All roads from Russia lead directly to the Democrats

[struth]

You never suggested. No, you've flat out stated it multiple times, and you just said it again.

Even the tactic of accusing others of doing what you're doing, is a Russian propaganda tool which Trump was taught to use against his enemies. Calling Clinton "Crooked Hillary" while Trump has been a one-man crime spree since long before he ran for office, and was in the middle of a multi-million fraud trial when he ran for President. Hillary Clinton has never been arrested or charged with any crimes much less convicted. Trump cannot say the same thing.

The Russian hacking of the DNC took place on the night after Donald Trump said "Russia, if you're listening". When the national press reacted to this remark with shock and outrage, Trump claimed it was a joke. No one was laughing. It reminded me of seeing a child about to swing a heavy stick at a very frightened playmate and when caught, the kid dropped the stick say "I was joking". Nobody was laughing, least of all the frightened playmate.

Clinton being a useful idiot doesn’t mean she did anything illegal per se

Yes, the russians hacked the dnc and exposed how corrupt it was, and how they conspired to undermine the 2016 primaries, and colluded with the media to help clinton

 

[Dragonlady]

The boom under Obama was due to drilling on private and state lands, not on US lands or offshore which he did all he could to choke off.

1. Obama cancelled leases on public lands where no drilling had taken place for 5 years, and re-sold many of those leases.

2. Drilling also increased on public lands as well. The percentage of oil coming from public lands increased by 25%, but there was so much drilling on private lands that the overall percentage of oil produced on public lands went from 20% of all production, to 15% of total production.

In a classic case of "figures never lie, but liars often figure", FOX News and the rightwing media touted headlines that the Obama Administration had decreased production on public lands, without noting that such decrease meant skyrocketing production on private lands had eclipsed production increases on public lands causing that shifting percentage, and told you that Obama was trying to "choke off" domestic production.

3. Geologists and oil industry experts have been reported as saying that the nearly all most promising sites for drilling on public lands, have already been drilled and few of the lands Obama took off the market were viable drilling sites in the first place. Something that the right wing media completely ignored.

4. When the drilling options were offered for sale in the Alaskan game reserves to much fanfare by the Trump Administration, there were no buyers. Oil companies simply weren't interested.

 

[surada]

1. Obama cancelled leases on public lands where no drilling had taken place for 5 years, and re-sold many of those leases.

2. Drilling also increased on public lands as well. The percentage of oil coming from public lands increased by 25%, but there was so much drilling on private lands that the overall percentage of oil produced on public lands went from 20% of all production, to 15% of total production.

In a classic case of "figures never lie, but liars often figure", FOX News and the rightwing media touted headlines that the Obama Administration had decreased production on public lands, without noting that such decrease meant skyrocketing production on private lands had eclipsed production increases on public lands causing that shifting percentage, and told you that Obama was trying to "choke off" domestic production.

3. Geologists and oil industry experts have been reported as saying that the nearly all most promising sites for drilling on public lands, have already been drilled and few of the lands Obama took off the market were viable drilling sites in the first place. Something that the right wing media completely ignored.

4. When the drilling options were offered for sale in the Alaskan game reserves to much fanfare by the Trump Administration, there were no buyers. Oil companies simply weren't interested.

Thousands of oil leases on public lands and Federal lands sat idle during Dubya's presidency. The ppb was too low for investment in rigs, exploration and drilling.

 

[Dante Reawakened]

Of course, the left will spend the next 100 years denying that Russia interfered on behalf of Bernie Sanders, just like they’ve spent the past 4 years denying that Russia had a massive campaign operation to help Hitlery Clinton get elected.

Sanders excoriates Russia after being briefed on attempts to help his presidential campaign

All roads lead to Trump family businesses

Eric Trump Reportedly Bragged About Access to $100 Million in Russian Money

“We don’t rely on American banks. We have all the funding we need out of Russia.”

www.vanityfair.com

How Russian Money Helped Save Trump’s Business

After his financial disasters two decades ago, no U.S. bank would touch him. Then foreign money began flowing in.

foreignpolicy.com

Tower of secrets: the Russian money behind a Donald Trump skyscraper

The Trump Toronto reveals links between shadowy post-Soviet wealth and a future president

www.ft.com

 

[surada]

All roads lead to Trump family businesses

Eric Trump Reportedly Bragged About Access to $100 Million in Russian Money

“We don’t rely on American banks. We have all the funding we need out of Russia.”

www.vanityfair.com

How Russian Money Helped Save Trump’s Business

After his financial disasters two decades ago, no U.S. bank would touch him. Then foreign money began flowing in.

foreignpolicy.com

Tower of secrets: the Russian money behind a Donald Trump skyscraper

The Trump Toronto reveals links between shadowy post-Soviet wealth and a future president

www.ft.com

Deutsch bank and the bank of Cyprus are both Russian money.

