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there was an exit on one road that led straight to the impeachment super highway -----

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and it ended at the biden's front door.
I am talking to a Ukrainian who says that the corruption in Ukraine between The Obama Administration, NGOs run by Soros and others, and certain Russian Controlled companies goes a lot deeper than people know and goes all the way to Obama-Clinton and through The Podesta Group.

He said Gates and Manafort were scapegoats, knew too much and this is why they were dealt with and silenced. He also said they wanted to kill Manafort, but they had to choose between Manafort and Epstein, and since Epstein was ready to sing, they took him out instead. And you will never hear a peep from Manafort the rest of his life because he got the message loud and clear.

Sounds like a Plausible Theory or this guy actually does know something.
 
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Could or should the Senate turn the impeachment trial into a full-blown investigation of Democrat corruption involving Ukraine?

It seems to me that the underlying issue regarding President Trump's alleged "abuse of power" is whether or not his request for an investigation was based on legitimate grounds. If that corruption actually occurred, then he was justified in making that request. If not, remove him from office.

Anyone have a problem with that?
Honestly they could use Impeachment to Put Biden in Jail as the evidence against him is Damning and Irrefutable and Incontrovertible.

But they will do the right thing and bitch slap the Evil Dem's Weak Argument back to Hooker town where those whore belong.
 

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Could or should the Senate turn the impeachment trial into a full-blown investigation of Democrat corruption involving Ukraine?

It seems to me that the underlying issue regarding President Trump's alleged "abuse of power" is whether or not his request for an investigation was based on legitimate grounds. If that corruption actually occurred, then he was justified in making that request. If not, remove him from office.

Anyone have a problem with that?
No, not me. If ol'Trumpybear or the former Republicans had evidence of Joe or the Democrats corruption in general in the Ukraine, they wouldn't have resorted to Strong Arming the President of the Ukraine into making those Public Announcements.

I thought "Dick Breath" Graham was starting an investigation into his old friend already. How's that effort going? Besides ol'Trumpybear would rather rely on the Ghouliguys buddies.......
 
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Biden is done and we told you not to do this and now you are going to pay for it.

Buh Bye Biden!

Could or should the Senate turn the impeachment trial into a full-blown investigation of Democrat corruption involving Ukraine?

It seems to me that the underlying issue regarding President Trump's alleged "abuse of power" is whether or not his request for an investigation was based on legitimate grounds. If that corruption actually occurred, then he was justified in making that request. If not, remove him from office.

Anyone have a problem with that?
No, not me. If ol'Trumpybear or the former Republicans had evidence of Joe or the Democrats corruption in general in the Ukraine, they wouldn't have resorted to Strong Arming the President of the Ukraine into making those Public Announcements.

I thought "Dick Breath" Graham was starting an investigation into his old friend already. How's that effort going? Besides ol'Trumpybear would rather rely on the Ghouliguys buddies.......
 

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More facts:
Jan 11, 2017, Politico:
Ukrainian government officials tried to help Hillary Clinton and undermine Trump by publicly questioning his fitness for office. They also disseminated documents implicating a top Trump aide in corruption and suggested they were investigating the matter, only to back away after the election. And they helped Clinton’s allies research damaging information on Trump and his advisers, a Politico investigation found.
Ukrainian efforts to sabotage Trump backfire

The Clinton foundation is also linked directly to Ukrainian oligarchs:
Between 2009 and 2013, including when Mrs. Clinton was secretary of state, the Clinton Foundation received at least $8.6 million from the Victor Pinchuk Foundation, according to that foundation, which is based in Kiev, Ukraine. It was created by Mr. Pinchuk, whose fortune stems from a pipe-making company. He served two terms as an elected member of the Ukrainian Parliament and is a proponent of closer ties between Ukraine and the European Union.
http://clintonfoundationinvestigation.com/2016/08/15/ukraine/
 

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There is only one possible reason. The money was used to secretly finance Maiden and the war between Ukraine and Russia.

Devon "Heinz" Archer and Hunter Biden were the bagmen for the dirty money.

The proof is in the SARs that Treasury just released to the Senate
 
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Nice summary of Info. I find it suspicious Obama had Guccifer extradited and locked away, even though there is no evidence he saw any of Hillary's emails other than his claim to. I wish more in the news kept us up to date on what happened to him. Can somebody add a source on Obama sealing his Ukraine records? I don't doubt it but can't find anything about that on goolag. I've also read the Podesta's were granted immunity but by Mueller, after Obama was out of power, as part of helping to putting Manafort away. This info is also hard to find. Like Guccifer, Manafort was reportedly kept in solitary confinement and by some accounts chained to a wheelchair. Manafort went to prison for 'organizing a public relations campaign' which promoted Ukraine's image in the West from 2012 to 2014, but failed to register himself as foreign agent (FARA). The Podesta's and many others helped on this campaign but they were not prosecuted. Manafort is clearly a political prisoner punished for helping Trump to win a convention establishment Republicans were seeking to contest. Possibly both he and Guccifer know things which the guilty parties are desperate to keep hidden

The Foreign Agents Registration Act (FARA) is a United States law passed in 1938 requiring that agents representing the interests of foreign powers in a "political or quasi-political capacity" disclose their relationship with the foreign government and information about related activities. This law is arbitrary, is prosecuted rarely and seems susceptible for abuse. I suppose any comment promoting a foreign nations image could technically be interpreted as helping them in a quasi political capacity
 

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ALL ROADS LEAD TO UKRAINE

Don't forget one of the first things Trump did when he got in to office was do audits sending all these bureacrats in to a panicked state.

