Air Force said NO. 12K of them.

[Gracie]

Watching the love affair between stann and donald h is hilarious. Both patting themselves on the back about how above everyone else they are, how right they are, how awful those who don't agree with them are.

Get a room. Seeing you two make verbal love is gross.

 

[Gracie]

Meanwhile...went to the cardiologist today with MrG. The spot on his lung is NOT cancer they said. Not sure what is going on with his difficulty in breathing, so they are going in to take some lung samples. He went into detail but it was all pretty much over my head.

While we sat and talked, I asked the doc "riddle me this: If this jab is supposed to be a vaccine, doesn't a vaccine STOP someone from getting ill....ie the flu, shingles, sugar cubes when we were all kids, etc" and he said "supposed to. But this vax is not cleared yet for many doctors and I am one of them, nor will I be bullied into getting it".

3rd doc that said this.

 

[Karen Brandon]

Then why do you think that they are refusing ?

I dunno beagle9 - 12 thousand AF personell said they wouldn't take the vaccine - probably for all the reasons people don't wanna take it

As to "already had COVID and got over it" - I am not all that sure that having it and recovering from it is a sure-fire thing that you cant get it again; there is a lot unknown about this virus

Only one in real life that I knew of that had it and recovered - later took the vaccine - and she was sick for 2-3 days from the vaccine, even after having had and recovered from the real thing

If 12,000 AF people have already had it and recovered, I would be surprised - that seems high

I enlisted in 1978, like the Admiral

I never gave a second thought to taking vaccines for Anthrax or anything else they gave me

Neither did I question the polio vaccine when I took the sugar cube as an elementary student

 

[airplanemechanic]

I never gave a second thought to taking vaccines for Anthrax or anything else they gave me

Neither did I question the polio vaccine when I took the sugar cube as an elementary student

Those were well established vaccines. The covid vaccines were rushed through with EUA. It took years and years of studies to perfect those vaccines. We rushed through 3 covid ones in months. People are hesitant to take them because they have reason to believe they may not be safe.

Why not force people to get the flu shot each year? Why just covid?

 

[beagle9]

I dunno beagle9 - 12 thousand AF personell said they wouldn't take the vaccine - probably for all the reasons people don't wanna take it

As to "already had COVID and got over it" - I am not all that sure that having it and recovering from it is a sure-fire thing that you cant get it again; there is a lot unknown about this virus

Only one in real life that I knew of that had it and recovered - later took the vaccine - and she was sick for 2-3 days from the vaccine, even after having had and recovered from the real thing

If 12,000 AF people have already had it and recovered, I would be surprised - that seems high

I enlisted in 1978, like the Admiral

I never gave a second thought to taking vaccines for Anthrax or anything else they gave me

Neither did I question the polio vaccine when I took the sugar cube as an elementary student

Funny how know details have emerged about why they don't want the thing, just that they will be forced to or else. That's not right, but the military don't cover up anything ever right ?? LOL.

 

[beagle9]

Those were well established vaccines. The covid vaccines were rushed through with EUA. It took years and years of studies to perfect those vaccines. We rushed through 3 covid ones in months. People are hesitant to take them because they have reason to believe they may not be safe.

Why not force people to get the flu shot each year? Why just covid?

I still think that it's become an us or them game in a political pissing match from hell.

 

[bugs]

Funny how know details have emerged about why they don't want the thing, just that they will be forced to or else. That's not right, but the military don't cover up anything ever right ?? LOL.

Nope.. Never.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

The flu has a higher death rate.

no it does not, not even close. Is there anything you will not lie about?

The flu has a death rate of about 0.061%....less than half of one percent.

 

[bugs]

no it does not, not even close. Is there anything you will not lie about?

The flu has a death rate of about 0.061%....less than half of one percent.

so.. this is Almost 1/2 a percent Higher.. Wow!

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Meanwhile...went to the cardiologist today with MrG. The spot on his lung is NOT cancer they said. Not sure what is going on with his difficulty in breathing, so they are going in to take some lung samples. He went into detail but it was all pretty much over my head.

While we sat and talked, I asked the doc "riddle me this: If this jab is supposed to be a vaccine, doesn't a vaccine STOP someone from getting ill....ie the flu, shingles, sugar cubes when we were all kids, etc" and he said "supposed to. But this vax is not cleared yet for many doctors and I am one of them, nor will I be bullied into getting it".

