to break the law to get their companies sales and their people jobs, at our expense.


That is ONE example where they got caught. It shows that they are pursuing a policy and a mindset far more aggressive than Trump's America First, and they have been doing so, all along. For decades.

Oh, so that's your excuse for relinquishing our position as Leader of the Free World?

Xi thanks you, no doubt.

China and Russia want to see the Western alliance in disarray

Trump delivered

If our friends are so offended by the idea of an American President having a policy of looking out for AMERICANS, then they are not our allies, and maybe never were.

Alliances don’t work like that
It is not always one side always wins

We give something, they give something
We all win

Show me where Trump said that we have to always win.

He complained like a little bitch every time America was expected to give anything.

Trump had no concept of what diplomacy is. He can’t understand mutual interest

He wanted them to pay their fair share of mutual defense, and he pushed A LITTLE on trade.


You people are just filthy liars.

Ever think we pay too much rather than them paying too little?
How about we drop our military expenditure to their percentage of GDP?

Sure. I would be fine with that. We would have to reconsider our international alliance system to reflect our reduced abilities.


BUT, until then, if we are going to be the leader of NATO, expending our allies to carry their fair share of the cost, is completely reasonable.

Germany is around 700 miles from Russia while we are thousands of miles away

If Germany feels threatened, they can invest more, they don’t

 

[BrokeLoser]

He wanted them to pay their fair share of mutual defense, and he pushed A LITTLE on trade.


You people are just filthy liars.

Indeed. Such an incredible monster!

The world is so used to US being their bitches, that just a little pushback and they had a hissy fit for four years.

Mac1958 believes “America First” is halting the construction of a wall with the sole purpose of protecting Americans, he believes “America First” is throwing a million new illegals in the laps of the American taxpayer...He believes “America First” is crushing high paying union jobs by halting the construction of an oil pipeline, he believes “America First” is taking America from being energy independent to energy dependent almost overnight.
Mac believes “America First” is a feeling he gets based on the words spoken a certain way by the executive....He doesn’t realize that “America First” is policy....policies CERTAIN to improve the quality of life for AMERICANS.

An “America First” President can be easily identified with a quick glance at his domestic policies. Which of Almost Dead Joes domestic actions scream “America First”?

 

[L.K.Eder]

Spot on Mac. Trump’s America First was just an empty slogan. While Trump was touting America First, his tax plan encouraged American companies to invest overseas. While Trump was touting American First, Chinese and Russian influence and power grew at the expense of American global leadership.
Biden’s slogan should be America Strong. That is what our new President is doing. Bringing America back into the forefront of global leadership where she belongs.

Also, I wonder how many of these people have ever been in a position of leadership for a large, successful company.

There, you are trained (regularly) that leadership is not about you personally, it's about what you can motivate and inspire others to do. And that includes jumping in, being engaged, contributing and getting your hands dirty. That's how you're judged.

I think most of these people who want America to hide don't know what true leadership is.

The way the EU has been illegally supporting airbus shows how they think that the game should be played.


They are willing to break the law to get their companies sales and their people jobs, at our expense.


That is ONE example where they got caught. It shows that they are pursuing a policy and a mindset far more aggressive than Trump's America First, and they have been doing so, all along. For decades.

^queefs about airbus, ignores boeing.

the wto doesn't, though.

WTO rules against US over Boeing subsidies – DW – 03/28/2019

The US failed to end Boeing subsidies even after the WTO ruled such measures illegal, according to the trade body. The EU declared "final victory" in the massive trade spat, but the bloc also faces issues over Airbus.

www.dw.com

The way that states compete with tax breaks is a problem, and a valid issue for the EU to raise, BUT, it does not reflect a national, or international policy of benefiting our citizens and corporations at the expense of our supposed friends.

lol. pretzel logic at its finest.

you whine about the EU doing what the US is doing as well. do you expect the EU or everyone but the USA to succumb to your exceptionalism? grow up.

The policy of Washington state is a policy to get the plant to be in Washington State. It is not a national policy of benefitting American manufacturers and workers at the expense of Europeans.


Their AIRBUS policy IS.

get the fuck outta here with that bullshit.

trying to blame washington state. lol, as if it was relevant. and true.

"In 2012 the WTO ruled that the United States had granted massive subsidies to Boeing in violation of WTO rules. Between 1989 and 2006 Boeing benefited from NASA, US Department of Defence and Washington State/Kansas subsidies totalling over $5 billion. The subsidies allowed Boeing to sell its aircraft more cheaply, to the detriment of Airbus."