 

[Dragonlady]

Clinton being a useful idiot doesn’t mean she did anything illegal per se

Yes, the russians hacked the dnc and exposed how corrupt it was, and how they conspired to undermine the 2016 primaries, and colluded with the media to help clinton

Gee, so if the Russians were trying to help Hillary, why did they try to paint her as corrupt and expose the DNC? With friends like the Russians, and the FBI, Hillary Clinton hardly needed any enemies.

There was absolutely no "conspiracy to undermine the primaries". That's what Trump and FOX told you. There was a political party, who was concerned about an independent candidate trying to win the nomination as a Democrat, so he could use the money and the machinery of one of the mainstream parties to make a run at the Presidency. And there was the response of the Clinton Campaign to such suggestions which was "No way". We don't need to do it".

Clinton won 70% of the popular vote in the primaries. Donald Trump won 44% of the popular vote in the Republican primaries. Democrats apportion delegates on percentages of votes in some states. Trump was winning 100% of the delegates with 15% of the vote, early on with 17 candidates and no clear frontrunner.

How were the discussions by the DNC any different from the "Never Trumpers" in the Republican Party who were floating the idea and even called a vote on a "brokered convention" to try and stop Donald Trump from doing the same thing to the Republican Party, after Trump had already secured enough delegates to win the nomination. They tried to change the rules of the convention, AFTER the convention had started?

 

[struth]

Gee, so if the Russians were trying to help Hillary, why did they try to paint her as corrupt and expose the DNC? With friends like the Russians, and the FBI, Hillary Clinton hardly needed any enemies.

There was absolutely no "conspiracy to undermine the primaries". That's what Trump and FOX told you. There was a political party, who was concerned about an independent candidate trying to win the nomination as a Democrat, so he could use the money and the machinery of one of the mainstream parties to make a run at the Presidency. And there was the response of the Clinton Campaign to such suggestions which was "No way". We don't need to do it".

Clinton won 70% of the popular vote in the primaries. Donald Trump won 44% of the popular vote in the Republican primaries. Democrats apportion delegates on percentages of votes in some states. Trump was winning 100% of the delegates with 15% of the vote, early on with 17 candidates and no clear frontrunner.

How were the discussions by the DNC any different from the "Never Trumpers" in the Republican Party who were floating the idea and even called a vote on a "brokered convention" to try and stop Donald Trump from doing the same thing to the Republican Party, after Trump had already secured enough delegates to win the nomination. They tried to change the rules of the convention, AFTER the convention had started?

i don't believe the Russians knew what was on the emails when they hacked them.

Fox didn't tell me, I read the emails. It's pretty clear

 

[Dragonlady]

i don't believe the Russians knew what was on the emails when they hacked them.

Fox didn't tell me, I read the emails. It's pretty clear

Well of course the Russians didn't know what was on the emails. How could they without seeing them.

So did you read ALL of the emails posted by WikiLeaks, or just the "highlights" promoted by Roger Stone on his Twitter account? There were thousands of emails in each of the releases.

How did Roger Stone consistently know which emails made the DNC look bad within minutes of WikiLeaks releasing them? Or in the case of the Podesta emails, 2 hours BEFORE WikiLeaks posted them?

Why did Donald Trump promote WikiLeaks and the stolen emails more than 120 times in his speeches throughout the campaign?

Last but certainly not least, how convenient for Donald Trump that the Podesta emails were release right after the Access Hollywood tape, and provided cover for Trump's admission that he sexually assaults women, and he gets away with it.

 

[Dante Reawakened]

Deutsch bank and the bank of Cyprus are both Russian money.

Ok

 

[surada]

Ok

Remember, Wilbur Ross was the owner of the Bank of Cyprus. Trump hired Wilbur Ross for his secretary of commerce.

 

[Dante Reawakened]

Remember, Wilbur Ross was the owner of the Bank of Cyprus. Trump hired Wilbur Ross for his secretary of commerce.

All the Lobbyist Swamp types in Trump’s circle … pathetic

 

[struth]

Well of course the Russians didn't know what was on the emails. How could they without seeing them.

