Alec Baldwin's Involuntary Manslaughter Case Dimissed In The Middle of The Trial and Canot Be Filed Again.

[Frankeneinstein]

Let me post a parallel to this case. The death of Brandon Lee, by a prop gun loaded with blanks.

D.A. announces negligence caused death of “The Crow” actor Brandon Lee | April 27, 1993 | HISTORY

As a nearly month-long police investigation draws to a close, North Carolina District Attorney Jerry Spivey announces...

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Around midnight on the morning of March 31, the cast and crew were filming a scene at Carolco Studios in Wilmington, North Carolina. As Lee entered a room, another actor shot him from a distance of 15-20 feet. Though the gun was supposed to have been loaded with blanks, police later found that a .44 bullet entered Lee’s abdomen and lodged in his spine, fatally wounding him. He died in the hospital hours later of internal injuries, blood loss and heart failure.

Hollowed-out cartridges are often used to film close-ups of a gun being loaded; the “dummy” cartridges are then supposed to be removed and replaced with blanks before being fired. The police investigation into Lee’s death concluded that a tip of one of the cartridge’s bullets broke off from the cartridge and lodged in the gun, then fired at Lee along with the blank.

D.A. Spivey eventually decided against bringing charges against Crowvision, the production company making the movie.

Proving what though?

 

[StatesRightsForever]

Can anyone explain why he pointed the gun at halyna and thumbed back the hammer and pulled the trigger.? She was a director not an actress in the movie.

 

[StatesRightsForever]

Appeal is not available.

Yes it is. The judge dismissed the case with prejudice. Judicial decisions are always appealable.

 

[Concerned American]

So people are liable if someone breaks into their house or steals their stuff?

I am not sure what your point is. Do you know for sure it was an accident? Maybe it was just set up to look that way. Re: your analogy--quite a few states have statutes these days that hold a homeowner liable for damages from their firearms if they determine they were not stored securely. I don't agree with the logic but there it is--in any case, the comparison is not relevant to the Baldwin case.

 

[meaner gene]

Agreed. With the special effects technology of today, there was no need to have a gun on the set at all. I am not accusing him of malice, but that possibilty exists and because of that he should be held accountable and jailed to drive the point home.

CGI doesn't work with handguns. When fired the gun recoils, which involves more CGI than just adding smoke coming out of the barrel. It's like ending car chases, and doing CGI for that too. Hey... we don't even need actors at that point, just CGI everything.

How much does CGI cost? As of 2018, CGI, 3D animation and other visual effects cost an average of $33.7 million per film.

 

[StatesRightsForever]

No reason for him to point the gun at a director (not an actress) in the movie and thumb back the hammer and pull the trigger. This may have been murder. Baldwin is a hot-head with a short fuse.

 

[StatesRightsForever]

CGI doesn't work with handguns. When fired the gun recoils, which involves more CGI than just adding smoke coming out of the barrel.

HAHAHA. Did you really say that? Anyone can fake recoil.

 

[The Duke]

He can be charged under a different statute. Negligent Homicide.

That's actually what it was.

 

[excalibur]

If somebody puts poison into a bottle of wine. And the actor pours that poisonous wine into another actors glass, who drinks it, and subsequently dies.
Do you blame the actor who poured the wine?
How about blaming the actor who drank it without checking?

Where is the blame in that scenario?

Completely different scenario. You have a gun in your hand, YOU are supposed to check if it is loaded before pointing it at someone and then pulling the trigger.

BTW ... Baldwin still denies that he pulled the trigger!

 

[meaner gene]

Yes it is. The judge dismissed the case with prejudice. Judicial decisions are always appealable.

Actually that only applies to errors in law, not to an error of a fact determination.

Prosecutors cannot appeal a judge's dismissal unless that dismissal was due to a misapplication of the relevant law. This would be something like the judge ruling that the law in question was unconstitutional or ruling that the indictment against the defendant didn't state a cause of action when it did.

 

[Concerned American]

Who's Scottish? Use a gun? I've owned and fired shot guns. If protocol is not to aim a gun at people, tell your fellow countrymen because you have ******* dreadful gun stats. So if you want to talk about gun safety, start with you idiots before trying to preach to gun safe countries.

So what do you do if someone hands you a shotgun with a closed bolt or breach? Do you just toss it aside or point it at another human and pull the trigger? If you do, you should never handle another firearm again. As for dreadful gun stats--do you think not holding a suspect responsible in an obvious firearms violation is going to make those stats better?

 

[excalibur]

If you're on a movie set or on stage in a theatre, I wouldn't expect you to suddenly stop the show and say, "Hang on guys, I'm just going to make sure this prop is safe".

I doubt Arnold Schwarzenegger et. al. checked their props too on the likes of Terminator etc.. unless anyone knows otherwise.

And a prosecutor to mess up their own case with evidence issues, idiots.

They weren't filming when this happened. Baldwin was f'ing around with the gun as they were preparing to film.

 

[0311]

Of course not.



Or deliberate.

Either way it was doomed to fail.

 

[Concerned American]

They weren't filming when this happened. Baldwin was f'ing around with the gun as they were preparing to film.

Irrelevant. It was incumbent on HIM to ensure the firearm was safe. Did he fail to do that purposely? Inquiring minds would like to know.

 

[0311]

The democrats are all for murder. This time the victim was just older.

It was ReNaziKlans and MAGA MAGGOTS that the U.S. Capitoil Building Jan 06. It is ReNaziKlans and MAGA MAGGOTS that believe in violence.

 

[excalibur]

Yes it is. The judge dismissed the case with prejudice. Judicial decisions are always appealable.

They f'ed the case up (Brady material) so I doubt they will appeal.

The same has happened to Trump in the documents case, they withheld Brady material. Hopefully, we will soon have the same outcome, dismissed with prejudice.

 

[excalibur]

It was ReNaziKlans and MAGA MAGGOTS that the U.S. Capitoil Building Jan 06. It is ReNaziKlans and MAGA MAGGOTS that believe in violence.

The 'Summer of Love 2020' laughs.

 

[meaner gene]

HAHAHA. Did you really say that? Anyone can fake recoil.

The speed of recoil can be 20 feet/second (about 14mph) which is faster than the wrist snap of a major league fastball.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

It was ReNaziKlans and MAGA MAGGOTS that the U.S. Capitoil Building Jan 06. It is ReNaziKlans and MAGA MAGGOTS that believe in violence.

A new twist on "both sides do it"?

 

[The Duke]

The speed of recoil can be 20 feet/second (about 14mph) which is faster than the wrist snap of a major league fastball.