All The Excuses In the World

[sealybobo]

Oh shut up.

There are real things happening now like Afghanistan and Chicago.

Today I rode my bike in Jackson,Michigan. There was one section everyone said don’t go. I find it mind blowing we have places in America 2021 that are unsafe at 10am in the morning. Only black communities. Then they’ll say we have an unjustified fear of black men.

 

[MizMolly]

I'd bet that if no one bought slaves there would have been no slavery. It is the buyers that create the market, not unlike illegal drug users. If there is a demand, it will be satisfied, one way or another, and that is where the blame resides.

IM2 blames the drug dealers instead of the users because whites sell drugs to the blacks. I guess the same mindthought huh?

 

[alang1216]

IM2 blames the drug dealers instead of the users because whites sell drugs to the blacks. I guess the same mindthought huh?

I'll stand behind what I wrote. You'll have to ask IM2 about what IM2 thinks.

 

[asaratis]

I'll stand behind what I wrote. You'll have to ask IM2 about what IM2 thinks.

She might also ask IM2 who sold George Floyd his drugs.

You're absolutely right about the supply and demand for anything on the market. Suppliers exist only to satisfy the demand.

 

[MizMolly]

Here they are, excuses used by racist whites because they cannot deal with the truth.

“Africans sold their own people as slaves” is a stock argument White Americans use when the subject of slavery comes up.

First, simply as an argument of fact it fails:

• Africa was not a country. Africans were not selling “their own”, they were selling their enemies, just as the Greeks and Romans once did. Africa, then as now, was made up of different countries. They were no more selling “their own” than, say, “Europeans” were killing “their own” during the Holocaust.

And it overlooks a few other things:

• Most African countries did not sell slaves and some even fought against it. But because Europeans back then could control the supply of guns there was little Africans could do to stop it.
• The Transatlantic slave trade was on a much greater scale than anything the Africans or anyone else ever did in the history of slavery. Countries were destroyed and millions died. Over 12 million were sold in less than 400 years, something so huge that it changed the genetic map of the world.
• The Transatlantic slave trade was racist. The African slave trade, for all of its other ills, was not that. Neither was the Greek and Roman slave trade. So slavery in places like Haiti, Barbados and America was much more cruel.

As a moral argument it fails too:

• It uses what I call the Arab Trader argument: it excuses an evil of one’s own past by finding the same sort of evil done by others. Whites sold slaves, but Africans and Arab traders did too! Which, morally speaking, is at the same level as an eight-year-old saying, “He did it too!” when caught doing something bad. We do not accept this argument from eight-year-olds, nor from bank robbers or wife beaters. “Africans did it too!” is no better.

But it is as a derailing argument that it comes into its own:
Its main purpose is to draw attention away from what whites did by turning the tables. That part of their past makes White Americans uncomfortable. But instead of facing up to it, they have built up defenses against it:

• Africans sold their own people as slaves.
• Africans are still selling slaves.
• Arab traders sold slaves too.
• Slavery goes back thousands of years.
• All races have practised slavery.
• Whites stopped slavery.
• My family never owned slaves.
• That was Ancient History.
• You are living in the past.
• Get over it!
• It was the times.
• Slavery did not make economic sense.
• Whites got to where they are by their own hard work
• Blacks are better off in America than in Africa
• Africans were savages.

And on and on.
Why not just face up to it? Because part of their sense of self worth is built on being white and how whites are better than everyone else, particularly blacks. But it is a huge lie, a lie that can only be maintained by not looking at their past – and present – squarely and honestly.

Africans sold their own people as slaves” really ?

“Africans sold their own people as slaves” is a stock argument White Americans use when the subject of slavery comes up. First, simply as an argument of fact it fails: Africa was not a country. Afr…

blackliberationlovenunity.wordpress.com

Blacks still sold other blacks. The truth makes you so butthurt. We aren’t denying that whites bought slaves, but you deny who they bought them from. For someone who claims so much pain happened after slavery, you sure post a lot of shit about slavery. What does posting shit that is not happening now accomplish? Nobody today is doing any of that today, contrary to your warped imagination.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Blacks still sold other blacks. The truth makes you so butthurt. We aren’t denying that whites bought slaves, but you deny who they bought them from. For someone who claims so much pain happened after slavery, you sure post a lot of shit about slavery. What does posting shit that is not happening now accomplish? Nobody today is doing any of that today, contrary to your warped imagination.

