All The News Anti-Palestinian Posters Will Not Read Or Discuss

[Hollie]

The U.S. Media Has A Palestine Problem​

What's the problem?

Link?

 

[RoccoR]

RE: All The News Anti-Palestinian Posters Will Not Read Or Discuss
SUBTOPIC: Border Disputes
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

There is no "border agreements" (per say) with the Terrorist Group known as the Islamic Resistance Movement (HAMAS)

Where is that border agreement?

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For the most part, the boundary the distinguishes the line between the Gaza Strip and Israel is a "demarcation line" which is evidenced by markers on the ground - that being the security barrier. (Israeli Sovereignty on one side of the cairns.

I understanding that you like to ask for things that do not exist, as a means to derail the discussion. Under the 1969 Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties, you can understand that there can be no treaty with the Palestinians because the UN Deputy Secretary for Legal Affairs ruled that their was no "state" Palestine prior to December 2012.

This has been explained to you many times. And of course you know that HAMAS is a designated terrorist organization by over 30 countries in Europe.

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A Delimitations denotes description of the alignment in a treaty or other written source, or by means of a line marked on a map or chart.

A Demarcation denotes the means by which the described alignment is noted, or evidenced, on the ground, by means of cairns of stones, concrete pillars, beacons of various kinds, cleared roads in scrub, and so on. p146

Parry & Grant Encyclopaedic Dictionary of International Law, Copyright ˝ 2009 by Oxford University Press, Inc. p146

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

The Israelis didn't need a border agreement with any of the Islamic terrorist franchises to establish sovereign control of territory extending to, you know, a border.

Here's your homework. What nations did Israel sign border agreements with?

Duck!

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: All The News Anti-Palestinian Posters Will Not Read Or Discuss
SUBTOPIC: Border Disputes
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

There is no "border agreements" (per say) with the Terrorist Group known as the Islamic Resistance Movement (HAMAS)


(COMMENT)
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For the most part, the boundary the distinguishes the line between the Gaza Strip and Israel is a "demarcation line" which is evidenced by markers on the ground - that being the security barrier. (Israeli Sovereignty on one side of the cairns.

I understanding that you like to ask for things that do not exist, as a means to derail the discussion. Under the 1969 Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties, you can understand that there can be no treaty with the Palestinians because the UN Deputy Secretary for Legal Affairs ruled that their was no "state" Palestine prior to December 2012.

This has been explained to you many times. And of course you know that HAMAS is a designated terrorist organization by over 30 countries in Europe.

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A Delimitations denotes description of the alignment in a treaty or other written source, or by means of a line marked on a map or chart.

A Demarcation denotes the means by which the described alignment is noted, or evidenced, on the ground, by means of cairns of stones, concrete pillars, beacons of various kinds, cleared roads in scrub, and so on. p146

Parry & Grant Encyclopaedic Dictionary of International Law, Copyright ˝ 2009 by Oxford University Press, Inc. p146

Most Respectfully,
R

The UN says that the Palestinians have the right to territorial integrity.

Palestinians have been expected to negotiate their borders since Oslo.

The UN's 2012 is based on their recognition not existence. The UN cannot create states. They can only recognize states that already exist.

 

[Hollie]

Duck

You ducked any response. So, who's quacking?

What nations did Israel sign border agreements with? There's no doubt something on youtube.

 

[Hollie]

The UN says that the Palestinians have the right to territorial integrity.

Palestinians have been expected to negotiate their borders since Oslo.

The UN's 2012 is based on their recognition not existence. The UN cannot create states. They can only recognize states that already exist.

The UN says a lot of things. Would you care to lecture us on territorial integrity?

Oslo is dead, remember?

Lecture on the Treaty of Lausanne inventing the ''state of pal'istan'' in 1924. That's a hoot.

 

[P F Tinmore]

You ducked any response. So, who's quacking?

What nations did Israel sign border agreements with? There's no doubt something on youtube.

None with Palestine.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

None with Palestine.

No nation has a border agreement with Palestine.
Several have agreements with Israel.

 

[Hollie]

None with Palestine.