Our massive and ever growing trade deficits strongly indicate that that, if true, is NOT an example of a national policy, but more of an exception to the rule.

AND ever if it were true, at the worst, we are just doing what they are doing, just mostly failing.


There is no way to spin it, that what TRump wanted was... wrong in any way.

this is clearly above your paygrade.

NOpe. As an American Voter, expecting my President, ie my employee, to represent my interests in national policy, is exactly my "pay grade".

My point stands. There is not way to spin it, that what Trump actually wanted, was wrong in any way.

nice tantrum.

YOur inability to refute my point, is noted.


Our massive and ever growing trade deficits strongly indicate that that, if true, is NOT an example of a national policy, but more of an exception to the rule.

AND ever if it were true, at the worst, we are just doing what they are doing, just mostly failing.


There is no way to spin it, that what TRump wanted was... wrong in any way.

you don't have a point. like a toddler, and like your immature troll trump, you are led by your feelings, of what you WANT. this is not accepted in the real world outside of your bubble.
if a mature person wants to accomplish something, and has to rely on partners/opponents, he needs to take the needs of the partners/opponents into account. you can cry about what you WANT as long as you wish, partners/opponents will not care. art of the deal, my ass. what a collosal failure you twerp adore.

 

[L.K.Eder]

Spot on Mac. Trump’s America First was just an empty slogan. While Trump was touting America First, his tax plan encouraged American companies to invest overseas. While Trump was touting American First, Chinese and Russian influence and power grew at the expense of American global leadership.
Biden’s slogan should be America Strong. That is what our new President is doing. Bringing America back into the forefront of global leadership where she belongs.

Also, I wonder how many of these people have ever been in a position of leadership for a large, successful company.

There, you are trained (regularly) that leadership is not about you personally, it's about what you can motivate and inspire others to do. And that includes jumping in, being engaged, contributing and getting your hands dirty. That's how you're judged.

I think most of these people who want America to hide don't know what true leadership is.

The way the EU has been illegally supporting airbus shows how they think that the game should be played.


They are willing to break the law to get their companies sales and their people jobs, at our expense.


That is ONE example where they got caught. It shows that they are pursuing a policy and a mindset far more aggressive than Trump's America First, and they have been doing so, all along. For decades.

Oh, so that's your excuse for relinquishing our position as Leader of the Free World?

Xi thanks you, no doubt.

China and Russia want to see the Western alliance in disarray

Trump delivered

If our friends are so offended by the idea of an American President having a policy of looking out for AMERICANS, then they are not our allies, and maybe never were.

Alliances don’t work like that
It is not always one side always wins

We give something, they give something
We all win

Show me where Trump said that we have to always win.

He complained like a little bitch every time America was expected to give anything.

Trump had no concept of what diplomacy is. He can’t understand mutual interest

He wanted them to pay their fair share of mutual defense, and he pushed A LITTLE on trade.


You people are just filthy liars.

Ever think we pay too much rather than them paying too little?
How about we drop our military expenditure to their percentage of GDP?

Sure. I would be fine with that. We would have to reconsider our international alliance system to reflect our reduced abilities.


BUT, until then, if we are going to be the leader of NATO, expending our allies to carry their fair share of the cost, is completely reasonable.

Germany is around 700 miles from Russia while we are thousands of miles away

If Germany feels threatened, they can invest more, they don’t

germany feels "threatened" by the US using germany as staging ground for their war machine and as hospital for their grunts. thx for defending us, all you exceptional americans.

 

[Mac-7]

I wouldn't be so proud of hiding from the world and handing it over to China.

Thats not true

Trump was the first western leader to stand up to china

Now four years later the libs in America and europe are starting to wake up

 

[rightwinger]

I wouldn't be so proud of hiding from the world and handing it over to China.

Thats not true

Trump was the first western leader to stand up to china

Now four years later the libs in America and europe are starting to wake up

Trump provoked a trade war that hurt farmers and American consumers

 

[Mac1958]

He wanted them to pay their fair share of mutual defense, and he pushed A LITTLE on trade.


You people are just filthy liars.

Indeed. Such an incredible monster!

The world is so used to US being their bitches, that just a little pushback and they had a hissy fit for four years.

Mac1958 believes “America First” is halting the construction of a wall with the sole purpose of protecting Americans, he believes “America First” is throwing a million new illegals in the laps of the American taxpayer...He believes “America First” is crushing high paying union jobs by halting the construction of an oil pipeline, he believes “America First” is taking America from being energy independent to energy dependent almost overnight.
Mac believes “America First” is a feeling he gets based on the words spoken a certain way by the executive....He doesn’t realize that “America First” is policy....policies CERTAIN to improve the quality of life for AMERICANS.