Not quite true. The slave market is booming in Libya since Obabboon and Killery trashed the place. Africans selling slaves. Does our illustrious poster give a shit about this? Since he doesn't have a chance of reaping any free money, in the form or reparations, out of this, those slaves mean nothing to him.

 

[JoeMoma]

First, simply as an argument of fact it fails:

• Africa was not a country. Africans were not selling “their own”, they were selling their enemies, just as the Greeks and Romans once did. Africa, then as now, was made up of different countries. They were no more selling “their own” than, say, “Europeans” were killing “their own” during the Holocaust.

So that makes the selling of slaves okay then. Thanks for letting us all know.

 

[1stNickD]

Here they are, excuses used by racist whites because they cannot deal with the truth.

“Africans sold their own people as slaves” is a stock argument White Americans use when the subject of slavery comes up.

First, simply as an argument of fact it fails:

• Africa was not a country. Africans were not selling “their own”, they were selling their enemies, just as the Greeks and Romans once did. Africa, then as now, was made up of different countries. They were no more selling “their own” than, say, “Europeans” were killing “their own” during the Holocaust.

And it overlooks a few other things:

• Most African countries did not sell slaves and some even fought against it. But because Europeans back then could control the supply of guns there was little Africans could do to stop it.
• The Transatlantic slave trade was on a much greater scale than anything the Africans or anyone else ever did in the history of slavery. Countries were destroyed and millions died. Over 12 million were sold in less than 400 years, something so huge that it changed the genetic map of the world.
• The Transatlantic slave trade was racist. The African slave trade, for all of its other ills, was not that. Neither was the Greek and Roman slave trade. So slavery in places like Haiti, Barbados and America was much more cruel.

As a moral argument it fails too:

• It uses what I call the Arab Trader argument: it excuses an evil of one’s own past by finding the same sort of evil done by others. Whites sold slaves, but Africans and Arab traders did too! Which, morally speaking, is at the same level as an eight-year-old saying, “He did it too!” when caught doing something bad. We do not accept this argument from eight-year-olds, nor from bank robbers or wife beaters. “Africans did it too!” is no better.

But it is as a derailing argument that it comes into its own:
Its main purpose is to draw attention away from what whites did by turning the tables. That part of their past makes White Americans uncomfortable. But instead of facing up to it, they have built up defenses against it:

• Africans sold their own people as slaves.
• Africans are still selling slaves.
• Arab traders sold slaves too.
• Slavery goes back thousands of years.
• All races have practised slavery.
• Whites stopped slavery.
• My family never owned slaves.
• That was Ancient History.
• You are living in the past.
• Get over it!
• It was the times.
• Slavery did not make economic sense.
• Whites got to where they are by their own hard work
• Blacks are better off in America than in Africa
• Africans were savages.

And on and on.
Why not just face up to it? Because part of their sense of self worth is built on being white and how whites are better than everyone else, particularly blacks. But it is a huge lie, a lie that can only be maintained by not looking at their past – and present – squarely and honestly.

Africans sold their own people as slaves” really ?

“Africans sold their own people as slaves” is a stock argument White Americans use when the subject of slavery comes up. First, simply as an argument of fact it fails: Africa was not a country. Afr…

blackliberationlovenunity.wordpress.com

And the USA was not a country when black people were selling black people to slave taders around the world. In fact within just a few generations of becoming a country hundreds of thousands of white people died, and several hundred thousands more were mutilated while fighting to end slavery here. Your absolute racism against white folks is disgusting. Look at what occurs on the continent of Africa today and how groups treat each other. All humans have the capacity to do bad things and many of them do. But you only point out white people like the despicable racist you are. Slavery still exists today and many people on the continent of Africa willingly participate in that trade. Then look to the nations of Asia today and see the teatment of people there. You should be ashamed of your selective outrage, but I know you are likely here not to air grievance, but to cause turmoil and hate to weaken our country. Your constant diatribes prove it. You make our race problems worse, not better.

 

[MizMolly]

If they are your friends and you think they see race like you do, then they are not capable of higher critical thinking.

No, if they see race as YOU do, they are incapable of higher thinking you dumb twit.