Correct. How does any nation sign treaties of any kind with a ''state of Pal'istan'' that doesn't exist?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Correct. How does any nation sign treaties of any kind with a ''state of Pal'istan'' that doesn't exist?

Palestine is special.

They have all the agreements and never signed any of them.

 

[RoccoR]

RE: All The News Anti-Palestinian Posters Will Not Read Or Discuss
SUBTOPIC: Border Disputes
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,
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BLUF: The longer the Arab Palestinians entangle the issues and twist the principle issues for permanent negotiation, the more difficult and time consuming it will take for the Arab Palestinians to achieve any meaningful progress.

The UN says that the Palestinians have the right to territorial integrity.

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No one is denying the Arab Palestinians that "RIGHT." Territorial Integrity is very much like the RIGHT at painting your car. Sure, you can paint your car, IFF you actually have a car... But you do not have the RIGHT to paint any car that is parked on the street.

Palestinians have been expected to negotiate their borders since Oslo.

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Israel is NOT an obstacle to any amicable dispute resolution process, that helps d reach an appropriate solution to their disputed. The Arab Palestinians can request to sit down with the Israelis. I do not see any reason why the Israelis would not answer the call. But, I also see trouble in accepting a call to the table IF the Arab Palestinians make requirements that must be accomplished before talks can begin.

The UN's 2012 is based on their recognition not existence. The UN cannot create states. They can only recognize states that already exist.

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OK, just enlighten me as to the territory you consider to be rightfully subject to the control of the Arab Palestinian Government. And just which government is the Palestinian Government?
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Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

No one is denying the Arab Palestinians that "RIGHT." Territorial Integrity is very much like the RIGHT at painting your car. Sure, you can paint your car, IFF you actually have a car...

Palestine already had territory defined by international borders.

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: All The News Anti-Palestinian Posters Will Not Read Or Discuss
SUBTOPIC: Border Disputes
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,
.
BLUF: The longer the Arab Palestinians entangle the issues and twist the principle issues for permanent negotiation, the more difficult and time consuming it will take for the Arab Palestinians to achieve any meaningful progress.


(COMMENT)

No one is denying the Arab Palestinians that "RIGHT." Territorial Integrity is very much like the RIGHT at painting your car. Sure, you can paint your car, IFF you actually have a car... But you do not have the RIGHT to paint any car that is parked on the street.


(COMMENT)

Israel is NOT an obstacle to any amicable dispute resolution process, that helps d reach an appropriate solution to their disputed. The Arab Palestinians can request to sit down with the Israelis. I do not see any reason why the Israelis would not answer the call. But, I also see trouble in accepting a call to the table IF the Arab Palestinians make requirements that must be accomplished before talks can begin.


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OK, just enlighten me as to the territory you consider to be rightfully subject to the control of the Arab Palestinian Government. And just which government is the Palestinian Government?
.

Most Respectfully,
R

1. Reaffirms the inalienable rights of the Palestinian people in Palestine, including:

UN General Assembly Resolution 3236 and UN General Assembly Resolution 3237

That's what it says.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Palestine is special.

They have all the agreements and never signed any of them.

Nothing on borders, though.

What are they required to sign?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Nothing on borders, though.

What are they required to sign?

Exactly. No borders with anyone. Almost like they don't exist, eh?

 

[Hollie]

1. Reaffirms the inalienable rights of the Palestinian people in Palestine, including:

UN General Assembly Resolution 3236 and UN General Assembly Resolution 3237

That's what it says.

The competing Islamic terrorist tribes can't seem to manage getting past their feuds and civil wars.

Consider instructing the UN general assembly to issue another opinion.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Exactly. No borders with anyone. Almost like they don't exist, eh?

Who says that Palestine has no borders?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Who says that Palestine has no borders?

They've never had a border. Neither has Kurdistan.

 

[Hollie]

Who says that Palestine has no borders?

Working your way toward the nonsense claim that the ''state of pal'istan'', which you insist was invented in 1924 by the Treaty of lausanne somehow invented ''pal'istanians''?

That's so silly.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Israel is NOT an obstacle to any amicable dispute resolution process, that helps d reach an appropriate solution to their disputed.

Israel disputes documented facts.

Are the Palestinians to negotiate away their inalienable rights?