An “America First” President can be easily identified with a quick glance at his domestic policies. Which of Almost Dead Joes domestic actions scream “America First”?

By your definition, none.

 

[HappyJoy]

The virus is less lethal now.

14 days to flatten the curve, we've learned a lot about this virus since back then. I'm not sure why anyone would think we haven't.

.

It still has a 99.5% survivability rate ... And is as lethal as it has been.
I think you meant to say that less people are catching the virus.

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Less people are catching it (thanks to people who got vaccinated and wore masks) and we have better medications to deal with people who do get it. As I've said, we've learned a lot about the virus since it began.

 

[Mac-7]

sanctions that cost the US taxpayer $48 billion just for US farmers,

Thats how china plays the game

Ask Australia

They dared demand accountability from china over the wuflu and their farmers were punished too

Thats how a dominant mercantilist nation treats banana republics

It should serve as a wakeup call to globalists but they have already become subservient to their master in peking

 

[Mac-7]

ground for their war machine and as hospital for their grunts. thx for defending us, all you exceptional americans.

So you are a german?

You dont have to have Americans in your retched country if you dont want them

Just tell your fuhrer to tell us to leave

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

By your definition, none.

The one where Joe opens up the border to incoming waves of illegal immigrants that are just turned
lose in the nation's interior to become burdens on society and future democrat voters?

The one where Joe cancelled the American XL pipeline but gave his buddy Vlad the green light for the
Nordic Stream pipe line as a great source of money for Russia?

The one where Joe has failed to press China on it's accountability for the covid pandemic that has
plagued the world? Or even Chinese pirating of American technology and patents?

How about where Joe has placed female athletes in a second tier unequal playing field when it comes
to enabling transgender males to compete against them?

Where is the leadership? Where is the accountability? How has Feckless Joe led the way for anyone?
It's okay. I realize you have no reply you can honestly make. And you don't make honest replies
anyway.

 

[rightwinger]

The one where Joe opens up the border to incoming waves of illegal immigrants that are just turned
lose in the nation's interior to become burdens on society and future democrat voters?

umm......Where has Biden opened up the border?
There is no surge in immigration

 

[rightwinger]

The one where Joe cancelled the XL pipeline but gave his buddy Vlad the green light for the
Nordic Stream pipe line as a great source of money for Russia?

Small potatoes compared to the millions of good paying jobs in Biden’s infrastructure plan
Millions of jobs that Republicans oppose

 

[rightwinger]

How about where Joe has placed female athletes in a second tier unequal playing field when it comes
to enabling transgender males to compete against them?

Where did Biden do that?

 

[irosie91]

I wouldn't be so proud of hiding from the world and handing it over to China.

Thats not true

Trump was the first western leader to stand up to china

Now four years later the libs in America and europe are starting to wake up

Trump provoked a trade war that hurt farmers and American consumers

ok----maybe---- I do not understand economics. How did Trump hurt the
farmers? It is TRUE that food prices are OUTTA SIGHT

 

[irosie91]

Can you locate that golden INFRASTRUCTURE PLAN?

 

[rightwinger]

I wouldn't be so proud of hiding from the world and handing it over to China.

Thats not true

Trump was the first western leader to stand up to china

Now four years later the libs in America and europe are starting to wake up

Trump provoked a trade war that hurt farmers and American consumers

ok----maybe---- I do not understand economics. How did Trump hurt the
farmers? It is TRUE that food prices are OUTTA SIGHT

Farmers export a good portion of their crops, a large portion going to China
China retaliated by placing tariffs on agriculture

 

[L.K.Eder]

ground for their war machine and as hospital for their grunts. thx for defending us, all you exceptional americans.

So you are a german?

You dont have to have Americans in your retched country if you dont want them

Just tell your fuhrer to tell us to leave

wow, thanks for the sage advice. why did i not think of that easy trumpsolutionTM?

 

[irosie91]

I wouldn't be so proud of hiding from the world and handing it over to China.

Thats not true

Trump was the first western leader to stand up to china

Now four years later the libs in America and europe are starting to wake up

Trump provoked a trade war that hurt farmers and American consumers

ok----maybe---- I do not understand economics. How did Trump hurt the
farmers? It is TRUE that food prices are OUTTA SIGHT

Farmers export a good portion of their crops, a large portion going to China
China retaliated by placing tariffs on agriculture

ok and what did that do to the farmers? GLUT them with soybeans?