America Doesn't Have The Moral Justification To Enter Into the Israel/Iran War!

[Billiejeens]

Desert Stupid was an abuse of presidential power. The pretext were lies. There no "Weapons of Mass Destruction". The Shrub and Dead-Eye Dick(less) lied from the beginning. Ray-Gun sent Rummy to Iraq to make Whiskey Handshake Deal with a Iraqi Officer named Saddam Hussein went to become Dictator of that country. Saddam used chemical agents create mustard gas that he used on Iran and his people. Saddam never nuclear weapons and Iraqi oil never paid for the fucked up war.

You can't be more than 12.
Do your parents know that you are on their computer?

 

[krichton]

The U.S. has the moral justification and the imperative to save the world from nuclear war. If it means the use of a single bunker buster bomb so be it.

So you want America to enter a war with Iran under the guise of getting rid of weapons of mass destruction. Gee, I wonder where I've heard that one before.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Equating Iraq intervention under Bush with Iran intervention with Trump is a fallacy of false equivalency.

Not one of you have made a worthy argument for it.

 

[0311]

Trump Shuts Down Tulsi Gabbard On Iran; "She's Wrong'.

Trump Shuts Down Tulsi Gabbard On Iran: 'She's Wrong'

The president and his director of national intelligence have offered different assessments of Iran's nuclear capabilities.

www.huffpost.com

He appointed her D.N.I. and now he is calling her liar for telling truth. He is a Five-Star Fool.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

He can be so very, very foolish.

But on this I think he is right.

 

[JoeB131]

Neither the Russians nor Chinese are in a position to intervene effectively... both they and we know that already.

Besides... both Russia and China have only cozied-up to Iran for narrow-purpose reasons... they don't like the mullahs either.

Neither of them are willing to risk millions of their own people just to keep an unpopular Muslim theocracy on its feet.

Aren't they? China has people to spare.

No chance of Russia or China intervening. Nothing nin it for them.

That's the kind of thinking that leads to wars that spiral out of control.

 

[IM2]

We live in the ONLY COUNTRY that has ever used a nuke. We don't have the moral standing to stop anyone else from having one until we destroy all of ours.

 

[JoeB131]

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/07/16/iran-plot-assassinate-trump-00168830

https://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/op-ed/article278522569.html

Oh, so you don't have any proof, just sensationalistic articles.

 

[JoeB131]

Equating Iraq intervention under Bush with Iran intervention with Trump is a fallacy of false equivalency.

Not one of you have made a worthy argument for it.

Actually, it's just like the Iraq intervention, but even dumber.

 

[tahuyaman]

The maniac is Netanyahu.
He is the one responsible for the continuing illegal home confiscations in the West Bank, the starvation blockade, the ongoing genocide, etc.

No one can allow Iran to be illegally attacked.
It is not just China and Russia who will need to retaliate, but Pakistan, India, France, Germany, Turkey, etc.

Iran is the primary source of Middle East instability. That’s why Iran has no regional allies.

 

[tahuyaman]

We live in the ONLY COUNTRY that has ever used a nuke. We don't have the moral standing to stop anyone else from having one until we destroy all of ours.

That’s exactly why we have the moral authority to do everything possible to prevent that from happening again.

That Genie doesn’t go back into the bottle.

Only an idiot thinks the world will be a safer place if we eliminate our nuclear arsenal. That would make the world a more dangerous place.

 

[Kondor3]

The maniac is Netanyahu.

He's not a maniac. He's a stone-cold calculating national leader.

He is the one responsible for the continuing illegal home confiscations in the West Bank

Israelis have been crowding-out the remaining Palis on the West Bank since 1967; long before he took power.

, the starvation blockade, the ongoing genocide, etc.

There is no genocide taking place in Gaza.

The Gazans (and their militant action-group) Hamas are merely losing the war that they began on October 7, 2023.

The Gazans can end this in a single day.

Surrender.

Unconditionally.

Nothing else will signify.

Hamas made the mistake of embeddings its military assets in schools, mosques, hospitals, residential areas, etc...

Hiding behind the skirts of their women and children like the chicken$hit pu$$ie$ that they truly are...

If the inflicting of collateral civilian casualties continues then it is the choice of the Gazans themselves...

No one can allow Iran to be illegally attacked.

Illegally?

The Iranians will not be worried about Legality once they have nuclear-weapon-tipped ballistic missiles...

Me... I'd rather have an impotent ICC warrant out for my arrest then to allow my people to suffer atomic annihilation...

Just because I was too cowardly or timid to act while there was still time or because I listened to bad advice like yours...

It is not just China and Russia who will need to retaliate, but Pakistan, India, France, Germany, Turkey, etc.

China and Russia will not do jack-$hit... they have no love for the mullahs and realize that the mullahs are martyrdom-insane.

They will kvetch and piss and moan but in the final analysis they will not intervene but will breath a sigh of relief behind closed doors.

 

[Kondor3]

Aren't they? China has people to spare.

Why would they want to even try? No... they have no love for the mullahs... who hate them almost as much as us.

That's the kind of thinking that leads to wars that spiral out of control.

No... military weakness... and Neville Chamberlain -style gullibility and appeasement... are the most common cause, in modern times...

 

[tahuyaman]

No one can allow Iran to be illegally attacked…

Israel attacked Iran because Iran was using its proxies to attack Israel.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

No, it is not at all.

Actually, it's just like the Iraq intervention, but even dumber.

 

[Billiejeens]

Aren't they? China has people to spare.




That's the kind of thinking that leads to wars that spiral out of control.

We have some to spare
Look in a mirror.

 

[JoeB131]

Why would they want to even try? No... they have no love for the mullahs... who hate them almost as much as us.


No... military weakness... and Neville Chamberlain -style gullibility and appeasement... are the most common cause, in modern times...

Actually, Neville caused WWII by writing the Polish Colonels a blank check.

That caused Hitler to sign an agreement with Stalin instead of fighting a single-front war that would have been over in six weeks.


China is playing a long game. While we drop bombs, they build roads. Roads that move Chinese products into new markets.

 

[Nostra]

Actually, it's just like the Iraq intervention, but even dumber.

What is?

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

The mullahs will nuke Tel Aviv, JoeB, if they have the bomb. You understand?

 

[The Irish Ram]

Iran wants to sell nuclear bombs. They will become a bomb factory, and everyone they now support, Hamas, Hezbollah and the rest, are all going to aim them in our direction. Russia and China may join in.