Alito issues scathing dissent on ACLU decision. (Poll)

[WorldWatcher]

Well that's the issue, the SCOTUS can't simply step in whenever it wants, had the case been to the Circuit Court yet?

The SCOTUS isn't simply stepping in whenever it wants.

The emergency request is because the Trump Administration wasn't following the SCOTUS previous order.

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Justices temporarily bar government from removing Venezuelan men under Alien Enemies Act

This article was updated on April 20 at 6:36 a.m. Over a dissent by two of the court’s conservative justices, the Supreme Court temporarily barred the Trump administration from removing […]

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[jc456]

The SCOTUS isn't simply stepping in whenever it wants.

The emergency request is because the Trump Administration wasn't following the SCOTUS previous order.

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Justices temporarily bar government from removing Venezuelan men under Alien Enemies Act

This article was updated on April 20 at 6:36 a.m. Over a dissent by two of the court’s conservative justices, the Supreme Court temporarily barred the Trump administration from removing […]

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facilitate means what?

 

[WorldWatcher]

facilitate means what?

Not germane to the SCOTUS ruling we're talking about.

This is about AEA deportees (not the Abrego Garcia case) given proper notification and the ability to file a haebus corpus motion to challenge their inclusion in the proclamations classes as ordered by the SCOTUS in a 9-0 order.

But I'm not surprised you don't know what you are talking about.

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[Edgetho]

facilitate means what?

Think alcohol and fat chicks

 

[WEATHER53]

The midnight mad rush is a sure sign that Roberts is anti Trump

 

[WEATHER53]

Think alcohol and fat chicks

Facile means benign and limited effort.

 

[struth]

Actually it can, and it should.

The SC delegates its powers, except final appeals, to lower courts. However that doesn't mean it gives up on it's constitutional power as the only court required by the Constitution.

The SCOTUS only has orginial jurisidiction in cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, and those in which a State shall be Party, the supreme Court shall have original Jurisdiction.

Everything else is appealette jurisdicition meaning it has to go through the other courts first.

 

[Edgetho]

Facile means benign and limited effort.

Precisely

 

[martybegan]

The SCOTUS only has orginial jurisidiction in cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, and those in which a State shall be Party, the supreme Court shall have original Jurisdiction.

Everything else is appealette jurisdicition meaning it has to go through the other courts first.

It retains original jurisdiction in those cases, it isn't banned from having it in others.

By that logic, if the other courts were disbanded there would be no trials because the SC wouldn't be able to hear any appeals because there would be no original cases.

 

[struth]

The SCOTUS isn't simply stepping in whenever it wants.

The emergency request is because the Trump Administration wasn't following the SCOTUS previous order.

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Justices temporarily bar government from removing Venezuelan men under Alien Enemies Act

This article was updated on April 20 at 6:36 a.m. Over a dissent by two of the court’s conservative justices, the Supreme Court temporarily barred the Trump administration from removing […]

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Well, that was the claim, well actually the claim was that the Trump Admin was going to restart, at some point deporting them again....not that they have actually.

there was no actual record of it, just the complaint from the ACLU...that was sort of the issue, they did just step in, because there was literally no Court record, nothing litigated, heck the Circuit Court hadn't even had the case.

 

[struth]

It retains original jurisdiction in those cases, it isn't banned from having it in others.

By that logic, if the other courts were disbanded there would be no trials because the SC wouldn't be able to hear any appeals because there would be no original cases.

No, that's the only cases it has it.

The Constitution is clear":https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artIII-S2-C2-2/ALDE_00001220/

In all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, and those in which a State shall be Party, the supreme Court shall have original Jurisdiction. In all the other Cases before mentioned, the supreme Court shall have appellate Jurisdiction, both as to Law and Fact, with such Exceptions, and under such Regulations as the Congress shall make.

 

[Marener]

The midnight mad rush is a sure sign that Roberts is anti Trump

It’s probably more of a reflection as to how the administration is rushing to do things as secret as possible to prevent any court from intervening.

 

[martybegan]

No, that's the only cases it has it.

The Constitution is clear":https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artIII-S2-C2-2/ALDE_00001220/

In all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, and those in which a State shall be Party, the supreme Court shall have original Jurisdiction. In all the other Cases before mentioned, the supreme Court shall have appellate Jurisdiction, both as to Law and Fact, with such Exceptions, and under such Regulations as the Congress shall make.

That means there can be no other courts higher than the Supreme Court. It's the end of the line.

It doesn't deny it original Jurisdiction, because it would need it if they decided to not setup inferior courts.

 

[Edgetho]

I be's confuseded -- Again.

If OMB tells SCOTUS to go fuck their pet billy goats, what are they gonna do about it again??

It's heading in that direction, people.

 

[struth]

That means there can be no other courts higher than the Supreme Court. It's the end of the line.

It doesn't deny it original Jurisdiction, because it would need it if they decided to not setup inferior courts.

Correct. But it also means it only has original jurisdiction on those few cases. This isn’t one and it didn’t properly go through the appeals process

 

[martybegan]

Correct. But it also means it only has original jurisdiction on those few cases. This isn’t one and it didn’t properly go through the appeals process

As the only court actually defined in the Constitution that doesn't make sense.

If we got rid of the inferior courts, then no cases could be heard?

The Constitution doesn't ban it from hearing direct cases, it clearly States where it as original jurisdiction regardless of whatever inferior courts are created by legislation AND it clearly says only the SC has final appellate powers.

That is to prevent congress from creating a court above the Supreme Court, not to prevent it from stepping in if it decides it wants to hear a case itself.

 

[struth]

As the only court actually defined in the Constitution that doesn't make sense.

If we got rid of the inferior courts, then no cases could be heard?

The Constitution doesn't ban it from hearing direct cases, it clearly States where it as original jurisdiction regardless of whatever inferior courts are created by legislation AND it clearly says only the SC has final appellate powers.

That is to prevent congress from creating a court above the Supreme Court, not to prevent it from stepping in if it decides it wants to hear a case itself.

Well it’s what the constitution says. The constitution intended the congress to make Lower courts

Moreover each state has courts, seperate from the federal system

 

[martybegan]

Well it’s what the constitution says. The constitution intended the congress to make Lower courts

Moreover each state has courts, seperate from the federal system

The Constitution gives the SC ultimate appellate power, the wording says nothing about denying it the ability to jump it with it's inferior courts if it so chooses to.

The wording in question is so congress couldn't create the "More Supreme Court" and say it had appellate power over the Supreme Court.

The State Courts have nothing to do with the Supreme Court or it's functioning.

 

[80zephyr]

None of those currently in custody are able to murder citizens.
You need to show what damage is done to the US if they are not deported…Right Now

Why does Trump have to do it when Obama didn't have to?

 

[WEATHER53]

Why does Trump have to do it when Obama didn't have to?

Why?
It’s as black and white as feeling and thinking