Are Americans really descended from Europeans?

[rupol2000]

Genetic data do not support this. on average, about 80% have roots in Siberia. This is the male haplogroup Q, the same as that of the Indians. The women's groups are all Asian too.
Only Canadians have European roots

 

[MisterBeale]

. . . and where do the genetic data of the Europeans come from?

 

[rupol2000]

. . . and where do the genetic data of the Europeans come from?

I think mainly from the data of companies that are engaged in sequencing for individual customers, they then get statistics.

 

[rupol2000]

This is also confirmed archaeologically. There are many traces of shamanism in America, rock art is similar to Siberian

 

[MisterBeale]

So this is genetic sequencing of the indigenous communities?

 

[rupol2000]

There is also evidence that the horse's homeland is North America. Therefore, the Aryan equestrian culture may have American roots.
And if so, then this just converges with the localization of Q in Asia, this is a place not far from Andronovo, from where the expansion of the war chariots of the ancient Aryans began

 

[Colin norris]

Genetic data do not support this. on average, about 80% have roots in Siberia. This is the male haplogroup Q, the same as that of the Indians. The women's groups are all Asian too.
Only Canadians have European roots

As we know there are hundreds of different countries represented. The bulk came as convicts and free settlers basically from the UK and Ireland.

 

[rupol2000]

So this is genetic sequencing of the indigenous communities?

As far as I understood, this is a general map of the distribution of Q in the world. In Siberia and Turkmenistan, there are no "indigenous communities", it's also on the map

 

[rupol2000]

As we know there are hundreds of different countries represented. The bulk came as convicts and free settlers basically from the UK and Ireland.

It turns out that most modern Americans do not come from these colonists.

 

[Colin norris]

It turns out that most modern Americans do not come from these colonists.

As it turns out, again you failed to do your research but jumped to a defense position because it's a little embarrassing. You know nothing about your country.

Britain Sent Thousands of Its Convicts to America, Not Just Australia

The joke about Australia is that it was founded by a bunch of criminals. And from 1788 until 1868, Britain did send roughly 164,000 convicts to the land

gizmodo.com

 

[lg325]

60% Scandinavian- 15% Asian- 10% Southeastern American Indian- 2% Spanish- 1% North African(Algeria) the rest British isles. Northern Ireland, Island of Crete. None on my genetic map in Siberia. Interesting study ,maybe if genetic tracing going back to prehistoric times would show a Siberian connection.

 

[MisterBeale]

As it turns out, again you failed to do your research but jumped to a defense position because it's a little embarrassing. You know nothing about your country.

Britain Sent Thousands of Its Convicts to America, Not Just Australia

The joke about Australia is that it was founded by a bunch of criminals. And from 1788 until 1868, Britain did send roughly 164,000 convicts to the land

gizmodo.com

Yeah, I'm not exactly sure where he is trying to go with this thread. . . but his whole thing about ancient pleistocene ancestors of horses in America? That's garbage. Their ancestors migrated out of the New World to become modern domesticated horses long before humans entered the new world.

Ancient DNA Clarifies the Evolutionary History of American Late Pleistocene Equids - Journal of Molecular Evolution

Hippidions are past members of the equid lineage which appeared in the South American fossil record around 2.5 Ma but then became extinct during the great late Pleistocene megafaunal extinction. According to fossil records and numerous dental, cranial, and postcranial characters, Hippidion and...

link.springer.com

 

[rupol2000]

As it turns out, again you failed to do your research but jumped to a defense position because it's a little embarrassing. You know nothing about your country.

lol This is objective data from natural science. The conclusions themselves follow, there is nothing to argue about, these are facts.

 

[Colin norris]

Yeah, I'm not exactly sure where he is trying to go with this thread. . . but his whole thing about ancient pleistocene ancestors of horses in America? That's garbage. Their ancestors migrated out of the New World to become modern domesticated horses long before humans entered the new world.

Ancient DNA Clarifies the Evolutionary History of American Late Pleistocene Equids - Journal of Molecular Evolution

Hippidions are past members of the equid lineage which appeared in the South American fossil record around 2.5 Ma but then became extinct during the great late Pleistocene megafaunal extinction. According to fossil records and numerous dental, cranial, and postcranial characters, Hippidion and...

link.springer.com

Whilst he's entitled to his opinion he's also entitled to own his mistakes.
He doesn't understand about DNA. It's not mentioned in the bible.

 

[Colin norris]

lol This is objective data from natural science. The conclusions themselves follow, there is nothing to argue about, these are facts.

Ok. Show the link where is says that exactly. See how good you are now.

 

[MisterBeale]

lol This is objective data from natural science. The conclusions themselves follow, there is nothing to argue about, these are facts.

Post the source where you acquired those images.

 

[rupol2000]

Post the source where you acquired those images.

This data is everywhere, there are simply no others. There is no data to contradict this, no data on the dominance of European in America. And there is no data on European mitochondrial DNA in America, except in Canada

Here's another

Phylogeography of human Y-chromosome haplogroup Q3-L275 from an academic/citizen science collaboration - BMC Ecology and Evolution

Background The Y-chromosome haplogroup Q has three major branches: Q1, Q2, and Q3. Q1 is found in both Asia and the Americas where it accounts for about 90% of indigenous Native American Y-chromosomes; Q2 is found in North and Central Asia; but little is known about the third branch, Q3, also...

bmcecolevol.biomedcentral.com

 

[rupol2000]

Give me proof that europeans haplogroups R I J E are dominate in America
(main is R)
Only Canada have it

 

[rupol2000]

By the way, the European R also comes from Asia, from about the same places as Q, these are sister groups from the common P. But the resettlement proceeded independently, and America was settled not from Europe, but from Asia through the Bering Strait.
And besides, Paleo-Siberian female genes are absent in Europe. That is, women in Europe are of Middle Eastern and Paleoeuropean descent, they are not associated with Asia at all.

 

[rupol2000]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5b/Y-Haplogroup_Paleolithic_Migrations.png/1200px-Y-Haplogroup_Paleolithic_Migrations.png