So did you read ALL of the emails posted by WikiLeaks, or just the "highlights" promoted by Roger Stone on his Twitter account? There were thousands of emails in each of the releases.

How did Roger Stone consistently know which emails made the DNC look bad within minutes of WikiLeaks releasing them? Or in the case of the Podesta emails, 2 hours BEFORE WikiLeaks posted them?

Why did Donald Trump promote WikiLeaks and the stolen emails more than 120 times in his speeches throughout the campaign?

Last but certainly not least, how convenient for Donald Trump that the Podesta emails were release right after the Access Hollywood tape, and provided cover for Trump's admission that he sexually assaults women, and he gets away with it.

I don't have tweeter, so no didn't see what Roger Stone posted.

No I didn't read them all though...no real need to....but here are four that are really damning showing how the DNC colluded with Clinton to undremine the primaries The 4 Most Damaging Emails From the DNC WikiLeaks Dump

Then of course the oness showing how Clinton was handed questions prior to the debate: Brazile under siege after giving Clinton debate question

 

[Dante Reawakened]

I don't have tweeter, so no didn't see what Roger Stone posted.

No I didn't read them all though...no real need to....but here are four that are really damning showing how the DNC colluded with Clinton to undremine the primaries The 4 Most Damaging Emails From the DNC WikiLeaks Dump

Then of course the oness showing how Clinton was handed questions prior to the debate: Brazile under siege after giving Clinton debate question

Fuck Bernie. He was never a Democrat and wanted to start at the top

Damning? Only if one believes like the headline writer and reporters do, that the DNC owed Bernie

 

[struth]

Fuck Bernie. He was never a Democrat and wanted to start at the top

Damning? Only if one believes like the headline writer and reporters do, that the DNC owed Bernie

The DNC owed Bernie, and the American people a fair primary. The DNC however, is obviously corrupt.

 

[Dagosa]

Well since they were spying on his campaign and is presidency and lying about what they found that showed good sense.

This is the Trump legacy.

 

[Dagosa]

Well since they were spying on his campaign and is presidency and lying about what they found that showed good sense.

 

[Dagosa]

Tell me, Dagosa , at what grade did you drop out of school?

It’s absolutely horrifying how illiterate and uneducated you leftists are. Not to mention to the degree you mother-fuckers lie to cover up the gross actions of your own party.

Sanders excoriates Russia after being briefed on attempts to help his presidential campaign

Trump, however, sneered at the suggestion the Kremlin is attempting to interfere again to aid his reelection effort.

www.nbcnews.com

The guy you worship.

 

[Dagosa]

You are suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome and are a total fool to believe any propaganda Hillary throws at you. This fact was obvious 4 years ago as shown by this article.

There Remains No Evidence Of Trump-Russia Collusion

These facts shed little light, if any, on collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russian state to throw the election to Trump, as is evidenced by the deafening silence of anti-Trumpists.

www.forbes.com

You need to start listening to news form sources other then CNN. MSNBC, The News York Times and the Washington Post. Things are starting to get interesting. But don’t worry about Hillary. She is totally above any and all laws.

What happens to Hillary Clinton after Durham proves her role in hoax against Trump?

Turley calls Hillary Clinton Voldemort-like and claims she will avoid responsibility for conducting a disinformation campaign against Trump.

www.bizpacreview.com

Why doesn’t Hillary’s ‘dossier’ trick count as treason?

What’s the difference between the infamous Russian dossier on Donald Trump and that random fake-news story you saw on Facebook last year? The latter was never used by America’s intelligence communi…

nypost.com

You seem to still have the hots for Hillary. Hillary hasn’t held an elected office for six years. Get over it. Trump Humpers still think Trump the imbecile is still president.

 

[Dante Reawakened]

The DNC owed Bernie, and the American people a fair primary. The DNC however, is obviously corrupt.

Corrupt? All’s fair in politics

Grow up. The DNC is a private group. They don’t owe Bernie shit. The people? PRIMARIES & CAUCUSES are/we’re not run by the DNC — Local people involved in political events and such ran them
Attacking the DNC over everything is so pathetic

 

[struth]

Corrupt? All’s fair in politics

Grow up. The DNC is a private group. They don’t owe Bernie shit. The people? PRIMARIES & CAUCUSES are/we’re not run by the DNC — Local people involved in political events and such ran them
Attacking the DNC over everything is so pathetic

i don’t attack them over everything…just their corruption