How did Hillary Clinton ‘lose’ $6 billion at the State Department?


One has to wonder why The Obama Administration, Clinton Campaign, Obama State Department, and Podesta Group were throwing so much money in to The Ukraine Elections to Oppose an Anti-Corruption Government that was trying to get elected there.

Obama did his dirty work through The Podesta Group, John Kerry, Hillary Clinton, John Brennan, Joe Biden, and The US Embassy In Ukraine, and funneled money in to a Ukraine NGO owned by Soros to oppose The Anti Corruption Candidates in Ukraine. Manfort and Gates were heavily used by The Obama Administration and Podesta Group for operations in Ukraine.

Then after that election when The Anti-Corruption Government was Elected, The Ukrainian Politicians Obama was supporting all fled to Russia.

Then Obama Seals his records on Ukraine citing Executive Privilege!

Then Obama had The Clinton Campaign be granted Full Blanket Immunity!

Then Obama had The Podesta Group be granted Full Blanket Immunity!


A Whistle Blower rats on Clinton about her secret Server which Obama denies knowledge of despite being caught in a lie when it was revealed he and his staff used aliases to communicate clandestinely with Clinton on that server so they could avoid FOIA and other types of discovery.

Comey Allows Clinton To Bleach Bit Her Server of 33,000 Emails!

The IT tech who Bleach Bitted Clinton's Server in violation of 2 Federal Court Orders is given immunity in exchange for testimony. He is asked 256 questions about his actions and about what he knows and despite having full immunity, pleads the 5th 256 Times!


Guccifer who says he and other countries did hack Clinton's Server despite The Obama Administration saying that never happened. Guccifer also says, he knows the original DNC Server was shipped to The Ukraine to hide it, and then an "edited copy" of the hard drive was given to Crowdstrike.

No Subpoena is ever issued on The DNC Server which The DNC Claimed was hacked and exposed Podesta's Emails. Only Crowdstrike looks at a copy of the VHD from the DNC Server and claims Russia hacked it. Weeks later, they had to retract nearly all of their statements as IT Techs all over the blogosphere called them out on all of their logical fallacies, errors, and technical nonsense. Lies in laymen terms.

Guccifer is arrested, extradited to The US and is locked up and is never heard from again.

Hillary Clinton Destroys 17 Electronic Devices!
Pakistani Hackers Hired by Clinton, Destroy dozens of hard drives as they flee The US!


Seth Rich gets murdered after uploading Podesta Emails to Assange.
The Remaining Hacker goes with Hillary Clinton to work on her campaign, despite being caught prying in to Congressional Files!


Comey sweeps all Clinton's Crimes Under the Rug.


The Obama Administration launches Russian Collusion COUP Hoax based on Russian Dirty Dossier he paid for that we now find out actually originated from The Ukraine and US Embassy. This Russian or Ukrainian Propaganda is later used falsely in FISA to get Wiretap Warrants on The Trump Campaign.

Gates and Manafort who worked for Obama and knew what was going on in The Ukraine, have their homes raided, are placed in solitary confinement, convicted on bogus charges and are never heard from again.

Julian Assange who says he got the Podesta Emails from Seth Rich is eventually Extradited, Locked Up and has never been hear from again!

Trump makes a phone call to congratulate The Ukraine President who ran on a Anti-Corruption Ukraine platform and then asks him to keep him informed about rumors of alleged corruption in Ukraine committed by The Obama Administration.


A Few weeks Later, Vindman a Ukrainian and his Brother who works for Adam Schiff, helps Adam Schiff and Eric Ciaramella write a Bogus Whistle Blower Report on a call to Ukraine!

Suddenly old footage of Joe Biden threatening The Ukraine to fire The Prosecutor Resurface as some people realize there is something fishy going on with this whole never ending attempt to remove President Trump.

Joe Biden:
"Fire The Prosecutor Investigating Hunter, or you aren't getting The Millions"!


President Trump shocks Schiff and releases The Transcript! contradicting The Whistle Blower Report


Schiff gets up in front of America and reads a completely Sham and Fictitious Manufactured Version of that phone call Transcript!

Adam Schiff who originally said everyone would get to interview The Whistle Blower shuts that down, says No, and then interrupts anyone who even dares to get close to revealing who The Whistle Blower is in testimony.

Schiff then has The IG Interview transcript which is critical of Schiff and The Whistleblower and seems to indicate Schiff lied about contact with The Whistleblower classified as "Intelligence" and refuses to allow The Trump Defense team to see that transcript. No one has seen it yet, and Schiff is refusing to turn it over.


The Pelosi Lead House Rushes to start an impeachment about The Ukraine phone call despite The Ukraine President telling The House, that their accusations are false. Adam Schiff refuses to release memos of his conversations with Vindman and The Whistle Blower, or The IGs testimony.

Hunter Biden refuses to comply with a Judges Order to turn over his Financial Records documenting his earnings at Burisma in his Child Support Case.

Joe Biden states he will refuse to comply with a Senate Subpoena to answer any questions about anything he knows about Ukraine or Burisma.


And here we are today.
I am sorry for my slow understanding, but you want to say that these 6 billion Hillary Clinton 'lost' as a state secretary were 'lost' in Ukraine?
 

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