3rd doc that said this.

Then your doctor is a ******* idiot. The flu vaccine does not stop people from getting the flu, just makes it not as bad if you do get it.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

so.. this is Almost 1/2 a percent Higher.. Wow!

The death rate for COIVD is 2%, that is 1.94% percentage points more than the flu, or for those of you that are not good with math, 32 times higher than COVID

 

[beagle9]

so.. this is Almost 1/2 a percent Higher.. Wow!

Hundreds of thousands have recovered, and are living with immunity that is being ignored for political purposes. I want to know whose going to be held liable for forcing medicine into people that have natural immunity ? The lawsuit's should be Catastrophic when it's all over with. To make someone sick again after they had recovered naturally from Covid, and have been living Covid free for years afterwards, uhhhh is going to come with some liability. No way is the government getting off the hook for that one.

 

[beagle9]

Then your doctor is a ******* idiot. The flu vaccine does not stop people from getting the flu, just makes it not as bad if you do get it.

The COVID vaccine isn't stopping people from getting Covid, and some are getting full on Covid after the shot's months down the road. Fact...

 

[beagle9]

The death rate for COIVD is 2%, that is 1.94% percentage points more than the flu, or for those of you that are not good with math, 32 times higher than COVID

Which time periods during the flu are you comparing Covid too ?? The flu isn't the same every year, so how far back are you going to get your averages from ??

 

[Harpy Eagle]

The COVID vaccine isn't stopping people from getting Covid, and some are getting full on Covid after the shot's months down the road. Fact...

Yes, there are breakthrough cases as was expected. But the vast majority that get COVID after the shot have a mild case, just like the way the flu vaccine is supposed to work. Neither are supposed to stop it 100%, that is not possible with a virus that mutates.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Which time periods during the flu are you comparing Covid too ?? The flu isn't the same every year, so how far back are you going to get your averages from ??

I took the average from 2019. But feel free to show me a time when the death rate from the flu was 32 times higher than in 2019

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Hundreds of thousands have recovered, and are living with immunity that is being ignored for political purposes. I want to know whose going to be held liable for forcing medicine into people that have natural immunity ? The lawsuit's should be Catastrophic when it's all over with. To make someone sick again after they had recovered naturally from Covid, and have been living Covid free for years afterwards, uhhhh is going to come with some liability. No way is the government getting off the hook for that one.

the vaccine does not impede what natural immunity might be there

 

[bugs]

The death rate for COIVD is 2%, that is 1.94% percentage points more than the flu, or for those of you that are not good with math, 32 times higher than COVID

Wow.. That is HIGHER Than Anyone Else has Said.. Even the Great Faucci

 

[airplanemechanic]

The death rate for COIVD is 2%, that is 1.94% percentage points more than the flu, or for those of you that are not good with math, 32 times higher than COVID

Quit making up shit.

The death rate for covid is under 1%. And those are almost always the elderly, sick, ill, etc. The true death rate of covid is much lower as millions have had covid, recovered and had no idea they ever had it. Their numbers are ignored. So the TRUE death rate of covid is even lower than is being reported since we know every single person who died of covid because they are tested but we DON'T KNOW every single person who has had it.

 

[AntonToo]

Meanwhile...went to the cardiologist today with MrG. The spot on his lung is NOT cancer they said. Not sure what is going on with his difficulty in breathing, so they are going in to take some lung samples. He went into detail but it was all pretty much over my head.

While we sat and talked, I asked the doc "riddle me this: If this jab is supposed to be a vaccine, doesn't a vaccine STOP someone from getting ill....ie the flu, shingles, sugar cubes when we were all kids, etc" and he said "supposed to. But this vax is not cleared yet for many doctors and I am one of them, nor will I be bullied into getting it".

3rd doc that said this.

Maybe you should speak to infectious disease specialist about infectious disease. Just a thought.

Specialists have their own hammers and they suspect everything to be their kinda nail.

I've had chest pain at nights and went to a highly regarded cardiologist, who promptly gave me a chest X-Ray, Echocardiogram, a stress test and 24hr BP monitor....to find nothing except top shape.

I then asked about these pains a general physician during annual physical, who in two seconds dignosed me with heartburn, told me to cut some fat/acidic foods out of the diet and I've been feeling good ever since.